1986 SN 2001 - complete restore
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Printed Date: November-19-2024 at 12:41am
Topic: 1986 SN 2001 - complete restore
Posted By: newguy1986
Subject: 1986 SN 2001 - complete restore
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 11:46am
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Hey Guys,
about 8 months ago I bought an 1986 SN 2001 off this website and I had huge dreams of doing a restoration on the boat. I got a fair deal knowing the floor was soft and a researched on here which lead to me thinking the stringers were bad as well. I thought I would do the job myself but with going offshore most of 2011 I never found the time. I recently dropped it off in humble to get the floor and stringers quoted. 2600. I didnt think that was bad with carpet and everything installed. I got the uphostery quote today and they came in at 2300 for all seats rebuilt and covered. I know most of you like to repair your boats at the house but for me thats not an option. Can any one tell me if these prices are fair? this is a pic of the day i picked it up and stopped off to put new tires on. 
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Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 11:52am
I have already approved the work for the floor, stringers, and carpet.
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 12:12pm
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People in the know are going to say you should have asked before you ok'ed the work and that it sounds too cheap,I think the materials alone add up to that ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 12:19pm
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The quote for the floor and stringers was 2000 and the carpet installed was 500.
Your saying that I might get a bad job? I had them sign a warranty. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 1:13pm
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Really poor clip...but you get the point
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 1:18pm
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Not saying they will do a poor job. There are ways to cut costs (buying materials in bulk for one) but the amount of labor involved makes it very hard to profit from a business standpoint.
Guys here on the site have seen some really half a@# jobs done by "professionals" I'd just make sure to ask lots of questions, pictures and a material list so you know exactly what's going into your boat. ------------- |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 1:29pm
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Well when I went to the shop and talked with the guy doing the work he honestly made me feel like he new what it would take and that he was a stand up guy. Personally I feel if we can't trust in others and we can't go on a gut feeling about a situation nothing would get done.
Although you make valid points and I see what your saying. I guess I am just going to have to have some faith in the situation. What are your thoughts on the upholstery quote? ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 2:19pm
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From the looks of the cuts made in the main stringers, I'm getting the idea that he's going to just scab in some new ones under the engine. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 2:59pm
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Andrew, I'd just want to make sure he document's his process. Trust is not the issue here. The issue (IMHO) is making sure he's not going to scab something together putting you back into the same situation in 5 years.
I'd want to know if he uses CPES, Epoxy resin, doug fir and how he plans to put it all back together? If you're going to spend that type of $ with the guy, you should be able to ask away. ------------- |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 3:20pm
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I think "I" would want to see the stringers before they are covered and if not "right" or complete you could correct the situation then.
Offshore huh? ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 3:55pm
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well my guess is this is where he will cut corners is materials. If you used pressure treated pine from the home stores and poly resin no CPES, you could really keep your material costs down. Probably wont layer any glass over a plywood floor. I would say you could have materials around 800 dollars.
I know that methodology is not in line what we would do but I bet for a budget job thats what will happen. It could make it 10 years maybe. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 4:24pm
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I sent over a verification email about the materials but I remember specifically talking to him about wrapping to stringers completely and also glassing in the floor.
I appreciate the in put. This was the only place I called in the Houston area that would give me the time of day to discuss this job. I'm hoping my gut instinct doesn't cost me big time. And yes, offshore for work ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 4:41pm
well this is what it looked like yesterday.
also got an email response from the questions yall have posted from the shop. "Yes, all of your new floor & all of the stringers will be covered with 2 layers of fiberglass matting and will be bonded to the sides and stringers permanently as they where when manufactured. Please rest assured knowing your floor will be 100% structurally sound and is being installed by a licensed composite boat builder..other wise known as "@n@l Glen" don't tell him I called him that ok.. None of us want to ever redo a floor and thus far we have never had to redo one under warranty since 1995 when _______ opened its doors for business." WE WILL SEE!! I tell you what tho, I sure am hoping it is right cause i love that boat! ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 4:48pm
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Hey you get what you pay for, but if you get 5-10 years of use for 2500 without getting dirty then do you really have much to complain about?
They wont be using pressure treated to save money, because it is more money than untreated. They are unlikely to be using epoxy because epoxy is very expensive.. but that is the standard of care in the marine industry and polyester certainly has its place as the dominant resin in the marine industry. If they are doing an actual entire stringer job and using a reasonable amount of care you should be getting your moneys worth. For that much money on the seats you should make sure you are getting top quality material in the original style. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 5:52pm
Understand, boat, platform? ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
newguy1986 wrote:Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 6:23pm
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Boat / Barge mostly last year. I worked in Venezuela and Trinidad for 2 months and also some shorter times in Tampico, Mexico.
I am going next friday to pic out the colors. I expect it to be marine grade materials... Im changing the colors from red to gray. I couldnt stand the red carpet. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 6:42pm
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I'm replacing my 78's grey this winter with blue. The grey was in good shape but it shows everything and the PO wasn't too tidy when changing fluids etc. We have a hard time keeping the 96's factory grey clean as well. Just a thought.
Grey before... 
Blue replacement... 
...FYI, I'm not trying to go against everything you post, just letting you know what I've seen/screwed up in the past. 
Like Joe said, if you don't have to touch a thing and get to enjoy the boat another 10 years it'll be well worth the investment. Any engine upgrades while it's out??? ------------- |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 6:49pm
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yeah thanks for that storm34 and i dont take your posts as you are trying to go against everything. In the end I will be driving MY boat and YOU will be driving YOURS.
the red was HORRIBLE. I will see how the gray works and if anything its a listens learned. It will look better staind than the red did when changing fluids i feel like i would be bright enough to put something down to protect my carpet. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 6:58pm
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I can speak "first hand" that beer will NOT stain the grey carpet. ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 7:02pm
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Sn206 - didn't even think of that! Great to know!
Well as far as the motor - no. It ran fine when I brought it in. Any ideas?? I'm new to old boats ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 7:47pm
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Very good input Ryan!
Motor depends on how you're going to use the boat I guess. We pulled a 351 that was running great to add some power for barefooting....and it's always more fun to have more power! ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 8:08pm
No, but we do know it will stain the Teak sole of a Paragon!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 8:09pm
Good points all around, Joe. The interior quote is in the ballpark for a high quality, original set of skins. Just make sure youre getting your money's worth. I concur with the others that a $2000 stringer job is going to get you low quality materials and even lower quality labor. Personally, I wouldnt do it- Id be more inclined to run a rotten boat than to do a half ass fix... and continue to save up for a proper repair in the meantime. But thats just me. Im not convinced that a low quality repair will buy you much time vs. running a rotten boat a few years longer... but maybe Im wrong. Breaking down the costs, then that still has to be $500-1000 in material, right? I know a repair with epoxy would be in the $1500 ballpark. At $40/hr, that $1500 still equates to less than 40 hrs of labor... which is about 20% of the time estimate that seems commonplace for a first timer here. I dont see any way around them cutting serious corners, personally. Like Joe said, you get what you pay for! ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 9:22pm
Tim, I do not feel you are wrong and concur with your comment. It will be interesting to see what this "pro" does with scabbing in the stringers.It looks like a "half a**" job and BS about them never having a stringer job come back. It's too bad we can't talk to previous customers!
God help him if he took it to Cooter in Texas!!!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-08-2012 at 10:25pm
first off, I do understand people voicing an opinion about the decision I made, and second I understand that I should have asked yall what you thought before hand. thats the reason I posted everything. BUT with that said no one on this site can say weather this guy is actually a fair man that knows what he is doing or he is a scam. you dont know if they have or have not had any one bring back there boat from a stringer job. just becuase you have an opinion about a man you have never talked to or dealt with doesnt mean he is uncapable of doing the work. I found a guy that I trusted with out doing several background checks.... I can bet all the money that i have in the boat that he will do a better job than i would have. Just saying give the guy a chance......... he has been straight forward and including me by email during the whole thing.. i appreciate yall posting and I hope you continue to follow but we all dont say a painting is sh!t after the first stroke. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 12:56am
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I was fixing a fence that had rotted posts, it was 30 years old, I poured in 1 bag of post mix and my neighbor said oh no you have got to put in two bags so there won't be contact with the dirt or the post will rot like before. I put the other bag in just to appease him but really...the old post lasted 30 years.
So are you going FOAM OR NO FOAM? if you go without foam even a crappy job should last years and years if you keep the boat dry. of course I may be wrong ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 12:14pm
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whats yalls thoughts on installing a thick steel plate under the gas tank? I forget how much room is back there. any one thought of that before? if so how thick if possible.
I will post the update pic today when i recieve. hope yall are still interested in the "NON DO IT YOURSELF" build. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 12:17pm
What purpose would that serve? ------------- |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 12:19pm
For ballast? ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 12:48pm
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well, I dont know about the permanent ballast system. Seems silly to be throwing a big old weight in your boat to just cruise around or if you want to ski youll be very dissapointed. I had a buddy with a 95 ski and he just got one of those fatsacs that are like a couch and took his back seat out. To me that is the best because you are not losing any space and its removeable.
