HUGE LOSS!!!
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Printed Date: January-12-2025 at 9:50am
Topic: HUGE LOSS!!!
Posted By: Nautique2001
Subject: HUGE LOSS!!!
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 12:32am
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Guys, unfortunately I've been bottled up for about six weeks with some shocking news I'm still trying to process. For those of you I've had the pleasure to meet at past CorrectCraftFan reunions must know my wife, Patricia. Six weeks ago she decided that our marriage is over. I don't want to get into all the details, but it's been a tough time. We still love each other very much, but she's going on her separate way.
Anyway, more than ever what's important to me is being around friends and family. I look forward to seeing you all during upcoming events or just sharing topic via CCF. I'm going to shine the '86 up and appreciate everything I have. Amazing how losing the most important thing in your life will make you appreciate every little last thing. Patricia is an amazing woman and I very much appreciate the over 18 years total I've spent with her. Looking forward to an awesome 2012! Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
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Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 12:42am
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Ken, sorry to hear the news, been there done that, as have a few on this site.
SJRR 2012 is right around the corner, you now have a good reason to come to sunny Florida for a get away weekend in late March. Plenty of CCFans there to see and warm water to enjoy....See you there Billy/Karen ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 12:57am
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Ken, I feel your pain my friend as I have been through the same thing. I hate to hear of anyone's marriage disolving and so sorry to hear about yours. 2011 was a rough year for me being without Kim but life will go on and it gets tough sometimes but you already know that. Your right in that you have a family here and the guys with whom you have personal relationships are just a phone call away and they will call you just to check on you. Thats what they've done for me so I know they will do it for you. Focus on the day, get out of the house when you can and hit some of these CCFan gatherings that are popping up and spend some quality time with the best boat buddies around. Hang in there buddy! ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 12:58am
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Thank you, Billy. Great group of friends on this site. I'm fairly confident I'll be at SJRR this year. Working on a few things at the moment. I'd love to see you all. Will let you know for sure soon.
Thanks, Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 1:05am
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Thanks, Tim. You never think it will happen to you. It's always others you hear about and feel awful for. I'm working very hard on finding things that put a slight smile on my face. Minutes feel like hours, hours feel like days. It's like starting life all over again. Floating in space, living on the moon. I'm so lucky to be a part of the CCF.com family. This is why I'm reaching out. Anyway, day by day it's getting a little better. I'll lean on you all for quite some time and look forward to brighter days. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 1:59am
| Hay Ken! Sorry to hear the news, but every ending starts a new begining! we never met but we will this year,hang in there and talk alot to your friends and family,time heals all wounds, so people like us will be happy in the end! never give up! life is to short. you will be happy again my friend. jeff |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 2:28am
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hopefully you still have my cell number if you ever need to talk. if not..pm me and I'll send it right back. always enjoyed those conversations we used to have a few years ago.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 3:22am
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Ken, that is sad news. When I went through my divorce at first I could not tell anyone for a few weeks, then something kicks in and you tell everybody. A coworker who had been through the process responded with one sentence. He said "your getting on a roller coaster". I though I understood but it took awhile to appreciate his insight. Talking seems to help the most. This thread could be therapeutic for a lot of us, I say keep it going. Take good care of yourself.
Dave ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 6:45am
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Ken, sorry to hear about the bad news.
I went through a tough crisis in my marriage last august and september. Chantal and I were on the brink of divorce and I lived in our caravan for a few weeks. A real sh*tty period!! I was lucky enough to save my marriage and we're doing better than ever. You will indeed need all the support you can get. Talking to friends and family helps the healing process and getting over the lonelyness... But try to keep your head up and move forward. ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 7:55am
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Life is one massive adventure with lots of happy times and some very low points that may seem desperate but there is always tomorrow and time on the water, stay close to the friends you have and they will see that you are alright. Sometimes you won't feel like going out and doing stuff but you need to push yourself out the door to get out there and discover who you are and what you want from life again.
I do speak from experience as I went though a divorce a few years back after being happy for 15years. I now have a life that's more than I could have ever dreamed of with a new partner that dosent mind the odd face-plant  things are very good and the future is full of promise.
