Opinions on this 85 2001
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Topic: Opinions on this 85 2001
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Subject: Opinions on this 85 2001
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 3:53pm
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Hey everyone,
I came across this on CList here in Phoenix. The guy sent me about 20 pictures of it and from what I can see, it seems pretty clean. I am looking to get some CCF opinions. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/2739782237.html Thanks, Dakota ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
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Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 3:55pm
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/2739782237.html
------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: dwcar
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 6:55pm
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Looks like a nice boat. Not a bad price. Take it for a test ride and offer him 4000.00 ------------- 83Ski |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 8:17pm
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Do you think 4,000 is reasonable?
Does the rear seat look normal to you? To me, the seating in the front looks like deluxe seating and the rear is some sort of fake bench. ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: December-10-2011 at 9:16pm
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Yes the rear removable seat cushion is quite normal.
The rear facing, not fully seated ring and finger would be the non-normallity. |
Posted By: dwcar
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 1:35am
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I know of a 84 that sold for 3000.00 that was in good shape. You never know. Start low and work it. ------------- 83Ski |
Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 12:57pm
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Dakota,
Welcome. That boat looks clean. The backwards ski pylon (easily fixed) is funny. Maybe you can point that out to the seller. However, beauty CAN be only skin-deep. To find out use the checklist http://www.nautiqueowner.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18605&PID=226517&title=new-guy-here - from this thread. I've cut-and-paste the important parts here. Do this BEFORE you buy. And of course, you need to give it a run on the water before buying. Kevin Pre-Purchase Checklist 1992 And Earlier Correct Craft Boats Most information for this article was taken from the PlanetNautique forums. Forum member M3Fan’s information in THIS THREAD is widely used here. If you’re considering the purchase of a Ski Nautique 2001 (Produced from 1982 – 1989), or another older Correct Craft, this article will give you some general information about things that you should check for before making your purchase. This article is not meant to include all items that should be checked during a used boat pre-purchase inspection. It is meant to point out possible trouble areas in older Correct Crafts. These checks should be performed along with any other necessary inspections when looking over a used boat. All 2001 series Correct Crafts used wood in their construction, which can deteriorate over time if not kept in check. Well-maintained boats can still be found showing no signs of problems related to the wood used in their construction, but it is always a good idea to check the items listed below if you’re considering a 2001, or another Correct Craft built before 1993. Correct Craft stopped using wood in their construction in 1993. The following steps should be completed when inspecting a Pre-1993 Correct Craft for purchase: * Open the engine cover, and you'll notice hex-head bolts, probably about 4 on each side, running parallel to the engine on the edge of the floor, on the edge of the engine compartment. These are lag bolts screwed right into the wooden stringers. Bring a socket wrench with you and try to tighten each one. They should still bite into the wood well. If they spin freely, the boat probably has some deterioration of the wood in the stringers. These bolts also continue to the back of the boat under a removable floor piece that covers the prop shaft. Spin those also. Engine mount bolts are also a good indicator, as these attach to wooden mounts as well. * Walk around on the floor and feel for soft spots. This isn't as big a deal as the stringers, but is still a big job to fix. * Often when you see a boat with a replaced engine, it's due to improper winterization. When I was shopping around, almost every early 90's SN I came upon in the north had a new engine or short block. * Drive the boat! The engine should idle smoothly and run hard up to 4400 rpm on the water. * Make sure the oil pan isn't too rusty- replacing this involves removing the engine from the boat. * Look in the bilge for fresh oil spots, as this could be a sign of leakage. * The transmission should shift smoothly, and transmission oil should be clean. The transmissions on these boats are fairly expensive to replace. * TALK to the seller. Have them describe parts of the boat and feel out their personality. This can tell you how well the boat was taken care of while they owned it. * The prop should spin smoothly with minor resistance when turned by hand. Position yourself directly behind the propeller, and spin it by hand. Check to be sure the shaft spins smoothly. Any deviation could indicate a bent shaft. * Electronic ignition is a good thing, although not offered from the factory on these boats. You may want to look for one that has been converted. ------------- Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow |
Posted By: cbr1000dude
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 1:59pm
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That looks like an exceptional condition boat, and the $6900 asking price reflects the owners belief that it is exceptional. I think you would love this boat on the water.They have a hot roddy exhaust and turn on a dime.
My only reservation about this deal is that you can get a newer CC, next generation 90's boat for this price. It's a slightly larger,roomier, more modern looking boat (especially the dash) that has a quiet exhaust system. So it depends on what you want, they're both great boats, just different. I restored a 1987 last summer that I gave to my daughter, and just finished a 1990, so this is from recent personal experience. |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 2:52pm
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She is a buyer.. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: P71_CrownVic
Date Posted: December-11-2011 at 3:32pm
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Weigh the boat. Weigh it, weigh, it, weigh it.
That was the only thing that convinced me my boat was a good one in terms of saturated foam. Otherwise, do your due diligence. Drive it, examine the trailer, look for leaks, etc. Be thorough. Beauty can really be only skin deep with these boats... ------------- |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 1:29am
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Thanks for everyone's help.
What is the deal with the ski pylon being the wrong way? Would this indicate anything? I am looking for a 2001 SN because I want to wakeboard with this boat and I really love the look of this boat. I'm sure some of you would not be happy with the plans I have for the boat  .
Thanks for the write up on what to check. I am going to take this check list with me when I look at the boat. I spoke with the owner and he seemed very kind. I asked him if I could tow it to a weigh station and check the wait for the water logged foam and if I can take it to the lake and drive it around. He was fine with both. What is the weight range I should I be looking for? Thanks for everyone's help. ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 1:32am
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I have some more pictures of this boat if you would like to see anything else. ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 10:29am
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Nice one. The ring and finger are bacards cuse someone slipped a fly high pole over the pylon - I bet?
If I was looking for another 2001 I'd be all over it. ------------- - waterdog - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3896&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - 78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 11:27am
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I think the dry weight on that boat would be around 2300 pounds. Plus the trailer (900-1000) and account for any fuel in the tank ( I would say 250 for a full tank). So I would say you are looking around 3500lbs I would think if it was over 3600 it probably has some wet foam. Anyone else feel free to correct if I am off on any numbers. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 11:31am
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For somebody wakeboarding the 2001 is the only option in this price range, the newer 90's are not what you are looking for.
If it drives well is in good condition and not full of water then its the perfect boat for you. I bought one in the UK a few months back and could not be happier with the drive and wake, even unweighted its great with a really nice shape and will get better and better with some extra weight. There is always room for negotiations on the price if the seller actually want's to shift it. Good luck ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 12:55pm
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Check out http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23570&KW=&title=weight-of-my-84-sn-2001 - this thread.
I weighed my 1984 SN2001 to be 2765 lbs. The brochure says 2400 lbs. And in http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22083&PN=2&title=1984-ski-nautique-project - this thread you will see how much wet foam and wood I removed. After going through this, I would say a lot of my extra weight was due to saturated foam and wood. My stringers are full of water, some of the foam was absolutely dripping, and the floor had some standing water. However, 365 lbs of water would be 43 gallons. I certainly didn't have 43 gallons of extra water in there. I would say more like 8 or 9. ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 1:56pm
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Isn't 2350/2400lbs the dry weight for a 2001? and by dry I mean with no fuel and no battery ? Then there is the extra for the trailer. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: P71_CrownVic
Date Posted: December-12-2011 at 10:40pm
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2500 pounds is the quoted dry weight a 1986 2001.
It's unclear whether that includes any deluxe seating or not...that's important. FWIW, here are the figures I had when I weighed my boat back in August. I did NOT take into account the stereo, amp, and 4 speakers OR the deluxe seating. That's probably another 150 pounds or so:
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So, today I had the boat + trailer and just the trailer weighed.
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 12:24am
So minus 136 pounds for the stereo etc that puts you right at 2500 dry. So I guess 3700 would be a good benchmark depending on the amount of fuel in the tank. I am guessing 167 lbs of fuel would be somewhere around 2/3 of a tank? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: P71_CrownVic
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 1:42am
Yeah...somewhere around that. If I recall correctly, the fuel gauge was between 3/4 and full...around 27 gallons or so. I guessed on ALL of the weights I listed. But suffice to say, I was very happy to learn that my boat was right where it should be. It was then I was comfortable buying it. ------------- |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 2:59am
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I will let everyone know how it goes after I meet him on saturday ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: December-13-2011 at 11:17am
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it seems like an awful lot of rounding up or down and factoring guess work. it seems like it wouldnt be hard to wrongly figure the boat to be holding 8 gal of water , or just as easily miss 8 gal of water... why not just look at the boat and its condition like you would a used car. look at the care it seemed to be given , the cracking or lack of . it not that hard to tell a boat that isnt original or is abused . ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: December-30-2011 at 2:00am
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Update, I saw this boat in person and it was amazing.
The hull has no cracking, a few small scratches, and some scratching where it meets the bunks and that is it. The interior needs to reupholster the observer seat and carpet. I felt the entire floor and it was hard. I hit the stringers with my flashlight and they sounded solid. I lifted up the back section of the floor and there were no cracks around the exhaust. The entire bilge area was clean as could be. I offered him 5500 and he said he wouldn't go lower than 6500 hundred. I think I am going to take it for a test drive on Sunday or monday and see if he will take 6000. I did notice the trailer had a good amount of rust on the leaf springs. Is there any problem with that? More updates to follow ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-30-2011 at 2:15am
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No big deal on the springs,they aren't painted very good,they flex and rub together and you submerge them.Eventually you have to replace them anyway. Check the titles on both,wave 6 big ones under his nose,good luck and have fun! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: December-31-2011 at 5:52pm
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I am going to drive it today at the lake. We agreed on a price of 6700 dollars.
I get the boat, his extended pylon, the bimini top for the pylon, and a few life jackets. I will let you all know how the drive goes. I am excited to join the club!!!!!! ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: DrStevens
Date Posted: December-31-2011 at 7:09pm
| Congratulations, a nice New Years gift if all goes well. |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 12:09am
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We test drove the boat today. It ran pretty good.
There were a couple of things I was concerned about. We managed to get the engine temp up to 220 degrees when it was idling after about 15 to 20 minutes at 4,000 rpm. He said the impeller had not been changed in 4 or 5 years. Also, when we clicked the the blower and or the lights the voltage dropped about 1-2 volts. They guy said it had not been in the lake since march, I was pretty sketched out running that thing on old gas but it seemed fine. I was about to go about 42 mph although the water was rough. Anyone have any clue what the engine temp thing could be or the voltage drop? ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: davidg
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 1:34am
| The temp may be a little low. I normally run at 240 when fully warmed up. You may just need a new thermostat. Also, did you actually measure the voltage drop, or just see the volt meter drop when you turned the switches on? That seems normal. Lastly, 42 mph seems about right, depending on the prop. It sounds like a pretty healthy boat that may just need some fresh gas, new thermostat, and tune. Based on your description of it, and the pictures, I would go for it. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 2:20am
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Thats not right Dave,water boils at 212,and these are open systems.A closed system like your car has the coolant under pressure raising the boiling temp.It should run at what the thermostat is,160 is for fuel injection,140 for carb.
