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Topic: Considering buying a Winnebago
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Subject: Considering buying a Winnebago
Date Posted: December-09-2011 at 6:05pm
I need some advise from the RV owners here.

My wife has informed me that she does not want to tent camp on our weekend trips to the lake next year. I have to agree with her, the tent is a PITA.
On our last trip back in October I ran into a guy while we were camping at Salt Fork Lake and he had just bought a new Fleetwood motor home. While talking to him he mentioned that he was looking to sell his old motor home so I gave him my email and asked him to send me some info. I went out and looked at it a couple weeks ago and was pretty impressed with the shape it was in. It's an 84 Winnebago Elandan 32' here are the details he sent me and some pics. What do you guys think? He's asking 5k for it. He said it should pull my boat just fine, what do you guys think? I'm still considering how I will launch the boat once at the lake... I'm thinking about maybe putting a front hitch on it, or just having my wife follow in the truck...

I know nothing about these things. Is there anywhere I should be looking for trouble? When I went to see it, it started right up and ran great. He offered to let me take it for a drive but since I have never drove one, I declined. I talked to him again last night on the phone for over an hour, he hasn't advertised it anywhere and doesn't intend to until spring comes. He swears that everything works and it drives great. Paula hasn't seen it yet, so we may go look at it together this weekend.

"454 cubic inch Chevy engine; 52,000 miles; 6.5 KV Onan generator (98 hours); Carrier 13,500 BTU roof air 5 years old; upgraded Dometic Americana 2 way refrigerator; microwave; 4 burner stove with oven; separate shower & bathroom; new windshield curtains; new awning 15 ft; bedroom awnings; electric step; 100 gallon freshwater tank; 3 holding tanks with LED level gauges; propane hot water heater with auto ingnition; Reese hitch; new tires and brakes at 48,000 miles; well maintained & very clean."























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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: December-09-2011 at 6:37pm
As much as I want to tell you run as fast as you can for 5K it's hard to go wrong. It does look to be in pretty good shape for something of that vintage.

Downside is I would bet it's only rated to pull 3500# so even though it will pull your boat without a problem you won't be legal. Short local trips I would do it but not over the road.

Secondly it will be an absolute pig on fuel and that stuff ain't getting any cheaper. Our Bounder gets 6-7 mpg with a tailwind and I'm FI not carbed. Registration, insurance, maintenance costs and fuel your about 1.00 per mile to move it.

Without slides on it and with 5 people you could be pretty tight. We've managed all these years with 4 of us and 2 dogs but it gets cramped at times.

Ours spends 90% of it's time down at the lake, I store it about a mile from the campground so we drive down with the boat, pick up the camper and we're set up in 10 minutes. I turned a 240 mile round trip to about 3 miles in the camper, well worth it to find storage near your destination lake. Cost me $32/month for outside storage so if you could find a situation like that it may work out for you. Forget about the romance of driving it to Disney world, it's not a practical way to vacation anymore.

There are a ton of newer tow behind campers for less than $10k that have slides so if you could find that storage site near the lake that's your answer. So much less money to maintain something with out a drivetrain. Insurance is cheaper and you'll still get better mileage towing it than driving the 34 footer.

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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-09-2011 at 6:38pm
dang randy! Can I make a reservation?! Thats a big RV.

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Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: December-09-2011 at 8:31pm
Randy,

I know where I am staying at Green Lake this summer.

Heck Eric will give you 5K for that 454.

LOL

Donald


Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-09-2011 at 9:01pm
Alan, I'm glad you replied, you know you were my go to guy on the operation of my camper at GL!

I had thought about storing it near a lake, I think it would work out pretty good, especially since Paula won't drive either this or my truck with the boat or a camper behind it. Funny you mentioned the "romantic" trip to disney, we were just talking about that possibility last night. How about an autumn trip to the "Arrighi Campground"?

We looked at new pull behind trailers, almost pulled the trigger on a new 35' Keystone Sprinter with three slide outs. It was really nice, had a huge room in the back, slept 12 people comfortably... they have great deals on them right now. We even looked around for a campground to keep it at, but the more I thought about it, I think I would rather have the option to move it around easily, be able to take trips to events, and move from lake to lake and campground to campground. If we chose a campground and then didn't like the crowd that was there we would be stuck. And we really like Salt Fork, but there is only one state park campground on the lake and 14 days per month is the maximum you can stay, so we would have to stay off the lake and pull the boat back and forth. I know it's a lot smaller but when we go we spend most of our day on the water and really just need a place to sleep and keep food and beer cold. It will sleep 6, there is a pull down bunk above the front seats. Besides, I like buying vintage stuff and putting a little work into it!

Is there anything I should look at that may be a problem?



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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-09-2011 at 9:08pm
Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

dang randy! Can I make a reservation?! Thats a big RV.


Justin, You'll have to come to the gathering at Salt Fork this summer, If I get this we will designate it as the part spot. I don't know if I'll have room inside for you, but you would be welcome to sleep underneath it.



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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-09-2011 at 10:12pm
Randy take the money your going to spend on it,take the insurance,gas,storage,maintance and license money and stay at a motel- they even cleanup after you.

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Posted By: fanofccfan
Date Posted: December-09-2011 at 10:48pm
Randy

Motorhomes are a ton of fun......but.......nickles and dimes can turn into hundies pretty quick when the repair man comes calling. I have had one (notice the key word "had") and they do need fixing most of the time. With all that being said, for 5K go for it, your family will have a blast and make great memories and that my friend is priceless.

Bill


Posted By: DieselCash
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 12:15am
I think the price is high

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/rvs/2724949826.html

Go to NADA and see what it is worth up there.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 10:51am
Like Correct Crafts, these rot just as bad, look for water stains on the ceilings and walk around that thing looking for soft spots, I really hate old motor homes because they sit around and rot and the less they are used the more the problem they are...my theory on them, just like boats.....2 happy days, and you use one of them up real quick. they will nickle and dime you to death...the one big thing that i noticed when i had a motorhome that we used pretty much every weekend, was 100.00 in grocery's, 150.00 in the boat gas (put in bay trips), 80.00 to the local attractions, because the kids bore easily, 30.00 in medication (alcohol) 30.00 for wood at the campfire, 30.00 to the kids for the arcade to let them dis-appear to take care of business which that may not be gaureenteed....it adds up, especially if you use it every weekend

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 10:53am
and how many friends do you have that show up with more than a 6 pack and 10 bucks for gas?

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"the things you own will start to own you"


Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 10:57am
one thing i do remember on my trip to Disney, we got to frontier land, set-up camp, hit the AC and nothing, starting calling around and the minimum i was looking at was 500.00 for someone to repair at the site....luckily im mechanically inclined and found out that it was a 21.00 capacitor
rent one for the weekend its cheaper

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Posted By: critter
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 11:33am
Randy,
Check around all the windows inside and out. The Butyl Tape dries out and cracks and then leaks. It is easy to replace but time comsuming.
Check for soft spots on the roof. If it is a rubber roof, it is recommended to replace every 12 to 14 years. I had to replace my complete roof. Rubber and wood. Check the sides for delamination. You get water between the outside skin and wood inner skin. Cannot be fixed without major costs.
The rest that I can think of others have covered. We have used ours to go to 4-corners out west, GL, FL, lots of camping trips and a 4 month trip to Alaska. Would do it all over again.
Keep it covered when not in use. An ANCO cover is cheap when compared to water intrusion when no ones around to see and stop it.

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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 3:05am
Patti and I started with a tent. Stayed up at the Bay one weekend. Rain. End of tent. Had 2 motorhomes. First one was not much more than a glorified van but we made it work. Even used it one year in Tennessee for us and another couple. Second one was a 25' Honey on a Chevy Chassis. Loved it and every minute of using it. Stayed in it every weekend at the Bay. Took it to Tennessee. Had it 12 years and would do it all over again. We did leave it up at the Bay and would travel by car up to it. Patti could back the boat in with it. We got so much family fun outa it.

It ain't my 5k but I would say go for it. If you use it..you won't be sorry. But you can't let it sit. Have to make the commitment to use it often.

BTW..just got my calender..beautiful shot of your Sport.

john

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:


BTW..just got my calender..beautiful shot of your Sport.


Thanks John. I took about 800 shots to get a couple good ones I had no idea how to work the camera.

I'm taking the wife to look at it this afternoon. I'm afraid that after looking at the new trailers with all the room they offer she is going to think this is a little small and outdated but I think this is going to be a good way to get our feet wet in the RV world without making a big commitment. I figure if we can use it for a year or two and visit different campgrounds near the lakes we like to go to then maybe we can get one of the bigger trailers and keep it at campground we like.

Gary makes a great point, you probably can stay at a motel for the same cost as moving this thing around, but there are no motels anywhere near the lakes we like to visit, and with 3 kids you almost need two rooms or a suite. and then you can't cook or have a campfire and the kids can't run around...

I checked the roof out when I looked at it before, it's not a rubber over wood roof, it's aluminum and has seems that are sealed up with some type of caulking. The owner said he has replaced this caulking when it gets old and he just did it a year ago. He has used it regularly and has kept it stored indoors during the winter months. I'm going to check around all of the windows when I look at it today.




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Posted By: KFD14
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 2:28pm
Here's my set up. Have a couple of options for bodies of water but they are all about 60 miles away. We use it almost every weekend and I wouldn't give it up for anything. By the time you add up the savings of a hotel room and eating out evey meal you cover the gas bill pretty quick. We take ours on a two week road trip every spring. Great way to see the country and spend some time with the fam. I get about 10 miles/gallon boat or no boat. Can't tell the difference when driving either, just have to be more carefull in tight areas. All in all about 55' long. I can launch my boat on just about any ramp with it. Pretty used to driving large vehicles though. There is a ton that can go wrong or have to be fixed with motorhomes. Water systems, electrical, chassis, ect. If you don't know much about them take it to a reputable RV shop and spend the money to have them go through it. They can give you a report on what is good or not so good. One other plus, it's considered a second home when it comes to your taxes and some of the costs of ownership can be written off, FYI. Good Luck, IMHO it's the best possible set up!



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Posted By: critter
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 2:48pm
Really nice looking rig there Seth.   

