Need parts for 71 promo Nautique
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Printed Date: November-21-2024 at 6:35pm
Topic: Need parts for 71 promo Nautique
Posted By: 67nautique312
Subject: Need parts for 71 promo Nautique
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 6:25pm
Need parts for my 71 Promo Nautique
1- steering wheel
2- Airguide speedo for motor cover
thanks Paul,
913-219-3402 if you want to call
or e-mail me at paul.waters@bayer.com
------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 10:28pm
Paul,you didn't give us much to go on. What does one look like? Brochures don't show them. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5382&sort=&pagenum=3" rel="nofollow - Like this? What about the hub,do you need that too?
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-27-2012 at 11:44pm
Wellllllll? .....Thats it? ....
You gonna fill us in on WHAT you are using them on?
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62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 1:30am
Paul, I assume you're looking for the white faced Airguide wih kph on the outside? JMurph made some faces up for those so you can make a newer (more common) speedo look period correct.
Not cheap, but there's a steering wheel on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290740321497" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/itm/290740321497
Gary, the '71 promo was in the cover of the brochure that year- yellow boat with cursive lettering. There's a few around but not many. Reid has/had one.
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 2:05am
D'oh, I meant the wheel Tim. Hard to look for something when you don't know what it is There are 2 kinds of those,the ones originally on mine and Johns SS were chromed steel,the one I have now(found on ebay) is stainless and that one you refer to looks stainless too. They don't come up very often.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 11:49am
The steering wheel in the picture on ebay would be correct...but i think the original one(on mine) is black not wood(or fake wood)and stainles cross bars with circle pattern.
Tim, You are correct...KPH on the outside MPH on the inside...white face... i will post some pics of it if i can figure out how to do it....it's been a while since i have posted pics.!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 11:55am
67nautique312 wrote:
The steering wheel in the picture on ebay would be correct...but i think the original one(on mine) is black not wood(or fake wood)and stainles cross bars with circle pattern. | Paul, the black rimmed steering wheel wasnt used until '73. The wood one is correct.
Here are the faces that JMurph has. Just find yourself a newer airguide with a black face and add this: http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19955&KW=&title=airguide-speedometer-faces-white-60s70s" rel="nofollow - 60's-70's white faces
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:17pm
Paul, I have a wood grain wheel off the old 70 Wildcat. Spokes have some rust/pitting. Not sure how it would clean up. Can take some pics this weekend. Its your if you want it.
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62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:18pm
67nautique312 wrote:
The steering wheel in the picture on ebay would be correct...but i think the original one(on mine) is black not wood(or fake wood)and stainles cross bars with circle pattern.
Tim, You are correct...KPH on the outside MPH on the inside...white face... i will post some pics of it if i can figure out how to do it....it's been a while since i have posted pics.! |
Paul, Grab that wheel on ebay.. That is the correct one !!!!!!
------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:19pm
Mine should be the same as the one in the 1972 Promo pic in the reference section...it looks black aslo...should it have the round holes or rectangle shaped hole in the cross bar??
here is mine as it sits now...not correct but close
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:25pm
i'm thinking that i may have to send that guy on ebay an offer and see what happens?
you guys are right.....the circles in the cross bars is correct....here is a pic of steve workmans steering wheel..love that wheel steve.
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:25pm
Here's a closer look at the Promo dash. Paul needs the exact same speedo for the engine cover (it's missing)...
Moj'
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:26pm
Paul, I think the wheel from the Wildcat has hexagon shaped holes in the spokes.
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62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:29pm
67nautique312 wrote:
i'm thinking that i may have to send that guy on ebay an offer and see what happens?
you guys are right.....the circles in the cross bars is correct....here is a pic of steve workmans steering wheel..love that wheel steve.
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Paul, I'm with you on my red wheel... "some" on the site are not as excited about it tho.
Altho the original owner swears that wheeel was on the 73, I would not judge it as what you need. My 73 has a couple of "unexplained" options that do not show on the literature that year.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:30pm
62 wood wrote:
Paul, I think the wheel from the Wildcat has hexagon shaped holes in the spokes. | Yep, all the woodgrained wheels do (check the ebay one closely).
The black rimmed wheels have slots (2 slots on the larger ones used '73-77 and 1 slot on the smaller diameter wheels used '78-84). The first SN they showed up on were the red/white/blue '73's though. Prior to that would have gotten the wood grained wheels (like the orange '72 promos), or less common, the white plastic wheels used starting in ~'67. Id opt for the wood grain on an early 70's SN, personally.
The ref section is down, but Id take a close look at the yellow boat in the '71 brochure.
Steve, if that red flake wheel is original, then you must have a Cypress Gardens boat! Seriously though- you can get those metal flake wheels (in any color) on ebay. The previous owner is either mistaken, or it was an ultra super secret rare and valuable option!
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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 12:44pm
Steve, if you ever get a chance to talk to Art Cozier I suggest you do so. In the many times we have talked in various places he always has a great CC story about something. He'll tell you that back in those days CC would go to great lengths to sell a boat and even customize one for the buyer if it meant that's what it took to seal the deal. If the owner says it's original it might very well be. Art may or may not be able to confirm it but I know he'll tell you that it's very possible that it is.
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 1:06pm
Tim, Not to get off topic (too far ) I have spoken with Art, he and Reid found the dealer invoice for my 73.
The original owner purchased the boat at a tournament in Ohio. He went with no plans to buy a boat. They were using the 73 as a tow boat, he fell in love with it and ended up trading his Mustang in on it. Part of the deal was CC was allowed to use it in two more tourneys.
Anyway, Paul, do the gauges set in a wood panel? Also, I see your hour meter has the typical plasic lens clouding.
VERY NICE!!!!
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62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 1:08pm
It's like this ladder. The original owner swears it's original O.E.M. stuff.. It certainly looks period correct, but who knows..
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 1:17pm
Back to the speedo's. Tim, (TRB, too many Tims) do you know if the original faces were the off white.... both Pauls and mine are no where near as bright as the repro faces. Is it just natural aging of the paper?
And I do think my boat was probably a Cypress Gardens boat as well ...
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62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 1:31pm
Those speedos actually have plastic faces, so Im guessing they werent as UV resistant as the later metal faced ones. I do believe they were bright white originally... all of the reproductions Ive seen (both metal faces and vinyl overlays) have been done that way.
Dean (from Classic Boat Works) reproduction:
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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 1:56pm
62 wood wrote:
Back to the speedo's. Tim, (TRB, too many Tims) |
..... That's why most people call me Foot! Well unless your Reid, he has to be different and calls me Footy!
------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
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Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 2:03pm
Paul,
I am so glad someone from this site got that boat. I love that boat.
Donald
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 2:52pm
thanks donald....now the hard part..RESTORATION time...
here is the motor (318)
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the carpet is comming out and original white vinyl is going back in. Pete will be glad to know i'm going back all original.
------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 3:02pm
Paul, does the boat have 2 water pick ups or one? My '70 Stang (273) has 2 and Chris's '72 promo (318) has 1... cooling system set ups are similar but not the same. The engine looks great- but may have been repainted in a slightly different color? Reid knows what the original blue/green was.
Great news on the vinyl- I assume you know that you need Nautolex Shark? JMurph's '72 just got some laid down, it looks awesome. Do you have the original aluminum trim to go between the floor boards? Joe or Chris located some in the original style if you dont. You gonna be able to clean up the hull sides (I assume they have carpet glue?)? Im surprised the boat doesnt have ski pockets... let us know if you find remnants of them having been there at some point when the carpet comes up!
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 3:06pm
Thats part of the fun Paul That wheel on ebay is real nice.I paid with shipping about 120 for only the wheel. If you don't go that route I have another,but it has 2 small cracks and the color is faded. I'll get some pictures. Don I'm surprised you didn't catch Steve's Cypress Gardens comment. Everyone knows Cypress boats have Teleflex tach's
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 3:28pm
Tim,
I believe there is ony one water pick up....the boat has the original black side panels in it and they are perfect. I talked with Reid on engine paint and he is actually the one going to send me the vinyl. i assume it's the correct vinyl or Reid wouldn't have it or send it to me to put in this Promo boat. The floor in it is 3/4" plywood...i don't beleive that is correct size? and...there is no shaft access panel in the back(will be able to tell more when i take up the carpet)...Mojo can tell ya that the original owner said it didn't come with the access panel????not sure if that could be true or not??....i say NOT. With a little help from all you 70's guru's i should come up with everything to go back ALL original.....only time and money stand in the way.
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you can see the side panels here a little bit.
Gary....i will keep that in mind and thanks for the offer....i probably will pull the trigger on the one on Ebay.
------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 3:35pm
Gary S wrote:
Don I'm surprised you didn't catch Steve's Cypress Gardens comment. Everyone knows Cypress boats have Teleflex tach's |
Gary, Dont you mean USED TO HAVE Teleflex tachs? I havent seen mine in 5 or 6 months!
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 3:39pm
TRBenj wrote:
Paul, does the boat have 2 water pick ups or one? My '70 Stang (273) has 2 and Chris's '72 promo (318) has 1... cooling system set ups are similar but not the same. The engine looks great- but may have been repainted in a slightly different color? Reid knows what the original blue/green was.
Great news on the vinyl- I assume you know that you need Nautolex Shark? JMurph's '72 just got some laid down, it looks awesome. Do you have the original aluminum trim to go between the floor boards? Joe or Chris located some in the original style if you dont. You gonna be able to clean up the hull sides (I assume they have carpet glue?)? Im surprised the boat doesnt have ski pockets... let us know if you find remnants of them having been there at some point when the carpet comes up! |
Yes, It has dual pick ups Tim...
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 3:41pm
If mine gets back before yours,we will have an idea where yours is
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 3:56pm
Gary S wrote:
If mine gets back before yours,we will have an idea where yours is |
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 4:10pm
Side panels- now thats weird! Cant say Ive seen another SN with something like that. I thought they all got ski pockets or just had bare (splattered) gelcoat walls.
I havent owned any boats built between '73 and '78, I cant speak to when the shaft access port was added- but it definitely wasnt there by '72- so youre original there.
Reid knows the proper vinyl- youre in good hands! He's spent a lot of time helping JMurph get his '72 promo all spiffed up recently.
So is it single or dual pick up, fellas? Honestly, neither would surprise me!
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 4:16pm
Dual pick ups Tim..... and the side panels, like the ladder were supposely bought that way from the dealer in Texas.. Art has the ID number and said he'd do some digging after New Years...
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 4:52pm
i guess your right moj....it does have two hoses comming from the hull....so 2 it is!
tim..the (lack of)access panel may be original but i think i may add one for funcional purposes.
------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 5:02pm
67nautique312 wrote:
tim..the (lack of)access panel may be original but i think i may add one for funcional purposes. | Meh. I cant say Ive ever found them useful. Its not like the packing needs adjustment on a regular basis... and on the rare occasion you need to service it, its a lot easier to work on with that whole panel out of there. Ive never missed having them on my older boats. A big black port hole would stick out like a sore thumb against that new light colored vinyl! Just my 2 cents.
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 5:15pm
They make white access ports, but I agree with Tim.
Only "bad" is no port adds a couple of seams in the vinyl flooring.
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62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 5:27pm
not sure what i will do? and yes the seams would suck!
------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 5:55pm
62 wood wrote:
Only "bad" is no port adds a couple of seams in the vinyl flooring. | Oh I wouldnt even consider making that panel non-removable- thats a must for being able to service things back there. I sure wouldnt want to be cutting the vinyl the first time I needed to get under there!
The '71-72 Skiers Ive seen had that panel screwed down, but otherwise 100% removable (with the aluminum trim on the edges). I cant say Ive seen a SN from that same era with the original floor still in it... but I would be surprised if it werent set up the same. There were floor seams everywhere in these boats- fore and aft of the motorbox. CC must have been buying plywood in small pieces back then!
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 5:55pm
67nautique312 wrote:
not sure what i will do? and yes the seams would suck!
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Confused? after seeing a few pics opf the old wreck ,you could cut your losses and bring her up to me!
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62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 5:58pm
you wouldn't want this thing steve....it is Chrysler powered! and your a Bowtie man.
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-28-2012 at 6:03pm
67nautique312 wrote:
you wouldn't want this thing steve....it is Chrysler powered! and your a Bowtie man. |
I've lowered my standards before.
