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Show Me Your Spare Tire Mount (early 90's SN)

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Topic: Show Me Your Spare Tire Mount (early 90's SN)
Posted By: gsyogi
Subject: Show Me Your Spare Tire Mount (early 90's SN)
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 4:35am
I purchased a '94 SN (shown on its trailer) and am having a spare tire and hanger mounted to the trailer on Monday (welded). I am looking for the proper placement. I thought I saw an earlier string on this topic; however, I was unable to locate it. As always, thanks in advance!



Also, does anyone have the precise specifications for the "steps" that originally sat in front of and behind the fenders on this trailer—I would like to make and replace these!?



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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 8:18am
Brian,
I'm curious why you want the mount welded on? There are several bolt on aftermarket brackets available. I'd say the best suited for your trailer is the one that angles the tire outward so it would fit near the bow on the tongue opposite the jack stand just forward of the "ski Nautique" tag on the trailer.

Take a look through the diary section. You'll most likely find some pictures.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 10:22am
Brian,
Regarding the length, I know they are special to the trailer but I never realized they were 7 leaf.

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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 11:18am
Just make sure you have enough length to it on the outrigger post. Mine is bolt-on RH side as far forward as I can get it and on steep ramps the bow of the boat will ride on it ever so slightly. I put metal on my side steps.



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Posted By: LilRichard
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 12:25pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Brian,
I'm curious why you want the mount welded on? There are several bolt on aftermarket brackets available.


Hey - something we agree on!


Posted By: 1989SN2001
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 12:50pm


Here's mine. I like the way it is mounted, but not where it is. Everything is great until the truck and trailer are at more than about a 30 degree angle to each other, and then I can't open the tailgate. I'm going to move it this winter.


Posted By: dmiracle
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 2:06pm
Brian,

Regarding the steps, a lot of members on here have replaced them with diamond plate as a permanent, no rot solution.

I personally prefer the look of the carpeted step so when I restored my trailer, I cut replacements out of doug-fir. I did mine in one piece which may or may not have been correct (the PO had already removed the rotted originals when I purchased).

I don't have dimensions because the boat is up at the lake, but here are some photos. I also added 6 coats of spar varnish after cutting all holes, etc...before adding carpet.

One thing to be careful with is the curvature angle of the very front of the step where it hugs the rail. I did not get mine perfect and there's a very minor gap there that's hardly noticeable with the carpet.

Also, Ram-lin is still around and will sell you the original carpet and new fenders if you need them. You can find a bit cheaper elsewhere but they won't pass the Pete test :).

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Doug


Posted By: dmiracle
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 2:09pm
Final install....

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Doug


Posted By: dmiracle
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 2:12pm
One more....



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Doug


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 3:04pm
That trailer is beautiful.

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Posted By: pepatrick
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 5:35pm
Glad to see another Avalanche pulling a Nautique in Forsyth County..



Posted By: gsyogi
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 5:46pm
Doug,

Wow. Your trailer is stunning! I would like to restore mine to look JUST LIKE yours ... any chance you could share how you got it to that point? Too bad you didn't make a template for those steps! I will see what I can come up with, but again, I am curious about the steps that you took to get that trailer to look like it does ... fantastic (feel free to PM).


Posted By: gsyogi
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 7:07pm
Peter,

I looked through the diaries ... great tip. Looks like there are several mounting options (I am inclined to prefer the position in front of the bow, directly across from the trailer jack). As for the welding, I have a "top notch" local trailer outfit that suggested that the welded option would perhaps be more secure? Any concerns other than increased cost with going that route. Alternatively, could you (or perhaps another CC Fan member) point me to a manufacturer or part # of a bolt-on mount? As always, thanks in advance!


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 7:13pm
http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Cargo-Control/Dutton-Lainson/DL22145.html" rel="nofollow - Offset and angled spare tire mount

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Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 8:09pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Cargo-Control/Dutton-Lainson/DL22145.html" rel="nofollow - Offset and angled spare tire mount


Do you know of one made for 6 lug rims.

I know this could be re drilled but it would be nice to take one out of the box and use it.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 8:19pm
Originally posted by harddock harddock wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Cargo-Control/Dutton-Lainson/DL22145.html" rel="nofollow - Offset and angled spare tire mount


Do you know of one made for 6 lug rims.

I know this could be re drilled but it would be nice to take one out of the box and use it.

Kevin,
Even though it doesn't state 6 lugs, the picture looks like there are 3 holes drilled at 120 degrees from each other. I give etrailer a call.

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Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: August-24-2012 at 11:03pm
http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Cargo-Control/Fulton/FHDSTC0101.html

Sorry about the lazy link. Bought this mount for my 93 Sport Trailer. Painted it black and mounted on the starboard side, up front under the bow. It was recommended by TRBenj and worked great for me.

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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: August-25-2012 at 2:23am



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Posted By: gsyogi
Date Posted: September-28-2012 at 1:37am
Started work on my '94 trailer over the weekend ... my hope is to produce a trailer that looks as good as Marty's or Doug's; anyway, here is a picture of the cardboard templates that I crafted—next step marine plywood. I made a tracing of the templates on some craft paper if anyone is interested in them ... (my feeble contribution to this site as I am learning)!?



Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: October-11-2012 at 2:28am
Brian,

I'd love a copy of those templates. I'll send you a PM.

Kevin

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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 3:24pm
Bringing this thread back from the dead a bit... While Kroundy had these templates, I scanned them and made a CAD file/PDF copy of them... I don't think I can post them here, unless they can go in the reference section, but I am happy to share so you don't have to pay the $10 shipping. Since diamond plate would not want to hang over the edge of the trailer frame, this will likely work only as a rough template for that application.


Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 3:38pm

I am VERY interested....... Need to adjust for a V drive setup.... 91 BFN.

Thanks man!

Steve

Before:





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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 3:42pm
Steve - PM your email... its a pretty large file,    if you have a fedex/kinko's or a large format printer, you should be able to get them printed pretty easily.


Trailer layout looks to be really similar to the pattern.


Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 3:42pm
Marty:

How did you do the Diamond Plate? I am toying with the idea of diamond plate ..... got my plastic bow stops already........



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Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 3:52pm
This reminds me - Brian, I need your mail address. Sent you a PM. I'm ready to return your templates, but your address was covered up by a sticker and I can't read all the numbers.

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Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by Air206 Air206 wrote:


I am VERY interested....... Need to adjust for a V drive setup.... 91 BFN.

Thanks man!

Steve

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I've got a v-drive, curious, why would one need to adjust for a v drive setup?

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Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 8:07pm
Pretty sure the side steps are a little different.

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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 8:37pm
We'll see - I now have the template...

The guide posts are different on the V-drive and I'll report on any other differences.........

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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 8:43pm
Ok after looking for a bit...... they are quite different back of the fender and the spacing b/n fender and bunk is much narrower........

I will work on a second template....... when the trailer comes back from blasting and paint, I need your help Dreaming.... scanning and digitizing......

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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 10:49pm
Steve - No problem... I can scan and digitize; however, I'll need an original to do that from. If you can scan it locally and just email me a JPG file or a PDF file and some dimensions, it may be cheaper than snail mail for a tube of paper. I'm happy to do it either way.        For others who go down this road in the future, I think it would be really helpful to have the outline of the trailer frame (for cutting diamond plate) and then a second outline for the overhanging wood/carpet style.


Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:16am
Cool! Will do..... Thanks!

Might be a few months, though......

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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 2:01am
whenever, works just fine for me


Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 6:59pm
I found this what I believe to be a tire mount from my old 71' CC trailer. Let me know if anyone wants it ??? It was mounted to one of the uprights on the bow stop.



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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: January-02-2013 at 3:27pm
PM me what you want for it Mojo.

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Posted By: ezim
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 1:31pm
Anyway I could get the tracings as mentioned previously. Trailer steps are in sad condition (multiple pieces) and winter project to recondition trailer is planned. Thanks.


Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 7:02pm
Hi Ezim,
   welcome to CCF... I am happy to send you the PDF files, but since you're so new here, I want to be sure you're not a spammer etc, before I Email you directly...   Tell us about your boat, and put up some pictures PM me with your email details so I can get you hooked up


Posted By: ezim
Date Posted: February-07-2013 at 6:41pm
Sorry for delayed response, got busy and just was able to get back. PM you with email address. Thanks.


Posted By: gsyogi
Date Posted: May-01-2013 at 9:57pm
Ok, I finally put my step templates to use (great work as to KRoudy and Dreaming for doing more with them than I ever could) … next step, Spar varnish. I need some help with carpet. Although I have been in touch with the folks at Ram-Lin (I even sent them a tracing of my fenders), they are unable/unwilling to sell to anyone other than a Correct Craft dealership. As Denver, CO lost its only CC dealership last year, it appears that I am out of luck. I would to find a suitable substitute? As for the fenders, I will likely have them fabricated locally.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-02-2013 at 6:07am
Brian,
Since you are carpeting, skip the spar varnish as it's not going to give you the needed moisture protection. Make sure you have all holes predrilled and give the ply several coats of CPES or thin down some epoxy resin yourself.There are some threads on reducing your own epoxy with solvent. Then a couple coats of regular epoxy resin will give the ply the needed moisture protection. You will be amazed at how much of the thin epoxy gets sucked into the ply edges.

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=1269&familyName=Smiths+Cold+CPES+Epoxy" rel="nofollow - CPES at Jamestown

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Posted By: gsyogi
Date Posted: May-02-2013 at 8:23pm
Thanks Peter ... I read up on the CPES and I know that you are right. How much product do you think I need to do the job: the 2 quart set? As I am new to the world of epoxy, what would you recommend for "regular epoxy resin" that you refer to for the final couple of coats? Thanks in advance. As an FYI, I got some great news from Ram-Lin today that they WILL sell directly to me!


Posted By: gsyogi
Date Posted: June-09-2013 at 12:31am
An update: Carpeted one step today. IMHO, upholstery is an art form—I faired ok and am pleased with the results. Note to Kevin, et. al. who have worked off my cardboard templates ... I realized several days ago that the "slots" for the trailer supports (the rectangular cuts in my boards that are perpendicular to the trailer frame) were too narrow to allow me to wrap the carpet and staple along the underside. FYI, note that I realized this AFTER I had completed the CPES and Spar varnish treatments—I had to one-up Doug and did both CPES and 5 (FIVE) coats of Spar … ha … seriously, thanks for all your help Doug! Anyway, I wanted to do things correctly, so I recut the width to 1 ¾” to allow for wrapping (however, after today’s experience, I would make sure to widen them to at least 2” to allow you to grab sufficient material) and reopened the CPES and Spar (same number of coats). Anyway, the photos show my results:

Also, I purchased a Surebonder 9600 pneumatic staple gun for this and the bunk board project—can’t say enough good things about this $25 (Amazon) gun … worked like a charm (along with Arrow Monel/Rustproof ½” staples, #508M1).





Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: June-09-2013 at 1:58pm
Brian, that looks great! Well-done. I must say you have impeccable timing as I painted the trailer with it's first coat yesterday and also went out to purchase my plywood. After the next coat of paint I was going to place the templates onto the trailer for a quick trial fit before beginning to lay them out on the ply.

Your note on the size of the slots makes sense. If the plywood is 3/4" thick, and the slots were 1-1/2" wide (2 x 0.75), there would be no carpet material to wrap around to the backside. It's a little stretchy, but not very much.

I purchased some basic black carpet locally for the steps.

I have a question about the bunk rails. I did not take any pictures when I removed the rails on my trailer and have only a faint recollection of how the carpet was put onto the rails. I THINK it was a combination of glue/staples something like this diagram (forgive my crude sketch)?



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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: June-09-2013 at 2:04pm
I would not put 2 layers of carpet on - it will hold water.    It is better to bevel the wood such that there are no sharp corners to wear thru the carpet, IMO.

Stapling on the side is the way to go. I used a hand stapler followed by a hammer to set them all the way in.

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Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: June-09-2013 at 11:29pm
The wood is beveled. The stock wood that came on the trailer is still in very good shape.

I agree with your thought about holding water, but I'm also more than 50% sure that the two-layer idea was stock. If it was (can somebody answer that question?) should I keep it original or not?

Kevin

PS - finished painting today. Going to run a new set of wiring and get going on the side steps.

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Posted By: dmiracle
Date Posted: June-10-2013 at 12:01am
Haha! Looking great Brian!!

Yes, you've upped the ante, I did not use CPES and am now wishing I had. Oh well, save those templates, I'll probably need them in a few years.

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Posted By: gsyogi
Date Posted: June-10-2013 at 1:43am
Doug, thanks ... I just hope our rig turns out somewhere nearly as nice as yours did! No worries about the templates ... thanks to Kevin, et. al., they are now (at least as I understand) preserved in a digital format. Kevin, I have attached a photo of my new boards and, as I ordered my carpet from Ram-Lin, I can verify that stock was a double setup (see the photo below). Although I understand the logic behind stapling from the sides, I am going to do it the "stock" way and "double up" electing to run the staples under the boards (thanks Marty)—also, NO glue ... if you do the "double" use staples (or, as I have tried to up the ante again, I am going to use some recessed copper large-head nails) ... I realize that I am doing so at my own peril (Chris is probably right about the long-haul)!!!

Good luck.





Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: June-10-2013 at 12:50pm
Nice job on the boards. Those look very similar to the stock configuration.

Why no glue on the inner layer?

Kevin

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Posted By: gsyogi
Date Posted: June-10-2013 at 1:58pm
Kevin,

Again I am a newbie trying to things correctly ... but, as I understand it, the issue with not using glue involves several things: 1) most adhesives won't adhere to treated lumber (I realize this may not be an issue for you) ... also, feel free to do what you wish, but I faced the same issue with my bunks ... they were perhaps "OK" to reuse; however, the guys here encouraged me to replace them while I had the chance ... it was an easy project and only involved $20 worth of treated lumber and a rental charge for a portable table saw ... FYI—now I know that they are right, 2) the adhesive may give up its hold and then you end up with bumps and puckers under your top layer, and 3) I will suggest this is the most important reason, you may end up having to re-carpet the bunks at some point in the future—staples/tacks are a lot easier to remove than peeling off glued carpet!


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: June-10-2013 at 5:29pm
A little tip when mounting the boards to the trailer rails is to start at the front and use the length of the board as a lever to make the curve. A rachet strap and good clamps will also help.


Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: June-17-2013 at 4:59pm
An update on my trailer rebuild, including photos of how the template is working. The scan and print that Dreaming did are great! I'm ready to trim to fit and start sawing some plywood.

http://kroundysboat.wordpress.com/2013/06/16/trailer-work/" rel="nofollow - My boat blog

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Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow


Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: July-14-2013 at 1:11pm
Here's an http://kroundysboat.wordpress.com/2013/07/13/it-moves/" rel="nofollow - update for any who are interested.

Yes - I removed the trailer jack and replaced it with a new one. The OEM jack looked OK until you put weight on it and then it really bent over.



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