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Topic: Planes, Planes, Planes
Posted By: skutsch
Subject: Planes, Planes, Planes
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 5:24pm
So we got way off topic on the "Gas Prices" thread. We can continue the aviation discussion here...

Anyway, I'll post some other pictures as I find them but here is one of my C172 - Skyhawk 2




That's me with one of my neighborhood kids (long before I had kids,when we lived in Grayslake), his Dad would go for airplanes rides with me all the time. Unfortunately, you can't take a picture like this ever again...

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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 5:31pm
john b's previous post from "Gas Prices" Thread

Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

wingwrench: Lives in Lakeland, FL, owns Classic Cessna 180 and Piper Cub, building Experimental Super Cub on Floats, Expects to complete Full Restoration on D Model Mustang in next 2 years. Other Hobbies: Water Skiing and Correct Craft Ski boats (probably lives on a lake too).

Yep - that's my dream!

I agree, pretty sweet!
I have been around aircraft all my life. My father was a WWII B24 flight instructor at Muroc where he met my mother, who was a nurse there. They used to go to the Happy Bottom Riding Club, like everyone else stationed there. He was already a pilot and aircraft owner when he signed up. I still have a short snorter that I believe has Pancho's name on it, along with some other people he knew back then. I need to pull it out again, Here is a photo of his first plane, the Stinson, and his last attached, the Skyhawk I ended up with. I miss all the times we spent together. I love the warbirds too. My father knew quite a few people who flew and restored them. The coolest was Bill Ross's P38. I can't resist a couple of photos. My mother and father have both died, but I got a lot of opportunities just by being their son.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t220/72vsonic/IMG_3467.jpg



I would love to see any photos you guys have. I guess this thread exploded long ago, so I don't know if I hijacked it or from whom. Sorry if it is inappropriate. It's just that some said airplane.


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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 5:53pm
did I tell you guys gas was $4.09/gallon here?

(in keeping with getting off subject/ hyjack I had to post that)


some very cool pics!!!!

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Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 6:17pm
I used to fly a Rotec Ralley 4b similar to this in the 1980's.



Now thats flying. Boating is the closest thing I have found to flying without the annoying falling from the sky worries.




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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 6:34pm
CLEAR

Round Lake, IL


Grass Lake Rd. bridge separating Fox and Grass lake.


Twin Lakes, WI and Powers Lake in the back.


Geneva Lake


Delavan


Shot from a C172

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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 8:53pm
Dave - you just need to get some floats on that ultra light!

Kevin, those look like those could have been taken from my 172. Here is another shot in the winter - and I believe those are some of the Chain Lakes below.



I'll load some more of the flying / airplane shots as I find them.

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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 8:59pm
Here are some warbird pics - This is strapping into a T6


Some Formation Flying (not quite "Blue Ange"l separation but not bad for old guys...)



The two Steve's, me and the owner...



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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 9:09pm
John, that P38 looks like fun - its unbelieveable how easy the warbird trainers fly (T-6, Stearman), but I guess thats kind of the point. Those pictures of your folks are priceless, what a neat story...

Back to more airplanes. Here are a couple of expiremental's that I have flown. First the Lancair, that thing is FAST, FAST, FAST, only plane I have flown with speedbrakes.



Here is a Thorpe T-18, this is one of my favorite airplanes. Fast, aerobatic cable and really small. Thats my Uncle, Cap'n Zee TWA Captain-Retired, Naval Air Officer Anti Submarine and Raceboat Driver holding many speed records and points championships. Driving everything from Unlimited's to little A Class Outboards. That was his plane.



The Skybolt - a great little aerobatic plane that torque rolled me at the top of a loop - SURPRISE!



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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 9:13pm
Here is a picture of the cub, this also was an 85 HP version. Loved that airplane, everything is 60 mph. As you can see one of the great things is you can fly that around with the doors and windows open. Nothing better then hearing the wind whistle through all the cables with the engine idling as you are on short final.




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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 9:17pm
What could be down the ice hole?


Down we go


Well waddya know?


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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 9:24pm
Andy, that was such a cool find, Somewhere I saw a video of it completely restored, right before it's first flight.

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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 9:28pm
Here is another neat story, this is the famous "All American"



Definitely a tribute to the engineers who designed it, the folks who built it and the guys who flew it. My wife treated one of the great warriors who was associated with this plane (I can't remember if he was the radio man or grounds crew). Anyway he included the following description with the picture.



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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 9:46pm
At the air show



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Posted By: dochockey
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 11:17pm
I started to get my license then 911 happened,
They grounded everybody
I didn't go back

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Posted By: 76tique
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 11:34pm
Cool thread guys. Have dreamt of getting a pilots license since I was a kid but never followed up on it. I find the WWII bombers fascinating. My wife is originally from England, her parents live in a small village next to what was once a WWII airfield. When we went in the local pub I noticed a bunch of coins hammered into the oak beams above the fireplace. Her dad told me the bomber crews would each stick a coin in the cracks in the beam when they left for a mission. They would pull them out when they returned. If the coin was still in there after the mission returned, it would be hammered over to remain in the beam. There are 100's of coins still there. It was like touching history for me, now that was some risky business!