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 2:53pm
Seth, This is the kind of feed back I'm looking for. How big is your MH? what type of engine? I see a big mountain or hill in the background, how does it do going up something like that?! I would like to be able to pull the boat with this occasionally, to CCfan gatherings and such but I want it to be safe. This MH I'm looking at has four wheel disk brakes, which the owner told me was a rare option for that vintage. I bought my boat trailer new three years ago and it's a tandem axle with four wheel disk brakes. I'm thinking with disk brakes on all axles I should be ok stopping it. My boat is listed at 2700 lb. according to the brochure in the reference section and the trailer is about 1000 lb. So I'm guessing the whole thing loaded and wet would be about 4000 - 4500 lbs. I have looked everywhere and can't find the towing capacity of the 84 Elandan. I am going to look for a sticker in the door jam when I go look at it today.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 3:10pm
is this going to be a Robin Williams saga?"
Randy, my comments were not towards not purchasing, i was just posting some of the hidden costs
there is no reason you cant pull your boat with it, I kinda miss the hillbilly Bently, was nice to buzz up there on a Friday night and get away

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Posted By: KFD14
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 3:38pm
It's a 93' Thor Ambassador. It's 32' with a Chevy 454, injected. I have a couple of passes that we have to traverse. On hot days it struggles a little. These things run hot anyway. I am suprised to hear about the disks, seems like an early year for that kind of option. My trailer doesn't even have a surge brake but like I said before I can't tell that the boat is behind me, going up or down. When we go to the lake I pull the boat with the motorhome exclusively, otherwise I'd have to pay for gas for two engines plus the boat.

To figure out the towing capacity figure out what kind of chassis it's on. Most of the manufactures use someone elses chassis. With a chevy engine it's probably a chevy chassis. Could be the workhorse P30, mine is. Those chassis weren't the best, kind of on the small side for a 30+ motorhome. Some of the issues are with the linkage in the front end. Not a deal breaker just something to look at and fairly expensive to get parts for.

Look around before you jump on this. If it's your first MH look at others. Options available are limitless and some will fit your desires better than others. Pretty easy to find amazing deals on these in this economy. I got mine for almost half off of the sticker price at a dealer that was going under. Sad for them but made it affordable for me.

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Posted By: KFD14
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 3:53pm
Randy, if you want give me a call and we can chat about it.           208-72 1-0 635

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 12:03am
I took the wife to see it, she was impressed with how clean it was for an 84. This time I really looked up and down this thing. opened all the cupboards and looked up in the joints where the roof meets the sides, it all looked really good with no signs of water damage. I did however find some water damage below the window behind the sofa. It doesn't appear to be leaking presently but has definitely leaked in the past or it could have been caused by driving with that window open during rain. The owner swears he doesn't get any water in there now and it didn't have a moldy smell and appeared dry, and it's been raining a lot around here lately, so if it was still leaking I think it would have been wet. I'm sure if it was getting wet it would have an odor, and it didn't.

It was about 25 degrees out today and the 454 engine fired right up. it runs and sounds great.

It's built on the Chevy P30 chassis and has a 3 speed Turbo 400 transmission.

GVWR= 14,500 LB

GAWR
F= 5,000 LB
R= 9,840 LB

No mention of towing capacity. I know the GAWR is the Gross Axel Weight, but not sure how to interpret that into how much it is capable of safely pulling. it definitely has four wheel disk brakes.

I'm hoping Eric and some others can chime in about the transmission and weights. Do you think this will safely pull my boat? If it doesn't it wouldn't be a deal breaker but I think it would be nice to be able to do it if I wanted or needed to.

I talked to Seth and he says he doesn't have any trouble pulling his boat with his RV which seems similar to this one except this one is carburated and not FI, but my boat and trailer is a bit heavier yet I have a tandem axle and he has a single axle, it would probably be less tongue weight. Seth is pulling his through mountains which I would probably never encounter on our excursions.



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Posted By: critter
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 12:31am
I cannot say what that motorhome will tow but I can tell you that my
MH is a 28' 93 Coachman C-Class with a 460. It is on an E350 chassis.
I have pulled my 80 SN from NC to Green Lake and to Astor FL and pull my 3800lb 24' SeaRay Laguna with twin 200hp Mercs to and from the Coast of NC every year. When pulling my 80SN over the NC mountians, I do take it out of OD but it pulls the mountians with no problems.   
As Seth mentioned, I never know the 80 SN is back there.
Now I do know that the SeaRay is back there but only because I can see it in the mirrors. Trailer has Electic brakes and I can stop the rig with no problems or effort.
I see no problem with that unit pulling your boat anywhere you want to go.

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Posted By: KFD14
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 1:00am
Randy,

Great to talk to you today. I hope I provided some help. Here are a couple of links I've used in the past. The Henderson site is really good and explains common problems related to MHs and specifically the P30 chassis. The other link contains a P30 Chassis manual, not sure of the year referenced but I'd guess there is a lot of similarities through out the model years.

http://www.hendersonslineup.com/education/

http://www.bdub.net/manuals/P30/index.html

The other thing I have done a lot of is looking at motorhomes for sale on the internet. Gives you a good feel for what is out there and what you should be getting for the money you are looking to spend.

I don't mean to scare you away from the P30 chassis, mine is working great, just wanted to help you be informed.

Good luck, Seth

PS: here is one site worth a visit, will teach you everything you ever wanted to know about 12volt electrical systems.

http://www.marxrv.com/12volt/12volt.htm



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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 10:34am
you could pull your boat with that trans and then hook it to a stump and pull that along with it, very stoudt transmission, some bolt a gear vender on the back of it to get 6 speeds, it splits the shifts because the 400 doesnt have overdrive, its predecessor is the 700r4 and then the 4l60e, which both have OD and then the 4l80e

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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 11:33am
Now for the most important question, you are gonna put a wrap on it right? Maybe the nautique logo with some tribal markings around it, you know something that will match your armband tattoo?

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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 11:53am
I know this has an overhead sleeper just try to visual.

