help identifying correct craft
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Topic: help identifying correct craft
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Subject: help identifying correct craft
Date Posted: October-13-2011 at 10:31pm
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I bought a correct craft and i need help identifying it. The guy i bought it from had no idea what year it was from but siad the guy he got it from had sotred it inside and owed him money. From what i've been able to find the model is A329 and its a v8 interceptor engine with serial number A7R110190. I was looking at restoring the boat and making it a skiing and maybe adding a tower for wakeboarding. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I will post pictures tomorrow.
JJ 
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-13-2011 at 11:00pm
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Pictures always help
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Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-15-2011 at 11:08pm
here are some pictures. Hopefully this helps
  
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Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 1:28am
Cool Find, I am no expert but it looks close to this 1958 atom from the diaries, Pete will come by probably in the morning and have a better idea. He will also reem you a new one for considering putting a tower on that classic. Looks like you have all the original hardware, nice find.
 ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 2:19am
| i thought it was an atom skier but i never saw the ski pole in it. It also has 2 hole drilled on the port and starboard sides just behind the windshiled. There about 2". Would anyone know why they would be drilled out there? Thanks for the help so far. |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 2:34am
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Looks like the diaries boat has some chrome air vents located there, Fresh air intakes for the motor compartment? ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 2:36am
Correct Craft was ahead of thier time , maybe they are cup holders.  ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 11:23am
its not quite big enough to be cup holders. 
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OverMyHead wrote:Posted By: bbishop1974
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 11:25am
nice find.the barn it s in looks nice too.maybe he has some leftover hand hewn beams leftover for a wake tower 
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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 11:34am
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JJ, great find, hope you're just kidding about putting a tower on an antique boat . . . ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 11:39am
Looks just like this one to me, an Atom Skier Deluxe. I believe they called it Deluxe as it had a different gauge panel and steering wheel than the standard. The one in the avove photo is actually a '59 or '60, I believe. The A in the engine number means 256 one carb, which is what the one in the above photo had. |
Posted By: 65 'cuda
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 12:09pm
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A genuine Barn Find, are you in Ohio? ------------- Gary http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=941" rel="nofollow - 1965 Barracuda SS |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 4:10pm
yep up in ohio west of toledo about 5 miles from the maumee river. The boat wasnt a barn find, i just put it in our barn till corn harvest is over so ill have room in the shop to work on it.
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 4:35pm
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I just caught this thread!! Yes, everyone's correct that it is an Atom. Great find but it sure needs some work. It may be tough to bring the bright work back since the varnish has bee very neglected. What's up with the transom?? Fill me in as I can't tell if it's rot and peeling paint or what??
Does the engine run? How far back from the windshield are the 2" holes? A tower on the boat??? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 4:55pm
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Pete, I think I see them on the second picture of the second post. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 5:35pm
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Come on you guy's if you didn't spend all your time tubin and thinking about tubes you'd know there are other water sports,those are rod holders ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 6:03pm
The holes are right behing the front row of seats. There is some rot on the stern of the boat but i think i can cut a new piece of wood to fit. I have no idea if the engine runs. The guy i got it from had it rebuilt but then had to get rid of the boat. It has no oil is gas so it shouldnt be set up. I think i will sand down all the varnish and then revarnish and caulk it. Also i dont see a ski pole right behind the engine. The ohio water craft registration expired in 1990 so this boat hasnt been in the water for a while |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 6:23pm
Maybe it does not run, and they are holes for oar locks! ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 6:31pm
| They are for vents. There should be 2 aluminum tubes that go from the holes in the deck to a holes in the floor board. You should have 4 chrome vents. Two for those holes and two for the holes in the side near the transom. It looks better than the one from the diaries, which we bought in '09. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 7:18pm
Then, they are holes for venting the engine/bilge. Someone must have stolen the "clam shell" vents. Do NOT just think you can replace the skin on the transom!! You WILL find additional work inside!! Also, this is a ply skin hull and CC's idea of bonding the ply to the hull was to use a bedding compound like Dolfinite. This is simply a linseed oil and talc based product that dries out over time. So, the bottom line is the only thing holding the ply skin to the frames and ALL the seams are the screws. Looking at the pictures, this is evident. You have a project ahead of you!!!!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 7:21pm
Not necessarily Bruce - CC didn't always use the tubes. Some models simply had a panel covering the space between the frames creating the "channel" down to the bilge. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 7:44pm
| Pete, you are correct about the other models, but our Atom did have the tubes. It didn't have side panels though and this one looks like it does, although who know if they are original or not? That boat looks much better than ours which needed all new skins, however, I was surprised at how good the condition that the framing was in once we tore it apart. |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 7:49pm
| the transom below the water is fine. Its the transom above water that needs repaired. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 9:59pm
Bruce, I have a feeling the side panels were on the deluxe hull. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 10:02pm
You need to investigate deeper. You are only looking at the surface and not the inside frames. Trust me, you have problems! The popped filler over the tops of the screws is a great indicator. You evidently do not have any woodworking boat building experiencing! We are here to help you since you will need it! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 10:53pm
I have never worked on boats, just tractors. I figured i try something different for my next restoration. |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 11:00pm
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JJ, If you could fill out your profile with at least a first name, we tend prefer them to screen names. This site and especially Pete are great sources for your project ahead. Make sure you ask first, Listen to the good advice, and make a good plan before you proceed. It will save you time, money and headaches. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-16-2011 at 11:54pm
| so will i just want to completely redo the transom or should i get more picture tomorrow so you guys can get a better look at the boat. |
Posted By: juniorwoody
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 11:53am
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Greetings JJ, Glad to see another going through the trials and tribulations of rebuilding, refurbishing and or refinishing another old Correct Craft. My son and I started working on a 1950 Jr Utility just this summer. Will be back at it as soon as I can pacify the most important family member with the installation of a new kitchen. You will find my thread a few pages back if interested. A word of caution, bring your thick skin to this meeting place where you will find all the information to complete your project. The members are straight forward and most often right, even if they are the bearers of bad news. As soon as you adjust your thinking to the reality that you will be removing the hull plywood, repairing any keel, stem or frame rot and reinstalling the skin with the 5200 system, you will be able to go with the flow in an orderly fashion. Resist the temptation to do any less.
