Screwing into new wood/ Stringers
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Topic: Screwing into new wood/ Stringers
Posted By: Big Pappa
Subject: Screwing into new wood/ Stringers
Date Posted: May-10-2012 at 7:14pm
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So last night I cut my bilge access hole in the front in front of the ski pole. That got me to thinking about how I wanted to mount the cover, seat frames, latches, hinges, wire zip ties in the bilge. From the factory they were all screwed in but I am a little worried after all this work water proofing (As good as I can anyhow)to just drill a hole and screw into it. What does everyone else do? Drill a pilot hole, CPES the holes a couple of times, let dry, 5200 the holes and run the screw in? Are there any other ways out there? I have been working on this thing for long enough that I do not want water to have an option to get back under the floor or in the stringers if at any way possible.  ------------- http://bit.ly/Mghpvx" rel="nofollow - Big Pappa http://bit.ly/L4zRW0" rel="nofollow - My Project |
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Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: May-10-2012 at 7:33pm
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I counter sunk the lip of the battery box and used thick epoxy to glue it down. Unfortunately, with the driver seat and the other seats for that matter it’s pretty hard to seal the screws due to the carpet. So that ends up being the nature of the beast. As for the fuel lines and wiring harness I used the square mount zip ties glued with a hot glue gun. http://www.lowes.com/pd_292685-1781-45-1MBUVL_0__?productId=3128405&Ntt=zip+ties&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dzip%2Bties%26page%3D2&facetInfo=" rel="nofollow - http://www.lowes.com/pd_292685-1781-45-1MBUVL_0__?productId=3128405&Ntt=zip+ties&pl=1¤tURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dzip%2Bties%26page%3D2&facetInfo=  |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-10-2012 at 7:37pm
Yes, and I'd inject some epoxy after the CPES as well. If it plugs up your pilot hole, drill it again. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Big Pappa wrote:Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: May-10-2012 at 7:52pm
It would be pretty hard to do that for the seat bases and latches without making a mess of the carpet. Not to say it can't be done but I would hate to mess up my new carpet over some little screw holes. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-10-2012 at 9:07pm
 With the 5200, just put it on the screw threads. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Big Pappa
Date Posted: May-11-2012 at 1:35pm
I like this Idea if hot gluing these mounts on and zip tying to them. I think I am going to do that as well. How has it been holding up for you? As for the rest of the holes I guess I will just waterproof them the best I can and hope that is enough.  ------------- http://bit.ly/Mghpvx" rel="nofollow - Big Pappa http://bit.ly/L4zRW0" rel="nofollow - My Project |
Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: May-12-2012 at 5:31pm
| Don't know if this works or not, it would be easy to try though. Drill the hole, fill it with epoxy and then put a dab of grease or vasaline on the screw before you put it in. Supposedly that keeps the epoxy from attaching to the screw so it can be removed and coats the hole with epoxy at the same time. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-12-2012 at 7:11pm
Don, I don't feel this method is a good idea. The grease will contaminate the epoxy. It's more of a "back yard" method than anything. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: May-12-2012 at 8:38pm
| You're probably right, I don't have anything to test it on or with right now, but it would be easy enough for someone who's already working on something to giving a try. I would worry most that the screw would be stuck. An alternative test would be a hole larger that the screw so you could place it without turning it and mixing the epoxy and grease. That one might only work on floors otherwise the epoxy would run out. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-12-2012 at 9:22pm
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Don, Don't bother with the testing. The Gougeon brothers have already done it. For mechanical fastening with screws or even threaded fasteners, they recommend boring a hole 3 to 4 times the diameter of the fastener and filling it with epoxy using a high strength filler. Then, after curing, drill it for the pilot hole or in the case of a threaded fastener, drill the correct tap drill size and tap the epoxy. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: May-12-2012 at 9:40pm
| That would take care of it. I'm not planning on needing to do that anytime soon or possibly ever again. The boat with no rot keeps me plenty busy with no need to try that and I don't see the time or the wife agreeing to another project boat. We were happy though to run into our old boat last weekend and 5 years later she still looks as good as the day I finished her. |