Also remember if you ever get in a situation with a shallow ramp or shallow water, you cant remove a steel plate. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 1:43pm
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Might jack w/ your trailering as well, maybe? ------------- ...those who have fallen and those who will. |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 2:27pm
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A thick steel plate is just going to cause you issues, the ballast might need to be moved to tweak the wake depending on how many people you have in the boat (and if you have and fatties) a permanent fixture especially as far back as that is just going to make this difficult.
I am quite interested in the results of your off-site re-string, I understand your reasons for doing it, not everyone has the space/tools/time/skills for taking on such a project, I really don't know if I would be able to take on such a project, at the moment I absolutely don't have the space or the skills needed. Who knows the future of the boat you could get a cheap stringer job to get you through the next 5-10 years before you upgrade to something else.......or you could give it all up and become a hermit that drinks alcohol from a brown paper bag for the rest of your days whilst using the boat as garden ornament, who knows! Its your boat and it needs to be on the water to enjoy it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 2:42pm
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MattB, that is a great point. I was just thinking with a 1 1/2 steel plate I could get just under about 500lbs. and with two sacks rather than 3 I could achieve about 1500lbs and have leg room for the back seat. I like the idea of replacing the back seat but then where do the girls sit during a booze cruise. BUT the points regarding docking and shallow water are great points. doesn’t make sense to limit your docking abilities in any way.
If this in fact is not the perfect stringer job and lets say I get 5 years of fun. by that time I might want to make this thing into a v drive. I honestly think its going to be fine. My parents raised me on boats and taking care of boats. I dont know how to build them but i can take care of it. my Cousin has a 1986 sn. original everything. its awesome and inspired me to get one as well. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-09-2012 at 4:37pm
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well the backseat is removable anyway. So if you are booze cruising drop it in and if you are out shredding put in the sac. They arent expensive the couch one is like 1000 lbs of ballast for like 200 bucks. Or you could go with the sacs that go on either side of the motor box but I feel storage is limited anyways why make that walking area smaller.
I always felt that a solid tank could replace the seat bottoms things in the back of a SN and get probably close to 500 lbs of ballast with a factory look and not sacrifice seating or space. You would need something custom for that. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 10:34am
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No work on the boat lately due to the weather here in houston. Rain rain rain.
Going to pick out material and colors for the seats on Friday. I'm pretty sure I am going with the same pattern as original but changing the colors to gray and black with a white base. Thoughts? ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 11:25am
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What about a light gray base with a medium gray and black on it. Like Mine!!! Be careful with the whites, if it has any offwhite/yellow in it, not sure it will look right with gray.
Is your boat still going to be burgundy on the outside? Are you sure you want to abondon it alltogether. What about doing white burgundy and black or something. Or a super dark burgundy that almost looks black. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 11:34am
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I am honestly not a fan of the burgundy. I really liked the silver editions but couldn't find one in my price range. To be honest your boat is one of the boats I have been looking at to model. So your saying your main color isn't white it is light gray?
I really didn't like the bUrgundy floor so that is what is changing the rest of the interior. My thought for the outside was the restore the gel coat myself. I need to get to reading up on process and compounds. Then get a complete light gray sticker to cover up the burgundy strip exactly. Then go with some more modern logos. I Know it's not the original look but I think there is a place for a boat with some old and new school look. Plus if I want to go back to the burgundy outside I can take the stickers off, order the factories and move on. What do you think about that plan? I also considered a full wrap after getting the original gel back to par ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 12:04pm
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well, I agree, I dont love burgundy, its just a little bit of dated color.
Dont be offended if people dont agree with you on this one as we have alot of purists here and they just arent gonna get it. We all realize it is your boat so your call, but most advice will be go back to original. Since we agree burgundy is out here are some things to consider. I like the idea of just wrapping it but I dont really know how those wraps hold up under the water line, in the sun etc, do they scratch/scuff easily? So better research that. If you are going to cover up just the strip better make it a little wider or you may have trouble, also you probably should take it to a local graphics place so they have it since you are doing something out of the box. What about a red stripe? I am pretty sure your hull is off white, so I just think gray and off white arent gonna play nice together. The red would look ok with white. And to answer your original question, yes, I am saying my main color and the color of the silvers is a light gray. I also have a light gray deck. Remember that upholstery is right up against that top deck so think about how that will look right next to the off white. Get some samples and lay it on the deck. I think that will help you visualize what will work and what wont. I also think as a side note the reason people are against unoriginal is because most people just do a hack job. They paint it some insane color, butcher together some half A "modern" interior with a plywood backseat, and put some flame decals on it. I just havent seen a very good looking "update". I am open to it, just not with mine. HAHA. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 12:08pm
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Actually, I was just looking at Matt B's and his looks pretty nice so I take that back. Its classy but more modern.
