Rare birds for car lovers
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Topic: Rare birds for car lovers
Posted By: john b
Subject: Rare birds for car lovers
Date Posted: October-21-2012 at 4:19am
I went to my Shelby Dodge car club meeting today and these two birds flew in unannounced. I don't remember seeing two together any time recently. They are not clones and the green one is all original and unrestored.  ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
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Posted By: davidg
Date Posted: October-21-2012 at 12:14pm
When the Dodge Daytona and Plymouth Superbird were introduced in the late 60's, the dealers couldn't give them away. Nobody wanted one of those ugly-arsed cars witht the big wing on the back. Many sat languishing in the back of dealer lots. Today, they are worth BIG $$$$. Wished I would have had a few extra grand laying around I could have invested in one of those. Better than buying a good stock 
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Posted By: mark c
Date Posted: October-21-2012 at 12:33pm
| Thats at least a half a million dollars parked there. The orange one needs to lose the extra stripes running down the side of the car though. Hardly ever see one at a car show, let alone two. Had a chance to buy a 383 4 speed bench seat bird, back in the 70's. They were always just a little to much money to buy, and now they are WAY to much money to buy. |
Posted By: Keuka
Date Posted: October-21-2012 at 1:05pm
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I know where one of these sits in a barn just wasting away. I am looking for a picture I have. I will post when I find it. David ------------- 86 Martinique |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: October-21-2012 at 2:01pm
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Posted By: john b
Date Posted: October-21-2012 at 2:13pm
The bird with a 383 in the 70s had a heart transplant, which was quite common. Superbirds had three engine options: the 426 Hemi V8 engine, the 440 Super Commando with a single 4-barrel carburetor, or the 440 Super Commando Six Barrel with three two-barrel carburetors. Only 135 models were fitted with the 426 Hemi. The green one is a six barrel (3- 2barrel) with a bench seat, the Orange one is a 4 barrel with bucket seats. I agree, it needs a correct paint job, the stripes are hideous. The guy bought it that way recently and has just been driving it this summer until he sends it in for a restoration. Maybe they could put a hitch on it while its in, it would be a great CC tow vehicle. ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
mark c wrote:Posted By: john b
Date Posted: October-21-2012 at 2:19pm
Wow Marty, that blue one is beautiful.. err, ugly,,err beautiful, oh, you know what I mean, I like it, its not yours, is it? It's interesting how things changed so rapidly after these cars were built. Most of the 134 cubic inch Shelby cars built in the mid 80s to early 90s at the meeting / chili cook off are faster than the birds. Today is the last club outing at Great Lakes Dragaway. I will not be able to attend. I was reminded that the rose bushes will not trim themselves. I ask you, which is better, the delicate aroma of a fresh picked rose, or burning rubber and racing fuel? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIivO7u91Oo" rel="nofollow - Here's what I'm missing ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-22-2012 at 11:59am
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Yeah Mopar!!! John are you a Shelby guy??? I had CSX-T #524 since I was 15 years old up untill this year. Project I didn't have the time or cash to finish so I let her go.. :(. Turbo Dodge cars are funnnnn to drive. A friend of ours with way to much money to blow just finished a car called project blackbird. It started from a nice 70 drop top roadrunner. (personally I would not do that to a un molested #'s matching car butttt) It turned out to be one of the best looking cars I have seen for a while. There is a restoration shop in town (whom of which we are good friends with) that do some of the best mopar resto in the nation. The car ended up black on black on black with black doggie dish wheels and redlines. It also sports a 6 speed and a fuel injected 472 hemi that looks carbureted untill you pull the air cleaner off. I can't find a picture of it but he actually drives the car. Fyi check out the other mopar post im about to make. |
Posted By: Keuka
Date Posted: October-23-2012 at 5:54pm
Here are some pictures I took last summer 70 Superbird  440GTX convertible  This Road Runner is 4spd with air grabber hood. There was also another Road Runner convert that I can't find the picture of, a 340 Duster, Li'l Red Express truck and a big ugly mid 70s Road Runner. He had others but lost some in a fire several years ago. David ------------- 86 Martinique |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: October-23-2012 at 6:03pm
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Is he in our neighborhood? I could help him out with a little resto work and execise his fleet for him regularly ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-23-2012 at 6:21pm
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I have a friend that bought a yellow 70 Hemi Cuda back when we were about 18 years old. He never even drove it, just put it is his garage and it still sits there today. Even at 18 years old he knew that car would be crazy valuable some day. We always bugged him to pull it out so we could cruise but he new we'd probably wrap it around a light pole. ------------- |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: October-23-2012 at 6:43pm
been there twice with my vette....  they are always in the middle of the streets  ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-23-2012 at 8:06pm
Mercy Keuka!!! You found quite the collection. Black is my all time favorite color on a 70 Roadrunner and 4 speed air grabber to boot!!! Anyone ever seen an air grabber operate at idle in a cammed car.... Super slow and cool  A lemon twist bird!! And a PP1 red 67 DROP DOP X!!! I need to meet this guy. Dad used to tow his red and white 74 sn with a 79 lil red..... I was 5 years old and furious when he sold that rig... Ever saw a Midnite Express? Black metallic paint and super rare. I haven't seen a real one in person to this day. |
Posted By: Keuka
Date Posted: October-23-2012 at 11:19pm
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These all belong to an older farmer that lives about 15 miles from me. I took these picture when I was at their house for one of their daughter's weddings. I am still looking for the picture of the 69 Roadrunner converible white with black top. This gentleman has owned these for a long time. He had always owned Plymouths and never sold them. Growing up in the 70s and 80s, I remember many of his cars driven daily and run into the ground. NY winter really take a toll. ------------- 86 Martinique |
Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: October-24-2012 at 1:11am
Hey Keuka! Gotta love a Keuka barnfind. Before he bought an old hangar at PY airport, in winter my bro used to switch his floatplane to big bush wheels and keep it up at one of the vineyards on top of the bluff. The old farmer died a few years back and they found in one of the grape sheds a perfect mint-condition circa-1960 BMW boxer with sidecar. What a find, wish I'd had the money at the time! As I recall, Walter Taylor also had some beauties up at Bully Hill Winery that he drove before he got paralyzed. ------------- 1974 Southwind 18 1975 Century Mark II |
Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: October-24-2012 at 1:53am
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Apologies for getting back into a boat discussion here, but my little 16' 7" 1975 Century has a Chrysler 360, never rebuilt, & still runs like a bat out of hell. Go Mopar!! ------------- 1974 Southwind 18 1975 Century Mark II |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-24-2012 at 11:16am
| A 360 is what makes my car shake. They actually used fuelinjected 360's in Hydrodynes in the mid 90's. They would be torque monsters. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-24-2012 at 12:30pm
Post some up! All I seem to have seen were 351s ------------- |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-24-2012 at 12:32pm
| Don't know of any at the moment Hollywood but When I was on the prowl for my boat years ago I saw a red one and a blue one with Injected 360 magnums. I'll look around. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: October-26-2012 at 3:28pm
Enjoy this one may need to go back home.....  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corvette-Roadster-1954-Straight-6-Blue-Flash-Very-Rare-40-year-dry-storage-/130786725888?_trksid=e11010.m8&_trkparms=algo%3DMW%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3016169062372761073&_qi=RTM1240446" rel="nofollow - 54 Vett ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-26-2012 at 4:31pm
| Whoops. Should be called a Blue Flame six. |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: October-27-2012 at 3:46pm
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Some of you with performance cars will like this, I'm sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbf4g4sRTc0" rel="nofollow - nice pass It is nice to know that almost everyone who passes you is doing it with your permission. It makes me want my turbo minivan (mini) back! ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: November-15-2012 at 7:32pm
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Hi-Jack of the thread- 160,000 miles and the Timing Gear finally went boom-boom on the 83 Monte Carlo SS. Took me about 8 hours last Saturday the 10th- including stopping and going to pick-up the parts.  So I got to drive my Dad's Hot Rod for a couple of days  78 El Camino   ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: November-15-2012 at 7:40pm
   ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: November-15-2012 at 7:50pm
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Hey Marty, did you convince him that you needed a triuckster to pick up the timing set? ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: November-16-2012 at 11:49am
| Poor Challenger Marty! |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: November-16-2012 at 12:57pm
  The ONLY ONE that Matters  ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: Foot_Fungus
Date Posted: November-16-2012 at 1:10pm
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Hey Keuka, think your neighbor would want to sell me the lil red express? Tell him it would be coming home to Mopar for a resto. ------------- '94SN Restoration underway... |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: November-16-2012 at 1:16pm
| 71 satellite, 69 bee, and King Richard. |
Posted By: Keuka
Date Posted: November-16-2012 at 2:41pm
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Foot I don't know the guy that well but he hasn't been known to sell off anything. I am trying to cut one from the herd without much luck. I only took pictures of the ones in the barns. There were numerous cars sitting around outside or in the woods. A couple older Valiants, Olds 88 from the 50s. The Lil Red Express sits outside next to a barn. He also has several old tractors from John Deere, Allis Chalmers and Frmall that are still used regularly. David ------------- 86 Martinique |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: November-16-2012 at 8:22pm
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This was the best we could do in Australia with the Mopar power. The Valiant Charger E49 specially built for our Bathurst 1000 race. They were a great looking car and they also ran a catchy advertising program when first released. My older brother had a mustard colour 265 which he modified quite a bit and it was a beast. (13.8 quarter mile car) ------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: November-17-2012 at 1:22am
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Not as prestigious as some of these early mopars but here's my 72 Duster about 30 years ago. 12.5 Cr and dual quads on a tunnel ram. Lot's of fun on a friday night. beers, babes and street racing. Man we thought we were on top of the world at 21.  I have picture somewhere of a 69 Roadrunner after it flipped at 90 mph. It was a brand new restoration and the first night out it rolled in a street race. I wrecked mine shortly after that picture, realized we were all on borrowed time so not too long after that we all sold our hot rods and bought ski boats and here we are. ------------- |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 6:54pm
All this Mopar Talk- got me to thinking...... So I went in Storage and found what I was thinking about  And then the funny thing about it- Monday night the American Pickers bought the same item I have  Do any of you young-ins know what this is ?????    Also here is what one of the customers I used to deliver to while at CarQuest builds... http://www.retroridesbyrich.com/" rel="nofollow - Retro Rides by Rich Oakley ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 7:11pm
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The Ausie Chargers were the inline 6 Hemi! You see one every few years at the Mopar nationals. Alan, that is a pretty Duster. Blue, white stripe, white interior! |
Posted By: kytom2
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 7:26pm
My Sunday evening ride. ------------- |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 7:31pm
Funny this Richard Petty stuff came up. I have a pit board that was given to me by an engine builder I know. He sponsored and built engines for many race car teams. He told me this is a pit board used by Richard Petty back in the days before telemetry. Although I am not a NASCAR fan I hung it in my garage as a decoration. It is hand painted and obviously used.  ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 7:37pm
A Ford guy would say that Camaro is parked in an appropriate parking space. Me, I like them all! Beautiful car. ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: frydaddy
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 7:50pm
Here is my Bird... ------------- Frydaddy |
Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 7:54pm
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Do any of you young-ins know what this is ????? Marty, you talkin' about the car....or the vinyl record? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2798 - 93 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 8:13pm
No Jim I'm thinking Richard Petty without a hat! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: November-21-2012 at 8:59pm
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Gary, you are right...and no glasses too! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2798 - 93 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Keuka
Date Posted: December-02-2012 at 4:15pm
 Here is the picture I couldn't find before. A couple roadrunners and a 340 Duster. The white Roadrunner in the center has a black convertible top. This barn is right next to the barn that houses the black Roadrunner, yellow Superbird and red GTX pictured earlier in the thread. David ------------- 86 Martinique |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: December-02-2012 at 4:22pm
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That collection will make for some very happy collectors when the estate is settled someday. ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: December-04-2012 at 5:01pm
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Please Please take me there.... That roadrunner on the left is one of the most ugly Mopars ever built. |
Posted By: uk1979
Date Posted: January-07-2013 at 7:07pm
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Something been put together for all the Holman Moody Guys......it would look great pulling your HM boat, the wife won't mind you have a few weeks with shipping to talk her round....its only 20 miles away from me. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321048396522?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649" rel="nofollow - 1964 Galaxie 500 ------------- Lets have a go 56 Starflite 77 SN 78 SN 80 BFN |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-07-2013 at 7:49pm
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Back in 05, I was at the Barrett Jackson Auction in AZ. There was a purple Hemi Super Bird there and it Sold for $425,000 . Love me some old Mopars. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: January-07-2013 at 8:26pm
If I didn't already have the 1965 Fred Lorenzen Holman Moody car in my driveway I may have been interested. ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-07-2013 at 8:31pm
