Opinions on 1st Wakeboard boat
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Topic: Opinions on 1st Wakeboard boat
Posted By: jo-e90
Subject: Opinions on 1st Wakeboard boat
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:08pm
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Need help finding a good used wakeboard boat with a GT-40 for about $11K
This thread left me confused - http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/98227.html?1076734216 - http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/98227.html?1076734216 I dont know my CC hulls for wakeboarding and cannot afford a SAN. Have read the SN's from 1990+ hulls did not favor wakeboarding like other CC models. Could someone in california look at this DD for me? http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/2767067442.html - http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/2767067442.html or would a V drive be better. I am a beginner wakeboarder. thanks ahead. |
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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:15pm
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Wow, alot of boat shopping going on this winter, thats cool.
Honestly if your a beginner, I dont think you really need a SAN. I think a mid nineties sport wouldnt be a bad choice. You can get the gt-40 and load it up with ballast. Or you can go with a 2001, smaller but has a good wake, that would be well under your price range, and do some upgrades. V drives are "better" but really I dont think you need one. Now that I have seen kap doing tantrums behind his SN with no ballast, Ive decided its all hype! HA! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:22pm
| Would you go with an older excel or newer sport DD with the GT-40? |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:26pm
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well, I cant comment on the excel, there are a few guys on here who have them they may chime in. You may get a better price on the sport as they are a little more common. I dont really think the V drive is a must, especially with the bigger boat, get more people in some ballast, it would be fine. I learned to board on my buddies 99SN CB with no ballast and we could do wake to wake 180 etc. So I really think the sport would be even that much better than his. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:29pm
If money wasn't an issue, the Sport. You're talking $5k+ difference there though. ------------- |
jo-e90 wrote:Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:32pm
| Should I run from this compression test on a '97 - (123,110,105,128,125,123,90,123) |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:34pm
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hmm that 105,90 is concerning, usually a good rule of thumb is they should all be within 10% of each other. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 7:45pm
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Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 8:32pm
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jo-e90 this thread clears up the changes to the Sport hull.
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20031&PID=247920 - Sport Hull Changes Jody (F1 Inboards) was working at the factory at that time. So it is straight from the horses mouth the TSC stickers on the 98 Sport are just for marketing purposes. I can add my 2c here, went from a 89 SN2001 which I only just sold before Christmas to a 98 Sport. The wake on the 2001's is quite a vertical wake and it is hard to get enough weight forward to get a more progressive ramp. I find the Sport wake has that nice progressive ramp which is easier for most beginners to intermediate riders. The 2001 loaded wake is more suited to advanced riders who have great timing on their pop off the wake. The 2001's are great boats as they require very little weight to get a boarding wake. We hardly ever used ballast bags as long as there was enough adults in the boat. ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 9:05pm
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I'd call myself an advanced intermediate wakeboarder. Heel side hero, etc. I put a fat sac in my 88 one time, a fat seat about 1/3 full between the motorbox and back seat. 2 people in front and 1 on each side of the engine. First trick raley one foot out of the binding you can guess the rest. I was done for the day. No more sacs. My buddy used to load up his 88 so full he'd have passengers ON the bow.
Shorten the line up a bit, no weight and you'll be OK with a 2001 wake. ------------- |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 10:10pm
I still prefer the 2001 wake to most anything else. Load it up just like HW said with enough weight that it barely planes off and it is just perfect. Boots you to the moon. It is steep and the water feels rock hard when you hit it, but if you know how to ride it you will learn to love it. Still regret selling my '83.  ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: January-05-2012 at 10:56pm
| Its crazy how you can get into some mid 90 SN's for a little more than what some are asking for their 2001's |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 12:34am
My personal opinion - at some point a boat is not new, it's not a classic, its just old. It looks like you might be from Southern California. Correct Crafts of 82-95 are kind of just old boats here in CA, and it doesn't matter a whole lot if it's 20 years, or 25. Here those boats go for 5-12K. Better shape, higher end of the scale. I tell you what's crazy is all the wrong answers you were getting on wakeworld. I know there are some Nautique owners over there who know these boats much better than that. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 11:09am
Wow, I just checked the link and youre right. I dont think there was one piece of correct information offered in that entire thread. They may want to stick with ballast systems, stereos and wakeboarding advice... because they sure dont know a thing about Correct Crafts! Its scary if people actually go there hoping to get (good) advice. ------------- |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 12:46pm
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As a 2001 owner (my first boat) and wakeboarder you can't go wrong with an older correct craft but as you have a little more budget than I had and have more choice being US based I would go with a sport 1993 or newer to get away from the wood stringers.
