Lead Substitute
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Printed Date: September-26-2024 at 2:00pm
Topic: Lead Substitute
Posted By: 74SkiNautique
Subject: Lead Substitute
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 5:43pm
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Hey guys,
My '74 Nautique of course calls for leaded gasoline. I used to buy a Concentrated lead substitute from walmart, it would mix about 1 oz. per 10 gallons of gas. I can't find this anymore. They stopped carrying it, and no other store has it. I hhave enough left for about half this season, and i dont wanna run on un-leaded fuel. What are you folks using? ------------- 74SkiNautique |
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 5:47pm
NOTHING!!! You've been scammed and have been waisting your money. Hopefully you don't use Fram oil filters too!!   ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 74SkiNautique
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 5:59pm
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haha, I use Napa when I can, otherwise I use the Motorcraft FL-1A. ------------- 74SkiNautique |
Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 6:17pm
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We always put lead in our 90 (1400 hrs). Family friends with their '88 never added lead and it's still running very well with 1800 hrs.
It seems like it's your freedom. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold) http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 6:51pm
I dont think anyone is implying it will do any harm... but its not doing any good either. Its your money- do with it as you wish! ------------- |
mdvalant wrote:Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 8:02pm
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I use lead additive. But unlike Tim and Pete, I still have lead in my pencil also. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: Mick88
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 8:58pm
It finding someone to write to thats the trick
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 9:11pm
Steve!!  I'm not that old like some of our other members here!! I can name a few and one usually comes onto the site later in the evening!!!
Tim on the other hand is young and I'll make sure I'll ask Melisa at GL to find out more details for you!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 9:16pm
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The bottom line is there is NO substitute for lead!! When the time comes for a top end job, then if you want to spend the extra, you go for hardened seats and SS valves. Some have not and gone with regular valve jobs! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 74SkiNautique
Date Posted: June-30-2011 at 11:52pm
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so, running un-leaded gasoline will not shorten the life of my valves, and seats? ------------- 74SkiNautique |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: July-01-2011 at 12:40am
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It will but not by very much. The point is that the additive will not pay for itself.
Am I too late?? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-01-2011 at 9:20am
Chris above is correct. "not by very much" Don't believe everything you read on the package or container!
BTW, you're probably too young to remember the days when "white" gas was sold for marine use. It's still around as a camp stove/lantern fuel. White gas is straight run gas with absolutely no additives in it. The old engines ran great on it for years and years!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: uk 1979 part2
Date Posted: July-02-2011 at 10:43am
I came across this the other day......I wonder if it would work in a boat engine too can't see why not, the 95 is our low gas rating you guys use a different system to rate gas.
It could also be a con... but I like the simple way its done.
This is there big one they also make smaller ones too. 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GMC-CCKW-RUN-95-UNLEADED-PETROL-INTANK-UNIT-5L-/350241170374?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Other_Vehicle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item518c0023c6 - Fuel Catalyst Link ------------- lets have a go 2 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-02-2011 at 11:21pm
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Roger,
You've got love the engineering skills in the UK!!! Weird? Maybe!! Creative? Definitively!! It sure worked with the allied effort in WW II! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: July-03-2011 at 11:32am
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JC Whitney used to sell a magnet that you could clamp on the fuel line. It would align fuel molecules so they would burn more efficiently. Big oil must have bought up the patent, because it never caught on. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: July-04-2011 at 11:47am
Pete, we are all a bit strange here comes from living on a Island, asked my dad about this he said probably as he was putting moth balls in his gas to give it more power(they had naphtha in them) and his friend had a side valve Harley with twin gas tanks so he put his ration of gas in one and the other filled with paraffin you always knew where he had been by following the smoke ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: 74SkiNautique
Date Posted: July-04-2011 at 8:03pm
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I can get Lead substitute from Redline, everyone swears by it, people who race hotrods with older engines that required Leaded gas. The ones who ran unleaded, now are sorry. im not taking that chance, not with a boat as nice as mine. :) It's about $10 for a 12oz bottle. and it mixes 1oz to 10 gallons. at our fuel usage, we'd be covered for about 3 seasons. pretty cheap if u ask me. ------------- 74SkiNautique |
Posted By: Behl
Date Posted: July-04-2011 at 8:17pm
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Question: Can the marine formula Ethanol Treatment such as the Sta-Bil also act as a Lead substitute?
Steve ------------- Steve in Indy http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1702&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980" rel="nofollow - Redone 1977 Ski Tique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-04-2011 at 8:23pm
Your are absolutely correct. I do not consider my 1954, my 1964 or my 1977 boats to be very nice. It's funny but NO one I have ever talked to in the ACBS group I've belonged to for over 35 years recommends the junk. Of course none of them have nice boats ether. Oh, I forgot about my Universal 1927 Flexifour. None of the junk is in that engine ether. The Hot Rod and race group must be smarter on the old engines that the boat group. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-04-2011 at 8:39pm
Steve,
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Posted By: 74SkiNautique
Date Posted: July-04-2011 at 9:05pm
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Lead substitute allllll the way for me. Even if it did nothing, and i burned a valve, I could say i tried. I consider my SN to be worth every penny i spend on maint. for it. ------------- 74SkiNautique |
Posted By: 74SkiNautique
Date Posted: July-04-2011 at 9:10pm
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http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=78&pcid=12 this is the stuff. ------------- 74SkiNautique |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: July-08-2011 at 2:16am
74SN, Do you understand the actual mechanics of how a burnt valve occurs?
Pete, Were these old enignes 1/2 the compression of todays? Studying lantern fuel further, I read that it is around 40-50 octane and subject to spark knock on most of todays enignes. I'm looking for a lawn and garden equipment fuel alternative. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: 74SkiNautique
Date Posted: July-08-2011 at 3:04am
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Yes, and there is a reason lead was added. The EPA has since changed that, so they came out with the hardened valves and seats to be ok without lead. How ever, older engines still require it. So for less than $0.10 a gallon. Ill add the substitute to my gas ------------- 74SkiNautique |
Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: July-08-2011 at 4:40am
| 74 - if you're really worried about it, all the local air ports sell 80 octane and 100 octane LL. you'll probably pay more than the 10C per gallon in sur-charge, but your engine will run as it should. I have had several air cooled VW's over the years I've never put enough miles on one to have an issue.... If you feel better about addative, I say .10 c per gallon is small, consider how many gallons you'll need to use to buy a common 351w head and you'll have a good base line for comparison.... |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: July-08-2011 at 4:56am
Some of my dirt bike friends run the local airport fuel exclusively. It is good stuff and does not foul the carb like today's DOT junk. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-08-2011 at 9:53am
Yes the old engines are real low compression but the point I was trying to make is they ran fine without any lead. You don't want to run White gas in todays engines. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |