D Day on the knees
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Topic: D Day on the knees
Posted By: harddock
Subject: D Day on the knees
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 10:24am
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Any advice on replacement surgery. I am a big chicken but decision time is Thursday. Should I do one at a time,or both?. Any other suggestions Euflexa now the doc says replacement is my last option. The pain in the right one is constant, and getting intollerable.
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 12:26pm
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Doing both at the same time sounds like a recipe for disaster. ------------- |
Posted By: Terp
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 6:37pm
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Kevin, what's your definition of a big chicken? If you're simply anxious about procedures but can deal well w/ pain maybe both at the same time is a better choice. Everyone will have differing opinions on this but a good orthopod will give you solid advice (pros & cons) on this choice.
The advantages of simultaneous replacement are these: anesthesia & hospitalization once. Coming back into the hospital again for a second procedure exposes you once again to complications assoc. w/ hospitalization (infections, drug events, etc.) Likewise for the anesthesia. Coronary and neurologic events do happen w/ anesthesia. If you do ok w/ the first incidence of anesthesia you probably will w/ the second but there are no guarantees. Give me the choice of facing the risks (even though they are limited) once or twice and I'll always choose once. Also, you shouldn't be in the hospital significantly longer having both done simultaneously than just having one done. You probably already know this but whatever you do, do it at a center that does alot of knee replacements and is highly rated. That goes for the doc too. Choose an orthopod who specializes in and does ALOT of knees. And DO NOT hesitate to ask questions! |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 7:30pm
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I always figure doing both at the same time will keep my dumbarse from trying to get back up to speed on too aggressive at path. I figure I wouldnt have a choice if I did them both but with one good one you never know what kinda trouble I would get myself into. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: hasbeenskier
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 7:50pm
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Maybe a dumb question but are BOTH failing you? ------------- hasbeenskier |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 8:52pm
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My brother in law had to make the same decision but with his hips while in school full time. He is a leukemia survivor, but the treatments left the tops of his femurs brittle which started to break off to the point he could not walk. At first they said he was too young for the procedure, but new advances in technology made it possible for him to have it done at 20. He did both at the same time, only missed one semester of school, and was riding a bicycle 3 weeks after surgery! He still snowboards, (Burton was one of his Make-A-Wish sponsors and continues to send him gear to this day) and I had one afternoon with him this summer and almost got him up on the wakeboard.
For all the reasons Terp mentioned above and my bro's experience I would say jump in with both feet! ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 8:58pm
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Hey Keegan, do you happen to know the manufacturer of the replacements? How long ago was the surgery performed? I'm shopping "Hips" right now. The docs say I need both done, so I am starting the learning process.. I want decent parts to go in and not ones one the recall lists....
I'm glad to see he's recovering well. That's one tough SOB !!! Thanks Moj' ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 9:20pm
Dave I will look into the manufacturer for you. It was done 4 years ago at UNC-Chapel Hill. ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Mojo wrote:Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 9:26pm
Or hobble as the case may be  ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 10:19pm
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The left is in worse shape but in the last few months the pain in the right has become unbearable. The big chicken part concerns throwing away my original equipment and becoming bionic. One or two will be the doctor Or the insurance co's choice. It is a bit longer rcovery than a single but then only go through it once. Should know more Thursday. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Swatkinz
Date Posted: September-20-2011 at 10:33pm
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age?
comorbidities? etiology? not to get too medical, but all of these, and many more, are factors. Either way will suck and rehab will suck worse. Not having these answers, I'd probably go with one at a time. You're weakest knee is probably working your strong knee moreso than normal so fixing the weak one will probably indirectly benefit the other. Good luck either way. ------------- Steve 2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-21-2011 at 9:58am
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I got age (55), the original left was snowmobile jump with a rough landing ( left knee did some twisting) causing ACL, later torn Meniscus, had othroscopic 4 times over a 30 year period.
right has been a victim of favoring and snow ski ACL recently torn meniscus two operations to date. Both are loaded with arthritis. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-21-2011 at 10:08am
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we use to talk about a set of new ski's, now were talking about new knees, my body hurts, getting old ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: September-21-2011 at 10:39am
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Those things work kind of like a roller cam, will he need to add zinc to his diet for proper lubrication? What is the best brand? ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Terp
Date Posted: September-21-2011 at 4:27pm
Kevin, you figured out the etiology part. Comorbidities would be other diseases/disorders such as diabetes, coronary artery disease, peripheral vascular disease, hypertension, etc. etc. You will need a general medical clearance from your internist before the surgery. Just to ensure any medical problems you do have are under proper control. If any flags are raised during that process you may have to undergo additional testing/treatments prior to getting cleared for the knee replacement(s). |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: September-21-2011 at 6:44pm
I was wrong on both counts here. It was 5 years ago and the procedure was done at Duke. Still waiting on the brand and the Doctor's name. From what my sister said, how well it works and how long it lasts has a lot to do with the Dr installing them. Will get back as soon as I get the details. ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: September-21-2011 at 7:14pm
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Cool.. I'm very interested to know Keegan, so I can pass them through my doctor.. I have heard nightmare stories about bad hardware that later gets recalled.....
Thanks Dave ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: September-21-2011 at 7:17pm
Hope to get answers by this evening. I cannot imagine having a recall on something inside my body! That is scary. ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 10:21am
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is it a University hospital where all those hot 20 year old girl MD college students watch the procedure and stare at your junk? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 10:25am
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Kevin,
When I spotted the title of this thread, my first thought was it was a HW or CQ thread!! 
Good luck with the procedure. My best to you and hoping it's successful. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 10:26am
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No just a city hospital with nurses that look like they could have played for Germany or Russia in the olympics of the 60's. The operating room was used in those old Frankenstein movies. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 11:22am
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ONE AT A TIME. Call my wife. She's had her left knee done twice because the domb a** Dr put the WRONG size parts in the first time. Now her Rt.knee needs to be replaced and shes scared to death. They make knee replacements in male & female now and in different sizes.
I've got significant arthritis and the ortho Dr says I've got a knee replacement in the future. For now when it gets REAL painful I get shot up and it helps for months. Seriously my wife is a nurse and a patient and she has a lot of insite. If you would like to talk to her shoot me an e mail with your phone no and I'll give you a call after work. ------------- - waterdog - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3896&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - 78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 12:09pm
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sometimes your better off not knowing, i always wonder if you rip one on the table if they joke about and what they say.
Pete's reaction, very professional, step back and lets be adults here, it is a normal bodily funtion when gastric juice is mixed with fresh air. Erics reaction, wtf did that guy eat lastnite, he needs to take a sht ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 12:34pm
My Dad is a surgeon and yes he will laugh at you while listening to Dinah Mo Hum by Zappa on the stereo. He loves getting a rise out of the staff because most of the guys in the field are so stuffy and uptight. His staff loves him. ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 8:07pm
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Ok here'e the update, The doctor started with it might be time to do them both but I told him the left (which is more deteriorated) is fine with the Euflexa shots and the right is really the one with an issue. He sent me for a new series of xrays for the right and since it has been 6 years since the last othroscopic and the damage not he as bad compared to the left I made a case for another othroscopic. This is great because those are not that big a deal and I can put off replacements (hopefully) for a couple more years. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: September-22-2011 at 10:56pm
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Kevin,
Thats realy good news. I won't go into all my medical crap but no one, not the best doctors know you as good as YOU know YOU. The more you know about your situation the better. After all your the one who has to endure the pain. ------------- - waterdog - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3896&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - 78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: September-24-2011 at 2:19pm
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One thing to consider in putting it off a couple years is that you also could be putting off a better quality of life for a couple years. My wife had her left hip replaced at 38. She will need the right one done. We figured two years after the first. She is going on 6 years this winter and has a couple more left, at least. She says frequently that getting the first one done was the best thing she ever did. She rides horses, works out daily, wakesurfs, hikes, and anything else she wants to do. All were impossible to do without crippling pain prior.
I think given the choice, I would do it sooner than later. You never know when the bus is going to come. Additionally, what if your insurance coverage changes by the time you get around to it? That would be a disaster. I think Mrs Wakeslayer's hip was like $40k. Good luck, whatever you do. ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: September-24-2011 at 4:11pm
No doubt the insurance company dictates which procedure and when. that being said every year technology gets better and from what I've heard replacing replacements is where it gets ugly. Since I'm only 55 I should wear out a set before I go to the big slalom course in the sky. Shots have helped but are no lomger working on the right. So like I mentioned earlier if I can get a couple more years out of OEM parts I'm goin for the othroscopic. Thanks for the replies. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 10:37am
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Finally after what seemed like forever (two months) I go under today. We were able to put off replacements and just going to clean up the right knee. Funny thing is the pain has been excrutiating for a couple of months and this last week while putting stuff away and wrapping up some projects it has been tolerable. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Keeganino
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 12:54pm
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Good luck and a speedy recovery! ------------- "working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4897" rel="nofollow - 1973 Skier |