I ordered the wrong fuel filter
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Topic: I ordered the wrong fuel filter
Posted By: boardersdad
Subject: I ordered the wrong fuel filter
Date Posted: August-02-2013 at 2:36am
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1984 Ski Nautique 2001 Engine Model PRD WR R10 Pleasurecraft Marine Right-Hand Rotation from Rear 351 CID -- 255 h.p. Warner Velvet Drive Model 10-17-003 Direct Drive (1:1) Mallory YLM554DV Distributor Conversion As soon as I got the fuel filter I ordered, I knew I had ordered the wrong one. Here's my fuel pump, and the fuel filter is inside the lower bowl, right?  Here's the fuel filter I ordered like a dummy...   What's the right part number for the fuel filter in my fuel pump on my 1984 SN2001 351W? While I'm at it, what's the right part number for the carb inlet filter, where the hard line goes into front left corner of the Holley 4-barrel carb? I need to look more closely at the taper lock fitting nuts for that inlet line going into the carb. I didn't see any flats on the larger fitting. Not sure what the line wrench would be grabbing. I'm wondering if I'm going to find a bunch of dissolving fuel line in my filter bowl. Damn ethanol crap around here, idiot politicians. Anything to fill the campaign coffers. 
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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: August-02-2013 at 2:34pm
| My fuel filter is in the front of the engine in what looks like a remote oil filter housing... I don't have any pictures at the moment, but would think you probably have a remote filter as well... see where the fuel lines go from the tank and confirm. If you think the filter bowl on the bottom of the pump is the only one, I'd take the bowl off, and compare old filter with what is available on SKIDIM or N3's websites |
Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: August-02-2013 at 3:15pm
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I too have an 84 SN and the fuel/water separator filter that you have ordered goes in the location where Dreaming described. That is the standard location. It should be on the port side of the ski pylon. Note that the fuel/water separator is probably going to be very tough to unscrew. You'll need to remove the fuel hoses (clamp them first) and you should open the drain from the bottom to let it drain out. Take the whole assembly out and put it in a vise and use a filter strap wrench to remove it. Here's the location:  ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: boardersdad
Date Posted: August-02-2013 at 6:20pm
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Thanks for the replies. I do not have the remote fuel/water separator filter. The fuel line runs straight from the back to the fuel pump and attaches as shown in my first photo. It's interesting that in the 1978 Ford Marine Power Products 302-351 Parts List, the fuel filter is listed with a bowl and filter element. The worthless list gives no part numbers, though. The old Pleasurecraft Owners Manual (can't find a date in it) says:
I'll eventually switch to that, but for now I just want to change the filter. I think Skidim has the right filter:
But of course I'm trying to order this on a Friday afternoon and they closed at 3 pm Eastern.................... You know, that filter looks an awful lot like the fuel pump filter element in my Mercruiser 140 fuel pump, I think I'll compare them. |
"PCM recommends the use of a Remote Mounted fuel filter and/or water separator and fuel filter on all its engines. Fuel filters are not standard with PCM engines, however, we do offer them as an option to all Boat Builders and Dealers."Posted By: ny_nautique
Date Posted: August-02-2013 at 9:01pm
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Do you have a NAPA near you? You may be able to find it there. That's an interesting note you found in the manual. Post some more pics of your boat and engine if you get a chance. ------------- - Jeff 1999 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: lakedog55
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 12:20am
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Napa has them, I would recommend putting some type of seperater/filter on the boat. It is supposed to have one. ------------- Lakedog55 |
Posted By: lakedog55
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 12:21am
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Napa has them, I would recommend putting some type of seperater/filter on the boat. It is supposed to have one. I would als bring your old filter with you to napa.they have a couple of different sizes and if you get the wrong clerk your going to be going back again. ------------- Lakedog55 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 11:31am
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You don't have an Indmar why are you ordering Indmar parts? ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 1:29pm
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Go to NAPA and ask for this filter with their part number sme 187860. This should be it but take yours to compare. I think that this pump is used on Mercruisers and Commanders. It was also a replacement pump that would fit small block Fords and sold by Summit ,ski dim and others. I bought one for a spare before I was able to rebuild my original pump. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 1:56pm
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were there ever any black pcm's? black is usually Merc ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 2:05pm
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Looks like silver under those scratches. Wondering where 255hp came from. ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 2:11pm
All PCMs have been black since ~1994. Of course, his is a '84, so its been repainted. My guess is that it has been apart, since that does not look to be an original fuel pump. The large Fram filter/water separators were added sometime in the '80's... but I cant say for sure whether it should be there on a '84. ------------- |
Posted By: boardersdad
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 7:38pm
| I called NAPA and they ordered me their version of my Mercruiser fuel pump filter, Quicksilver 35-49088Q2, Sierra 187860, but they cross referenced it to a NAPA filter made by Wix. 7 bucks and change. Picked it up this afternoon. I'll compare it when I open the fuel filter. I think it's the same one, if not it'll be a spare for the Merc. |
Posted By: boardersdad
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 7:45pm
From page 4 of the PCM Engine Service Manual, "Horsepower and Type". I can't find any date in that manual. Is it incorrect for a mid-80's engine?  
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Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 5:02am
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Im still wondering why your PCM has Mercruiser parts??? Mix and Match? or? If it's a Chevy you may have 260 horse ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 11:25am
Can't be a Chevy,it's a Carter pump for a Ford. This pump will fit any small block Ford no matter who marinized it,ie MerCruiser, HM, PCM,Commander,Intercepter etc. MerCruiser marinized Fords too. Here is my spare which is the same  Here is my original Carter which after a rebuild have reinstalled  here it is at http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crt-m6696/applications/?prefilter=1" rel="nofollow - Summit ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: boardersdad
Date Posted: August-08-2013 at 8:58pm
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I noticed that the owner's manual says 240 hp, and the service manual says 255 hp. ?? |
Posted By: boardersdad
Date Posted: August-11-2013 at 9:11pm
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NAPA's Wix version of the 187860 fuel filter was the right one. Ay thoughts on the hp question above? |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: August-11-2013 at 9:25pm
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First liar never has a chance,most likely you'd be lucky if it got to either ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: boardersdad
Date Posted: August-11-2013 at 9:42pm
 Yeah, I agree. It's like my old Mercruiser 140. The sterndrive reduces the hp at the prop, plus it's 40 years old. I don't want to know what I really get... but it's been great for the big old pontoon. And I've towed plenty of "new" boats off the water with it.  I'm just curious why one manual says 240 hp and another 255 hp, and where the higher number came from. Maybe it's a later year manual. |