A sport will enable you to progress with a great shape to the wake without being intimidating and as you progress you can add some ballast but take it easy, charging at a massive wake before you have good technique and are ready is a really bad idea. Find yourself a nice example and be prepared to travel/fly to look at them, there are lots of nice examples out there but they just take a little time and effort to find them, getting a good dialogue with the seller is also a must as you will soon find out more about how the boat has been treated and used. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 8:23pm
| Do sports have a better wake than Ski Nautiques in the 1990-1996? |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 9:30pm
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Yes. The sport is what helped elevate the wakeboard revolution. That was the original quintessential wakeboard boat and ultimately what the first Air Nautique was based off of. For the most part, all CC did was add a tower and some ballast and graphics. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 10:31pm
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http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=29568 - http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=29568
Would this boat have a reliable motor as the GT-40? Which one of these boats have the most reliable motor? http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=59748 - http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=59748 |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-06-2012 at 10:48pm
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The most reliable motor is the one that has been maintained the best! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: January-19-2012 at 4:27am
| Looking at a boat, has over 500 hours on it and the owner says he removed the heat exchanger before it was used in brackish water. 1st owner let it sit for 3 years before he bought it about 7 years ago. Runs good. The A/T is leaking between the Tranny and bell housing. Any advice would be appreciated as to purchasing the boat or asking owner specific questions. |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: January-19-2012 at 1:07pm
Mercruiser Mags are Chevy based, and a Mercruiser. So, I would have to think parts are readily available. Also, from images I've seen of them, they look pretty straightforward. A friend of mine has a Merc Black Scorpion (an uplevel Mercruiser engine with higher output) in his Malibu and it's been very reliable for him.
That's a tougher call, you'd have to go from boat to boat. I agree with Snobsessed. I was surprised to see Malibu Sunsetters so affordable on the spectrum, but that seems like a good option. |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 7:42pm
| What would be your next brand of choice other than a cc, with a reliable motor of course? |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 8:07am
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Don't get too hung up on the reliability of a particular motor, these have all proven the test of time IF they have been looked after, my view of the motor is that its something that can be worked on and even replaced if you need to. The most important thing IMO is the hull of the boat, you need to choose a hull that fits with your chosen activities.
Your original post states you are looking for a wakeboard boat, this limits your options to the 2001, sport, super sport and the MC 205 (96 onwards I think) / early DD X-Star. There were a few changes around the 205 hull around 96 which turned it into the X-star DD which is what you would be looking for. Personally I would stick with Correct Craft and stick around here where you can get all the help you could possibly ever need and know that there is nothing that the guys on this site cannot help you resolve. I went through the process of buying a boat last year and its just a nightmare trying to find something that fits your requirements and is in great condition. My UK budget only really left me with the 2001 as an option for wakeboarding but I was tempted by other brands and different hulls but none of them would have suited my needs and I would have ended up selling it to fund another one within a year or 2 max. Don't forget its the hull you want so possibly think about reducing the budget for something that needs a bit of work and spend the extra on getting it back to looking and running great. You have seen some of the work on this site that has been done to various boats and there are some amazing transformations. Hang in there as a Correct Craft with your name on it is just around the corner 
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Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 11:53am
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Jo where are you at? what part of the country are you in? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 2:29pm
MN |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 1:34am
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Jo, there just are not as many correct crafts here (MN) as other parts of the country, but they do come up. Have you had a chance to go out in any of the boats you are looking at? A little time in and behind a boat is very valuable. If you could get to a reunion you likely could try them all. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 4:10am
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No CC's , just a Centurion servo 230 and MC X1.
