Ski Nautique 176
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Printed Date: April-09-2025 at 1:12am
Topic: Ski Nautique 176
Posted By: Frankenotter
Subject: Ski Nautique 176
Date Posted: April-24-2013 at 6:35pm
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I'm just starting this thread for anyone that owns, or plans to own a SN 176. These are links to all the pitfalls that I've encountered since buying my boat that you guys have helped me through. There is not s lot of 176 specific material on this site so I thought it would be a good idea to start this searchable thread. At least you can see all the mistakes I've made along the way. Anyone with 176 info please contribute!!!! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29051&KW=&title=the-journey" rel="nofollow - A lot of general info http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29508&KW=&title=state-tax-to-get-your-boaqt-regestered" rel="nofollow - State Tax http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29164&KW=&title=anyone-seen-one-of-these-steering-cables" rel="nofollow - Steering Cable http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29308&KW=&title=how-do-i-get-these-off" rel="nofollow - Removing Old Manifolds http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29393&KW=&title=best-way-to-prep-surface-for-new-manifolds" rel="nofollow - Installing New Manifolds http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34672&title=176-ideal-prop" rel="nofollow - Prop Discussion http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32702&KW=&title=trailer-restoration-thread-sn176" rel="nofollow - Trailer Rebuild http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31340&KW=&title=plugs-are-fouled-and-wet-smell-like-fuel" rel="nofollow - Carb Problems / Rebuild http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31429&KW=&title=fuel-leaking-out-of-primary-venturi" rel="nofollow - Carb Problems / Rebuild Part II ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
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Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: April-26-2013 at 9:51pm
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Fits perfectly behind a 4WD Mule.  ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: April-26-2013 at 11:23pm
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Good lookin boat! ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: April-27-2013 at 12:30am
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Those are pretty awesome boats that do most everything very well. Yours looks great! ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: wwchevy
Date Posted: April-27-2013 at 1:19am
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Very nice boat. Thanks for posting the manifold stuff. I took mine off and replaced the manifold and riser gaskets the same time you did yours. I only broke off two riser bolts but I used the Acetone / ATF mixture and it worked great. That was quite a struggle you had with those. Like I always say, what doesn't kill you makes you a better mechanic. Good luck. ------------- wwchevy 1989 Barefoot Nautique |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: April-27-2013 at 3:02am
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Thanks Brett and Wes!!! You aren't kidding about those manifolds. I'd say I spent 2 solid months getting the old ones off and the new ones ready to mount. I just started the engine today for the first time since I had them off and everything ran smooth. It really has been a rewarding journey so far and there is much much more to come. Steve is helping me with my sender problem tomorrow and after that the next step will be a lake with lots of photos. ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-27-2013 at 3:10am
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Don't forget to put the plug in... ------------- |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: May-09-2013 at 9:33pm
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Well I got to the lake today with the help of Steve K!! After a winter of work I got my first ride in the Nautique today. Once it was running, it ran very smooth. I need to do the stuffing box and that garbage rudder surely needs to go but it was a blast!! Steve brought the GPS and we got it to 40.6 mph at 4200RPM WOT. I know the prop on this thing has to go and I'll be posting some questions on how to get it higher. For now, I'm just happy it goes. This is how the swim platform turned out after it drank close to a bottle of oil.     ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-09-2013 at 9:59pm
 Looking good Chris,hope to meet you in July.------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: May-09-2013 at 11:09pm
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Chris - hey thanks for letting me tag along today, glad I could help get out that first time. Been thinking about the motor, while I agree you need a new prop, I think we need to wake that motor up first. Even with the stock prop (especially with the stock prop), I think we should have been able to turn more rev's and I suspect a carb adjustment issue. Unfortunately though, as I said when we were out there,I got nothing on Carbs. Maybe Tim (TRBenj) or Joe (JoeInNY)can chime in. Not sure if its an adjustment, or if it just needs a tear down, cleaning and general rebuild. Anyone else have some any thoughts? ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: May-09-2013 at 11:16pm
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Great job Chris. The swim platform really came out nice. ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: May-10-2013 at 12:10pm
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Thanks Gary and Jeff! Steve I think your right about getting more from the engine. Once I get it to a place where it can be in the water for a while then I can start getting into it for sure. Here's a short video from yesterday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlEsccJXp4&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow - Test Run ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: May-10-2013 at 12:13pm
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Oh yea......I forgot to mention, both speedos do nothing. No indications at all. I know all the tubing is hooked up from when I took the fuel tank out. Any ideas beside replacing all the tubing? Chris ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: May-13-2013 at 2:16pm
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One more short clip of the boat going a little faster. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuDeVfcMFXY&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-13-2013 at 2:30pm
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You will have to check the pickups Chris,they clog easy. You'll have to disconnect the tubing from them and if their clogged you can use a pin or very fine drill bit to clean them out. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: May-14-2013 at 9:55am
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Thanks Gary. That's what I did today. I took a bit of safety wire to the pitot and dug out a lot of mud. I think the PO did things just to make me wonder. Both of them were packed solid with mud, the right side was disconnected behind the tank, and the left one was disconnected above the pickup. Very strange. C ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: May-14-2013 at 10:13am
If it wasn't for Po's Chris,some of us wouldn't have the boats we do  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: skutsch
Date Posted: May-14-2013 at 10:53am