Best wishes, Jack |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 12:20pm
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JJ,
This http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12287&KW=&title=1955-atom-skier-updates - thread might be a good reference for you. His photo links are still active so you can get a good look at what you've got ahead of you. Unfortunately all these old Correct crafts suffer the same issues. Dried bedding compound is a given and the boat will need to be dismantled and reassembled to be water tight. What you find beyond that is the typical things, rotted or broken knee braces, broken or rotted frame members and the worst to deal with is a delaminated or rotted stem. All are repairable and several here including myself have first hand knowledge and will be glad to help. All you can do at this point is start taking it apart, survey the condition of the framework and decide if you want to put the time and money into it. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-18-2011 at 7:44pm
| I was looking just behind the front seat and there is no hole for a ski pole. Did all of these come with ski poles or not. Will this be something i have to build in when i tear it apart? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-18-2011 at 10:08pm
JJ, Spend some time exploring the site. The reference section as well as the diaries are wonderful tools. In the ref section, you'll find catalogs and price sheets that will list the details. The pylon was an option! Yes, you'll need to fabricate a period correct pylon and build it in with your restoration. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-19-2011 at 1:02am
| Thanks for the help so far. Im sure ill need much more. I hope to start working on the boat in 2 weeks and be done by July of 2012. I think the hull is still in good shape so i hopefully wont have to pull that big v8 out. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-19-2011 at 12:40pm
JJ, Don't get your hopes up. You have had three seasoned wood CC veterans warn you about the bedding compound. We haven't even told you about the stem yet!
You do need to spend some more time reading some of the great threads here. Keep us posted. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: October-19-2011 at 7:13pm
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Pete, cut the guy a little slack! He will learn one way or the other, the job he is about to undertake will educate him more than any reading he can do about this "simple task".I can only speak for my "education into wooden boats" .I too have a small amount of knowledge since my purchase and "resto" of 4 wood CC's. I chose to use info from a number of sources, both novice and old timers,to do the best job I could.The bottom line of all this "resore back better than the factory" to me is a poison pill.Why have a boat that you are afraid to use?Why spend more on a preservation than the boat is worth, then leave it on the trailer to be shown off like a "trophy wife". Allow him to make the same mistakes the rest of us have made, some times an education can be very expensive, Almost as much as following blindly with misinformation that came from the "PRO's"....Let him ask the questions............. ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-20-2011 at 11:44pm
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How long can you leave these boats in the water. We go up to a camp in Michigan for a week. The boat would be in the water for 6 days. Can you leave them in the water that long or not. Also did these boats have swim platforms?
JJ |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-21-2011 at 9:26am
6 days would be the max. The topside paint used on the bottom should be fine even though it's not a "below the waterline paint" I suggest Pettit Easypoxy. JJ[/QUOTE]
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 1:34am
| i was wondering if the rope tie up on the stern could pull tubes. I am hoping to be able to pull 2 tubes if possible and maybe ski off it. I've saw people do it but i really want to make sure you can before id try it |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 2:30am
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I believe the "rope tie up" is the lifting ring, it is designed for vertical loads only (Lifting)and is not a good tow point, keep an eye out for the right vintage pylon and add it during your restore. I cant wait to see what Pete has to say about two tubes behind that boat. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 2:34am
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JJ, if you haven't done so already, I'd canvass that barn really good, just to be sure you're not leaving any parts behind. Having grabbed a few barn-finds myself over the years...mostly cars and planes, I have usually found a few pieces sitting on the floor, in the rafters, ect...that belonged to my find.
Good luck with the resto, and we all look forward to following your progress. Mark |
Posted By: jjcorrectcraftfan
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 11:44am
This is my barn that i put it in so i havent moved any parts. I looked at the guys house i got it from but i didnt see any either. I have a ski pylon on ebay but never the clam vents or correct craft name plate. Any ideas were i could get correct craft parts? |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 11:51am
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Keep your eye on ebay and CCF. Parts come up occationally. A pair of decent clamshell vents sold a couple weeks ago.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160657160604&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AONA%3AMOTORS%3A1123&vxp=mtr - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160657160604&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AONA%3AMOTORS%3A1123&vxp=mtr |
Posted By: Roym
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 4:51pm
Hummmmmmm, I need to get one of those "Tropy wife's" Are they good with working on wood! |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 5:34pm
JJ, I'm getting the impression that you are "toying" with us. Ether that or you have not taken the suggestion of doing some searching and reading. Just in case, Dave is correct - that "Rope tie up" is the lifting ring and absolutely vertical loads only! I think you had better concentrate on the restoration and not pulling tubes!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 5:41pm
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The proper place to attach two tubes is the tow point on the back.....of a Bayliner! ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-22-2011 at 9:37pm
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: October-23-2011 at 12:05am
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too funny Peter..........Chummin maybe? ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: scottb
Date Posted: October-24-2011 at 1:15pm
| Yes, but tying the tubes makes it safer to work on your wood. Oh wait ... wrong forum. |