Get her home change all the fluids,pull the raw water pump change the impeller and go from there.An infrared thermometer like http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?keyword=Infrared+Thermometer - these are nice to trouble shoot with. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 2:25am
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[QUOTE=00cls1camaross]
Also, when we clicked the the blower and or the lights the voltage dropped about 1-2 volts. QUOTE] I think this is a symptom of the main feed wire to the dash. I believe it's on the small size and as it ages the resistance goes up.The cure is a new larger size wire.Try a search ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: davidg
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 2:49am
Gary...you're right. Don't know why I was thinking 240. I have had a bad case of cabin fever the past few weeks you know . Its been too long since I have had a run down the Fox  .
Now that you have jogged my memory, I do remember my thermostat usually runs right at 160. It may go above that (170-180) after I stop and sit after a hard run, but usually doesn't stay there long. I usually replace my impeller every year, but, I didn't this year. I pulled the water pump out to work on it over the winter, and the impeller is pretty well beat up. I don't think it would go another season. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 12:50pm
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Gary's right- Dave, you must be thinking of 140, not 240.
Anything above 200 and I shut the engine down for fear of damage. ------------- |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 1:48pm
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Tim - I would think that by 240F the engine would shut itself down, from pistons seizing!
They must have the wrong range sensor installed. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 2:10pm
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Or perhaps more simply the engine did reach 220. ------------- |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 6:33pm
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I doubt an engine would seize at 240 degrees. Automotive GM engines run at 210. I am planning on buy thing this boat next weekend. What fluids are there besides trans and motor? Does anyone have a how to manual about how to change oil/trans fluid?
Thanks everyone ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 7:06pm
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I use a Turkey Baster to pull the Trans Fluid from the Trans. There is not a drain on the trans as such. Use Dexron II Trans Fluid to refill. Mine takes 2/3's of a quart to fill.
To change the Oil, you must remove the plug in the bottom of the boat. Have the motor hot so the oil moves freely. My boat has a rubber hose that is about 24" long with a bolt and hose clamp used as a plug. This hose attached one end to the bottom of the oil pan. I then run the hose out of the bottom of the boat's plug hole into a bucket. Gravity will drain the oil out of the engine. Those without the hose are dropping the oil into the bilge and letting it go out of the plug hole. Also, you can use a pump to pump the oil out of the top of the engine. When you order an impeler for the water pump, please use a OEM impeller. Parts can be ordered from My Correct Craft Parts.com, or Discount Inboard Marine ( AKA Skidim). Also, use lube with Zink for the flat tappet cam. I use Valvoline ZR1 Racing 20-50 Oil. Shell also makes a Rotella that will work. Do not use a Fram Oil Filter or you will get a hard time from this site. Just trust me on the Fram deal. I hope this helps, Donald |
Posted By: davidg
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 9:54pm
I know that Fram Filters get a bad rap on this site, but, what is wrong with them? Don't they have to make as good as filter as anybody else out there to compete in the marketplace? I have used them before with no issues, nor have I heard of engines blowing up when they use a Fram filter. Is this urban legend or is there really something to it? |
Posted By: 00cls1camaross
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 10:22pm
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I have used the Fram extended guard on my truck and car and everything was fine.
I generally buy the Napa Gold filters because they are made by wix. Wix has a great reputation for making top notch filers. I doubt it really matters. ------------- 2002 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 33 x 12.50s, BBK, Cranked 2000 Camaro SS Cam, Slicks, Boltons, Stall 1985 Ski Nautique MT1, Board Rack, ACME 542 Future:Stereo, Wrap, Girls |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 10:27pm
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There was an internal memo posted on the net, from someone that worked at Fram, that said that as long as they don't leak externally, they are considered a good filter.
The filter paper on a Fram is not even glued at the seam, it is just folded over. They also use cardboard at the end of the media. Google 'Bob the oil guy' to read all about filters. I recently cut apart a Motorcraft filter & thought it was well built internally. Wix & NAPA are even better quality. The price difference between a bad filter & a good one is only a couple bucks. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-02-2012 at 10:39pm
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I had a '67 Camaro, I used nothing but AC filters.
But now with a 351 and two 5.0 HO nothing but Motorcraft FL-1A |