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Posted By: DrStevens
Date Posted: March-22-2012 at 11:47pm
Glass, that looks like a p-38, what's up?


Posted By: 76tique
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 12:44am
Pretty amazing story on the plane in the ice:


http://p38assn.org/glacier-girl.htm#history" rel="nofollow - Glacier Girl P-38

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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 2:40am
Tom the B17 and other WWII era bombers really made the difference. My neighbor had an uncle who was a tail gunner and was shot down. When he went over to visit the grave site, the local french town people came out to tell him the stories of the day his uncles B17 went down. He said it was amazing how much they appreciate what the US and those planes did.

Here are some more Warbird shots. I used to work pyro tech for the Tora, Tora, Tora show. This is a simulation of the bombing on Pearl Harbor. The "Zero's" would make low passes down the runway and infield and as they would go the pyro tech guys would set off charges simulating bombs. My introduction, "you want to blow stuff up?" Hell YA!

Amazing what a gallon of gasoline (for flash and smoke) some detonation cord (ignition) and a half stick of dynamite (the "thump") will do... Anyway this also provided a great opportunity for some pretty cool pictures.



This shot shows how low these guys actually were, sometimes they would be this low right over the top of us. Crazy to smell the fuel and oil of the planes the smoke from the burning gas, the explosions, the roar of the those beautiful radial engines and those magical Merlin V12's...



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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 8:44am
recently they have re-opened the Amelia earhart case, there is a pic with a tail sticking out of the water...(dont know if the last name is the correct spelling)

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Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 10:11am
This is my 1953 Cessna 180 after restoration, I bought it as a basket case in 1984, first flight was in 1992. Painted in Imron and still shines today, never waxed. Hard to see in the picture but there is a 1/4" gold pinstripe painted on between the black and red. The wheel pants stayed on for about 2 months, it has 8.50-6's now.



Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 10:34am
Russian An-2. 1000hp, 2 wings and a stand-up cabin. Burned 53 gph at cruise and I got paid to fly it, my fun meter was pegged every time.



Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 10:43am
I've been through the "Nine O None" a couple times. B17s are all mechanical. Cables running everywhere. We live near the Portland Jetport and it and a B24 came in right over my house. Pretty amazing looking up at them from that angle. You can hear those radial engines coming from quite a distance.

A lot of people served in the air corps during WWII. My father's best friend was a bombadier and died on a B17. My wife's father was a crew chief for one in England.


Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 10:45am
Another fun toy I got paid to play with, North American AT-6.



Back to work.


Posted By: politicallycorrect
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 10:46am
Here is our latest project before we took the wings off to drag her home.
1960 cessna 150 with a texas taildragger conversion.

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 10:53am
Pretty cool that you guys are into flying and restoring airplanes. I like looking at them, but I have no interest in going up in them.


Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 11:39am
Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Here is a picture of the cub, this also was an 85 HP version. Loved that airplane, everything is 60 mph. As you can see one of the great things is you can fly that around with the doors and windows open. Nothing better then hearing the wind whistle through all the cables with the engine idling as you are on short final.




Steve, that had to have been close to the ultralight experience. I had 50 hp (overkill, some were 27hp) 32 foot wingspan and a dry weight not much over 200 lbs. Top speed 55mph, power on stall of 18mph. It could take off and land in 150 feet. I think it could climb at 500 feet per minute, which is impressive when you are only going 22 mph. I too liked the quiet landings, power off and full forward stick to get it down to, and then stay on the ground.

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Posted By: OverMyHead
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 11:42am
Whenever I hopped in my car after a flight I would find myself getting to cruising speed and instinctively pulling back on the steering wheel. I miss flying.

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 1:02pm
This is kick butt stuff. Steve, will you fly over my parents (and my house) sometime and take some pics? I'd love some of the ski site

Also always been attracted to the B-17 flying fortress. They are amazing.

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Posted By: watrski
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 1:41pm
These are a few pics from 2009 when my wife and I took a couple week trip to Idaho. Trying to get out there again this summer.









This one is @ Johnson Creek. You hike up the mountain a couple miles and there is a bathtub with hot springs piped into it.



Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 2:27pm
Jack - More envy here! That 180 is absolutely Gorgeous, I have a buddy who has a 190 from the same era, it would be neat to see those two birds as a flight of two. Just how does one get hired to fly an AT-6 for pay? You have had some GREAT gigs!

Scott - That lil 150 is going to be a gem, looks like you need to make sure to include some Tundra tires on the rebuild and fly out and hook up with Pete (Watrski).

Pete - That trip is on my bucket list. Always wanted to try some of that mountain flying and a what a perfect plane to do it in, Great Shots in the mountains!

Bruce - You need to get up in one of these small planes, it is COMPLETELY different then even the smallest of commercial airliners. There is nothing like putting your hands on the yolk or stic and controlling where you go.

Mike - Next time I am in Dubuque with the plane, lets go up, you can take all the pics you want!

Kirk and Tom, you should at least give it a try, arrange an introductory flight, or if you are close to one of these guys (myself included) on this thread shoot them a PM, I bet they would give you a ride. Dave you too should get back in to it!

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 2:29pm
Never been in a little plane like these before. Always wanted to fly over dad's house and where we duck hunt/fish/camp a lot in the spring and fall (Green Island, IA). That'd be awesome Steve. I will definitely take you up on that next time you're...flying around

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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 5:06pm
Hot Doggin with a B-52 Bad Idea



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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 5:12pm
Andy, funny thing with a wing, when it is perpendicular to gravity, it doesn't create a whole lot of lift. The results are, will, obvious...

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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 5:16pm
Crashed in 1942 airmen only recently found in California glacier (yes California has glaciers!)

http://www.highsierratopix.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2226" rel="nofollow - Lost Airmen Found

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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 5:42pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22443386@N07/" rel="nofollow - more photos of the scene

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Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: March-23-2012 at 6:32pm
Originally posted by GlassSeeker GlassSeeker wrote:

What could be down the ice hole?


Down we go


Well waddya know?
glacier girl! seen her at reno 2 years ago, conpletly restored. very cool! i to am a pilot since 82, only owned 1 plane,70 cessna 150 aerobat. cool thread


Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: March-24-2012 at 7:44am
Come on you guys knew I would have one to tie footin and flyin together




or two



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Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-24-2012 at 9:50am
Cypress Gardens several years ago.





Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-24-2012 at 10:04am
Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Jack - More envy here! That 180 is absolutely Gorgeous, I have a buddy who has a 190 from the same era, it would be neat to see those two birds as a flight of two. Just how does one get hired to fly an AT-6 for pay? You have had some GREAT gigs!


I was maintaining a large private collection of aircraft, the An-2 and T-6 were used as photo platforms for air to air stills and video.


Posted By: wingwrench
Date Posted: March-24-2012 at 10:09am
Cypress Gardens



Posted By: dochockey
Date Posted: March-24-2012 at 1:19pm
Wow seeing all these photos is getting me interested again. It always amazes me how far one can see on a clear day, I'm on the west side of Mi and you could see downtown Chicago.     

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-24-2012 at 1:40pm
This reminds me of my old lessons way back in the late 70's. It took me 17 hours to solo but the airport I was at had only one hard runway so all of the 17 hours were crosswind take off's and landings. At least it taught me how to "crab"!! My instructor was an old WWII pilot who I'm sure had some conditions coming out of the war. When nervous, he would stutter. My very first hour up, he told me to land the plane - during the approach, he started to tell me to "p,p,p,pull back". Well, he ended up taking the control of the plane! Even then, we did a hard landing - I was expecting to see the struts pop up through the wings of that low wing Piper!!

The third hour up on take off, he cut the power on me and I had to do a soft field landing on the only cross field strip. That was a tough situation as well since at that point, I was never told anything about soft field landings.

Man, that guy was tough!!

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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-25-2012 at 12:13am
Andy, great picture, love the one of the guy footin next to the Decathalon, very cool.

Pete - that sounds like fun, man I have had some bone jarring landings too. All part of the process, did you end up getting your license?

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Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: March-25-2012 at 1:44am
Ahh planes are just plain!!
This is the real heavy iron.


Here's a pic from my office before I retired.

The bad guys just before they had a really bad day.

Don't bother running you'll just die tired!!!


Posted By: connorssons
Date Posted: March-25-2012 at 2:14am
Ahhh! now i know why thay call you gun driver, thats bad ass!


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-25-2012 at 7:55am
Steve,
No, I never went thought with getting the licence. The time and the money involved got in the way of more important things back then.

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Posted By: 76tique
Date Posted: March-25-2012 at 10:23am
Paul, sweet gunship!! Love the Steelers logo...(I lived in Pgh for a couple of years).

Steve - I've actually been lucky enough to spend a fair amount of time up in small aircraft (Cessna 172 and Hughes 300), when I was a teenager several of my parent's friends had airplanes. When I was 17 my mom talked our neighbor into letting me fly his 172, even let me try a stall recovery. That was a blast! Absolutely loved it, thought about trying for an aviation career when I was 18 but then went a different direction. Have always regretted it. I still fly R/C occasionally. Would still love to get my private pilots license but it never seems to get any cheaper

When I was 12, my best friend's dad had one of these:



He used to land it in my parent's backyard, pick me up and take my buddy and I around to buzz our friend's houses. I thought it was the coolest thing ever! Even let me take the cyclic and rudder pedals a few times. My parents stopped letting me go up with him after they found out he was flying down into abandoned quarries and doing autorotation practice with us...

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Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: March-26-2012 at 11:40am
Paul - Thanks for your service, I have the utmost respect for all of you folks who lay it on the line in defense of all that we have! Pretty cool pics, that belly shot is really a neat perspective. The target camera on those things must be pretty incredible, makes it look like your 200 feet away and I am sure it was a lot farther.

Paul - that little thing looks pretty cool. I have never spent any time in Helicopters, the whole concept seems kind of foreign too me, I mean I get how it works, I just can't believe it actually does...

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Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: March-26-2012 at 6:08pm

Helicopters can't really fly they just beat the air into submission.



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