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: December-29-2012 at 3:32am
I was just looking at the ebay wheel again. Do the spokes look like they are a satin finish? Should they not be chrome?
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-29-2012 at 1:13pm
Steve,it's my guess there were 2 models.Both Johnb's and my boat,27 apart,had the chrome plated steel ones.Both were rusty and beyond economical repair. The 2 I have now are stainless and the one on ebay looks to be too maybe in it's original finish?
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-29-2012 at 1:24pm
They seem to turn gray if left out in the weather. Has anyone had any luck bringing back the color? The one that came with our '68 Cuda was chrome plated steel.
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-29-2012 at 2:53pm
I'll say Bruce! I just picked this one up and here you can see the difference. I have a string buff for plastic so I tried it in a spot.It made it shine more but no change to the color,it must be sun bleached out.It came out of an early 70's Cavalier.
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Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: December-29-2012 at 5:41pm
Paul,
PM me your address. I'll send you some faces for your speedos. Like Tim said, the original faces were printed on polystyrene and that is why they all look off-white or yellow. The ones I had printed, I actually had the shop add some pixels to the background so they wouldn't be too white. They look good in the boat.
P.S. I may be able to dig up another Speedo for you.
If anyone else out there needs any of the white faces, let me know. I'm glad to pass them along if they can be used. They are actually stickers, but I have just cut them out and laid them on the original faces and that has worked fine so far. It takes some patience, but it's nothing that any one of you couldn't complete with a minimal effort.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-31-2012 at 11:12am
John...that would be cool!!! i'll send you my address and if you could come up with another speedo that would be GREAT!! can you send me pics of the floor in your boat after you put in that vinyl floor(Nautica shark gray i believe its called?)
Gary,....whatever i get will have to be close enough...period correct will work for me.... those two wheels look to be the same to me.
Paul,
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: December-31-2012 at 1:07pm
Congratulations on the new member of the family Paul! She is a beauty! The new boat ain't bad either! Make sure you tell your girls Happy New Year! for me.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: December-31-2012 at 1:22pm
Thanks Joe,
I have beuties all around me....i'm a lucky guy....were you ears burning? we were talking about GL and your name(and boat) came up in that conversation. They want another ride in that rocket you call a boat! Cant wait to bring the new Toy to GL...you comming?
------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: December-31-2012 at 2:00pm
I did find an extra speedometer from that period. Dropping all of the stuff in the mail to you today or Wednesday.
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: December-31-2012 at 4:44pm
67nautique312 wrote:
Thanks Joe,
I have beuties all around me....i'm a lucky guy....were you ears burning? we were talking about GL and your name(and boat) came up in that conversation. They want another ride in that rocket you call a boat! Cant wait to bring the new Toy to GL...you comming? |
Unless something unforseen comes up between here and there I am planning to make the trek way up yonder there this year...
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001
1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy"
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Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-01-2013 at 6:00pm
Hey Paul, Remember me? you came to the lake and bought the motor box for the Classic.
Awesome find!
Did you find it in MO?
Have you found a 3rd Airguide? I might have a matching plastic Dial Face for you. If you are leaving the other two the way they are.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: January-02-2013 at 10:34am
Al,
of course i remember...that motor box for my classic was the last thing i needed before i painted it....
i think Jmurph is sending me a guage for the motor box..and i plan on rebuilding all 3 of them. he is sending me the guage faces too....what a hell of a guy!
your boat is looking DAMN good!
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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: January-02-2013 at 6:54pm
Mojo wrote:
It's like this ladder. The original owner swears it's original O.E.M. stuff.. It certainly looks period correct, but who knows..
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Looks like you need a Balance tube for that 3rd Speedo......
I have several that need homes....Email or PM me if ya need one.......
Steve
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: January-03-2013 at 10:37am
Steve,
Mojo has a couple off of a 71 parts boat he's gonna send to me....i will let you know if i need one though...
thanks for the offer and i will keep you in mind.
Paul,
------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: January-03-2013 at 12:51pm
Air206 wrote:
Looks like you need a Balance tube for that 3rd Speedo......
I have several that need homes....Email or PM me if ya need one.......