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 11:54am
Originally posted by Randy_in_Ohio Randy_in_Ohio wrote:


my boat and trailer is a bit heavier yet I have a tandem axle and he has a single axle, it would probably be less tongue weight.

FYI, proper tongue weight is a function of trailer weight (min 10%) regardless of whether its a single or tandem axle. Ive towed both styles with insufficient tongue weight... SCARY!!!

You may need to calculate the tow rating yourself based off the GVWR.

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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 12:01pm
Randy,
While I find it amazing that Alan can back his boat down any ramp with the Bounder, I would think the biggest PITA would be launching and retreiving with that gigantic pig... Then you also don't have another vehicle to get around when needed....

I would approach travel and boating the same way you are if I didn't have a place on a lake. In my opinion, if keeping your family's interest in boating alive and well, means the cost and headache of another motorized vehicle (and you can swing it financially), then you jump on it and never look back...

I agree though, I think this is way to big of a rig to start with. There are some really nice class C machines out there that would be way easier to deal with, park, launch boats etc...

Don't forget to leave out the welcome mat.. Best of Luck Randy..

Moj'

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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 12:13pm


The engine and trans is not the limiting factor with towing, the p30 is only rated at 3500#. It will pull it but you may not be legal, Randy your current trailer has 4 wheel disc brakes doesn't it? The rig will stop better with the boat behind than without.

I spent a lot of money on the front end of my P30 to get it drive without sawing on the wheel all day long, Bilstein shocks and steering stabilizer, IDP sway bar and it still is a handful in the wind but much better than stock. It actually drives better with the boat behind it, the trailer seems to keep it straight. Our Bounder has basement storage and is taller than that rig so maybe that has a bit to do with the handling but you should drive it and make sure you know what you're getting into.

10mpg has to be a bit of a stretch even with OD but on a 454 with a T400 there's no way you will ever even see 8mpg. I have a Banks Power pack on mine which was supposed to give me 8 and even driving with an egg under my foot I still don't see it.

Eric, I always wanted to add a gear vendors to ours but could never justify the price, they are a little salty.

Not trying to talk you out of it Randy just a little reality. Our 90 Bounder is still getting us where we want to go and we have had some great trips in it. We've launched our boat with it dozens of times without issue. The family memories will last forever, I think it's a practical way to add to your boating weekends if you can use it as a home base and not your main transportation..



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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 4:10pm
that they are

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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 6:17pm
Sorry I missed this earlier Randy. I know we talked a bit up at GL and glad to hear you're seriously considering it. Before buying our small Class C last March, I'd been thru owning a large pull behind and then the rentals as well, and just from my experience you would enjoy the heck out of the MH. Laurie and I were out to get the smallest rig with adequate towing capacity that could find because of some of the indirect reasons already stated. Here are a few thoughts based on this. You went in ours, and at just 23' it can get cramped for a family of five. For road trips no problem, as the 5 of us and 2 dogs had an easy time traveling the 800 miles up with Alan's new boat in tow. But we wanted the smallest one, not just for price, but for convenience of parking and maneuvering about, and also so that Laurie could drive it with confidence (I gotta sleep sometime). And we've driven the wheels off ours so far, racking up 20K miles since March, and we've enjoyed every minute. Unfortunately, the shorter and even lighter units don't save as much on fuel as I'd hoped they would, as it's the hole in the air you're punching that kills your mileage. And with that in mind, the large pull behind you mentioned would drag your 'Yota mileage down below 10mph. We're on a E350 chassic like Critter, but with the small V-10, and pulling a boat like yours, and not running over 65, the best you'll muster is maybe 8.5mpg. Without a boat, I've seen a best of right at 10mph, and that was only running +/-60mph. As for the size, I can park in most parking lots if I can back in and overhang the curb. You're gonna use it mainly to travel in and then sleep, so I'd try to keep it as small as you can stand, UNLESS, like that one you're looking at, the price is right and you don't plan on a bunch of long trips. You just can't get beat up for $5K. A lot of fun for the money.

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 6:45pm
Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

Now for the most important question, you are gonna put a wrap on it right? Maybe the nautique logo with some tribal markings around it, you know something that will match your armband tattoo?


Nice pic there Justin. I don't know about the tribal markings, and I don't have any tattoos.... but I was definitely thinking a big Nautique logo would be in order! I love the way Reid did the logo on his, very cool.

Give me a call when you have a minute, I want to ask you a question about that paint you ordered from DIM.   3-30.704-63-34 anytime after 4PM is good for me.

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 7:04pm
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I knew you guys would provide some great feedback to help me decide if this would be right for us.

I am really thinking this old Winnie may be the way to go. I don't plan on pulling the boat very often with it but, I would like to have the option if needed. There is a storage lot right up the road from the lake we frequent that I think I could store it at. this would eliminate a lot of the worries of pulling the boat a long distance with it. I will probably want to keep it somewhere besides my driveway anyway. since I don't think this one is going anywhere until spring time, I think I will continue to look around to see what is available. I like the 5k price tag, at that price I don't have to worry so much about beating it up and backing it into things. like I said, I have never drove anything this large before. If I do decide to get this one I am going to have to take it for a drive because I want to make sure the front end is pretty tight and the steering and brakes are good.

Their is no way my wife would ever consider driving this rig or a C class rig for that matter or even my truck pulling the boat or anything else. So the MH seems to be the only way to go if we want to be able to pick up and move around. I think for the price, if I don't like it, I should be able to recoup my money from it and go another route.

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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 7:07pm
Reid, I don't think either one of us got 6 mpg the day we tandemed down to lake Clinton LOl.

Reid was following our Motorhome in his Class C towing our boat. He kept pulling up real close behind us so I thought he wanted to go faster, again and again. We ran between 65-70 most of the way passing cars on a 2 lane road.

When we got to the lake he said "man you drive fast" I said "well you kept pushing so I kept going faster" and he laughed that he was only drafting me for better gas mileage. That was about the faster we ever made it the lake. LOL

That Triton in his class C hauls the mail because he made every pass I made and he was towing 4500#. We kept watching in the rear Camera thinking he'll never pull out but he stayed right with us.


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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by Randy_in_Ohio Randy_in_Ohio wrote:

Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

Now for the most important question, you are gonna put a wrap on it right? Maybe the nautique logo with some tribal markings around it, you know something that will match your armband tattoo?


Nice pic there Justin. I don't know about the tribal markings, and I don't have any tattoos.... but I was definitely thinking a big Nautique logo would be in order! I love the way Reid did the logo on his, very cool.

Give me a call when you have a minute, I want to ask you a question about that paint you ordered from DIM.   3-30.704-63-34 anytime after 4PM is good for me.


What paint?

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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

Reid, I don't think either one of us got 6 mpg the day we tandemed down to lake Clinton LOl.

Reid was following our Motorhome in his Class C towing our boat. He kept pulling up real close behind us so I thought he wanted to go faster, again and again. We ran between 65-70 most of the way passing cars on a 2 lane road.

When we got to the lake he said "man you drive fast" I said "well you kept pushing so I kept going faster" and he laughed that he was only drafting me for better gas mileage. That was about the faster we ever made it the lake. LOL

That Triton in his class C hauls the mail because he made every pass I made and he was towing 4500#. We kept watching in the rear Camera thinking he'll never pull out but he stayed right with us.


Yep Alan, and I think I got GPM's and not MPG's on that run, but it sure was fun! I've been reading the RV threads on increasing fuel mileage and found one guy who notes, "the only legitimate change I found that works for sure, is to leave two hours earlier". I'm trying to do it myself and we've now imposed a 60mph speed limit on the Nautique Toaster, as my brother-in-law refers to our little square RV as.      

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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 7:58pm
I wonder why there arent more diesels in those ford chassis class cs it would seem to make sense , its another 10 grand up front but wouldnt the savings come right back in say 5 yrs?

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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 9:17pm
Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

I wonder why there arent more diesels in those ford chassis class cs it would seem to make sense , its another 10 grand up front but wouldnt the savings come right back in say 5 yrs?


Good question Peter, as I've wondered myself. If there's a scenario that the diesel could be justified, I'd think this would be it. However, not having actually done the math yet, you typically have to run up a ton of miles on the diesel rig to offset the costs, and most of the Class C RVs rarely see 50k miles before the rest of the unit is worn or ragged out. But traditionally, the heavier the load, the greater percentage-wise the fuel savings. With the current $.70/gal delta between gas and diesel it makes for a harder sell. Also, because of the generator, you're upgrading 2 engines to diesel. Where I'd really like it the most is for the pulling power.

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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 9:41pm
That all makes sense. and as for pulling power i guess the v 10 or bb chev would do as much as you could ask for a motor ...advantage to the chev obviously

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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 12:11am
Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

That all makes sense. and as for pulling power i guess the v 10 or bb chev would do as much as you could ask for a motor ...advantage to the chev obviously


BB Chevy ? Didn't it go out some time ago? I think there's a reason that Ford pretty much owns the RV chassis world these days.......pulling advantage to the Ford obviously .   While the Chevys definitely make some HP, the Ford will yank out a stump, and ironically a skier, with the best of them.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 10:17am
paaaaleeeease

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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 11:21am
Thank you Eric...

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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 7:31pm
Whaaaaaaat? All i was saying is that GM's not making the 454, 496, 502, or any big block any longer for a new vehicle; are they? So by virtue of the V-10 being bigger and having more torque than the 6.0 or 6.2 GM, you're seeing the vast majority of new Class C's now going with Fords. And as most people know, the GM big block is/was actually larger than the V-10, (6.8 vs 7.4, 8.1, 8.2) so the GM BB certainly should have had more power than the standard V-10 in a Class C. Ford makes a 3V version V-10 for big Class A units but we're talking the standard for a more apples to apples comparison on the Class C's. I don't think there are any GM chassis' being used for gas Class A's now.   And I can't imagine for even a second that you'd argue that a Ford won't pull a skier:)


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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 7:38pm
There are no GM chassis period. GM sold Workhorse several years ago and Workhorse looked like it was going to take over the market for class A's but they had some brake problems that still have not been overcome and fell flat on their face. Add the fact that there were very few authorized Workhorse services centers hurts too, a traveler in a Class A would rather be able to stop in at almost any Ford dealer for service where a Workhorse rig really has an issue with authorized service and warranty work. Ford has a lock on the class A market hands down.

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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 7:48pm
Randy
thats a deal..buy it and bring it here...you can triple the price..lol..
check this one on the local ebay..81 smaller than the one you are looking..asking price 49K...
http://vehiculo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-132258349-motorhome-winnebago-brave-americano-_JM - winnebago in argentina

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Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 8:10pm
Same here Kap the one that Randy is looking at would make at least $20K in Australia.

Randy it is so "old skool cool" I think you will need to get a older boat to make it a matching retro rig setup. I used to own a onsite motor home type setup on the water when the kids were growing up. The family memories will be worth 100 times that $5k asking price.

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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 11:27pm
reid you are right , its just us chevy fans reminiscing . I wish all boats steered on the left and jet boats would go faster with bb chevs but alas we have to rest on our laurels of olden day when most records in every facet of racing were set by chevs .................

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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 11:45pm
Darn it Peter, I knew it was only time before you threw that trump car. I'll concede for now and will continue to look to future, and present, as everyone from the press to the dragstrips knows the new Mustang OWNS the new Camaro. How boring would it be if there was no competition?

EDIT: Guys I apologize as I know this is a thread about RVs and Randy's hopefully pending purchase. The Redneck in Reid just got the best of me

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 11:50pm
it is kind of boring...



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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 1:06am
Originally posted by kapla kapla wrote:

Randy
thats a deal..buy it and bring it here...you can triple the price..lol..
check this one on the local ebay..81 smaller than the one you are looking..asking price 49K...
http://vehiculo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-132258349-motorhome-winnebago-brave-americano-_JM - winnebago in argentina


That is unbelievable Kap! I found out today the NADA retail price on this is actually only $1,750. Which got me thinking... Although I like the idea of being able to get in and drive this thing anywhere, I think we may be better off in a pull behind. That way I could set it up in a campground either on or real close to a lake and keep it ready to go. and during the summer Paula can take the kids there if she wants or get down there before me and get stuff set up. thinking more about the cost of insurance, gas, repairs.... and the thought of having to fix that floor. I could get a nice pull behind with more room for under 10k. I have time to think about this. Your guys input has been really helpful.



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Posted By: must_dash
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 4:45am
Not being in the US, what's the difference between a Class A and a Class C motorhome?

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Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 10:25am
If you really want a trailer and might consider a 5th wheel I have a 2009 32' bunk house For Sale. We went from a 35 MH to the 5er and now because of job changes never get to use it.


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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 10:36am
class A, are hot chicks, class c, are your normal trailer park chicks,
speaking of, must dash, lets see some of the locals

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 11:17am
Originally posted by harddock harddock wrote:

If you really want a trailer and might consider a 5th wheel I have a 2009 32' bunk house For Sale. We went from a 35 MH to the 5er and now because of job changes never get to use it.


Kevin, I looked into a 5th wheel. But when I looked into the hitch I kinda ruled it out. From what I gathered, because I do not have an 8ft bed, I would need a hitch that slides backward and then forward when turning. The one that was recommended was $1,800! That's when I ruled that option out, and it seems a lot of the 5th wheel floor plans while really nice, don't accommodate a lot of people. They also tend to be more pricy and I'm looking to test the waters without getting in too deep.

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 11:20am
Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

class A, are hot chicks, class c, are your normal trailer park chicks,
speaking of, must dash, lets see some of the locals


... and an old conversion van is a Brunstucky chick

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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 12:07pm
Whatever you get it has to be tall enough for me to sleep under right?

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

Whatever you get it has to be tall enough for me to sleep under right?


Absolutely Justin!



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Posted By: must_dash
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 1:28pm
So Eric let me get this right.
We tow our CCs behind a class A and anything else behind a class C? What do you tow behind a Brunstucky chick?

Here in Italy most campers are either coachbuilt chassis conversions or cab and chassis with a home build on. VWs van based campers are still popular and getting quite valuable, especially the 70's round front, split screens are really expensive. A friend just imported a bay front from California to Italy as it was cheaper.
A lot of the van based motorhomes are overloaded when build and have very little payload available and generally the tow weights are low.

European styling is something like.

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Obviously there are loads of older vans around that are starting to look a bit hillbilly.


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Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by Randy_in_Ohio Randy_in_Ohio wrote:



Kevin, I looked into a 5th wheel. But when I looked into the hitch I kinda ruled it out. From what I gathered, because I do not have an 8ft bed, I would need a hitch that slides backward and then forward when turning. The one that was recommended was $1,800! That's when I ruled that option out, and it seems a lot of the 5th wheel floor plans while really nice, don't accommodate a lot of people. They also tend to be more pricy and I'm looking to test the waters without getting in too deep.


Well your in luck because I'm throwing im a slider hitch. It also has a soft ride system and front stbilozers for when its off the truck.
The layout is a room over the truck with a couch, with fold down bunk above and at a 90 are two more bunks. this room can be closed off from the rest. The kitchette and couch in LR can be made into beds and there is a queen bed in the bedroom, This baby can hold some guests.

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-14-2011 at 10:32pm
I just sent you an email Kevin



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Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 10:24am
I replied back but my 5th whell is maybe more than you want to spend. It is a 2009

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Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 10:35am
Darn, I could've hooked u up with our 2006 pull behind toy hauler. I practically gave it away. (see photos from 2007 GL). But the buddy I sold it too bought it to re-sale. If you're interested Randy, just let me know. 30' with 5 separate beds, 4 being doubles, and the Tundra can pull it.

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 12:21pm
Kevin,

I got your email. That's a really nice 5th wheel, but I think that it's a little more than what I want to get into to start off with. I think I would rather find something that's under 10k. I don't want anything too nice cause the kids will just tear it up anyway I still keep thinking of the benefits of a MH but I like the idea of getting something bigger that will sleep more people. We are going to go look at some used ones this weekend.

The Tundra has a towing capacity of 10,600 LB and a GVCW of 16,000 LB So I should be able to pull just about anything in the 35' and smaller range. I talked to a guy at the RV dealership we went to that was hooking up a 35' Keystone Sprinter similar to the new one I was looking at, about 9,500 LB, to his Tundra. He was from PA and said that he had a 3/4 ton van that he could pull with but he used his Tundra because it pulled it better than the 3/4 ton!



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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 1:11pm
Randy,
So you plan on now having two vehicles, towing both the trailer and the boat??? Sounds like a PITA, or maybe you're planning it that way so your wife and kids are in one car and you in the other (taking that quiet drive to the lake with your favorite White Snake CD) !!!!! haha

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 1:18pm
Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

So you plan on now having two vehicles, towing both the trailer and the boat??? Sounds like a PITA

Try and keep up Moj!

Originally posted by Randy_in_Ohio Randy_in_Ohio wrote:

Although I like the idea of being able to get in and drive this thing anywhere, I think we may be better off in a pull behind. That way I could set it up in a campground either on or real close to a lake and keep it ready to go. and during the summer Paula can take the kids there if she wants or get down there before me and get stuff set up. thinking more about the cost of insurance, gas, repairs.... and the thought of having to fix that floor. I could get a nice pull behind with more room for under 10k.


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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 2:04pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

So you plan on now having two vehicles, towing both the trailer and the boat??? Sounds like a PITA

Try and keep up Moj!

Originally posted by Randy_in_Ohio Randy_in_Ohio wrote:

Although I like the idea of being able to get in and drive this thing anywhere, I think we may be better off in a pull behind. That way I could set it up in a campground either on or real close to a lake and keep it ready to go. and during the summer Paula can take the kids there if she wants or get down there before me and get stuff set up. thinking more about the cost of insurance, gas, repairs.... and the thought of having to fix that floor. I could get a nice pull behind with more room for under 10k.


One of the first posts I believe Tim was to come to Green lake this summer in an RV. This is where they got the idea of buying a motorhome instead of tent camping... While I feel the trailer is definitely more economical, the problem he'll have is once they want to go to a different lake. Now you have a problem on your hands of towing the boat and the camper... Well unless your Todd and Rene and they just tow everything all at once hahaha... Come on Tim, keep up here   

Randy, you're driving down the middle of the road, veering from side to side again hahaha. Don't crash the truck here... !!! If you want the best of both worlds 1) getting off the ground and away from those bears!! and 2) to be able to enjoy multiple lakes with minimal hassle during the summer, you'd be better off looking for a smaller, Class C RV, that even your wife could drive, easy to park or launch the boat, store, fix etc etc.. Sure it's not bigger than the house you were looking at, but it's mobile, better than a tent and easy to pull the boat around..... Just my 2 cents..

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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 2:12pm
http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/rvs/2731265681.html - Randy did you see this one?

He probably would take 5. Its fuel injected too looks pretty clean. I know you are thinking trailer but thought that could be a decent deal.

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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 2:14pm
http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/rvs/2748989275.html - cheaper than a hotel

almost

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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 2:16pm
http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/rvs/2743507852.html - There is quite a bit on craigslist

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Posted By: IAughtNaut
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 3:13pm
Originally posted by must_dash must_dash wrote:

What do you tow behind a Brunstucky chick?

Broken dreams and the high school football coach's kid. Go blue devils!

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

1) getting off the ground and away from those bears!! and 2) to be able to enjoy multiple lakes with minimal hassle during the summer, you'd be better off looking for a smaller, Class C RV, that even your wife could drive, easy to park or launch the boat, store, fix etc etc.. Sure it's not bigger than the house you were looking at, but it's mobile, better than a tent and easy to pull the boat around..... Just my 2 cents..

Moj'


I LMAO when I read that about the bears Dave! ...and then LMAO again when you suggested "Class C RV, that even your wife could drive"!

Bears are definitely a concern of Paula's. That and the raccoons at Salt Fork which are damn near as big as a bear from all the free food they get. But seriously, some kid hit a black bear with his car last year in Marlboro Township which is only about 15 miles from us!



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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 3:50pm
Dave may be right though, maybe the best solution would be a class C MH. It would probably pull the boat nicely and be easier to launch with than A big class A... but it would be cramped with 3 kids and two dogs. But then again, Ashley is getting older... I'm going to try to look at some Class C's this weekend along with some trailers.

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 3:56pm
And this just popped up on CL!

http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/rvs/2747994956.html - '93 Fleetwood Tioga Class C

EDIT: I knew it was too good to be true... Flagged for removal

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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 4:00pm
Randy,
Where do you spend all your time while camping? In or out of the tent?? So it's a bit cramped... There's not a RV in the world that gives you the creature comforts of home... Who cares.. You get a fridge, crapper, shower and a place to sleep... But you can travel like that too !!!! And be mobile to enjoy different lakes... It's actually a drawback to having a summer home... I think if you park a trailer, you'll feel the same way...
There are thousands of nice, 25-28 foot Class C trailers out there that are affordable.. OK so Paula won't drive it.. But she sure would like traveling in it !!!! She can look for bears while sitting on the tolet, reaching over to the fridge for a nice cold drink hahahahaaa..

Moj'

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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 9:50pm
Randy .. the tent is for the kids and dogs .. an outside screen room for their living room and the mh for you

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Posted By: 76tique
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 10:51pm
Originally posted by must_dash must_dash wrote:

What do you tow behind a Brunstucky chick?


LOL. Had to post when I saw this comment. In my case, an '84 SN. Love our '91 Mark III Chevy aka Brunstucky chick. 180+k and the 5.7/700r4 is still running strong! 12mpg w/boat in tow. Slept in her at the lake probably 12x this year...



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Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 11:10pm
thats like a dream combination for me , i'd love a southern or western van like that   of course olive green   wait black like the rest of the fleet

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 11:28pm
Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

Randy .. the tent is for the kids and dogs .. an outside screen room for their living room and the mh for you


I was thinking the same thing.

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: December-15-2011 at 11:33pm
That's a nice looking van Tom! looks great with that SN behind it.



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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-16-2011 at 7:40am
like going on a cruise, bottem floor, the only time your inside them is to poop and sleep, come to think of it get one with a large bathroom. basically you really dont spend much time inside of them when you get to your destinantion, always out under the awning with your tiki lights

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Posted By: DrStevens
Date Posted: December-17-2011 at 12:34am
Perfect what do you get, 9 miles to the gallon and a honey dipper hole to empty, give me to a hotel, and I will try to leave the bed bugs there.


Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: March-30-2012 at 8:29pm
Well, after looking at RV's all winter I ended up purchasing the 1984 Winnebago Elandan. Once I drove it I was sold. It really isn't as hard to drive as I thought it would be, and it runs great. It seemed like the best deal for the $$ and will fit our needs. Heck if we can get a couple years use out of it I have it parked in the driveway now, but will probably end up storing in near the lake.

Before I pull the boat I want to get the rear frame extension reinforced. I've done some research and contacted Winnebago and they do not recommend exceeding 200Lb. tongue weight. My tongue weight is 330Lb. The problem is with the frame extension which is built onto the P30 frame to allow for the extra coach length. These two pieces of frame are simply welded together with about 4 inches of steel plate. I need to find someone to weld some steel tubing or "C" channel to the original frame forward of the extension, and attach a class V hitch to it. I don't plan on towing with it very often, but when I do, I want to make sure that the weight of the boat does not stress the frame to the point where it would bend or break.

The kids absolutely love this thing and can't wait to get it out on the road! We will probably take a short trip in the very near future to test it out.



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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-30-2012 at 9:41pm
So if your 350 lb girlfriend decides to nap in the back bad, your motorhome is going to snap in half?   you'll be just fine pulling your boat Randy

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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: March-30-2012 at 10:20pm
Lets see some pics!


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Posted By: john b
Date Posted: March-30-2012 at 10:24pm
With all this RV talk I just can't help myself. Every time I hear someone say RV this immediately comes to mind.

Clark:   So, when did you get the tenament on wheels?
Eddie:   Oh, that uh, that there's an RV. Yeah, yeah, I borrowed it off a buddy of mine. He took my house, I took the RV. It's a good looking vehicle, ain't it?
Clark:   Yeah, it looks so nice parked in the driveway.
Eddie:   Yeah, it sure does. But, don't you go falling in love with it now, because, we're taking it with us when we leave here next
month.
Eddie:   Don't forget the rubber sheets and gerbils.

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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: March-30-2012 at 10:31pm
Randy - congrats on the highway-compatible living room. Monday AMs just got harder for you!





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Posted By: john b
Date Posted: March-30-2012 at 10:55pm
Congrats! I hope you have many happy family weekends together in it.

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Posted By: DrStevens
Date Posted: March-30-2012 at 11:18pm
Pictures ? Of the 350 lbs girlfriend, no thanks not to hard to find.


Posted By: KFD14
Date Posted: March-31-2012 at 4:40am
Congrats Randy, like they say.....it didn't happen unless you can prove it with pictures :)

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-31-2012 at 9:09pm
Randy,
Congratulations Just don't tell you wife that a hungry Grizzly bear can rip right thought the side of one of those things!

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Posted By: john b
Date Posted: March-31-2012 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Randy,
Congratulations Just don't tell you wife that a hungry Grizzly bear can rip right thought the side of one of those things!

And believe me, they will do it to get away if I come home and find one inside my RV!

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-31-2012 at 9:43pm
Quote from Airstream forum:
"There was a thread about a year ago that talked about this. One person said that they saw a Griz rip right through an Airstream to get at some goodies."

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: April-01-2012 at 11:13am
buyers re-morse will kick in at the gas station on your first fill-up lol


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Posted By: IAughtNaut
Date Posted: April-01-2012 at 1:37pm
don't listen to them Randolph, your 350 lb lady love will be very happy in her new mobile apartment. Congrats man, although I really thought you would know better than to make an announcement like this without pictures...is this your first day?

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: April-02-2012 at 1:49pm
Pete - Lets keep quite about the bears around Paula...

Eric- I filled it up when I brought it home. 60gal main tank and a 30gal reserve tank. The solenoid for the switching of tanks is broken and the 30 gal tank is empty and hasn't been used in awhile, I doubt I will fix it. 60gal should be more than enough for where we are going with it.

Adam - Pics are on page 1.. I will get some updated ones once I finish cleaning it up a little.

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Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: April-02-2012 at 2:10pm
If you think you couldn't be happier the day you sell a boat, wait until you sell an RV. You'll be Giddy!!!

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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: April-02-2012 at 2:19pm
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Is this the one?! If so...PLEASE keep it original inside!!! She's a beauty

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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: April-04-2012 at 8:57pm
Yep. thats the one! I plan on keeping it as original as possible. except for the am/fm cassett player, which i already replaced. got to have tunes and my cassette tape collection is pretty limmited


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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: April-05-2012 at 11:15am
love that wall paper.

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