How is it possible to test all boats at a reunion? |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 6:01am
"Mind if I take her for a spin?" ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 10:50am
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Jo, Check out the reunion section, there are several around the country. depending on your time frame and resources, green lake is the closest. that will be a mini reunion this year, but there were about 40 boats there last year. If you could get down to Florida for SJRR It will be well attended. You can easily get a full weekend on the water without bringing a boat. CCFans are just the best people in the world. I have seen guys that I know have a thousand hours into restoring their boat toss their keys to another member. Two years ago my son received barefoot instruction from members we meet at a camp fire the night before. I was able to partially return the favor last year when the same group had boat problems, and needed a way back to the camp ground with the wives and kids. I sent them off in my boat, my only concern was that the boat would not let them down. The stories I read here of members hospitality continually inspires me to be a better person. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 11:32am
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+1 dave,
its a family, just ask and you will get the hookup. I honestly think you should consider a 2001 hull like mine and daves. You could get one for well under your budgeted price they are readily available in good condition for reasonable prices. That would leave you money left over for a tower and some sacs and any maintenance issues. If you wouldnt mind the travel there is one here by me in ohio that is seriously really nice and the guy is asking 6,000. Its in better shape than mine and has low hours. But I am sure there are comparable ones closer. Or pony up and look for an older sport nautique. They are definitely out there. Ill keep my eyes peeled. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 11:35am
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check out this one in iowa, I like those colors and price seems reasonable. This gets you the open bow, more room, gt40 engine and no wood in the boat for under 10K and its one state away. I would call the guy.
http://correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=6184&sort=&pagenum=1 - 93 Sport ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 2:51pm
The price seems a little high considering this boat in the link below probably sold a little north of $11K with GT-40 MPFI, Factory FCT2 tower, V-drive, nice skins, half the hours and 4 years newer. http://www.reachoo.com/ads/29836689#tampa-1997%20Ski%20Nautique%20Super%20Sport,%20310%20HP,%20wake%20tower%20%28Belleair%20-%20Largo%29%20$14200 - http://www.reachoo.com/ads/29836689#tampa-1997%20Ski%20Nautique%20Super%20Sport,%20310%20HP,%20wake%20tower%20%28Belleair%20-%20Largo%29%20$14200 |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 3:02pm
That ship has sailed my friend. Plus, the guy with the 93 Sport is likely open to offers. He says OBO. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 3:04pm
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I think that '93 Sport in IA is pretty aggressively priced. I think I can count the gen 2 (all composite) Sport Nautiques that Ive seen priced below $10k on one hand. ------------- |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 3:10pm
Tower and skins would add another $6k plus low reasale on a post 1000 hour boat. I will make an offer. thanks I've just seen better deals out there but the distance hurts and long distance test drive. http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1997-Correct-Craft-Sport-Nautique-98833553 - http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1997-Correct-Craft-Sport-Nautique-98833553 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 4:42pm
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well here is the thing how soon are you planning on selling you gonna flip it or something? If you arent gonna keep it long buy a cheap 2001.
Also 6k for tower and skins sounds steep but I guess if you went all out. Plus you said your price point is 11K and that 93 is a fair price and he will probably come down. Most gen 2 sports are higher than that. That one you posted a link to is 14,200. Thats an easy 5K more than that 93. Is your budget 11 or 15 thousand? http://iowacity.craigslist.org/boa/2806985523.html - Here is the craislist add for it ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 4:51pm
Well Im not saying that is the best deal in the world but its available and it looks like you could work with him on it. Plus I like the color scheme but thats just me. Also I dont see a need to replace all the skins right now, pace yourself. No 15 year old boat is gonna have brand new skins. So if you spend 11,000 on that one from GA it still needs skins and a tower. So its out of your price range. also there is 500 dollars worth of gas between you and that boat. That 93 is in the next state and the main difference is the hours and most guys will tell you here thats not as important as the care. Are you looking for a boat to use or the best deal in the country? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 5:27pm
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Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 6:21pm
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whatz |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 6:41pm
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Just so you see another part of the market check out this awesome moomba for 9500. Its got a tower,check, awesome interior..........check............ I feel like that 93 is looking like a better deal every second.
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1996-Moomba-18-Ft.-Series-101394947 - 96 moomba ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 6:51pm
I really like the way this '93 was cared for and comes with tower. Too bad it is a ski. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=6052&sort=&pagenum=1 How about this '93? Has about half the hours of the gray '93. If that could be had for $11k, which '93 would you go for? http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=5607&sort=&pagenum=1 - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=5607&sort=&pagenum=1 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 7:04pm
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ugh that purple is a deal breaker for me. Like I said the hours on a 93 are almost a non issue to me. I would have to look at it and talk to the owner about the level of care etc. See how knowledgeable they are.
Also he may not come down to 11 on the pruple one. People who own nautiques know what they are worth and arent gonna give them away. He is not out of line at 12,500. I bet his bottom line is between 11500 and 12000. They are both options but you are gonna have to look at them and talk with the owners. If they are in great shape they arent gonna come down alot, if there are issues you can start to bargain. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 7:07pm
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you didnt like the 90's-rific ski box? aka moomba? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 7:10pm
| The purple on the Sport is a little tough. But, I dunno. I would personally go for it if everything else is cool and it's been taken care of. I'd ask for some more pictures, but it looks like a clean boat. |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 7:13pm
| ugh - monster towers are the ugliest towers made. They look like wide spaced tent poles after a hurricane ripped off the tent. |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 8:03pm
You're pickier than my ex-wife.  ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 8:16pm
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That purple '93 Sport looks to be in pretty good shape.
I would not sell mine for $12,500. The bigger, open bow boat sure is nice! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2798 - 93 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 8:44pm
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I agree with Tim that 93 Sport is well priced. The longer you look the higher prices will go as summer gets nearer. The hour meter is the last thing I would look at in any boat over 5 years old. Maybe not the last but I feel that general condition and maintenance are far more important than a hour meter that is so easily manipulated. ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 9:03pm
Its just a matter of not regretting my decision. 
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Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 9:11pm
So... should I buy a boat without test drive? |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 9:39pm
I would highly recommend that you don't do that unless you have no other option. Even if you have to spend say $350-400 for airfare to fly somewhere to test drive, it will be money well spent in my opinion. When I test-drove the supersport, that is where I found that the steering cable needed to be replaced, water was leaking from port-side exhaust hose into the muffler, and packing needed replaced. I used these things to my advantage to drive the price down further than it already was. Things you find wrong with the boat are your bartering chips in most cases. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 9:45pm
In that case, I will have to wait until summer to make all these test drives. |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 10:03pm
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OK, Joe, don't take this the wrong way but I'm really questioning your direction here. You're all over the map with the questions, everyone is giving you some real solid advice on different boats you've been asking about (and there have been a LOT), you're asking about test drives, and you have also been told that now is the best time to buy due to it being winter, etc etc. And you just say that you will have to wait until summer? I guess I am a little confused. It was 75F here today in FL. There's a ton of boats for sale in warm climates right now and the prices are the best they're gonna be all year. Are you really looking for a boat or just jacking everyone around and having a good time? And wtf is up with the Uncle Buck link? Where is its relevance to anything on this entire thread? If you are a John Candy fan at least post the vid of him skiing behind the jet boat in The Great Outdoors, that was a good scene. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 10:13pm
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No offense taken. I have asked people to look at boats for me, the ones up North cannot be test driven yet.
How is your boat doing? What did you get him down to? I am looking for the deal you got. I am trying and thank all for helping. So far have gathered alot of info from this site. Have you ever lived up North?
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Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 10:28pm
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Ok, here is my $.02. I think it is very important to test drive. That's just me, but you're not gonna buy a car w/o test driving right? You're darn sure not gonna marry a woman without a very long test drive either. Same goes for a boat. You have to be comfortable driving the boat. That's where it either clicks or it doesn't. Like I said, plane tix are relatively inexpensive all things considered. But you don't need to get to that point until you've narrowed your search to a few good boats you are really interested and talk with the owners. This is another extremely important step. Are they mature owners? Do they know about the boat? Ask maintenance questions, and who has done the maintenance, what intervals, etc etc. It's pretty easy to tell right away who "knows" their boat and who doesn't. The guy that bought my '96 asked me all kinds of questions about it and I was totally fine with that. I was glad he did. He drove from Texas to buy it sight unseen and I wanted to make sure I built a mental picture of the boat (as well as sent him numerous pics) so that he knew EXACTLY what he was getting before he got here.
There are a lot of really great buys out there right now, but you can't get sucked in to finding that perfect boat for that unbelievable price. Chances are very high it isn't going to happen. I bought the Supersport you saw. It needed work, but I expected that. I went and drove it and took in everything that was wrong with it and figured in my head how much it would cost to fix everything and made my offer accordingly. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you want a perfect boat, then buy a new one. If you want a good boat at a great price, then you're going to have to expect that there will be little things here and there that need fixing or replacing. But that's part of the fun of owning an older boat, and its even more fun when you can fix it yourself. I hope you find a great boat that you really enjoy. You just gotta jump off that ledge and take a risk. If you happen to fall along the way, there's plenty of people on here to help you get back up. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 10:29pm
I spent the first 16 years of my life in NJ.  ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-10-2012 at 11:08pm
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Just asking.
On another note, I have called, texted, emailed many boats for sale on this site and found that many are either not for sale or they dont reply. I have tried to report these to Keith but they remain. Don't know his screening process. I have offered to pay for correctcraft dealer inspections on some and the owner backs out or says its not for sale right now. I have also made reasonable offers $100 under asking price and no response. I figure if people cannot find the energy to make a phone call or email, they probably didn't have the energy to properly care for the boat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4v-crPSrj0&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4v-crPSrj0&feature=related |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: February-11-2012 at 1:36am
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Jo-e:
Make sure you look at the post dates on the sale ads that you respond to. I still get a surprising number of folks emailing me about boats that I have in the diaries and have sold YEARS ago. Many of the folks (and their boats) may not be around if they are old ads. I still am on the look out for that perfect 93 Excel.... all that I have contacted through the site responded quickly (if their boat was posted in the last few months)...... don't get discouraged! Steve ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: P71_CrownVic
Date Posted: February-11-2012 at 1:50am
Yep...took me 3 years to find mine. ------------- |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-11-2012 at 5:18pm
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An important thing when looking is being able to drop everything you are doing and move on a boat at the ealiest moment, this mean having your money accesible and being able to drive or fly to its location at a moments notice to close the deal.
I was watching the market everyday and a friend was also searching daily for me, I had contacted all the local dealers letting them know what I was looking for with my budget, I also talked to everyone I met. The first boat I looked at was not even advertised and was found through an aquaintance and a chance discussion. Its a long process though and not something that just happens unless you are very very lucky, you have to know the market know the details of the boats you are looking at. I downloaded and studyied the engine manual and service books for boat(s) I was interested in and I trawled every possible website out there for information and issues people were having. I was on this site for a good year before I even joined. I kept an email record of all the boats in my price range with thier dates, pictures and links for over a year, but when I saw the one boat I purchased I contacted the seller the same day the advert went live. Keep looking and good luck. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: P71_CrownVic
Date Posted: February-11-2012 at 5:24pm
All towers completely ruin the way these boats look. Towers are like baggy pants. It's a horrible fad that needs to go away. ------------- |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: February-11-2012 at 5:50pm
I can wait 3 years but I dont know if my wakeboard knees can, as I in my 50's and just started to take up the sport. I hope it will not be too late before I go to my grave. The funds are tight because of the economy and I do mostly volunteer work. Its amazing how young people with $50k boats are looking for $80K boats, when I could buy 4-6 boats with their $50K boat equity, but cannot afford it and I am not getting any younger. |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: February-11-2012 at 9:41pm
I doubt these young people afford these boats..... the old folks bought 'em and the the young folks drive 'em because the old guy's knees didn't hold up......... Youth is wasted on the young! ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: P71_CrownVic
Date Posted: February-12-2012 at 7:24pm
Well, in all fairness, I'm young (27) and don't like the new boats as much as I do the older ones. For me, they are just full of gimmicks and really don't have any soul. Sure they are nice (mainly because they are new), but they are just boats. That being said, I would trade my boat and my two brothers for a new, 505HP Corvette Malibu... ------------- |
Posted By: cthorne
Date Posted: February-20-2012 at 11:43am
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Steve, I have a 94 Excel for sale if interested. See link below as I have gotten a new one and need to let this one go.