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Chris - you should be able to check them now that they are all cleaned out. Have one of those crazy parachute guys "puff" on the pick up, it should cause a needle deflection on the speedos. Its a low pressure system, so no compressed air - HA! Also I have some left over Collinite for you to try. I'll be back on Friday and can drop it at the hanger then. Any luck finding any threads on tuning carbs? Maybe that should be a new thread. ------------- Our http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4669" rel="nofollow - 98 Sport Nautique My Dad's 63 Ski N |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: May-14-2013 at 11:57am
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Good job dude!! I always have to use the drill bit method early on in the season from all the dirty water in the lakes/rivers. I take the tube off and blow down through the pickup with compressed air after the drill cleans the pickup. ------------- |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: May-14-2013 at 8:25pm
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Chris - In addition to checking the carb (secondaries opening all the way), I recommend checking the amount of timing advance. You should be getting at least 28 degrees total advance at 4000 RPM. I have mine set up for 32 degrees at 3000 RPM. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: May-14-2013 at 8:59pm
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Hey thanks gents. I have a huge task ahead of me with learning about carbs, timing, and props. For the time being I've only had it in the water one time and I'm trying to make arrangements to get the boat closer to my house. Right now I have to make a half day of getting it prepped, launched, recovered, and stored again. In a week and a half ill have it set up to go in the water in about 15 min whenever I want. Once I get to that point I plan to start into the engine performance. I will be asking some really stupid questions once I start the project because my knowledge in those areas are a little weak. I also have some moderate to severe trailer problems that need attention. Right now my trailer is like a mid evil death blender of jagged metal, rusted screws, and rotted wood. My goal is to have everything fairly complete and functional for Green Lake. Then I hope to find really smart people and chain them to the boat until it runs like a Swiss Watch. Cheers! ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: May-20-2013 at 1:07pm
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Got one of the speedos working. Need to look at the other one a little closer. Got out for a bit the other day and took requested video of the wake at full power. It's a short clip but it gets the point across. ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: May-30-2013 at 11:27am
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I could have sworn someone posted a thread yesterday about potentially selling a 176 and now I can't find it. Maybe he changed his mind? ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: May-30-2013 at 2:44pm
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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30039&title=ski-nautique-176" rel="nofollow - Link ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: June-22-2013 at 2:17pm
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Well I finally got to use my boat for that which it was intended. I got up skiing this week and it preformed really well. Awesome wake at 15-20 off. I also pulled my friend barefoot and he was pretty happy with the hole shot. I didn't get any pics of me skiing and I have a GoPro coming next week for some shots of the back of the boat underway. We also had a Barefoot 200 out for the day. Who says CC and MC can't get along?    ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 1:19pm
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It has been a while since I've updated this thread with current projects. Added new links and I'm working on a timing report with Zach's help. Cheers! Chris ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-03-2014 at 10:57am
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How's it coming along? ------------- |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: October-03-2014 at 4:18pm
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I finally got a vacuum gauge yesterday and took her out to tune the carb. The final result is as follows: 1. 32 advanced on the timing 2. ACME 422 3. 4600 rpm WOT 4. 43 mph on a non-official gps 5. Starts and idles at 600 rpm. I don't think I can ask anything more of a 1040 hr engine. I have been really really happy with this boat. I'll probably keep my eye out for something in a 196 in the next few years, but I'm in no hurry. Thanks for the help with the timing Zach! It sounded much worse than it was. I owe you a few sodas! ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-03-2014 at 4:52pm
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There she goes. There's the rpm you are looking for. I bet GPS will tell you faster. ------------- |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: October-03-2014 at 5:21pm
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Great looking boat, looks much younger than 1,000 hours for sure. Glad you got it dialed in and can have fun with it. I like the color scheme! |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-03-2014 at 5:42pm
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Bet you go faster with a 470. ------------- |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-03-2014 at 5:44pm
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HW knows the secrets of the almighty 470 ------------- |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: October-04-2014 at 4:11am
| I would think a good prop on a 454 might not be ideal for the 351 engine. The 454 has an extra 100 ft pounds of torque. That is a lot of helpful twist that the small engine could not muster. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-04-2014 at 2:02pm
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The prop doesn't know what engine is spinning it. Big engine with a 1:1 could very well turn the same prop as a smaller engine with a 1.23:1 ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-04-2014 at 2:43pm
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^^Yup^^ A stock 330hp 454 will actually struggle to pull a 470 (12.5x15). It'll perform much better with a 13x13 or 13x14 acme (430, 1598, 1458). On a 176 with a 1.23, I don't think ia 470 is going to be enough prop since he's already turning the 422 (12.5x15.5) 4600. That's the sweet spot on a 240hp 351w. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-04-2014 at 6:53pm
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The 470 is a large prop. Look how it towers over a 654. http://s134.photobucket.com/user/kfleisch/media/boat%20parts/photo.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  So not only is there a large rake, there is also a lot of blade in front of the hub too. Being a 3 blade it is also more efficient. This is why I say it will be faster than a 422. ------------- |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: October-28-2016 at 12:07am
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Just did my first ever compression check on the 176 while putting her away for the season. I was sh!?ing bricks wondering about the outcome for an engine that has 1150 hours, but here are the results. Cylinder: 1. 115 2. 125 3. 125 4. 120 5. 115 6. 120 7. 125 8. 120 That seems pretty healthy to me. ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: October-28-2016 at 12:09am
| Was the engine cold or warm |
Posted By: Frankenotter
Date Posted: October-28-2016 at 12:18am
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Relatively warm. I bucket ran it up to temp in the driveway, changed the oil, and then did the test. ------------- 1999 Ski Nautique 196 |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: October-28-2016 at 10:11am
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Should run good on 87 octane! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |