boat rebuilds
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Printed Date: November-20-2024 at 2:40am
Topic: boat rebuilds
Posted By: scooter
Subject: boat rebuilds
Date Posted: April-28-2011 at 1:57am
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It's been almost a year since my last post/thoughts on my boat rebuild and I could really use a bit of info. I have pulled the engine and will be dropping a new one in but........Of course there is the infamous domino effect of fixing anything old. I am up to my elbows in re doing the floor. I have removed all the old floor and foam and had a good look at the stringers and such. The wood is amazingly still good. My big headache right now is getting the ski pylon out. From what I understand there may be a pin at the bottom of the pylon holding it onto the mounting bracket on the hull of the boat. Can anyone confirm this for me? The boat is 78 and from what I can tell from other posts these older models have this style of attachment. Also the original issue that led me to doing all this work is the fact that I froze the engine. The block cracked rendering it useless, and at the same time I got a fracture line in the left exhaust manifold. I would like to get a new one asap. Any ideas? Last question, time for new foam and fibreglass floor and the options out there seem to be endless. Does anyone have any insight to what products to use , I feeling a little over whelmed by the choice. West epoxy systems have lots of options and I will call them tomorrow. Any feelings on this. Thanks to all who have helped me in the past this forum is the bomb for us first time boat reno folks ------------- scooter |
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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: April-28-2011 at 1:50pm
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Hi Scooter, a few pictures always help to get the discussion going. Also, if you make a diary entry for your boat and link it to your profile, everyone can see what boat you're talking about.
What manifold you have depends on which engine and which marinization you have. A 78 is probably before PCM. You can still get PCM manifolds everywhere, but someone more experienced with the older boats can probably point you in which direction to go for other marinizers' manifolds. |
Posted By: scooter
Date Posted: April-28-2011 at 4:15pm
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thanks for the response. I'm going to try to get a whole lot of shots to help the situation, but I need my wifes help with that, kind of sad but reality. The engine is a 351 ford windsor and the old manifolds were aluminum. I have found potential manifolds but I would like to try and match the old ones for looks and the fact that they are stock. Are there any benefits to the newer manifolds? As far as I can tell not much has been changed on the engine. Of course soon enough there will be a new long block dropped in. ------------- scooter |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: April-28-2011 at 4:32pm
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I'm not sure of the benefits of the new ones. At the last NE re-union, a PCM rep was there and he said the "triangular" shape of the PCM manifolds helps with water splashing back after abruptly coming off plane. Whether this was really an issue before, I don't really know.
It maybe easier to keep things the same to keep existing plumbing for cooling hoses etc. Of course, if you're doing a complete motor anyway, you may go with a complete PCM motor. Joey, (Fl Inboards) has a thread were he's selling all his old Ford parts. He has a complete Ford 351 with tranny and everything. Used by he says it runs well. He mentions it toward the end of the 2nd page: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20999&PN=2&title=ford-motor-parts - Ford Parts Thread |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-29-2011 at 3:13am
If you went to the trouble of removing the floor and foam, I assume it was because there was rot present? If so, I am very doubtful that your stringers are in as good of shape as you seem to think. I would dig further and be sure of this before buttoning it back up.
Since youve already got it apart, wouldnt the easiest way to tell how the pylon attaches be to look? My '79 only sat in the cup- no pin. ------------- |
scooter wrote:Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-29-2011 at 8:53am
I STRONGLY agree with the potential for rot!!! How did you check to determine you don't have a problem? My 77 pylon has no pin. Just a cup and socket. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: horkn
Date Posted: April-30-2011 at 2:15am
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Brian, fwiw, 78's had PCM's at least as an option. MY 78 martinique has a PCM 351W and it has the same pyramid manifolds as newer pcms.
The 78 has no pin down below, just a socket as Pete describes. ------------- 78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
Posted By: scooter
Date Posted: May-05-2011 at 1:53pm
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Hi guys thanks for the response. Still haven't managed to get the ski pylon out. I found a 1/4 inch pin about 5 inches off the hull and podded it out, it made no difference and I'm starting to think that corrosion is what is holding it in. That is not really my main question of the day though. I decided to practise what what everyone is preaching and I pulled out all stringer material. The mains were very wet and super heavy but had no sign of rot. They are out now and will be replaced. I was going to try to dry them out while still in the boat but, by the time they would have dried it was worth it to replace them. The only thing that I think that stopped the wood from rotting is the layer of oil and grease that they are covered in.
So I have rebuilt all the stringers, main and the skinnier ones on the side and I'm ready to start the re-build......This leads to my question. Products . What is the best stuff to re-set the stringers and is there a particular weight fibreglass for re- doing the strength related fibreglassing around the main stringers. The old stuff looks beefy. I have had a looked at thick 12" wide fibreglass tape that seems good. Any hints out there or good links. ------------- scooter |
Posted By: Wacko
Date Posted: May-05-2011 at 10:46pm
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Scooter, there are a lot of very good threads on stringer replacements on this site that should answer 99% of your questions. Simply do a search with the key word "stringer"
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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: May-05-2011 at 11:47pm
| Wacko is absolutely correct! I have been doing some of this same research for a Fall repair job on my boat, and some of the guys have even made it easy by listing all of the materials they have bought. Check out the US Composites website also. This seems to be a favorite amongst the many who have done stringer jobs. I've also talked with these guys, and they have been very kind in answering all of my questions. Good luck! |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: May-06-2011 at 7:18pm
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This http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16254&title=73-skier-restoration - thread covers just about everything from beginning to end. The pylon separation is somewhere in the middle. ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |