Electronic Ignition Kits!
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Topic: Electronic Ignition Kits!
Posted By: 84starsandstripes
Subject: Electronic Ignition Kits!
Date Posted: July-15-2012 at 4:40pm
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How's it going guys!? I just picked up a 1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes and I'm looking to improve the starting of it. On both Correct Craft Fan and the Mastercraft forums it seems like people either love the kits or hate them. I'm more than likely going to give a kit a try so I just wanted to see which kit everyone here likes. Seems like the Pertronix kit is popular but I do see the Hot-Spark kit appear every now and then. Aside from that, any recommendations on getting this running perfect?! Any experience with these guys? http://www.nationalcarburetors.com/marine/fourbarrelholley.aspx Some Pics:   ------------- 1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes PCM 351 |
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Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: July-15-2012 at 6:41pm
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Nice find, I really love the look of those old stars & stripes in the water. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-15-2012 at 7:58pm
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Before spending the money on a EI conversion that are prone to problems (yes, I'm one that doesn't believe in them) why don't you check to see if your engine is equipped with the ballast resistor bypass during cranking. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: July-16-2012 at 1:59am
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I concur with Pete Without the bypass, the coil enerize is further pulled down by the undersized, aging wire from the dash, the alternator energize, and the electric choke. Plus the ballast and drop from the starter, its a wonder they start at all. Very nice boat! ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: 84starsandstripes
Date Posted: July-16-2012 at 4:45pm
Thanks, definitely looking forward to dropping her in soon.
How exactly can I look for this to confirm? New plugs will be going in today and I ordered an EI Conversion with Coil and an entire distributor from Pertronix. I figure I'll keep the original Prestolite in the boat incase anything happens! Regardless, I do want to check the ballast resistor that you're talking about though. ------------- 1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes PCM 351 |
bhectus wrote:Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-16-2012 at 4:53pm
Mike, You will have a second small terminal on the starter relay. When it's energized during cranking, this is wired to the coil by passing the resistor and providing full voltage to the coil. However, now that you have ordered the conversion, follow the instructions that come with it. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 84starsandstripes
Date Posted: July-16-2012 at 6:26pm
Thanks Pete, we'll see how it goes! ------------- 1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes PCM 351 |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: July-16-2012 at 11:20pm
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E spark (mallory) seems to be the best. Thats the one i use (86 2001). My brothers (Pertronix) was bad out of the box.(84 2001) When you mount the new coil try not to "lay in down" 30* angle or better. My friend has a baby blue and white Stars & Strips. Where C/C guys here But thats a NICE boat!  ------------- - waterdog - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3896&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - 78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: Mick88
Date Posted: July-17-2012 at 12:23am
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When you mount the new coil try not to "lay in down" 30* angle or better. Why is this a good idea? |
Posted By: Lakeview
Date Posted: July-17-2012 at 12:31am
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MSD makes an epoxy filled vibration proof Flame Thrower coil that I've recently installed-excellent product and great spark-The oil filled coils are not designed for the marine environment,but all of the older boats came with them. ------------- Lakeview 1992 Barefoot Nautique 1967 Barracuda SS 1967 Chris Craft Cavalier |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: July-17-2012 at 12:48am
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An oil filled coil will overheat when on it's side. There has to be some air inside the can to allow for thermal expansion (not completely full of oil). When you lay it on the side, some of the windings are not immersed in oil & don't get cooled. Did you get the EST dizzy? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: brittcrowell
Date Posted: July-17-2012 at 2:37am
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Nice Nasty Raft ------------- '93 Ski Nautique (needs new interior) |
Posted By: 84starsandstripes
Date Posted: July-17-2012 at 6:35pm
Thanks for the info, we'll see how this unit works out! When you talk about the coil, is the stock coil bracket at that angle or should I adjust it? I definitely am a Nautique fan, I absolutely love the 2001's but this hull was entirely too clean to pass on. Thanks for the kind words and information everyone! ------------- 1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes PCM 351 |
Posted By: 84starsandstripes
Date Posted: July-24-2012 at 1:50pm
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Need some help! Alright guys, I went to toss in my Pertronix Distributor today and had some issues going in. Towards the end we saw what we think was our issue when we went back in with the original but before I try again I wanted to check with you guys first. I double checked the Pertronix part number and it seems like I definitely have the right model! I went to toss it in and the spline at the bottom looks bigger than the factory. If any one has experience with this distributor, is it supposed to be like this?    ------------- 1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes PCM 351 |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: July-24-2012 at 2:11pm
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I wouldn't think it would be able to fit with the bigger gear on there... The circumference of the gear would have to be the same. Something is wrong, but not sure what. I'm sure someone on here would know what motor the bigger gear goes to. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-24-2012 at 3:42pm
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I didn't realize you were going to change the whole thing,I thought you were just going to get the points replacement. Since it doesn't fit it's your chance to return it and go with a http://www.performancedistributors.com/index.html" rel="nofollow - D.U.I system recommended by others in the know here. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: July-25-2012 at 12:51am
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It sure looks like you got a distributor for a 351 CLEVELAND not a 351 Windsor. If I remember right the Windsor gear is about 1 1/4 inches in diameter and the Cleveland gear is about 1 4/10 inches. The 351 Cleveland also fits the 429 and 460 engines. The 351W fits nothing else. You should be able to get Pertronix to exchange it or give you the right gear to make it work. Ken O |
Posted By: 84starsandstripes
Date Posted: July-27-2012 at 11:09am
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Accidentally ordered one for a Cleveland!!!!! Thanks for the info guys, working on getting a new one for the Windsor now. Gary, thanks for sending that DUI system over, I might have to check that out. ------------- 1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes PCM 351 |