Abandoned Mustang Project - Need Advice
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Topic: Abandoned Mustang Project - Need Advice
Posted By: dchris17
Subject: Abandoned Mustang Project - Need Advice
Date Posted: July-24-2005 at 12:06am
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There is a CC Mustang that was abandoned at the marina where I store my boat. It looks like it hasn't been in the water since '99. I'm thinking about making an "as is" offer to the marina to get it off their hands. I want to know what this group thinks the maximum offer should be. Keep in mind I want to make my offer without even putting the boat in the water or trying to fire it up. Here's a picture of the boat.
http://www.solisearch.net/ims/pic.php?u=23735I8MZL&i=151299 - Abandoned Mustang Hull The boat looks okay on the outside. It doesn't have a trailer and it has some nice dings in the hull. Here's a picture of the dings. http://www.solisearch.net/ims/pic.php?u=23735I8MZL&i=151298 - Dings Am I crazy? I'm a mechanical guy and can fix most things myself, but am I getting in over my head? What if I can get the boat for next to nothing, just so the marina can get it out of their lot? Also, can anyone tell me what year this might be? Or other things I should look into? I've looked around and it appears to be a 75 Mustang 17. One more thing. How the heck do you get images to show up inline? THANKS! 
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Posted By: swamp demon
Date Posted: July-24-2005 at 2:08am
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it looks like a 1974. Look on the upper right hand corner of the stern the last two digits in the serial # should be the year.
From your picture it looks pretty good the dings don't look like to big a deal. The main thing to check are the stringers. And then the motor, If this is in northern indiana I could even look at it for you. 260-485-8794 ask for Tom ------------- Clear Lake,Indiana |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-24-2005 at 2:20am
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It's on the north side of Indianapolis, in Noblesville. How can I check the stringers? Will I be able to tell by walking on the floor? What kind of things can I check about the motor without trying to fire it up?
It looks like it was a well-cared for boat, at least until recently. |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-25-2005 at 12:12am
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Sweet boat, you bet I would take it if was close enough. The hull doesnt look that bad considering. We have 2 of those babies and I wouldnt trade them for anything. Just as raw parts, it would be worth big $$. ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-25-2005 at 12:15am
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From the picture, it has a rope rubrail which was after 1976. Somewhere in 1977-1978 they went to big MUSTANG 17 stenciling. It is possible someone replaced the rub rail. ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-25-2005 at 12:19am
| This will be my first CC if I can work out a deal. I want one bad - I bought a boat two years ago, a Rinker 206, and then discovered wakeboarding. The Rinker is a nice big boat, but it's not a ski boat. I want a boat that will throw a nice wake - I'm hitting the limits of the pop I can get out of the Rinker. |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-25-2005 at 12:24am
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So you think it might be a 76? I've seen similar lettering on a 75, but I couldn't find any 17' Mustangs before 74. The rope rub rail looks like it hasn't been touched in years. I can't find a hull number on this boat. I've looked all over the back.
How much should I offer the marina for this thing? They want to recoup some of the "storage fees". I want to make them an 'as is' offer, without testing the motor or anything, just because it gives me more leverage for a low offer. Any negotiating tips? The marina here is a real price gouger and I want to get a good deal since I'll probably have to put some bucks into this boat to get it wet next year. |
Posted By: jameski
Date Posted: July-25-2005 at 1:23am
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I guess I'll take a shot at it. I think without any more information than you know, you would be safe offering $1000 without a trailer. Much less and they might not take you seriously. If you find out it is in great condition, it's probably worth more like $5000 without a trailer.
The quickest way to check the stringers is to try and turn the eight lag bolts at the motor and transmission mounts. They should be tight. A visual inspection of an engine doesn't tell you much. You could pull the dip sticks on the engine and transmission to check for water in the oil or any "burnt" smell. But the best indicators would only be with the engine running (high oil pressure, low temperature, no smoke, no knocking or tapping). ------------- current boat http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1977 - 94 Sport Nautique previous boat http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=601 - 78 Martinique |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July-25-2005 at 11:37am
| Does the Marina have the title for the boat? Without a title you could have a rough time registering the boat as yours. |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: July-25-2005 at 6:53pm
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I own a 1979 Mustang , If you are looking for a wake board boat you should consider a Ski Nautique from 1982 to 1989 , This is called the 2001 Hull series and the wake is AWESOME on these years . The mustang has no tracking fins on the bottom of the boat and can be pulled around pretty easily when cutting hard at the wake . If you get the boat for $1000.00 that would be a good deal , Play with it for a while , re sell it and get a 82 to 89 Nautique .
Mike |
Posted By: swamp demon
Date Posted: July-25-2005 at 10:30pm
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Just saw today a 84,85? 2001 up at wawasee on hwy 13 near the church 7500.00
wh/blue lettering w/trailer did not stop but it didn't look to bad. ------------- Clear Lake,Indiana |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-26-2005 at 12:10am
| The marina doesn't have the title. I'll have to go through the abandoned title process if I can't find the owner and convince them to sign it over to me in exchange for settling their debt with the marina. This might end up being more trouble than it's worth. |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-26-2005 at 12:58am
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Might want to check your state laws. Here in Maine after I believe 20 years you dont need one. I bought my 1976 Mustang 17 last year and the guy I bought it from made me out a bill of sale on a plain piece of paper, handwritten, I then took it to the registry and showed them. I have no title on it. But I suppose the marina has to legally own it before they can sell it to you. If the legal paperwork beween the 2 parties have been done, then it may not be so bad....
STILL AN AWESOME BOAT!!!!! Good luck!! Also a way to tell the year is the ignition key on 1974 models were almost all the way to the right of the dash. Sometime in 75 or early 76 they moved it to the center of the dash because so many complaints about trying to use both arms on the same side to run the throttle and key at the same time. Ive also found even without the center keels, the boat plows so much water it really doesnt move much sideways. I like not having them because I "beach" my boat alot on the sand islands. ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-26-2005 at 9:23pm
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This is definitely a '74. I took a better look today and found the hull number. I also turned up another problem though. The gel coat is in pretty bad shape. It's falling off on parts of the hull and there are cracks all over it. Is this a deal breaker? What kind of money am I looking at to fix the gel coat?
THANKS! |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-27-2005 at 12:18am
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All of those boats gel coat crack over time. It seems like 500 hrs is the magic number. Both of ours started cracking at about the same amount of use. If you buff them heck out if it with some diamond cut, then wax, the cracks dont look so bad. It really doesnt effect the performance, and will not hurt anything so long as the fiberglass is ok. Our 1974 Mustang 17 has been cracked for 20 years and its still fine.
If it has a OMC 225 engine then you have yourself a winner. Those are pretty rare in Mustangs and are powerfull. Just the engine parts for those are going for pretty good money on E-BAY. They sound so sweet when the quadrajet opens compared to the 302 in our other one. Make sure you check the block, freeze plugs, and manifolds for cracks just in case it froze. Have you asked the marina what they need for it? To them its probably junk and might not want much for it, especially if they are not familiar with those boats. Like what was mentioned about offering $1000.OO, You could strip it and sell off the parts and probably double your money if its not totally junk. I get more compliments on how slick and sporty they look and sound. ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-27-2005 at 12:31am
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Also, might want to double check the hull and see if its been patched or hit. I am wondering why the original aluminum rub rail was replaced with a rope style. ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-27-2005 at 1:17am
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The hull doesn't look like it was ever hit, but some of the gel coat has cracked and fallen off. I got a better look at the inside today and it has a pretty decent looking interior. I got the hull number today - it's CTC00166M74 H-17MS. Is there any way to look this up the way you can VINs?
I'm going to make them an offer tomorrow. I'll keep you posted. |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-27-2005 at 1:24am
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Did you get a chance to see what it had for power? ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-27-2005 at 1:30am
| Nope. The marina was already closed and I was worried about getting arrested poking around the boat! I'll check on it in the morning. |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-27-2005 at 11:42pm
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I took the cover off today and looked at the motor. It's a 302 with 380 hours (assuming the hour gauge isn't broken). The boat actually looks like the only thing that ever happened to it was neglect. The stringers and engine look good (doesn't look like it ever froze). It will need a new starter, alternator, water pump, and exhaust hoses just to get it running.
The marina seems like they really just want it off their lot. I'm going to offer them $500 on Friday and I bet they take it. |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-28-2005 at 11:35pm
I will tell you if you can get it for $500, you stole it!! The hour meter is probably ok and with that little time on it there will definately be some good parts on it. Why cant I ever get that lucky???? ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-29-2005 at 12:49am
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We'll see how lucky I am tomorrow. Hopefully it won't take a long time for the marina to get the title work done.
Where do you get parts for your mustangs? This boat is definitely going to need everything electrical (on the motor) replaced, as well as the exhaust hose and water pump. Also, do you know how to look up info about the motor from the serial number? How can I find out how much HP this motor is supposed to have. It has a two barrel Holley on it now. |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-29-2005 at 1:29am
Really, a 2 barrel? That is weird. Someone may have played with it. Most had the PCM Ford 302 220 hp with a 4 barrel. PCM did make the same engine with a 2 barrel carb. There should be a metal tag rivited on it somewhere giving you the engine conversion company. There should be a model # on it. Check the prop and see if its a right hand (RH)and what the pitch is. The boats with the 302 220 hp used a federal/michigan 12x14RH. All that I know of were right hand rotation. Wondering if someone messes with the engine?? Maybe its a old 289. Whats wrong with the wiring? Has it been monkeyed with?? If the engine is a PCM 302, I would definately get a 4 barrel carb for it. But for 500 dollars, its still a steal! Also theres nothing more rewarding than driving a boat that you have rebuilt!! ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-29-2005 at 9:17pm
| Here's an update for interested parties - I offered the marina $400 for it. They're going to talk it over - it's kind of complicated because they don't have the title. They really want to get rid of it, but don't want to go through the hassel of a mechanics lien. I offered to do all the paperwork for them, and they have softened a bit. I think it's going to work out, but I won't know until Monday or Tuesday. |
Posted By: swamp demon
Date Posted: July-29-2005 at 10:41pm
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Glad to hear your moving forward on this.I just got back from Indy this afternoon sorry I didn't get your msg yesterday. We could of checked it out. Our 74 had a wakashaw which later became PCM. I believe this boat would have 185-190 HP w/2 bbl carb. ------------- Clear Lake,Indiana |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-30-2005 at 12:38am
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Don't worry about. I'm really excited to have a shot at a correct craft.
If I put a 4 bbl carb on it will I then get 215 HP out of it? Also, I got some history on the boat. According to the guys at the marina, there was nothing wrong with the boat when it went into storage in '99. If this deal works out, I'm going to wind up with one sweet boat! |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: July-30-2005 at 1:37am
SWAMP DEMON is right on about the engine, and yes, drop a 4160 holley (OEM) on it and you will have 220 hp. I was real happy the way the 302/4 in the 76 went. In order to make a huge difference in power (throttle response-quick) you must advance the timing to 18 or so degrees at idle, and run 93 octane gas, and the boat will ROCK!  ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July-30-2005 at 1:51pm
| I picked up my 65 Mustang project (had engine fire) for a 12pack of Becks. you could try that. |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: July-30-2005 at 10:41pm
| I think I might have to. It certainly might make the marina guys more friendly! |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: August-04-2005 at 11:48pm
Interested on what happened with the marina. You have any luck??? ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-05-2005 at 12:57am
| I offered them $400 for the boat, plus I would do all the legwork to get the title work down. The guy I talked to said he thought we could work something out, but that he had to check with his boss. That was last Friday. He said he'd get back to me Monday or Tuesday, but hasn't. I'm going to head over there tomorrow and see if I can't catch up with him. I've still got my fingers crossed. |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: August-05-2005 at 1:49pm
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We wish you luck. We have a 72 mustang and is a fun boat ...if you get it for less than a grand ... you will have done real well!
The gel cracks are no big deal...however any exposed fiberglass needs to be sealed so water is not absorbed...not hard to do! Good luck!!! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-05-2005 at 8:22pm
| This is going to take a while. The marina is willing to work things out, but it's not their highest priority. This is where I need to be patient and ready to buy them some suds! |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: August-11-2005 at 11:59pm
| dchris; what's up on the Mustang? Did you get it? Hope so! |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-12-2005 at 2:23am
| Still working it out. The marina says they want to do it, but they've had some unrelated trauma in the past week that has left me as a low priority. I'm going to keep following up though. I still think it's going to work out. |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-21-2005 at 1:09am
| I think the marina is playing games with me. One of the mechanics there says he is going to get the title and restore it himself. I'm going to wait and see if he actually does anything with it, then bring it up again in a few months. I bet it just continues to sit there. |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: August-21-2005 at 1:15am
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Dchris17...just take the cash to them and take it home!
Title...can't you purchase it with out title and apply for for title in your state? ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-21-2005 at 1:19am
| I don't think so. I believe we have to go through a mechanic's lien process. That's what the people at the BMV have told me anyhow. I suppose I could try that though. It would be best if I could just find the owners and get the title from them. |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: August-21-2005 at 12:40pm
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Check with the State Dept...or governing body to do a title search..Maybe you can deal with the owners who abondonded it. ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-22-2005 at 1:22am
| I got a lucky break. I had overheard the marina manager mention the last name of the owner, so I did a search on the internet. It's a pretty common name, so I was skeptical. Found him on the second call! He said I could have the boat if I squared him up with the marina. I'll update the post tomorrow after I talk to the marina again. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August-22-2005 at 1:03pm
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Dchris17,
I saw a mention about "Indy" on an earlier reply. Just wanted to let you know that if you're in Indiana, there is a cutoff on boats that require a title. Anything before a certain year (can't remember) just has registration and no title is needed. My 77 was that way. All I needed was a receipt from the previous owner. I did have to title the trailer. That entailed a police check, etc. Anyway, good luck! Walt |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August-24-2005 at 4:30pm
| Got the boat. $700 |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: August-24-2005 at 7:30pm
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Congrats , want to sell it an double your $$
$1500.00 email me michaelt@westmarine.com |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: August-24-2005 at 7:47pm
Good job... now you can see if you can get it running....lots of help support here!------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-24-2005 at 9:08pm
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Thanks for the offer, nautiquefrk, but I think I'm going to hang on to this one.
I'm optimistic that it's going to run - I found the owner and got the history on the boat. His dad bought it new in 1973 and they've kept it in Morse Reservoir (where I found it). They had it winterized at the end of the '99 season and it's been sitting there ever since. Finally, I can actually post something in the diary section! |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 12:01am
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So the boat is a 73? If I recall, it looked newer than that. Good luck on that!! You will love it! We love ours. They are a "sporty" looking boat! ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 12:05am
I just read your other post and see its actually a 74. That is a awesome year cause its the first year of that design. Does yours have the ign key to the far right??  ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 12:05am
| Sorry - it's a 74. Not sure what I was thinking. It has only 390 hours on it. I can't wait to get it out on the water, but it probably won't get wet till next year. I've got a good bit of gel coat work to do before I put it in. |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 12:09am
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Jeff,
How did the design change from 73 to 74? Is it just longer? I think the key is on the far right, but I haven't got the boat home yet. I'm totally pumped. This is going to be fun. |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 12:51am
In 74 was the first year they offered a 16 and 17 ft Mustang. The interior and hull design is totally different. The nose is is not as blunt. That hull design is the same though the years ahead, and the similar in design as other models. In either 75 or 76 (not sure) they added a split front winshield at the bottom for the vents. Also the windshield frames were silver, where in 77 (I think) they went to black. No question that boats of that era were by far the best looking. Wait till you get her running and in the water and tell me if she aint sweet!!  ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 1:14am
| dchris; Congrats! We've been watching this thread for a while, hoping you would get the boat. What a great story it'll make when you're done. It was great luck finding the original owner. Keep us posted with pics of your progress..............jbear |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 12:14pm
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David , No worries on the offer , I am happy for you on getting the boat . I have a 1979 Mustang 17 which I love . I think that you will get a lot of pleasure with this boat .
I hope you keep it original , I hate to see classic Correct crafts with Wakeboard towers bolted to the deck and the ring on the plyon sawed off with a hacksaw , There are pins that can be punched out if you want to use a exended pylon . The boat has no fins so if you cut hard , you can pull it around a bit . Can't wait to see more pics on the site of your boat . Good Luck , Mike |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 1:05pm
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Dchris17
I am from Muncie Indiana and was the owner of a 1979 Mustang from 1991 until 2002. You will love this boat! I sold mine a few years ago due to family size....I needed something bigger and I now miss the old boat every time I am out. Long story short....the reason I am writing is regarding your gel coat repair. There is a place here in Indiana that is one of the #1 gel coat repair locations in the mid west and they are also an authorized CC repair locaiton. Last year we took my grandfather's boat there...it was pretty rough on the outside and 2000-3000.00 made it look like new again!.....new graphics and everything! This price also included some stringer repair. From the looks of your boat it would probably not even cost this much. The name of this place is Harmon Boats. They just recently opened a new repair facility in Cicero near the lake you have found this boat on. I believe that they are in the back half of a new Malibu or Moomba dealer that just opened in the last few years ( on 19 I think). The contact information for harmon boats is as follows: Harmon Boats Fiberglass (CC recommended fiberglass repair location) 596 W Meridian St. Sharpsville, IN 46068 (former address / now located in Cicero) 1-877-426-2879 www.harmonboats.com Steve Scott (Harmon Boat Owner) Cell: 765-432-1779 These guys give free est. and will transport the boat for you. If you need Interior repair I would recommend the following: This guy done a complete interior for a friends CC and was really nice and really reasonable: Ron Parker Alexandria, IN 765-724-9444 If you need any other parts here are some locations I found in central IN that helped keep my Mustang running: Delaware Propeller (This is the shop that every marina in the mid-west sends repairs to) 1717 N. Walnut Street Muncie, IN 765-284-1539 Mid-west Correct Craft (Regional CC headquarters) 4340 West Orlando Road Angola, IN 46703 260-833-2226 http://www.nautique.com/ Gary Oliver Boat Parts (Personal Friend / Former CC dealer) (A great source). 8500 Lincolnshire Drive Yorktown, IN 765-759-2294 (Home) MD Boats (Indianapolis CC dealer) 5153 E 65th Street Indianapolis, IN 317-257-7358 Aqua Marine of Anderson 1115 Alex Pike Anderson, IN 765-643-9944 B&B Sandblasting (sandblasted / epoxy primed / painted the boat trailer) 305 E Fuson Road Muncie, IN 765-287-0198 my personal email is sshepher@tts.bwauto.com email me some time and I will send you a copy of other items you might find useful. You will find a picture of my former mustang in the diary section. It is a red and white 1979 with a long story attached. You have received a remarkable gift! I sold my Mustang for 6,900.00 two years ago....this was 900.00 more than I paid for it in 1991! Good Luck! Scott
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 7:33pm
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There is a nice correct craft trailer on ebay today....it is located in OHIO
Here is the item number of the sale on ebay 4571172212 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-25-2005 at 8:56pm
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Wow, Scott, thanks for all that info. This will be very helpful over the next few months.
I'm not sure where I'm going to go with the restore. I might stick with the original look, but I'm torn. I really prefer a tower over a pylon, but it feels kind of like a sacrilege to do that. I will promise not to cut the pylon off. |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: August-26-2005 at 1:41am
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The pylon is as good as a tower in terms of performance(getting air)...easy to put on and take off...and no modification to the boat!It's cool to keep the orininal look!
Again...way to go on that deal!!! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: August-26-2005 at 1:43am
Absolutely. The best part about the tower however, is getting all your stuff up into rack and out of your way. Tough call. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
stang72 wrote:Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: August-26-2005 at 2:06am
Don't think I have not thought about it! That board rack stuff is killer! Certainly a tough call...I can't bear to see drilling into the deck...ouch! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-27-2005 at 10:10pm
| I know there are board racks you can mount on pylons... maybe I'll think about that. |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: August-28-2005 at 2:39am
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Might be the way to go!!!And keep the boat free from modifications! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: 82tique
Date Posted: August-28-2005 at 4:42am
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Just like Star Wars:
You can use 'the force' and keep the boat all original; or you can go to the 'dark side' and install a tower. I went to the dark side 
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Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-28-2005 at 7:07pm
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Well, as it turns out, the boat doesn't even have a pylon on it anymore. I think someone stole it. So, since it's already missing... I might have to join the dark side, and put a tower on it.
I wonder if it would be possible to put fins on the hull so it wouldn't pull? |
Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: August-29-2005 at 12:30am
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The boat does a pretty good job on tracking. I know slalom skiing or kneeboarding with a 225 lb. person has no problem. The fiberglass keel that runs from the front to the rear does a good job except at real slow speeds. The nose doesnt want to stay put. ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: August-29-2005 at 1:58am
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Dave , You could find a pylon for your boat thru this site ? If not catch some huge air on the Dark Side !!
Mike |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: August-29-2005 at 3:14am
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Fins? Yes it can be done...After you take it out on the lake and ski behind it ,you can make that call.
I agree with jeff...my mustang tracks well enough too...and besides, without the fins you can spin a wirlybird like a crazy MoFo! When it's up and runnin...try this....Go about 40 mph , quickly drop it in nuetral and turn hard! You should spin and dip the bow to the windshield!!! Scares the snot out of ya the first time.After that...ask yourself "Do I really want to add fins?"  ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-29-2005 at 11:01am
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I'm definitely not adding fins until I try the spins! Sorry, the rhyme was accidental... I'm 260 pounds, so I'm curious to see whether or not I will pull the boat when I cut on my board.
I know, I'll probably replace the pylon no matter what, just because it wouldn't be right to not have a pylon in a boat like that. If I put a tower on it, I definitely won't be putting the same ugly tower I got from a guy in Canada. I'll make sure that it looks good, at the least. Maybe I could find someone who would loan me an extended pylon I could try? If it works as well as a tower, I can live with no place to put the board... |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: August-29-2005 at 1:17pm
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Think twice before adding tracking fins (skegs) for the following reasons:
1) The keel does not have a recess to accept the base plate of the fins and thus the fins will create drag and disrupt the smooth flow of water under the boat. 2) The keel is not reinforced to handle the added stress that the fins will put on the keel. What you will notice by not having the fins is that the boat slides in turns. My Martinique does not have the fins and it has never really been a problem with skiing. Great buy on the boat! Have fun fixing it up and I agree...replace the pylon. You might want to reinforce the floor area prior to replacing since you will be adding an extension. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August-29-2005 at 1:20pm
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I think I'm going to pass on the fins. Spins sound like too much fun...
I'm going to replace the floor anyway, so I'll put some extra glass, etc, in the pylon area. It's going to be a good winter! |
Posted By: S.T.
Date Posted: August-30-2005 at 2:00am
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I have a Ski Nautique 2001 and I can tell you that, with a tower, a rider can easily roll the boat over a lot. Even when it's rolled over, however, as long as the rudder is straight, the boat goes straight. This was absolutely not true of the considerably larger I/O that I used to have. If the boat rolled, I had to make steering corrections. I have assumed that the three tracking fins account for this directional stability.
Note: the tower is not even very tall. It's a CC Flight Control Tower that was narrowed to fit the boat. It's still super easy to roll the boat over and while I don't know this for a fact, I believe that significant steering corrections would be required if the fins weren't there. Anyway, that said, I still wouldn't add tracking fins to the Mustang. In fact, I probably wouldn't even add a tower. That old 17-footer is just too cool as is. If it were me and I wanted a better wakeboarding boat, I'd probably either flip it now or fix it up a bit and sell it for even more. Then, I'd take the profits and buy a slightly larger boat with fins (like a 2001) and throw a tower on there. Of course, this line of thought could go on and on. Maybe you skip the 2001 and go straight for a Sport. Or maybe skip ahead more and go for a Super Sport... I guess you have to decide where you want to stop but I know that sometimes people get carried away with modifications when they should have just started with a different boat (or car) in the first place (not implying that this is true of your situation). |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: August-30-2005 at 11:09pm
Okay, here's my thinking, now that I've had about a week to stew on it. I'm initially going to treat this is as a restoration project. The boat is cool the way it is, and I don't really want to mess it up. I'll put a pylon back in it, then get an extended pylon for boarding. That should keep me happy. That's what I'm going to do this winter. Then, I'll board with it next summer and see what I think. After that, I might decide I can't live without a tower and tracking fins. If so, I'll start looking for a 2001. I know boat upgrades can go on forever, but the 2001 is my dream boat. I'm pretty sure I can stop there.
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Posted By: JEFF KOSTIS
Date Posted: August-31-2005 at 1:47am
Yeah a 2001 is a nice boat, but I bet when you get the mustang in, all shined up, you will be hesitant on selling it. Its a head turner! What A deal, I still cant believe you pulled that off that good. Maybe I need to get some pointers from you!!  ------------- MUSTANG COUNTRY http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1074 - 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1093 - 1976 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: September-02-2005 at 11:32am
| I'm going to pick up the boat today and bring it home. Now the real fun begins! Thanks everyone for your advice on this deal! |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: September-11-2005 at 11:03pm
| I've got lots of pictures, etc at http://www.davidrchristiansen.com - my web site . Don't worry, I'll still be updating this site with questions, etc. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September-17-2005 at 9:10pm
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As Dave's older brother, I can attest that this is a typical modus operandi for our family. We have bought sailboats, cars, and have tried buying houses by looking for something that looks abandoned, and then hunting down the owner. Sometimes you spend a lot of time talking to county tax agents, with no results, but with persistance, it has paid off for us several times.
Congrats Dave, look forward to boarding next summer! |
Posted By: dchris17
Date Posted: September-18-2005 at 1:46am
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I took it out to the lake this afternoon, after I got it running (had the spark plug wires in reverse order). It was an awesome ride. And the wake was great. Crisp and tall, no washout. Best toy I ever had! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=917" rel="nofollow - My 1974 Mustang 17 http://www.trooptrack.com" rel="nofollow - TroopTrack : The Best Scouting Software |