Also maybe you hull isnt as off white as I am thinking. Just get some samples and you decide. Im trying to look at a picture on the PC. Why are you taking advice from me? HAHA. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 12:20pm
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Logan,
Good points!! As far as the wrap goes, with all these new tricked out nautiques with insane graphics there has the be some 3m tape they are using that is holding up well to the water and sun. If not I have found my get rich quick plan. When I look at the boat and picture what the gel coat will look like after long nights of wet sanding and polishing I think it will be pretty close to white or at this a color that won't clash with much. Also I would have to guess that I am one of the youngest if not the youngest boat owner on here. Bought and paid in full. Being 24 I am looking at it as a mix between the old school and the new school. If I don't like the end result it's still just a sticker. Maybe in some years down the road I will get it re gel coated to match the silver edition. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 12:25pm
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Also I have looked through some of the pictures from reunions on here.... All those boats aren't original haha ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 1:01pm
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Hey,
easy on us old guys, Im 26. I got mine when I was 25 and it kept mine original. In fact I removed some incorrect decals to make it original. But I also bought a color I liked. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 1:01pm
Phew.... 
I have some vinyl flames that will run from the bow all the way down the side which I think will really finish the look of nicely 
I have to agree that the purple isn't everyone's taste but don't be hasty, get the gel buffed and polished and looking the best it possibly can and then make some decisions on your colour scheme, I am sure there are some colour combinations that can compliment the hull....I can't think of any but there must be some 
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 1:10pm
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I'm not knocking the totally original look at all. Sitting in a 1985 totally original never restored nautique last fourth of July is the reason we are having this conversation now! Haha in my opinion it's kinda a personal style. Some like some things and some like others. Then some like both. I like both looks. I am for sure going with some sort of gray combination on the interior like yours. I have gray carpet being installed also. The outside will be decided on OCR a cold one and she is back in the garage where I can put some work into wet sanding buffing and polishing.
The sticker solution was winning in case this is just a phase and I want it back to the way it was at a later date. Off topic but reading my trailer. I want to do in rims ( I bought new tires on day one) and barings. Also my buddy and I were talking as he owns a spray in bed liner shop. I think it would be awesome to spray the trailer and install all new lights. Thoughts? Have y'all seen this anywhere? Could be a redneck thing? ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 1:16pm
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wait are you saying spray bedliner on the trailer? I dknow about that why not spray paint?
I think you are right that the sticker is the less permanent solution. I think you could get a custom decal with the design you like put on it and go right over the burgundy and bam you are done! Still you should buff the gel while its off you want to get that white shining! Also our had black carpet and not gray. in case you wondered. The advantage of black is it does not show stains or oil spots etc. It is also not hot as some would suggest but it does show every crumb. NO DORITOS IN MY BOAT! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 1:21pm
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Yea. Im saying spray the complete trailer with high pressure spray on bedliner. No rust no paint chips. Black matches the theme. My trucks black. The only thing I am coming up with as a negative is if the hull came in contact with the bed liner but if the hull came in contact with any steel structure I would be loosing my mind already.n
Just a thought. I need to do some grinding and such to get rid of some rust on the trailer any way. This would solve that problem for life. It sure would be original and different. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 1:33pm
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I would match the trailer to the boat colours and not to your truck otherwise the boat is just going to look out of place sitting on its bunks, it will end up looking like you have borrowed somebody's trailer!
Match in the carpet for the bunks and the stops and get it painted either white or whatever colour you are going to do your interior/stripe. I actually like the look of the boat from the first picture you posted, it just needs to shine. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 1:47pm
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Matt, I am matching the trailer to the boat. I'm going with a gray and black interior scheme with a gray strip on the exterior. Air nautique logos that are black and gray. Black tower.
Seems like black or gray would be the two options and a basically mat black finish I think would look pretty cool and make it stand out. You don't think so? Logan has a black trailer and he has basically the same type color plan for the interior ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 2:05pm
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ya I think he was thinking burgundy you and you metioned the truck matching thing. Ya, I mean I dont really know what the bedliner looks like exactly but flat black would be kind of modern. Maybe some flat black rims too, murder that thing out!