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=5562&sort=&pagenum=1 |
Posted By: Tiger76
Date Posted: March-13-2012 at 12:21pm
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jo-e90 Keep looking I just bought my first boat this past weekend. 93 Sport Nautique perfect interior with 770 hours for 10K with trailer and I looked for almost three years before I found mine. Posted on craigslist on Wednesday and I called within 1 hour and picked it up on Friday. Good deals go really fast! |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: March-13-2012 at 1:21pm
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Hey Ross, welcome along..you have been looking for a long time. jo-e90, I am sure you search wont take quite so long. We all need to see pictures  (I though I would get that in before anyone else) and I am bored today so need to see more pictures.------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: Tiger76
Date Posted: March-13-2012 at 2:44pm
At Lake Martin this past weekend. I need a bimini and board racks or I'm gonna do a tower with bimini and board racks.       
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Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: March-14-2012 at 9:09pm
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I just don't understand why the SN2001's asking $9K - &13K when you can get a 1998-99 Sport or Air for the same or a little more? I would like to get the SN2001 because of the SP Package and the hull but can never pull the trigger as I see 1998-99's going for the same or a little more. Why do people buy/pay these 23-26 year old boats for same $$ ? |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-14-2012 at 9:44pm
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Because of their well earned reputation. Have you been paying any attention to the advice you've been getting? ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: March-14-2012 at 11:15pm
I'm really beginning to wonder if he's just some troll from the Mastercraft forums just here to f with all of us. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 2:57am
Then what does that say for some '98's+ http://michigan.findanyboat.com/boats/ski-nautique-1998.html" rel="nofollow - 1998 ski vs http://oregon.findanyboat.com/boats/1990-ski-nautique.html" rel="nofollow - 1990 ski http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=5970&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1988 ski vs http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=6067&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1998 Air Also, what is the person limit in a SN2001 vs 1993 Sport? |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 7:25am
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in your first "comparison" the one advertized as a 98 is an 89 in the ad so...what was the question? ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 9:46am
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$9-13k is going to be top end for a 2001 in excellent condition that is going to last several seasons before anything needs doing to it they can be had for much less than that in very serviceable condition just in need of a little tlc. The Sports for this kind of money are going to have some issues and need a little tlc so you are looking at the best of one boat and the worst of another (I am generalizing this ) The 2001 is the BEST budget wakeboard capable boat you can buy, this is why they are always in demand and people think* they can charge more for them than they are actually worth. At some point you need to pull the trigger and get yourself onto the water, the main difference is space with one being OB so providing an easy storage/extra seating. I believe the 2001 has a capacity of 6 people and the sport has a capacity of 8. (somebody correct me if I am wrong, the 1990- ski is 6 also) Find yourself a nice example of either boat and PULL THE TRIGGER and GET YOUR AR53 ON THE WATER, its warming up very nicely *Advertised price and sale price are always different. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: Tiger76
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 10:47am
| My 93 pictured above rides 9. I'd been looking at an 89 2001 and decide on the 93 sport because of the extra space for people and storage plus no wood stringers. |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 3:07pm
