176 Rudder
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Printed Date: March-14-2025 at 5:00am
Topic: 176 Rudder
Posted By: watrski
Subject: 176 Rudder
Date Posted: October-05-2011 at 1:55pm
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-05-2011 at 2:03pm
Noticed this yesterday. Appears to be a mid-96 model year switch? What's the deal Jody, did Correct Craft run out of supply on this rudder?
infite's 96
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: October-05-2011 at 4:21pm
that SS rudder is really a pancake..lol
HW i noticed the same yesterday...anyway the brass one is still smaller than the 196 rudder...
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Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: October-05-2011 at 7:21pm
I always thought the Stainless with the bad looking weld was terrible. It looked cheap to be going on a nautique.
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-06-2011 at 10:01am
thats what i remember the most was the weld splatter on the SS, I also remember barely, grinding it, sanding it and buffing it, it looked like chrome when i was done
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-06-2011 at 10:12am
nautique frk wrote:
I always thought the Stainless with the bad looking weld was terrible. It looked cheap to be going on a nautique. |
eric lavine wrote:
thats what i remember the most was the weld splatter on the SS, |
Come on guys - CC brought the old guy that used to build their trailers out of retirement to make the rudders. Give him a break!! All he had was his old AC "buzz box" and we know SS rod runs better on DC!!! Pluss, I'm sure he didn't know about some of the more high tech items like splatter shield!!
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-25-2013 at 1:45pm
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-25-2013 at 2:07pm
Looks like I made it
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Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 12:39am
Thanks for the bump Hollywood!!
This looks like what I need.
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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 1:02am
What was the performance issue with the welded rudder? Did it stall in a fast turn?
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Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 1:11am
Chris, that's what everyone has been telling me since I picked mine up. It makes sense given the shape. It looks like it would create a lot of turbulence vs a rudder with chord.
watrski have you used both? report?
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 1:43am
Here it is from Jody himself-
Fl Inboards wrote:
What do ya want to know about the 176?
I can tell ya set up with a 11-A tabbed rudder and a GT-40 they are wonderfull ski boats. In My opinion one of if not the finest slalom boats ever built.
This was the first computer rendered boat that We Built at Correct Craft. All the original frame stations for the plug came off a computer and then C&C cut on a router. A master Craftsmen tool maker then skined and faired the plug. when one looks a 176 you can see the clean crisp tool work that this man did.
I remember that the boat was so good that managament at the time had us de-tune the boat by installing a hand made stainless steel rudder that was way under sized. Down side to the boat is that it has a rather small interrior space.
None the less it was ahead of its time as it truly was a wide body boat in comparison to what was built at that time.
Also the 176 when weighted made a pretty fair little wakeboard boat.
When Ron Scarpa was still with us he had a GT-40 equipped stripped down 176 that he kept even a number of years after he went to Malibu.
If you dont mind small interrior space and want the best wakes for overall skiing the 176 is a great little boat!
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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15446&PN=1&title=sn-176" rel="nofollow - Here is the original thread,after HW posted the rudder pictures it jogged the old memory cells
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Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 1:52am
hahah I was looking everywhere for that thread when I was in the process of buying this thing.
Thanks Gary!!
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 2:18am
Your welcome Chris.I have been looking for that thread on that wood boat so I know how you feel. For that thread on the rudder I remembered Jody talking about it so I google searched F1 Inboards 176. Sometimes you find them!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 9:53am
No sure if it was made clear in this thread, but Tim C confirmed that you can't put an 11a on a 176 unless you also swap out the rudder port. The 11a has a 1-1/4" shaft, the 176 uses a 1-1/8". Both the ss home made rudder and the nibral replacement are 1-1/8"... And I'm *guessing the nibral replacement offers a handling improvement similar to the 11a, but I don't know if anyone has ever done that comparison back to back.
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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 11:39am
I think I remember someone saying CC was concerned that the boat would handlt to well with the nibral rudder so they made up that scary looking SS rudder to take away some of the handling. People or CC thought they were turds with the SS rudder so the nibral was released later? I could call and get info.
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Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 11:59am
phatsat67 wrote:
I think I remember someone saying CC was concerned that the boat would handlt to well with the nibral rudder so they made up that scary looking SS rudder to take away some of the handling. People or CC thought they were turds with the SS rudder so the nibral was released later? I could call and get info. | Yeah, i think there was more info on that in the thread from Jody. He said management didn't want the 176 eclipsing their flagship Ski Nautique so they purposely detuned it with the rudder.
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Posted By: malibud
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 2:04pm
Ive got a 176 that I was going to post in the spring if anyone is interested pm me
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Posted By: Florida Inboards
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 2:16pm
bhectus wrote:
phatsat67 wrote:
I think I remember someone saying CC was concerned that the boat would handlt to well with the nibral rudder so they made up that scary looking SS rudder to take away some of the handling. People or CC thought they were turds with the SS rudder so the nibral was released later? I could call and get info. | Yeah, i think there was more info on that in the thread from Jody. He said management didn't want the 176 eclipsing their flagship Ski Nautique so they purposely detuned it with the rudder. |
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176.... Great little boat! If you are a slalom skier probably the best slalom boat ever designed up to the current 200 platform. Yea one could say the boat was to good and it was up staging the Ski Nautique in some realms of function. The decision was made to De-tune so to speak via utilizing a smaller rudder. Find a 176 with the GT-40 and a 11-a rudder installed and it will track and drive as good or better then it's big brother. I would some day like to Parlay into one!
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 2:32pm
Gary S wrote:
searched F1 Inboards |
F lowercase L. Short for Florida. Fl Inboards. Not F1. Probably why he's now going by "Florida Inboards"
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Posted By: Florida Inboards
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 2:48pm
Why you Ask. Because the CCF fan server lost all my old log on information and I could not access the web site with the old persona! For some reason it was troublesome so I just became another persona. Oh well!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 3:00pm
Florida Inboards wrote:
Find a 176 with the GT-40 and a 11-a rudder installed |
How about a 176 and the 176-specific nibral rudder... any feedback on how that would make the boat handle (as opposed to the stainless home made one)?
Some people may be interested in swapping the rudder only, as opposed to changing the port as well (since that is needed to use the 11A).
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Posted By: Florida Inboards
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 3:10pm
IMOP Both rudders were minimal effective for slow speed maneuverability. I think spend the extra jing on a 11-A rudder and port it would be one of the best boat buy upgrade's one could do for that model!
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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: February-26-2013 at 3:17pm
A 176 is on my to own bucket list of CC boats.
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Posted By: NautiPurrr176
Date Posted: September-29-2017 at 1:15am
I'm very late to the party here but just picked up a 176, she's a beaut! This might be a silly question, but when swapping out the rudder ports, for the 11-A, are the hole patterns identical?
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