Is that bedliner expensive? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 2:07pm
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http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=nautique+wrap&view=detail&id=F3B582593D2A8A88E36CF6919D9CBE3B53E00E3E&first=121&FORM=IDFRIR - Just dont do this ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 2:16pm
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It would make the trailer look sick I can tell you that. It's one thing I am sure about on this build. Yes mat black rims! Need to keep my eyes out for some used ones local
The bedliner isn't expensive when your buddy owns the shop! He can use it as promotion as well on his website ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 2:18pm
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Yeah that link you posted. I'm far from that style my friend. I will make sure it is at the very least respected by the community on here. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 2:27pm
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haha just making sure. I have seen while scanning the web most people only wrap from the chine up to the rub rail. This looks ok. I couldnt find any pictures of a 2001 with one but there are some 90s nautiques with wraps covering that part of the boat. I think I heard someone say it was about 2000 dollars to wrap an entire car so you might be looking around the same price maybe less because this would obviously be less complicated. Maybe 1000. I have no real clue. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 2:54pm
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I think you could actually end up with something looking very nice
The only issue I have is that gel coat has lasted 20 years and will last another 20 and more with just a buff and a polish every few years for very little cost. Will the same thing happen with your wrap? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 3:03pm
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Matt, I am not into doing a complete wrap of the boat. Literally all I am looking for is a sticker to cover the existing stripe with a gray stripe in the exact same configuration. So like said above I will make it the same shape just maybe 1/2 inch wider to make alignment easier. This will hopefully only have one seem are at the most two. I would want the seems where I will put the nautique stickers on the side. Nothing crazy. Just stock 2002 model air nautique stickers. Then put chrome nautique letters on the stern. Nothing to crazy like a skull and cross bones here. Boats come off the line every day with full length stickered stripes. My dads bay liner had one. I will begin my search for a dealer and get some pics ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-14-2012 at 11:38pm
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any comments from the night crowd from the above ? ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 12:01am
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Some of the new Bedliners are pretty great coatings... A number of the show cars out on the trade show circuit this year are completely covered And look really good. You can get a vinyl stripe made in any color to gO over yours, reidp had a tri color blue early 80s pattern made up last year an it looked great. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 7:17am
Like I already said
I am just playing the devils advocate , you are investing a lot of money into YOUR boat and just wanted to float some opinions across...I would love a great gel coat rather than paint, my interior and a great gel and I would never think about any other boats ever again 
I am really looking forward to seeing some of the results from your efforts ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 8:21am
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hey New guy, Tampico, Vera cruz, Venezuela, hit all those citys working on pushers and barges for ACBL, in Venezuela i was on the Orinoco river dumping oil over the sides lol, they were actually
cant remember why i was in Tampico, but managed to get alcohol poisening there, Vera cruz at the Naval yard i think....how bout some history? you hauling Bauxite? i think thats the spelling ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 8:30am
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you a deck hand? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 12:24pm
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Matt, Yes i am investing alot of money into the boat and it is MINE. Not sure what you are trying to say. In my opinion and the opinion of others that have seen the current gel coat is that with some TLC and hard work it can be brought back to show room. So it will have a great gel coat in the end. I do not want to re gel the whole boat just cause i want a gray strip and not a burgundy one.
eric, No i am not a deck hand. I was operations Manager for BOA MARINE. we had a barge down in venezuela installing the Corocoro topside. 
this is also a picture of my truck after it was sprayed with bed liner 
------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 12:29pm
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Ya thatll be cool man!!! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 1:32pm
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When it comes time to sell/upgrade you will/may be limiting your buyers (IMO) and not because you have done something that is non standard but because you have a great gel coat in colours(stripe) that don't match anything so its wrapped and it will always need to be wrapped to match the upholstery and the trailer.
Keep it wrapped and it will look great...a bit like a wonderbra
You came on here looking for healthy discussion and hopefully that's what you have got but that's all it is a forum for discussion. My boat is non standard and not to everyone's taste and yours will end up the same. Your pic brought back some memories of my `previous` life..McDermot DB101 heavy lifting barge fitting telecoms for Shell and working for Schlumberger (flowPatrol) in their Well Testing division around the North Sea....I'm Glad I now sit behind a desk playing with Computers
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 1:42pm
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Matt, your right i came on here to just discuss topics regarding the boat. and maybe down the line a new gel coat will happen. gotta let the funds build back up! you are right about the stripe being like a wonderbra. maybe one day she will finally get under the knife.