| Great looking Ford. I'm not a big NSCAR fan, but have watched races occationally since the '60s. When did NASCAR go from using stock production cars to to custom race cars like they use today? |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: January-07-2013 at 8:56pm
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I am not a NASCAR fan either, but I believe the answer to your question is Fred Lorenzen's 1965 Ford Galaxie was the last "stock" car raced in NASCAR. He won the 1965 Daytona 500 in it. The research I have done indicates that Fred was practicing for the 65 Daytona and crashed his car with no back up available. Holman & Moody bought a 1965 Ford Galaxie from a Ford dealership near Daytona and their builders, Sully (Sullivan) & McCall stripped it and built it into the race car he won with. For some time prior to this racing teams bought "rollers" from the manufacturers to build into race cars. Why would I bother to research this? Several reasons. I believe Fred Lorenzen was the first driver from the north to win Daytona, and he lived in Elmhurst Illinois, the town adjacent to mine. My first car was also a 1965 Ford Galaxie 500XL 427 side oiler (obviously not a Holman Moody engine) 4 speed convertible. I got it when I was 15 and learned to drive in that and a 64 Beetle. I feel like my H/M Mustang was destined to find me since I was aware of some of the racing heritage and had owned a car similar to some they built. I am sure there are some followers out there with real NASCAR history knowledge and I would appreciate it if they would correct me on any errors in my research. I have posted some of this story before. Here is the only photo I can find of my 65 Galaxie. It is pretty clear when it was taken by the McGovern Shriver bumper on my friend's MGB.  ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: January-08-2013 at 7:19pm
Oh, I forgot to mention, my #28 is the compact model. It fits my budget. ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-10-2013 at 11:05pm
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There was something about that picture, but the car looked great anyway. You're a good modeler if you built it. That '67 wood be a nice car to have today. I worked for a guy that had a Fairlane with a 427 in it and he claimed it would light the tires up in 4th at 35 mph just by putting it to the floor. |
Posted By: john b
Date Posted: January-10-2013 at 11:20pm
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I am much better at clicking the "buy it now" button than modeling. It is a Racing Legends die cast model and it drove up in a brown delivery truck. I guess someone didn't like the photos as they have disappeared. I was hoping someone would get a laugh out of them. A didn't know a Fairlane could be ordered with a 427. Holman Moody built one and it was auctioned off a while back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYpXG_EDfn0" rel="nofollow - Holman Moody Fairlane ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-11-2013 at 10:50am
I dont think anyone would have removed them John. Either the site's photo hosting is being glitchy or you accidentally deleted them yourself, Im guessing? ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-29-2013 at 10:39pm
This engine is a 413 that is in a 63 Chrysler. Pretty wild intake.
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Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: January-29-2013 at 11:05pm
Name These Mopars .......   ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-29-2013 at 11:26pm
I think I know what the one closest to the camera is-- ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: mark c
Date Posted: January-29-2013 at 11:28pm
Green one in the bottom picture looks like one of these. My old 70 AAR after it was restored in 04, 2 build sheets under the back seat, neither one belonging to my car. Top picture is a 71 Cuda Convert, bottom is 70 AAR cuda, Black one is a 71 Cuda (never could figure out which cars got those front fender louvers and which didn't), next green one looks like another 70 cuda - weren't the elastomeric bumpers 70, and 71 only? |
Posted By: MartyMabe
Date Posted: May-07-2013 at 11:02pm
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http://www.paramountclassiccars.com/" rel="nofollow - Check out this CAR SHOP This place is in Hickory, North Carolina. It's near the old North Wilkesboro Speedway. Almost every car imaginable. It's kinda like a consignment shop. You can put your car in there for Sale or Show. ------------- 66 Skylark http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5041" rel="nofollow - 93 SN If you're not living in NC, you're just camping out! |
Posted By: quik225
Date Posted: May-08-2013 at 10:12am
No Bird for me, I have a Fish!
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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: May-08-2013 at 10:13am
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Nice AAR Mark. My personal favorite cuda of all time is a red on red on black top 70 AAR. Something about cars with matching interiors gets me all warm and fuzzy especially if it's B5 blue. ------------- |
Posted By: quik225
Date Posted: May-08-2013 at 10:16am
If my Fish can't catch a Bird, maybe my old SS Hemi Belvedere can.
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Posted By: john b
Date Posted: May-08-2013 at 11:09am
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It's a treat seeing the photos Cecil. How do you decide which one to drive on a nice day? ------------- 1970 Mustang "Theseus' paradox" If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |