86 barefoot floor replacement
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Printed Date: November-16-2024 at 7:37am
Topic: 86 barefoot floor replacement
Posted By: shane krausser
Subject: 86 barefoot floor replacement
Date Posted: January-03-2012 at 2:32pm
So here we are setting into a slight winter in Florida. After enjoying some summer boarding i am ready to go demolition on this floor. I have read up on quite a few threads and have seen some outstanding work done as seen in some photos. As i am very familiar with carpentry and mechanically inclined it never hurts to hear whats been done and proven. I am going all composite, most likely a high density foam composite with the floor so no talking wood for me!! Any feedback is nice, i did see some hull stands on a few threads and i was curious as to when i should use them with the boat being worked upon on the trailer. Happy new year!  ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-03-2012 at 3:15pm
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Welcome and good luck! Any pics?
The general consensus is that the boat should be up on stands when the stringers come out. You can tell that your weight will bow the hull in spots so the assumption is the trailer bunk could deform it inward. I dont think it is necessary until they come out but wouldnt hurt to do that first if you arent planning on moving it. Good idea on the composite, I would have if the budget woudl have allowed. What kind of composite? not all kinds are suitable. A few on this site have used coosa. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: January-03-2012 at 5:10pm
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Welcome here on CCF!
Lots of info to be found here... If you wanna do compsite style, I too would recommend coosa. Good luck! And we do love pictures here 
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Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 1:54am
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Thank you for the stand advice, a bit of a way to get there as i just cut out most of the floor and still in the process of getting the unbelievable amount of foam out.. i have cut the floor abo type ut 3 inches from the actually gunwells and not exactly sure what the best saw to use to cut the fiberglassed in floor smooth off.. any advice on pulling the motor as well...either rent a forklift or built a swing set type over hang and hoist it out...not sure what composite yet, took a few pics and will do my best to load! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 9:54am
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I suggest a engine hoist to pull the engine. They aren't that expensive and will come in handy with other projects. It will sve you the hasle of trying to build something yourself.
Most here have found a 4" angle grinder with a HF inexpensive diamond blade is great for cutting close to glass you don't want to cut. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 11:54am
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I agree with pete on the diamond blade, or if you have a rotozip they make a little 3 inch circular saw blade that works well. That is nice too because its variable speed.
I lifted my engine off a beam in my garage, I have seen people do it with a cherry picker but that is tight. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 12:15pm
I actually have used an angle grinder to cut out the non-existing part of the floor so far, they are a bit scary getting close with just because they like to jump a bit, i did notice after pulling the foam out from underneath that lip of floor that is still attached that there is a bit of an ofset so it makes me feel a lilttle better about not going through the floor. I dont think there is any possible way a engine hoist would even considerably be tall even being im on the trailer and shes sitting about 6 feet in the air at the top of the motor, i would need atleast 12 feet to hoist her 1200 pound fat A** out!!! I thought of the beam but i dont have one and i cant even get in my garage with all the stuff!  ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 12:20pm
You'd need a tall ceiling in your garage to get the engine out of a BFN and over the gunnel. You may want to get creative- search for a thread called "red neck engine hoist" for ideas. Heres what we came up with:
A 4.5" angle grinder with a diamond blade (cutting) and the most aggressive flap discs you can find (grinding) will be both your best friend, and worst enemy on this project! A few of us have rebuilt these boats a few different ways. BuffaloBFN went the classic wood+foam route, as did The Grinch. Hasbeenskier went the composite route, using poly resin and some sort of foam cored material. We went epoxy and coosa on ours. There are a bunch of good threads, so do a bunch of searching and reading. I would highly recommend taking a lot of pictures and measurements before you get very far with the disassembly... figuring out where everything needs to go back together when starting with a clean slate can be challenging. Engine location (height and position in the boat) is especially important... I highly recommend taking measurements from multiple points, as one (or more) will inevitably change or move! We also chose to leave the lip of the floor in place up until we got the stringers back in. It gave us a good place to rest the level and do a quick sanity check that things were getting put back together properly. ------------- |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 12:50pm
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maybe it would make sense for you to take the wheels off the trailer and drop the boat down. I have seen people do this, you might be able to get it with a cherry picker then. "MIGHT" ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 1:38pm
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+1 on leaving the lip around the edge, and rephrasing something Tim said-try to have 2 or 3 hard points to measure back to. He's right; some will disappear.
The picker will work but it's a pain. You'll have to pull the fender and wheels, drop the side, and it's still close. You'd also have to pull the near exhaust manifold so it doesn't hit the boom. What's that new saw on TV? It looks like it might be the ticket for this except that it's electric. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 8:01pm
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TRbenj, thanks for the photo, i have seen that picture on there which gave me that idea in my head about that type of hoist system, i am going to figure something out, do not believe im gonna go threw all the trouble talking the wheels off of my tandem trailer and chance it! I will need to take a lot of mearsure and i have taken some pics with my phone and camera and cant seem to even upload any on here cause its telling me they are to big and need to be resized..any help would be good with that. ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-04-2012 at 8:20pm
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My local hardware store rents all sorts of tools, a chainfall being one of them. Find a big tree and go for it. ------------- |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 12:23pm
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Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 12:25pm
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Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 12:25pm
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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 1:35pm
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not too bad. To say that is not original, is an understatement!! What the heck is on that dash? Is that woodgrain? and a GPS?? You should put a cadillac emblem on that boat, that is luxury! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 2:05pm
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Haha lmao!! Yes that is woodgrain and it is smartcraft vessel view with gps, everything is computerized like a Cadillac! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 2:13pm
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wow, I feel inadequate. Thats gonna be a luxurious model when you are done. Maybe you should put in a stained teak floor and some heated seats. Take this thing to the next level! Did you win pimp my boat or something! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Ranger
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 3:12pm
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I used a cherry picker and it was a pain. I would rent a fork lift or tractor if I was to do it again.
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Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 3:19pm
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I cut glass with a pnumatic die grinder with a cutoff wheel, with a garden hose nozzle zip tied to it and aimed at the disk, small stream.
A little spray, but no dust. Just shop vac up the slurry afterward. I think its the way to go. Wear ppe of course ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 3:30pm
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Thanks, ive been using the angle with the diamond, have all of the floor out besides where the fuel tank is, got most of that foam out last night, jeff im thinin a fork lift or tractor to, dont have any big trees or time to built a redneck hoist!! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:47pm
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Shane
I test drove that boat last year in Mt Dora. It has a monster engine in it. If my memory serves me right, it's a left hand rotation. When I backed away from the launch, it went the wrong way. The dash pod is sweet. It's not a GPS though, it's the computer that controls the engine. I think that engine is only a few years old. We never got to run it through it's paces because it overheated. They guy later told me the pickup screen was clogged. For the short time it ran, you could tell it had some balls. Sounded great. Did you find a trailer for it? ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:58pm
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BTW
I was hoping whoever bought it would be on this site. I thought my engine looks huge, and so do most people who see it. That engine, and the added cooling system and other items, barely fit in the box (in fact doesn't it have a doghouse riser?) I'd like to know how it runs at top end. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 8:22pm
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Such a small world! Thats my boat, it is left hand. Yes your right it has GPS speed not nav. She runs great had a lot of trouble getting an acme on. Ive had her 57 with a 4 blade but i have bill at acme. Going to be making a custom prop.enjoyed it for the summer just wanting to do the last thing, the floor.lol, i did by a trailer from the original owner all aluminum tandum which is nice. ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 8:24pm
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And yes there is a riser on the dog house. ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 9:19pm
So do you foot? Or do you just like big motors and speed.  ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 9:24pm
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said something about boarding in the first post
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Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 9:48pm
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I do not foot....yet! Will be getting to that over summer hopefully. We do wakeboard though. I do like speed every now and then. Nice to have the leisure though. What about yourself?? ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 9:48pm
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Did you end up getting a boat?? ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 11:02pm
This is a good method,but due to the fact the left hand tree is dead it has a limited life span.It would take a lot of cpes to maintain it. The next best is to use a live tree. I think you should rent something,by the time you fix the boat,repair the engine and pay the medical bills you'll be ahead.