I agree also with the resale issue. could be solved buy a gel coat in the future but then i would be more in the boat than i think i would be able to get out of it. To be honest though, i dont plan on selling this boat unless i absolutely need to and in that case i wont find taking a loss. I know many people upgrade but when its time for a bigger boat then i will get what suits the family and still have this one for the shear reason of its the first love. maybe that thought process will change down the line but one day i picture a small lake house and this baby in the garage / boat house. at least thats my dream. I interned for McDermott and my mother worked for them for 15 years. I am lucky cause i get ~80% in office time and ~20% offshore time. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 1:47pm
You and me both 
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-15-2012 at 8:55pm
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lotta oil in them waters...i love the bedliner on the truck, useful up here in Ohio.
sorry about the deckhand, i noticed you were younger and assumed ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-16-2012 at 12:38pm
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no worries eric! and yes there are. I currently work for Technip and im on a venezuelan project again... cant say that i love the place but it is rich in resources.
we are getting alot of rain in houston and its delaying the work on the boat.... I wish i had more progress pictures to post ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-16-2012 at 12:48pm
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you must not get on dryland often down there, you off the coast or on a river? oh, I got some stories
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: February-16-2012 at 12:50pm
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lotta witness lines in my face from that place ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-16-2012 at 1:45pm
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last time i was ther is when we installed the corocoro topside in the picture. this project will be in deeper water offshore. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-20-2012 at 11:14am
Some one sent me an email last week regarding the corner seem on the seats in the back. I forgot who it was and lost the email some how. I hope this is what you needed.
The boat looked good. they were starting to do the glass when I left. I picked the colors for the seats and they will be started today. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-20-2012 at 11:18am
some pics. Didnt get any good ones of the inside. sorry. I might get out there again this weekend. It is a 45 min drive from the house.
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Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 11:49am
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If anyone is still watching this thread I need an opinion on something. I have been thinking a lot about the idea I have proposed earlier about getting a large sticker made to cover the burgundy stripe on the boat. I think this will give me more problems than I thought with docking and scratches and all. One scratch and its going to look horrible.
The issue is the seats are already in the process of getting covered and the material has been purchased. This will give me a white base seat color with the seat accent colors been black and gray with a gray floor My current thought is going with two accent thick pin stripes to line the current stripe. something like this. if anyone has a better way to make this look on the computer let me know and all thoughts and bashings are welcome. Just brain storming my options now. down the road shes getting a new gel coat.  ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 11:59am
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just regel it.
Maybe they wouldnt have to be that wide. Just some black pinstriping or something might tie it all together. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 12:13pm
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Re-gelling just because you dont like the color is extremely cost prohibitive.
I would recommend replacing the interior with factory colors. Eating the cost of the vinyl youve already purchased is still the cheapest route, compared to your other options. Enjoy the boat in its factory form, for what it is. I bet the color will grow on you. If it doesnt, sell the boat and buy another one that suits you better. ------------- |
Posted By: notx2001
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 12:30pm
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Where around houston do you plan to be doing most of your boating when you get it all back together? ------------- 82-2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 12:39pm
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re gel is in the future. I have spent my boat budget for this year already. haha
a new gel coat is what i want but right now thats not a option. I agree with you in saying its the best solution tho. TRbenj - I half way agree with you on the restore but just becuase correct craft liked burgundy and purple doesnt mean every one does. This boat (86 model) it the style i liked the best other than the colors. I wish I could have found a silver edition but i didnt see any thing after 6 m onths of looking that i could make work. the picture was made in paint. I plan on getting some different size masking tape and laying it out on the boat to see what size i want. notx2001 - I plan on getting on any lake with enough water in texas. haha conroe is mainly where it lives due to it being close to the house. I really enjoy Canyon lake and a buddy of mine has a 02' and he has a place on livingston. where do you normally put in? any pics of your boat? ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 1:00pm
I guess I dont understand why you bought a boat in a color that you cant live with then! Plenty of people like burgundy, its a nice color. Personally, I have seen way too many CC's out there that were modified from their original look by a previous owner who "knew" how to "improve" on the factory appearance. Im sure most were changed with "personal preference" ("I'll own this boat forever" syndrome) or "modernizing" as their justification. In reality, with very few exceptions, all it does is limit the boat's appeal to everyone but but the person who makes the changes. And of course, it ends up being a good waste of money, as the changes reduce the boat's value instead of increase it. Few people keep their boats as long as they think they will when they buy them. "I wished I kept it more original" are words Ive heard many times... including out of my own mouth! Im not sure Ive ever heard anyone say that they wished they had deviated further from the factory look, after the fact. Things come full circle- you may not like the burgundy now, but maybe you will in the future. There was a period of time where many of the boats made in the 60's and early 70's were getting their now-sought-after retro colors- the greens, yellows, seafoams, etc- painted over with "modern" (for the time) colors, like white, red or blue. Now, we look back and wonder, "WTF were they thinking painting over this???"
You asked for it, so Ive said my piece.  ------------- |
Posted By: notx2001
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 1:03pm
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I just picked up my SN2001 recently also. I will probably be heading to somerville alot when it tops off. Which is looking good as of now, only about 3 ft low.
I went out to Lake houston to check it out over the weekend, not bad. Calm water, just saw a few skinny tree limbs extending to the water surface randomly, which is a little nerve racking. All my memories of conroe were of really rough water. I am just looking for good calm water. No good pics of boat yet. Just pics sitting on the trailer, heh.  ------------- 82-2001 |
Posted By: MattB
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 1:16pm
I don't think you are the only one that isn't sure about colour!
For more pics... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p5237.m2000013&item=120854771826&viewitem=#v4-41 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p5237.m2000013&item=120854771826&viewitem=#v4-41 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6102" rel="nofollow - 2001 http://uksn2001.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - SN2001 Blog |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 1:19pm
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I totally respect all comments. And I understand the concept of deviating from original will lower value. For me personally I liked many features of the 86 such as the hood scoop design, seat shapes and lines, etc. I got it because it was in my price range after some talking and it has relatively low hours.
Basically the only thing that will be changed when I get the boat back is the carpet and the seats. With the pin striping idea the outside of the boat will basically remain the same. So, my point is I’m not far off from the original boat and it could be made original with a purchase of some factory skins and some decals. All the seats will be rebuilt and all new foam. I respect these boats and think they are a lot of fun. I also like having something that is slightly different and custom than everything else that is floating out there. I hope I have not disrespected you or anyone else on this forum. I know many on here do all of this work themselves and that just wasn’t in the cards for me. Hey! When I finish it you might not say you would buy it but I bet you will say it looks pretty slick. Notx2001 – nice looking ride! Yeah it’s almost the same distance for me to go to Conroe or Lake Houston. That lake scares me due to trees and low spots even when it’s full. Conroe has many good coves you can tuck into and hang out in but you are right. If you are trying to go across the lake hold on. I like Conroe also because of the restaurants and many of my friends have homes there. Its nice to go to dinner and cruise back to the trailer at night. Actually its one of my favorite times on the boat. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: February-22-2012 at 9:13pm
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Andrew - I think your idea to add wide pinstriping is a good one, it is not a permanent modification. If the grey stripe in the upholstery pattern clashes, just get something else that matches, or go with only a black stripe.
I personally like the color of your boat. It's your boat, make yourself happy 1st. Tim has good points on resale -- but how much is a '86 going to devalue anyway? it's not like you are pimping a 2012. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: February-23-2012 at 11:07am
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I agree Chris. With what i have in the boat i could sell it on here for the average sell value of an 86 and be in the black.
Hopefully i can get some pictures today. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: February-23-2012 at 11:27am
I will second Tim on this one... I've been hanging around these guys for years now and can honestly say (again ) that at first I did NOT care for orange Correct Crafts whatsoever. The more and more I got to hang around them and their owners the more they grew on me. I would actually consider owning a orange boat as before you couldn't pay me to have one. Once you get her cleaned up and if you leave her Burgandy I'd bet the color would grow on you. May take a while but once the compliments start rolling in and the more time you spend with her , you may just change your mind on a new color scheme.------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: skicat2001
Date Posted: February-23-2012 at 9:26pm
I bought my nautique in 2005, and store mine up on somerville. First off be careful up there. Cost me 1500.00 worth of damage to my lower unit. Bent shaft, tore up prop and bent rudder. Hit something in broad day lite middle of the lake last yr...  Got lucky a couple times ran up on a sand bar too in the middle of the lake too. And the lake was only 4.5 ft low then... Just be careful..
BTW, there is some pretty nice water there and is not full of large boats. Lots of inboards there, espcially your large wakeboard boats. Great family people up there. ------------- 1985 CC 2001-SOLD Lee Michael Johnson |
Posted By: notx2001
Date Posted: February-23-2012 at 9:48pm
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Ya.. lake is coming up now. Hoping by middle of march it will be topped off, and I am gonna take the boat out there then. Definitely gonna be putzing around slow for a while watching the depthfinder and scoping the lake for good areas to ski. ------------- 82-2001 |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-23-2012 at 11:21pm
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[QUOTE=Morfoot]
I will second Tim on this one... I've been hanging around these guys for years now QUOTE] Your in bad shape then Tim but admitting you have a problem is the first step.See you in a month for counseling ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: February-24-2012 at 11:41am
...that being said Gary does this mean the first Counseling Session is on you? ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: February-24-2012 at 11:46am
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Thats a definite yes Tim! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: March-09-2012 at 2:30pm
UPDATE: floor is finished and the battery box has been glassed in! Carpet is being fitted and will be installed soon!! Im getting pumped!   ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-09-2012 at 2:46pm
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very nice ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: March-09-2012 at 3:06pm
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lookin good!!! Looks like your dash lettering is in decent shape from what I can see. That something Im working to remedy on mine. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: March-26-2012 at 11:35am
Update pic! Carpet is still being fitted. The upholstery was said to be completed and returned to the shop today. I will post when i get a pic sent over. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: Jllogan
Date Posted: March-26-2012 at 11:42am
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when you gonna hit the water? ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5792&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 1986 Ski Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: March-26-2012 at 12:05pm
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I am hoping to get the boat back next week. I doubt they will have the engine and upholstery in this week. After that I still need to work on the gel coat and install a stereo. But i have built a stereo in a cooler / ice chest for the pool so I will probably take it out right after I get it back and bring that for tunes until I get my stereo installed. Looking at installing a Fusion MS - IP600G head unit and 4 speakers in the boat. I am going to build speaker boxes to go under the gunnels in the front and back as others have done on this site. Then I have 2 10" audio ban subs from a buddy’s truck. I know they aren’t marine grade but they were free so they are going in a custom sub box under the bow until they crap out. Question: with this head unit, will I need an amp to run my speakers or will the 70 w the head unit produces be sufficient?    ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: March-27-2012 at 2:38am
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Andrew, What was the reason for not replacing the whole primary stringer? It seem's that it couldn't have added to much to the cost to replace the last 4' of the stringers. |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: March-27-2012 at 11:22am
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Paul, The last 4' were rock solid. I do want to say (with knowing most will see this as a mistake and I agree with that) the person who is doing the work has done many stringer jobs and I haven’t. He was not at all worried about that section having any problems. When I went to see the progress of the work the new material was already being put in and that section was left. I could have I guess called all stop to the work and then had to deal with telling him he didn’t know what he was doing. I should have done that. But I didnt. And that section is strong. Now. I understand that I most likely down the road (hopefully a couple years) will need to address that area. I made a mistake and I will have to deal with it when it becomes a problem. I wouldn’t blame the shop that is doing the work because they are replacing what is rotten and it will be a strong floor. I know many if not all will say that I am de facing a Nautique or I am dumb for doing a “patch job”. Which is fair. To be honest I am not concerned with that section having any rot currently…. We will see.I put my boat in there hands and that was my decision. let the bashing begin i guess. ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-27-2012 at 11:44am
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I do not feel we are concerned about that section having any rot but the strength of the butt joint in the stringer. The only thing that's giving it any strength is the glass over the wood. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: March-29-2012 at 8:22pm
seats are in but they are re doing the side gunnel parts becuase i requested to not have the speakers installed and they put them in.  ------------- 1986sn 2001 |
Posted By: newguy1986
Date Posted: May-02-2012 at 7:49pm
I know i havent sent any updates in a while. This has been a slow process... haha heres the pics    Checked the impeller before a lake run and good thing i did...   I have ordered a new impeller and thermostat. Also since some of my water hosing was cracking, i went ahead and ordered some replacement. I will also use this extra to make a bucket test setup. I noticed the seal on the water strainer was not "seating" like i thought it should so I went ahead and got a new one on order. Questions: I need to tighten the packing gland. (assuming due to leakage) any one got any advice? things i should know? i obviously have the original MV-1 control. from what i am gathering MV-3 is the latest and greatest. I have tried to get the "ball screw" off the top of mine a restore it but is so corded that its not saveable. I also like the idea and thought of having the safety features of the new model. Thoughts? will it work? (I assume it will) Thanks for your help on these things! ------------- 1986sn 2001 |