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1)Is it true that the 90's+ sports need more weight to make the same wake of a SN2001? 2) Also, which SN2001 for sale here on CC would you buy over this http://correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=6067&sort=&pagenum=2" rel="nofollow - 1998 Air , assuming the Air could be had for $11K? 3) Where can you get a bimini for a SN2001 that already has a tower? Will a factory bimini work with all towers? 4)What are the differences in 3 blade and 4 blade props in the SN2001? What is special about the Acme prop? thanks for being patient with me. Some here have taken 3 years. I have made multiple offers on many boats already for $100 below asking and owner backs out or says not selling anymore or already sold or dont get back to me. I have many offers out there right now and continuously making reasonable offers on CC's. I am not a troll. |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 3:19pm
Also these are asking prices but that would be on the very high end for a 2001. A super clean 2001 just sold by me for 6500. I would say thats more of an average price. Remember if there is on in the diaries for 10K and its been up for 2 years its because that guy is nuts or not really serious about selling. On the same note not very 98-99 sports go for under 10K. So...not really the same price at all. In fact I would say 10K for a 93 sport would be a decent price. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 3:27pm
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Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 3:35pm
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1) Nope I don't believe that; the wakes are different, the 2001 is a smaller boat with a narrow wake, both are going to blow your mind [:>] 2) Decide what you want, the Air will not suffer stringer issues has more space and will put out a monster wake. The one you have linked to has a few issues that have been discussed before. The 2001 has a special place in a lot of peoples hearts  you either want one with the issues they have (stringers/smaller size) or you want a newer boat.3) You need to know the size between the tower and get a bimini to fit, should not be a big issue getting one from any supplier. 4) There are lots of threads about this on here but you need to find them and research. Don't worry about this until you get a boat, because swapping a prop is not a big job. Decide what you want and what is important to you, choose your budget and then get something. Don't blow everything you have on the purchase as there is always stuff that will be needed. Get out there and look at the boats you are interested in, don't just get the pictures. A seller wants you to get into his boat and ask questions, you need to engage the seller, you want him to sell you his boat, Pick up the phone and speak to the seller rather than do everything over email, chase down everything you are interested in and keep chasing until you have one. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 3:49pm
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http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1984-Correct-Craft-Ski-Nautique-101354949" rel="nofollow - Clean 2001 $5995 http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1988-Correct-Craft-Ski-Nautique-101670814" rel="nofollow - Budget Wakeboard $7999 http://www.boattrader.com/browse/make/correct-craft/sport-nautique/" rel="nofollow - Sport Nautique Search I am just not seeing these 1998-1998 sports for 11-13K everywhere. In fact the average price is more around 17,000. If everyone is charging 17,000 and you find one for twelve, why do you think that seller would be selling at such a discount? Because he is stupid? Or he has no idea what his boat is worth and is too lazy to spend 5 seconds on the internet? Or because there is a something wrong with it? This is why people keep asking what you budget is. Because 98 sports with tower and perfect interior dont exist for 11,000. You will regret you purchase if you spend all summer at the mechanic than on the lake. Trust me once you at the end of that rope, you wont be thinking about what is towing you. Its all you then. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 3:50pm
I will let others answer the technical questions- though Im sure you can find all you could ever want to know on most of those by doing a search right here. Lots of info at your fingertips!