We never had to but we thought if we needed to change the engine on this one that we would just use the front davit  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 10:19am
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Shane,
There is a lot of footers on here  me included.
I have an 86 Barefoot Nautique also. Tullfooter has an 85 BFN. Happy New Year to you also and welcome to the site. Steve ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 10:45am
I've had my '85 for about 4 years. When I looked at yours, I was looking to find something with more speed (looks like your boat would have fit that bill). I happen to be in the Orlando area for a funeral, so I figured I would check the boat out. With the overheating problem and the lack of a trailer, I figured it to be too much headache for me at the time. I'm also not one to get into a floor/stringer project. (I've since bought a pole barn) Take a lot of photos; the guys (and gals) on this site love photos. Don't hesitate to ask questions. I don't think there's a better source of info on CC boats. (just don't bring up politics or religion, ie. "Has anyone seen Eric?")
BTW, click on my avatar. That's what you need to pull your engine. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
shane krausser wrote:Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 11:49am
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Well i am proud to be the owner of a barefoot! You both seem to have beautiful barefoots! I happen to run across my boat for the second time not to long before i boat it. I saw it on a forum of some sort about a year later and could remember it vividly of coarse with the merc 496. It truely is more motor than you could ever need in a ski boat. Im not certain but i believe when you say "avatar" you are referring to your profile picture>>??? I think that is just a bit over my budget!!
They rebuild just about the entire boat but the floor, what a surprise! Something i knew that needed to be done and its gonna be better than it ever was from the start when i am finished!!( i hope!!) I do appreciate all of your inputs as i may not be able to refer back to each and everyone of your comments. Shane ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 12:31pm
  http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff468/shane_krausser/DSC00539.jpgGuys here is where i am since last night. Have just about all the foam out except a lilttle under the bow and just removed the fuel tank last night that out later. ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 12:33pm
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Posted By: 86BFN
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 2:52pm
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Thanks for the great pictures. keep them coming. If you could size them down just a bit it would help.
That is a sweet looking boat! 
Steve ------------- 👣 Steve http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4057&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1986" rel="nofollow - 86 Barefoot Nautique 89 Martinique Former Owner: 93 Hydrodyne 350 MAG |
Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 5:46pm
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Do I really have to police this thread for Pete? Where's the bat symbol?
haha thought the dash was graphic then I saw that M word motor in it... Gonna be awesome when you're done, thanks for sharing the pics! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold) http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 5:49pm
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well its too late for original now so you might as well go all the way! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 5:51pm
What, you don't think the airguides will fit back in that GPS hole? Couldn't agree more! I'd love a BFN with our GT40 motor in it. Wouldn't something like that scream? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold) http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 6:05pm
It would make for a pretty decent ski boat, but I wouldnt call it a screamer. It would probably push an earlier BFN to the 48-50mph range, similar to the 330hp 454. If you want to go fast, start with big cubes and then make the engine breathe! ------------- |
Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 6:06pm
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I don't have cubic dollars :( ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold) http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-09-2012 at 1:03pm
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Shes up and out! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-09-2012 at 1:07pm
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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-09-2012 at 1:57pm
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eww, dirty.