Hang in there man things will get better. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 8:02am
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So sad to hear that Ken. Jo and I really enjoyed your company at GL. Maybe time to head to Australia for a bit of sunshine. CCfans are always welcome to stay with us downunder. ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 8:45am
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oh boy, that *************** does hit you like a brick wall, take advise from these guys that have been through it including myself, surround yourself with family and friends, especially a good friend that will listen, if he is a friend he will listen, you gotta vent and not hold that *************** inside, at times it will feel like you wont get through it, but you most certainly will as all of us did. you'll look at this thread 2 years from now and will tell us how right we were. sorry to hear,
were men here but admittedly we have these GD feelings too that you cant control. keep yourself busy and i will also extend any amount of time if you ever need to talk....im a good listener 330-322-8817 ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 11:40am
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Ken it is a roller coaster i have climbed the hill 4 times.......if that doesnt make you smile ....... ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 12:15pm
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Ken,
Been there, done that and now I have a new wife, a new life and two great kids. I have been married for 26 years, 13 to each one! Hang in there. As much as your world seems to have colapsed it can get good again, maybe even better. Hang in there and your welcome to a pull on Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchabunagungamaugg this summer. Kevin ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4487" rel="nofollow - 1998 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 12:25pm
| Ken, I'm sorry to hear that. Hang it there, it will get better. Good time to make reservations for SJRR and Music City and be with your friends. Call me any time. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 2:20pm
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Sorry to hear your news Ken, any breakup can be a tough road but I can assure you in due time you will be a stronger better person as a result. Position yourself and focus on where you are at, a new beginning, resist thinking of it as the end. In the big picture you are better off, being in a hollow or 1 sided relationship is cheating yourself of what you want or deserve.
I am another one who has gone down the “D” road, been there done that, looking back it was the best thing for me, only regret was I waited too long to end it. Keep yourself busy, make a list of what you want to accomplish and just do it! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 6:31pm
Ken, sorry to hear the news. Like the guys have said already, keep your head up and think of the good times! Hopefully we'll be able to see this again at SJRR!!!!
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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: January-12-2012 at 7:21pm
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^^That picture puts a smile on face every time. Wish I saw it in person. Everyone with their hands on their heads and their mouths open in shock.
I guess I've been "lucky" enough that many of my relationships have detonated before I got to the point of marriage. So, I guess I've ridden the kiddie coaster a few times. My cousin is going through a separation and it was still fresh last summer. It was great in a way, because we spent more time at the lake water-skiing and hanging out, than we had in about 20 years. We had a great time and I'm secretly hoping they don't work it out, because I might lose a ski buddy. Larry (75 Tique) and I were talking last summer that it would be cool to get some ski sessions going at Lake Cochituate, or up in NH. It would be great if we could make that happen. In the meantime, we live close enough that if you feel like grabbing a beer, hit me up. My gf has a few single friends too so... |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 12:19am
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Thank you all for all the kind words. It's great hearing from you all and understanding that I'm not the only one who has gone through this. It's so hard to say goodbye to someone you still love with all your heart. Patricia has been such a special person for so many years. I can't even start to picture her with another man. The thought makes me absolutely sick. I thought I was such a nice person. I guess I wasn't. Anyway, I will take all your words of advice and move forward with my life. There must be something waiting for me in the future but I can't imagine what. No doubt I will come out of this a stronger person. Believe me, nothing seems to bother me these days. I can't wait to see you all in the near future and get busy living. John, I would like to speak to you at some point. I think you know everything about what happened. Thanks again, guys. I look forward to some fun, up-lifting threads on CCF.com. I need a good laugh!
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 12:22am
We should get together sometime, Brian. We do live fairly close. You guys are more than welcome to come out on Lake Cochituate with us to run the course or do some footn'. We're out there almost every Saturday and Sunday morning. Good times ahead! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Bri892001 wrote:Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 12:25am
You don't have to ask me twice. I'd love a pull. I absolutely love your family too. They were a lot of fun talking to at the reunion. Thanks, Kevin. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 12:31am
Thanks, Chris. It certainly feels like the end of the road. It's been almost 19 years since I've ever dated anyone else. I plan on keeping myself very busy. Maybe I need a project boat to keep myself busy. I know of one or two close by in Connecticut! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 1:31am
Eventually it really won't matter who did or didn't do what. Just doesn't always work out.