It sounds like you havent had much luck in trying to buy a boat. Here's some free advice- take it for what its worth! -Some sellers are flakes. They like to list things on the internet for sale, but dont like to field emails. Theyre either afraid of spam or technologically incompetent. Im sure some are just testing the waters and dont respond to any inquiries. Others arent courteous and will not continue to field responses to their ad after they have one or 2 semi-serious lookers. If youre getting a response about half the time, that sounds about right. Frustrating as a buyer for sure, but thats how it goes! -Low priced stuff sells fast. Lots of bargain hunters out there. If you see something that catches your eye and is a good deal, then move fast. Dont sit and wait- minutes and hours count. Use every mode of communication at your disposal. Email and then follow up with a phone call (or vice versa). Provide multiple contact methods yourself- include your email address in a voicemail, and your phone number in your email. Answer your phone when they call back, return calls and emails quickly. If youre not on top of things, someone else will be, and they'll beat you to the deal. If something is priced ridiculously low, be prepared to pay full asking price, rather than haggling. -Low priced stuff sells easily. If a seller is getting a lot of interest in an item, they may not want to deal with the guy asking a lot of questions, asking for a lot of pictures, and lowballing them on price. They'll deal with the easier potential buyers first, or ignore you entirely. If youve got a line on a good deal, make it easy for the seller- get out there and see it for yourself, if possible, rather than relying on someone to do a lot of legwork for the sale. -Sellers are suspicious of tire kickers, especially on the internet. The fact that you have "several offers" out there right now on multiple boats means that they cant all be serious... after all, youre not going to buy all of them, right? If sellers can sniff out that youre BS'ing them, they'll move on. You need to prove to them that youre serious. Do something to give them confidence that you'll close the deal... call them on the phone (this shows serious interest as opposed to a faceless email). If you come to terms, make sure to offer to send a deposit. Even better, show up in person, and bring CASH. ------------- |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 3:53pm
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http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1993-Correct-Craft-Sport-Nautique-223101" rel="nofollow - HAHA, this guy is "sacrificing" his for 18,000 ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 4:06pm
Some great advice here  One thing I'd add. I get the impression that Joe is wasting a lot of time and energy looking for a boat that is equipped in a certain way (ie tower, prop, bimini etc.) I think the focus should be on getting a good condition, good running boat, that needs next to nothing or needs a few small repairs to get on the water. Also, I woundn't worry soohhh much about the size of the wake. Unless you're already a highlty skilled boarder, it will take a long time to outgrow the potential (even unweighted) of the boats you've mentioned. |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 4:39pm
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Making an offer over the phone or internet $100 under asking price without ever looking at the boat in person will not ever get a response. ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: March-15-2012 at 11:47pm
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The best advice I can give is to decide what you want, find a nice one, & pay the guy a fair price for it. The bitterness of a bad purchase will last much longer than the sweetness of a low price. I paid too much for my boat but am very happy I bought it. PS - The money outflow doesn't stop with the handshake - it is only the beginning! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Nevergrew
Date Posted: March-17-2012 at 10:19pm
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2001's are going between 20 - 25k here in Oz. Count yourselves lucky you don't need to pay these dollars. Guys who go to the trouble of importing their 2001 get a sweeter deal. Most of these though are bare boats and need trailer mods, towers, racks and biminis etc. Most 2001's here are in very good condition and are known to be the best value wake you can purchase. Sports & Airs are fetching between 35 - 45k, pre 07 210's go for 55 - 65k hence the reason 2001's are popular for wakeboarding enthusiasts. Another reason they are popular (for me in particular) is they are small enough to fit into garages and can be towed by our relatively small passenger cars - Holden Commodores / Ford Falcons etc. You US guys don't realise how spoilt you are for choice.... |
Posted By: jo-e90
Date Posted: March-18-2012 at 7:01pm
| Why are most SN2001's missing the big "2001" decals? |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: March-18-2012 at 9:02pm
If you are talking about Justin's boat. It is a 89 which does not have the large 2001 decal at the rear of each side. Justin fitted latter model Ski Nautique decals that are tasteful without being original. At least he did not put a tribal "Air" decal on it. It was not until 85 that Correct Craft started using the larger 2001 decal the first three years of the SN2001 82-84 had the three colour painted side strips with the smaller 2001 lettering. The larger 2001 lettering was used from 85-88 in slightly different forms. The 89 SN2001 used a much smaller size lettering for the "2001". These decals were hard to source but the original style can now be sourced. ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: drtybrdy9
Date Posted: March-26-2012 at 4:19pm
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Joe, I feel your pain, looking for boats in MN is brutal. There just isn't a huge supply out there. I live in St. Paul but the http://correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=6047&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 93 excel is for sale in Shell Lake, WI not even 2 hrs from the Twin Cities. Word is that the ice just went out on the lake over the weekend, so it would be available for a test drive shortly too. V-drive and I feel like it has great wake for boarding. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5402&sort=&pagenum=1 - 05 SAN Limited 210 |