427 side oiler
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Printed Date: November-15-2024 at 7:02pm
Topic: 427 side oiler
Posted By: Whitfield
Subject: 427 side oiler
Date Posted: October-14-2011 at 7:43pm
http://www.nautiqueowners.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17666&PID=300350#300350 Long story short ~ this boat didn't float for more then a few hrs and remained under water. It did not get salvaged until this morning. Now the (2) 427 side oilers are sitting in my friends shop. Any suggestions on how best to market them. Pulling the oil pan the insides are still like new. One engine still had antifreeze in it as both were freshwater cooled. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
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Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: October-14-2011 at 7:49pm
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Pickleing currently in progress ~ ~
Pics coming soon
------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-15-2011 at 11:12am
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Evil Pay, a rebuilt one ready to roll will bring 7 to 10k
the Cobra guys suck them up ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-15-2011 at 11:14am
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or find some Cobra forums, I would bet there were some Paragan p-44s hanging on the back of those engines, those to have value...get the numbers off of them and post, they at least have good core value and i can point you to a few shops that may want them ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-15-2011 at 11:15am
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300 horse 300 lb ft of torque
------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: October-15-2011 at 3:15pm
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Yes 2 -drives too.
Everything is amazingly good for being submerged. Drive Numbers and pics on Monday gotta leave and make a 150 mile drive to a family stew with wifeys family. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 1:05pm
a few cell phone pics ~
 ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 1:07pm
Drive pic ~ no numbers yet ~ maybe today after work.
 ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 1:23pm
| Were they sunk in fresh or salt water? The marine engines typically are cast as side oilers, but drilled as top oilers, so aren't really side oilers, but they are popular with the car guys anyways. Check this web site out. Tons of FE info on it. If you take the casting numbers off the block and and off the heads and do a search on the web site, you'll likely come up with tons of info on what you have. Those look like early 60's engines based on the valve covers. http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/ - http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/ |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 1:40pm
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Thanks Riley,
These were both heat excahnger / closed water cooled systems but the boat was used in fresh water ~ just down river from Richmond Va. 
I'll head over to network54 and do some digging. Found this comment ~ 8^) http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/message/1058122657/Jewels+of+the+Nile+%28or+any+waterway%29 Jewels of the Nile (or any waterway) July 13 2003 at 11:57 AM bb (Login qikbbstang) Members Response to Even fresh water can be a problem. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A closed loop Marine block is I believe generally a deal since it rarely sees high RPM (yachts did not see any more then 4000 for the most part and spent 98% of their running time at or below 3000.). A 427 from a boat did not see high valve spring pressures (ever seen worn out lifter bores on a 427?) nor the abuse (explosions etc) so common to auto high perf engines. As an extra bonus the block has seen numerous heat cycles and is aged well.  ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: October-18-2011 at 9:38am
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Still working to identify the transmision.
Doesn't look like a paragon number. 
Only number I can find on the trans (R12339) (JFC) 
Head casting numbers C7JE 8090A 
------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-18-2011 at 9:52am
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they are Paragons, 9-43 p-44 depending on the ratio ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Whitfield
Date Posted: October-26-2011 at 5:02pm
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Eric when is the best time to give you a call. I don't want to tie up your working time. I need to find a home for these transmissions and would like your advice. ------------- Michael .... I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-27-2011 at 9:55am
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core value, 200.00 a piece, if someone needs one 1800.00 to 3500.00 rebuilt.
Chris Craft used a ton of these tranny's and you have to market them as such. Chris Craft forums possibly, e-bay, all depends what you are looking to get out of them I have about 6 of them and the wiseman holds out to fetch the big money. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Luchog
Date Posted: October-27-2011 at 10:41pm
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just saw one of these engines on a boat next to me at a marina while working on a faulty Volvo Penta trim pump, pretty impressive animal, are they any good? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2095" rel="nofollow - 1980 Ski Nautique Commander 351W |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-28-2011 at 9:50am
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they are workhorses Luch, Clydesdales ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-28-2011 at 11:24am
| Google 427 FE. Lot's of interesting reading. |