You're about due to blow up your motor aren't you?  ------------- |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 10:02am
You need to focus on the good things, Picture yourself with another woman, pound anything with a pulse, lol, best therapy going!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 11:29am
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i say sleep with her friends better yet a relative ..female though ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 11:47am
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LOL, you guys certainly know how to shift gears. Somehow I knew Hollywood would give his input. Yeah, I'd fix my engine Ken style and have about 25 spare parts, including a couple of pistons after reassembly. I change oil, plugs, wires and cap only.
Thanks for the laughs!!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 66Skylark
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 2:36pm
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Ken – I’m sorry to hear about the split.
It sounds like a few folks on here have been through this. Friends and family sound like a good recipe to get you through this. Try not to dwell on what was… Thing about what could be… Hang in there! Kyle ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1445" rel="nofollow - 1966 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1976" rel="nofollow - 1998 176 MA/ |
Posted By: wakeboardin2k4
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 5:31pm
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Ken- Im really sorry to hear about your split from Patricia. Hopefully things will brighten up for you bud. I know I am planning on going to the SJRR and you should too! It will be a great way for you to get your mind off of everything! ------------- "I'm planning to bring my girl that rides on a trailer with me and leave my girl that complains about camping at home" |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: January-13-2012 at 7:33pm
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aw Ken that stinks.
I'm in the same, heh, boat, almost same timeline its funny, sometimes being nice, i found, tends to make one think bad things shouldn't happen to you, and often that (expectation) is just why they do. Lots of stages, give it time, take good care of yourself You will know yourself better too wish you best ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 12:10am
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Wow. I am sorry to hear that Ken. Keep your chin up, you'll get it figured out. Hit me up if you feel like chattin. I wish you both the best.
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: Gonne929
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 1:36am
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Remember, start the countdown, we will be chasing those damn red balls in just over 90 days! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4946&sort=&pagenum=2 - 84 Nautique http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5573&sort=&pagenum=1 - 99 Nautique |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 11:48am
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Ken - About 5 years ago our best family friends split up. The wife decided to go lesbian. The husband bent over backwards to give her time & space, etc - went on for over a year. They did finally get divorced. I felt sorriest for the kids with 2 moms coming to their school events.
Well, the husband ended up marrying a well-off mutual friend & is now doing very well. Hang in there, you not going through this alone, we got your back. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 12:16pm
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tell us more about the lesbians friends ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 1:23pm
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Eric, can't add much more, my wife broke off all contact with the lady after she made her decision, for religous reasons.
I can add another story, however - a guy at work, about 40 with loving family, decides he would be better off as a female & gets the operation. He transferred to another plant in our company, so I never saw him/her after the change. These people must really want these lifestyles, as there seems to be a big price to pay to get there. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-14-2012 at 1:47pm
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Now you got me thinking about this stuff . . .
Another true story, this one was about 15 yrs ago. A co-worker's wife took a liking to her daughter's boyfriend (high schooler) & had an affair with him. She initiated the divorce, stayed with the boy. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 1:09am
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Yep, That's the reason I moved away from Iowa, too many lesbians.
But, I will have to say Miss Iowa is looking pretty cute. |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 2:00am
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Welp, Not cute enough.
Miss Wisconsin wins! |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 11:36am
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not hot at all either. CC hot lesbians, are considered art to me lol, its the ones that wear the flannels,,,,ugh ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 3:49pm
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Thanks again to everyone for all your kind words, thoughts and advice. Life goes on and I'll come out a stronger, wiser person.
I will never make the mistake again for note communicating what's on my mind and expressing my feelings. The was my biggest downfall that put me in the spot. Never lose touch of the little things that count for your wife. Open up your ears and eyes more. Cherish and enjoy the things they love. For those of you who have met Patricia, you know she's a warm, kind and supportive woman. I only wished that I had taken a few minutes a day to remind her how I felt about her and starting a family. Huge advice, TALK about everything. Don't keep bottled up. Nobody can read minds. I still haven't figured out how to yet. I'm hopeful to continue to have Patricia in my life to some degree, even if not my wife, but an awesome friend. I hope to see you all at some point this year. Better days ahead. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 4:20pm
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hang in there bro, whatever may become of your current situation it will be for the best, sometimes you got to let a bird spread their wings, dont pressure that bird cause then it will fly away, give her some time and you both will think rationally, you are suffering from a loss in your life right now and alot of us have been thru it, so your not alone....I read your posts and know exactly what you are going thru and you shouldnt blame your self....if a man can communicate to a woman, then he is gay, ever notice how a gay man has alotta hot girls around him. Men cant communicate, impossible. But again you were the same man you are now when you met her, so something sparked her interest.