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Hey Steve, sent ya an email on the balance tube.
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 12:12pm
Mojo wrote:
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Funny thing here guys. When identifying the hull number, Art confirms that the boat was ordered with a special black side panel interior, undermount glove box and a "Black" steering wheel....
Sounds like the wood wheel we thing should be in the boat, may not be the case at all. But if the black wheels that CC used from 73 to 80-whatever wern't around back then, could that be the original , possibly aftermarket, wheel in the boat???? Never seen anything like it......
Also, no mention of the ladder as an ordered option..
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 12:26pm
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Funny thing here guys. When identifying the hull number, Art confirms that the boat was ordered with a special black side panel interior, undermount glove box and a "Black" steering wheel....
Sounds like the wood wheel we thing should be in the boat, may not be the case at all. But if the black wheels that CC used from 73 to 80-whatever wern't around back then, could that be the original , possibly aftermarket, wheel in the boat???? Never seen anything like it......
Also, no mention of the ladder as an ordered option..
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hmmmmm, maybe that black wheel was on the same "special order" shelf as my red one?!!??
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 12:41pm
...along with my black wheel.
While we're on the subject of originality, what's the deal with the speedometer mounts? My 72 came with the black plexi mount, but I'm seeing the same thing on Steve's and Paul's. I moved both airguides to what I thought was the original mounting locations but now I'm questioning that move....
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 12:46pm
Chris, All of the orange 72'Promo's I've seen have the woodgrain looking wheel on them, and for that red thing on Steve's boat, now I'm guessing you could get whatever you want back then.. On a 71' though, what was the standard wheel on a stock SN? I thought the black wheel wasn't really introduced till 73'??
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 12:50pm
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Chris, and for that red thing on Steve's boat...
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 12:54pm
Bwahahahahaaaaaa.. Gee, didn't know you were so sensitive there Wood?? hahaha.. Wheel looks a whole lot better than the holes on the deck from the tower... hehe
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 12:57pm
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Bwahahahahaaaaaa.. Gee, didn't know you were so sensitive there Wood?? hahaha.. Wheel looks a whole lot better than the holes on the deck from the tower... hehe |
Now its the tower holes... think I'll go home and scrap the ol tug..
keep digging that hole moj'!!
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 1:12pm
i took off the black plexi so i can rebuild my guages and the original color is what i found underneath....yes Mine looks exactly the same as chris and steve's...i would guess it's original? Although there were holes and mounts where it looks like the guages were originally underneath the plexi???....here is the info that art pulled from the microfiche attached..
The engine was set on 6/1/71, which makes that the official birth date of the boat. The engine log lists 225 hp Chrysler engine, Model # LM318BWR10-366. Serial number is 3112378. The model number translates to a right-hand rotation 318 cu. in. with a Borg-Warner 1:1 transmission turning a right-hand propeller. I found the original invoice. It is dated 6/9/71 and lists the boat as Canary Yellow with black accent stripe and black racing stripe. It was shipped to Midwest Correct Craft in Angola, IN and was designated for Richard Manley, who was a sales rep for Midwest. I know him personally. The boat was intended as his demonstrator and was expected to be made available for use in ski tournaments as a promo boat. Options listed are: Three tournament speedometers, with the third one mounted on the motor box. Glass windshield (apparently the standard ones were plastic), black steering wheel, glove box, electric fuel gauge, hour meter, black interior panels, black and white upholstery with stern seating, a white floor mat, and lettering on the sides.
thanks Art and Mojo for supplying this info for me!!! pretty cool to have!!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 1:14pm
I havent seen that slotted black wheel used on anything older than a '73. If there was in fact a black-rimmed wheel option in '71-72, my guess it would have looked like Chris's wheel. That at least has the same hub assembly as all the other Teleflex wheels that were being used at the time (including the wood rimmed wheel). The one on Paul's boat looks a lot more modern. Personally, Id be swapping out for a wood rimmed version regardless, as we KNOW that was period correct.
Chris, the 2 plexi speedo mounts sure do look similar (yours and Paul's). Tough to say whether they were a real option (either factory or dealer) or not. Getting them up higher sure does make them more visible though, so its tough to say. If you found holes from the screws and tubing under that panel you had, then Im sure the speedos were mounted lower at some point. Thats how theyre shown in the '72 and '73 brochures... the plexi showed up in '74. It may have been a popular retrofit?
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 2:26pm
Here's the wheel from the 71' parts boat.. The wheel is the same teleflex wheel, but with a different center cap. Perhaps this same wheel was available in 71', just rarely used...
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 2:27pm
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Tough to say whether they were a real option (either factory or dealer) or not. Getting them up higher sure does make them more visible though, so its tough to say. If you found holes from the screws and tubing under that panel you had, then Im sure the speedos were mounted lower at some point. Thats how theyre shown in the '72 and '73 brochures... the plexi showed up in '74. It may have been a popular retrofit? |
Wow... just when I thought I knew everything about my 73. I had never noticed the speedos in the 73 brochures were still in the dash. The plexi another "oddity" in my 73?
One big difference between my 73 and the two promos is the tach in mine is cut into the plexi, below the speedos. both promos have them in the dash.
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 2:32pm
Just looked at other 73's in the diaries. Cant see in all cases, but a number of them do have the plexi mounts with tach below.
Could have been a production change, after literaure was printed?
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 2:35pm
Probably another CC mystery. Here's mine after the change, much harder to see the gauges but provides more visibility.
Edit: found one more
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Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 3:01pm
Steve, The "Oddity" is the brochure boat.
I'd say the correct wheel for Pauls would be like Storms. The sim. wood wheels were generally too big.
I have several 3-hole per spoke wheels. I'd use Mojo's wheel until I could find a 4-hole.
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Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: January-09-2013 at 6:10pm
My 72 promo has the speedos mounted in the dash like Chris' are now. It does not have any holes from where plexi was previously installed.
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: January-10-2013 at 12:23pm
Maybe it was and "ordering" preference back then????
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: January-21-2013 at 4:19pm
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Started bufing and cleaning process...damn i'm gonna be sore!
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Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: January-21-2013 at 4:33pm
man is that thing shining up nice.. Like the color so much more that the original !!!! keep going dude.. July is just around the corner..
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: January-21-2013 at 8:13pm
Man, that will look good with tranny fluid all over the sides!
Dont make it too nice... it will make my old tug look bad!
Cant wait to see it!
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: January-21-2013 at 8:15pm
Looking good!! Can't wait to see it in person.
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Date Posted: January-21-2013 at 9:11pm
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Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: January-21-2013 at 11:53pm
Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 3:54pm
Well now i am looking for the trumpet horns for my Promo....
I sent it off to get chromed and they lost the hardware pieces. so i need another one to rob parts off of.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 12:21pm
With the help of pictures that Tim B found in his possible boat finds to purchase he found these pics. and i think we may be able to lay to rest the question of whether or not my steering wheel is original or not...thanks for sending me the pics. Tim!!
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My promo, this one that tim found and Reid's Yellow Promo all have the same wheel in them....coincidence??? I hope not....but i think i will keep it.
thanks for the Pics. Tim!!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 12:38pm
Paul, just a few corrections- I never saw that other yellow promo in person (I believe it was in KY)... just had the seller send pics. It was rough!
Reid's yellow promo has a different wheel- not original, as its the late 70's/early 80's smaller teleflex. Still, 2/3 makes a pretty strong case that the wheel youve got is original.
Reid/Jerry's promo:
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 2:18pm
Sounds good to me....i will consider it Original....
thanks again Tim!
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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 3:07pm
Promo boats rock. Paul that thing looks super shiny!
Chris there is somethig off about that steering wheel picture.... aheemmm mountain dew. Wheres the brew?
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 4:10pm
Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 5:00pm
Early morning/pre-skiing brew since we were out of coffee. Surprisingly, they set right there just fine under power.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: March-14-2013 at 11:28am
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Also installed the Airguide on the motor box that was missing....Huge thanks to JMurph for sending that one to me!!!
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: March-14-2013 at 12:43pm
Paul that boat is shining up real nice, gonna be absolutely beautiful.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: March-14-2013 at 4:38pm
The boat resto thing gives me something to do so i don't get into trouble.....you have the same problem apparently alan.....i don't think anyone who attends this years GL reunion will notice any other boat but yours.....I myself personally can't wait to see(and ride in) yours!!!!
thanks for the compliment alan...means alot comming from a guy that masters every boat project too perfection!
see ya at GL dude!
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 12:09pm
Ok...Here we go....Took out floor and cartpet to replace it(correctly) and put in access panel(behind motor box)also install Nautolex shark grey vinyl to be period correct. Exhaust (at exit) is rotten to the point i'm supprised the boat didn't sink. Removed exhaust...guess what??? secondary stringers are shot....Didn't plan on this but now i have no choice but to do it right...So the journey begins. Already removed all the foam and rotten stringers. Ground out old fiberglass....wish me luck!
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If you notice the exhaust going down into the foam has been replace to just down under the foam.....Half assed chop job...then they put foam around it after they put it in.....
Why can't people do it right the first time so i don't have to redo it!!!
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 4:03pm
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Carrying it to the extreem huh Paul? I'm sure you'll do a great job and you will put your mind at ease knowing it's sound
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 4:46pm
Glad now i removed the floor.....would have been hard to retrieve the boat in a lake as deep as Geen lake!
i've removed all the foam and rotten stringers and ground out all the old fiberlass.....off to purchase material.
wasn't planning on this but yes Gary...it will be good to know it's sound!
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 5:00pm
Damn, Paul! You're not kidding around.
It's going to look great with new vinyl on the floor.
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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 5:05pm
....with all your doing might as well sink my old 73 tug...
Cant wait to see it!!!
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 5:32pm
Chris....Not really what i wanted to do.....but already 1/2 way into it now...no turning back at this point.
Steve...I'll take it! No wait...yours has foam in it too. nevermind. lol
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Posted By: ArtCozier
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 5:39pm
OK, now I'm curious. Does the 312 refer to the hull number, or an engine? Perhaps your Classic has a 312 Interceptor in it? The SN HID should be 4 digits. The MoPar in the SN is a 318. Art
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 5:40pm
Yikes, thats a pretty big investment (both time and money). Not fun when it hits suddenly and unexpectedly! I assume we wont be seeing the boat at GL this year then after all? Good luck and be sure to ask plenty of questions as you go!
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 5:46pm
Art, Paul seems to have added a picture of his newly acquired '71 SN to the diary entry he previously had dedicated to his 312 powered Classic. Confusing for sure!
Paul, get a new diary going for the SN and change the one for your Classic back the way it should be, man!
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Posted By: ArtCozier
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 5:54pm
I would be interested in seeing what your Nautalex flooring looks like. I am looking for period-correct floor covering for Correct Craft's 1961 Ski Nautique and maybe that would do. Where did you get it? I don't think I saw anything like that on the Nautalex website. Art
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 6:13pm
Art, here's a close up of the floor covering used in the early 70's compared to the Nautolex "Shark". Its the closest we've been able to find. Its what was installed in John Murphy's orange '72 promo SN if you got the chance to check it out at the SJRR a few weeks ago.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 6:46pm
Art, sorry to confuse. Yes as Tim stated it was a signature i used when i first came on the site. I have a 63 classic that i thought at the time was a 67 Classic (boat Title read 67)but it turns out it is a 63. I ordered the Nautolex shark grey vinyl from Defender. It looks good in Jmurphs Promo.
Tim...Yes it WILL be at green Lake. i will get it done! i have been through all the stringer replacement forums and have a good idea of how to attack it. obviously it wont be as good or detailed as yours but will be structurally sound and tight! I know you probably would answer any questions i have though...right?
oh also Tim....probably wont change my signature. people know who i am and i'm good with it just the way it is.
Art...here's my classic.
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Posted By: ArtCozier
Date Posted: April-19-2013 at 6:47pm
Thanks, TR. That looks good; I assume that the surface is grainy and non-slip. That can be a bit of a hassle in FL because the sand gets down into it easily and is hard to wash out.
I kind of think that the '71s were offered with different options for floor covering when they were new. I recall a guy from IN who had one with black flooring. He brought one to FL one year, and five minutes in the noontime sun and you couldn't possible walk on it. Had to keep a bucket in the boat to throw water on the floor to cool it. Art
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