Thats a fancy engine hoist! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-09-2012 at 2:19pm
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Shane, I got your email, but cannot reply directly since your email is set to "private". You might want to update that so people can get in touch with you. Feel free to email me directly if you want: TRBenj@gmail.com
I didnt consider any other alternatives to the Coosa when it came time for our BFN build. JoeinNY had already done all of the leg work in identifying it as the "go-to" material. Ive since done more reading out of curiosity and still think its the way to go. The only real downsides to using it were the cost (~$250 per 4x8 sheet), and the need to pre-glass or laminate everything together prior to installation. For a boat I plan to keep forever, its definitely the way to go. I contacted Coosa directly and identified a distributor that was semi-local to me on the last go around. Since then, CompositesOne has become a distributor, and I would probably use them next time. They also carry Airex PXC (formerly known as Penske Board) which looks to be very similar to Coosa in both functionality and cost. Their "320" lines up nicely with the Coosa Bluewater 20 (floors) and their 420 lines up with the Bluewater 26 (stringers). A member here is a CompositesOne employee (Nautique Frk) and pointed me in the right direction. Go online and identify their closest distributor to you and give them a call- they'll be able to set you up with an account to purchase direct. As far as I know, US Composites does not sell Coosa or Airex... but I do get all of my other fiberglass supplies from them. ------------- |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-09-2012 at 3:04pm
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Nice job on the engine hoist, haven't seen that on here yet. ------------- |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-10-2012 at 2:28am
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Worked out great, took a total of 30 minutes from the time he pulled in until the time i payed him. Like butter ( rich man engine hoist)!!!! haha ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-10-2012 at 3:01am
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Cool thread going on here! I am glad to see someone finally got that boat... sure not so original but the makings of a pretty nice ride definitely some money spent so far. I agree with brother Benjamin that you should go with the coose/airex option, after all what is another thousand amongst friends. Certainly the payback in the long term is worth a g? Lets see you at the St Johns river in March with or without boat, maybe we can teach you a little beginning footing (if it is me doing the teaching beginning is all you are going to get) so you can do that boat proud on its maiden journey.
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Posted By: Ben#155
Date Posted: January-10-2012 at 8:28pm
| Nice engine!! must be scary fast! |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: January-11-2012 at 6:00pm
| Shane, It was good talking with you on the phone last night, If you need a contact for purchasing items from our Composites One facility in Lakeland Fla. I will hook you up. We sell most all of the materials you will use. The guy who rebuilt the Fish Nautique on this site did an awesome job on the whole project you should look at his posts and possibly talk with him as well he could be a good resource for you as well. |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 12:42pm
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Joe thanks, Id look to think i am as sophisticated as you Grand poobahs and your floor rebuilds! I couldn't agree more with Benjamin. That is one computerized SOB!!! I would love to come to the river in march and do some footing. I'm not sure where you are talking?? assuming in North Carolina...she covers some miles now. I am about 15 away here outside of Jacksonville Fl. I anticipate at the rate it is going to take me to comprehend how to be so precise with this floor job that (spunky,his name)will still be underway, no guarantee though, will just have to see!
Frank, you were very helpful with your advice and i most likely will be ordering through one of your distributors! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 2:18pm
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The St Johns river run is in florida outside of orlando, most everyone stays at http://www.parramores.com/ - Paramores ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 3:09pm
 
That's great! Def do plan on attending. Have to get specific dates and plan it in..Check out this Rudder port, its totally messed up..The port hole is basically all weak and broken fiberglass...not sure what all im gonna need to do for this?? Help would be great! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 3:27pm
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Shane,
Originally there was a plywood built up area around the port. It looks like your's completely rotted away. For reference, Tim's BFN rebuild thread should have some pictures of the built up area even though he used the Coosa. Since this area was in such bad shape, I highly recommend you look at all the wood built up spots. Especially the lifting ring anchors. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 4:41pm
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I actually already took the wooden piece off..Its more of the underside of the whole im worried about. ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 5:04pm
Shane, The outside of the hull? Gel damage? I wouldn't worry about the inside. Once you gring it down and build it back up, it will be fine. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 1:39am
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Yes, it has gel damage pretty severely. The fiberglass you see with the hole and screw holes for the Rutter port is actually cracked. I belive some grinding will need to be done to the as well??? Im going to have to learn how to gel as well because i have all the gel or fiberglass on the front of the keel scraped off and a few other spots. ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 11:14am
You'll have to grind it back to solid glass on the inside so the new build-up will stick. You may then have to go at it from the outside after the structure is back. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 12:24pm
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Wow, the glass around the port is in tough shape for sure. Our was bad, but not that bad. On the bilge side, Id add a few layers of glass (mat/cloth/biax) before tackling the hull side. We were able to repair ours externally with thickened resin alone (and a careful hand with a dremel to reshape the recess properly). You may need to add some glass there too to build it back up.
Ours before: 
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Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 2:32pm
Nice job on that rudder port repair 
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Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 3:18pm
Nice work as usually Mr. Ben, Hes where i am as of last night, Lots of grinding and itching still to come As you can see some gel was removed when pulling the exhaust tips, thinking of going with that stainless myself!  ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 3:20pm
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Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 3:21pm
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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 4:35pm
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Shane - Great progress. I am sure when you start putting it back together, it starts being fun. What was the hole (to right of ex outlet) for? Bilge pump? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 8:37pm
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SN- The pictures are a lilttle oversized, you can actually scroll from left to right on them....There is actually two holes, one by each exhaust..They are under water accent lights(led...I hope it becomes more fun!! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 9:57pm
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Just throwing this out there, while you have it all apart. I'm thinking with the deeper hulls of these BFNs:
Has anyone ever attempted a slalom ski edit: locker, running lengthwise? Like either just to the left (or right depending on cable runs etc.) of the doghouse? Or would an unsupported cavity long enough for a slalom ski not be possible? I'm thinking it could have a coupe of piano hinges like the in floor coolers on the modern boats have. |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 11:03pm
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That is a good thought. I couldnt imagine making enuff room for a ski being you have ribs in there for floor support..I may consider some type of cooler, That would be great!!
So unfortunately i have gotten quite a few gel spider cracks from taking out the floor and stringers..What do you all suggest i do?? Makes me= not happy  I started grinding today which takes forever and i dont think i have ever wanted to go crazy as much with all the scratching ahhhh!!!------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 11:09pm
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Invest in some disposable paint suits, helps with the itch ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 8:52am
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+1 on the Tyvek suit.
Where are the cracks showing up? Did you remove both main stringers? Figure this out before you go forward. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 9:20am
Make sure you post over on PN and WB the finished LED lights. They will really love them!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 10:43am
I assume youre talking about below the floor? The factory put ribs between the secondary stringer and hull wall every 30" or so. You'd need to remove (or seriously cut into) at least one or 2 to end up with a cavity long enough for a ski. If not refoaming, placing a rib every 12-18" is a better practice... so not a lot of room left under there. ------------- |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 12:13pm
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While pulling the plug port and skeggs off i noticed some gel that was cracked on underside of hull where left main seemed to be.
.ill get a pick up, also a few on the gunnels as well. Seems when i pulled th exh tips and one of the skeggs the gel came right off with it??? Im screwed ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 1:13pm
well, if its just on the underside you can grind out the crack and repair. Its not so bad! Yours could look like mine and be cracked everywhere, I will probably need to regel one day. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-21-2012 at 7:32pm
here is me getting ready for some grinding today.....I also grinded right through the hull?????? Assuming ill be okay doing glass when rebuilding>> very thin there!! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-21-2012 at 7:32pm
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Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-21-2012 at 7:33pm
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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-21-2012 at 8:08pm
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Ya I did that too in a spot. It can be patched, I did mine with the edge of the grinding disk ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-21-2012 at 10:18pm
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Shane,
Are these pictures showing you going on a has-mat job? Sorry, but I always question the "protective" gear you guys seem to use. I just go out and grab the grinder and do it! What are you afraid of? Have you been looking at the MSDS on the resin and glass?------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: January-21-2012 at 10:19pm
| Do you have the boat supported other than the trailer? here is a pic of my project supported. |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: January-21-2012 at 10:27pm
| Sorry wont let me upload pic! look at 75 separator rebuild and you can see the cradel the boat sits on. look at pic of boat out side of garage. |
Posted By: 79TiqueRebuild
Date Posted: January-21-2012 at 11:02pm
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Shane, I went thru the hull on mine also. My hole was smaller and I put tape on the outside of the boat and filled a layer with thickened epoxy and the built up with glass. No problem.