Give her some time, think things out and whatever the outcome is, is what it is suppose to be. things happen for a reason in life. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 10:46pm
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Welp Ken, If you wind up with a pair of hot bi-lesbians, me and Lavine are gonna be purty bummed.
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 11:04pm
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I was at a store once pushing the cart, and noticed a couple of girls, one smokin hot and the other flanneled out, went around the corner to the next isle and they were gingerly hugging with a kiss, no meat in their diets...the flanneled one looked like Chers kid, but yes she was a girl....when do the wires cross? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-15-2012 at 11:19pm
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I was walking into a Target, few years back, I started to open the door for these two gals, both in flannel, both recently been to the barber shop, both had arms like Terry Hogan. One gave me a look like she was ready to kick my ass.
I was just trying to be nice and non-judgemental. Probabaly a good thing I didn't say anything. |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 12:45am
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Ken I am sorry to here of your divorce. When I got divorced back ten years ago I had the best summer of my life with my boat and friends. Just look forward to all the good timesand good friends this summer. Go out and tear up the lake this summer. Dont worry about your boat you can repair it next winter. ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 3:19am
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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 12:49pm
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Ken,
Just don't spend too much time wondering: "If only I had just (made more money)(Listened more)(helped out around the house more)(been funnier)(been better looking)etc." At the end of the day, you were the best person you were capable of being. And that time spent wondering is time you don't get back. Your better off wondering how you gonna grab that one more red ball 
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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 1:06pm
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Doc, you ever catch a south park episode?
Along the line of your Target experience: http://vodpod.com/watch/920367-carpet-licking-birkenstocks-and-bam-youre-a-lesbian - South Park Clip ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 1:39pm
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Thanks, Brian. I think Patricia and I learned a lot from this awful situation. I know it's woken me up to things I never saw in the past. I'm going to come out the other end a stronger person, as I know she will too. I'm in no rush to move on relationship wise. Getting myself squared away is priority number one. Everyday I look for one or two little things that put a grin or even smile on my face. An occasional laugh is helpful too. CCF.com usually helps with that. The future is very unclear. It's very difficult to look days or weeks ahead. Getting through each day is an accomplishment of its own. I just want Patricia to be happy as well. I NEVER in a million years pictured myself without her. Nothing else in the world matters when you lose your loved one. It's too late for me to try and work things out now. Maybe someday in the future we'll cross paths again.
Thanks again for all the support, guys. This is a great group to lean on. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 2:14pm
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Hey, you can let your eyes wander at the boat show this year. ------------- |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 2:51pm
Ken, Tried unsuccessfully to reach you last week to see if you wanted to go grab some dinner after work some day. Give me a call if that works for you. 508-367-4122. -Larry ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 2:56pm
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Hi Larry, my personal cell phone is cooked. I'm replacing it on Saturday. I'd definitely like to get together with you soon. Got some traveling on my agenda this week and some heavy travel in Febrary. I'd be willing to meet you half way somewhere. I should have your email, so we can touch base that way too.
Thanks for reaching out. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 4:08pm
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A few words passed on from my preist during mine and Brenda's breakup, 3 kids and 30 plus yrs.I too just wanted everything to be the way it WAS...
The last 8 years of my life have been filled with more blessing and adventures than I ever thought possible.I would have only met a few members here had it not been for a divorce,for that I give thanks....Boat dr "There comes a time in every cowboys life ,when "YOU" have remove "Your" saddle from that dead horse and move on" ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-16-2012 at 7:25pm
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one door closes another will open, your experiencing temporary insanity Ken, (tryin to hide the boobs here from the wifey) its seems the majority here have been thru it but we all say the same thing..you will heal but it will take a bit of time ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: January-17-2012 at 12:45am
And you will have time to take care of the blue ones later. ------------- For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats. 1987 Ski Nautique |