I'm with you on suiting up while grinding that glass dust gets everywhere. And itch! Looks like your making good progress thanks for taking the time to share with us. Monty |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-22-2012 at 4:01pm
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I figured it would be fixable!! Not a great feeling going through! Yes i am going haz-mat! I was tough for the dirst timr to until fiberglass was up my ass!!! The boat is just supported by the trsiler right now, will block it when getting ready to assemble, so much grinding still left to do!!! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: January-22-2012 at 4:08pm
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Time out! You really need to do some reading. I'd suggest picking one thread that most closely matches the meathods you are using and try to get very familiar with it.
In a thread like that you'd see that removing one main stringer at a time maintains the hull integrity and prevents stress cracks in the gel. You'd also see that you want your boat properly supported before the floor comes out. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-22-2012 at 6:12pm
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Buffalo, its a lilttle late for that!! I am following a thread and im doing nearly bens build. ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-22-2012 at 9:17pm
Ben who? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: January-22-2012 at 9:25pm
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Tim benjamin ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-22-2012 at 10:15pm
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ya get that thing blocked. You dont want to mess up that pretty gel. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-23-2012 at 9:08am
Got it! Yes, following in Tim's footsteps is a fantastic idea. You will not go wrong except, don't use Bilgekote over epoxy!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-23-2012 at 10:04am
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leftover sperm costume? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-23-2012 at 10:58am
Greg, does this mean that you did all of your grinding in the garage? Ill never make that mistake again! We kept our BFN mobile (on the trailer)- all grinding was done outside. We stripped it to the bare hull and only supported it properly prior to rebuilding the structure... no extra stress cracks appeared in the hull. Perhaps the late 80's boats were a bit thinner than our '79 though? ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-23-2012 at 12:25pm
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Grinding in the garage Tim? By the looks of it I don't think he can even get in the garage
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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: January-23-2012 at 1:02pm
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Tim, did you forget about my little scrap gutter set-up?
If you didn't see anything wrong other than a potential ski locker on the last page, then I must be way off. His trailer is also interesting under these circumstances. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-23-2012 at 1:12pm
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Greg, I cant see any of the pics... I can only comment on what I read.
I dont remember the gutter set up you had- remind me! ------------- |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: February-24-2012 at 7:29pm
Hey guys, time for an update i suppose! I finished all of my initial grinding, got all my coosa here and have to order all of my glass and such still. Starting to mark her up and see just where everything is gonna place. Looking forward to meeting some of you at the SJRR, I think i may just have my new camper i can throw a tent in right here!!  ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: February-24-2012 at 7:30pm
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Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: February-24-2012 at 7:38pm
 I went ahead and pulled out my front lifting ring backer which was nearly the only piece of wood that was completely dry, go figure! ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-24-2012 at 7:50pm
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Is that NM cable under the bow deck or marine duplex? What's it for? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: shane krausser
Date Posted: February-24-2012 at 8:19pm
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Dont forget im running the smartcraft system so theres a ton of different wires. Which one are you speaking of? ------------- 86 Barefoot Nautique 496 |
Posted By: JReisch09
Date Posted: March-25-2017 at 3:54pm
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How did the project go? Thats actually my families old boat, had it for about 12 years. Replaced the old 454 with the 496, my dad works in the marine industry and we were testing out Mercury's smart craft technology for them. First boat I ever learn to handle, spent every summer on that thing in high school everyday, wake boarding and skiing, dates. Was sad to see it go but Dad didn't want to do the floors and sold it to our friend Phil, who you bought it from. If you ever want to sell it let me know, would love to see some pictures if you still have it. ------------- Jon R 1987 Fish Nautique |