No more hull hugger (fart box)
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Topic: No more hull hugger (fart box)
Posted By: Sam B
Subject: No more hull hugger (fart box)
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 12:38am
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My brother fabbed up a (fart box eliminator). I will run it in the morning. Should sound good. All stainless construction, mandrel bends, and purge tig welded by a class A certified welder. Former fabricator for RCR nascar team. He told me if anyone wants one he would put a price together on them. Should fit any boat with the hull hugger muffler (fart box). http://s272.photobucket.com/user/samb1_2007/media/100_0839_zpsa3994f91.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  [/IMG]http://s272.photobucket.com/user/samb1_2007/media/100_0840_zpse0f3ea78.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  [/IMG]------------- Loud pipes save lives!! 2011 Green Lake Reunion Best of Show. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3391&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1973&yrend=1973" rel="nofollow - Sam's 73 |
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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 1:56pm
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Wow! Looks nice. Would love to hear how it sounds. |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 2:49pm
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AWESOME! Post a sound clip! ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 3:16pm
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That's Hot. ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 3:23pm
It looks like he used 400 series stainless muffler components? You may be disappointed in it's corrosion resistance in a marine environment! Check on the stainless grade he used. If it is 400, a certified welder should know better. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Sam B wrote:Posted By: forvicjr
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 4:04pm
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Come on pete, why you always have to piss in someone's cornflakes! Hell my pipes are aluminiumised steel for now until I order my copper ones. Great work that I see. Only thing I would have done different would have been a more of a Y instead of kick off pipe. Still great looking quality workmanship. ------------- “Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes.” ― Harry S. Truman |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 4:18pm
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in other words the welder you used is a hack and he should probably not be certified is what he is saying in his usual politicly correct gentle way with words.. looks good , if for some reason it only lasts 15 yrs and gets a bit punky looking i am sure you could have another fabricated ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: forvicjr
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 4:26pm
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LMAO, 1234 pure comedy right thir.lol ------------- “Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes.” ― Harry S. Truman |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 5:56pm
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"come on" Vic, I'm not "pissing in any corn flakes" but simply pointing out an important point. Why go to the extent of making a great looking Y pipe conversion and not using a the best grade of material?? There are several grades of certified welders but any of the grades should know what material should be used for a marine environment. As Peter mentioned, if he used a 400 series SS, he must be a hack. Sorry, but we'll have to wait for Sam to fill us in on what was actually used. However, I'll bet it's 400 considering the swagged ends and the different diameters used! BTW, why did you use galvanized steel?   Are you shopping at Autozone? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: forvicjr
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 6:10pm
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Pete go back and re read my post. I didn't use galvanized, I used aluminumized, there is a difference. A man of your knowledge should know this.Also its temporary as I didn't know if I would like it and I do so I'll be ordering copper. What im saying though is you should have asked what material after you complemented the qaulity. Then if he replied with inefficient material use inform him then. Not beat the poor guy down before you even know what he used. I tell ya common sence and politeness is scarce. Unbelievable. ........... ------------- “Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes.” ― Harry S. Truman |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 6:20pm
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Nice! I agree, the hull-hugger does make for an annoying exhaust note in the 2000-3000ish range. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: forvicjr
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 6:26pm
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Anyway Sam it looks killer. My aluminumised steel has lasted over a year and with no sign of rust. Yours will last as long as you will probably need it. Great enginuity (spelling?) and design. If I needed that type of setup I would run it. Not going to turn your post into something else.... vic ------------- “Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes.” ― Harry S. Truman |
Posted By: Florida Inboards
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 6:58pm
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Very Cool! yes would like to know cost! ------------- Money Talks! BS Walks! and loose change rides the bus!!! |
Posted By: 89Martinique
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 7:25pm
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sound clip by chance? ------------- Current Boats: 1992 Supra Comp-TS6M PCM 351w HO Pro Boss Pro-Tec Ignition - Full Composite (no wood stingers!) 1989 (3rd Gen) Correct Craft Martinique B/R PCM 351w Power Plus 1984 E-Scow Keuka Lake, |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 7:53pm
Vic, Sorry I missed the aluninized VS the galvanized. Yes, I do know the difference. In a salt spray test the galvanized will out perform the aluminized by far. I understand it's "temporary" and I was just asking why you went with the temporary. Understand it's the inside of the pipe that is the concern and not the outside you are looking at. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: forvicjr
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 8:09pm
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Pete I didnt specify but the pipe is aluminumised inside and out. The reason for this is I didnt want to spend big bucks on copper if I didnt like it. Fourty bucks or way more for copper. See now? ------------- “Tact is the ability to step on a man's toes without messing up the shine on his shoes.” ― Harry S. Truman |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 8:19pm
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Looks sweet. Get that youtube video up so we can hear it. ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 9:06pm
are you alright? when in the first post did you ever mention it was great looking. ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: August-03-2013 at 9:14pm
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I used plain mild steel 90's on mine when I first did it.They replaced the rubber ones that connected up to the risers to make the turn to go under the floor. The rubber originals lasted 18 years and needed to be replaced when I got the boat.The plain steel ones lasted 21 years--- ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Sam B
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 12:45am
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Had the boat out tody it sounds kick but!!!I will try and take a vidio of it next time out. The stainless used on this PROTOTYPE is the cheeper stainless. Yes he did tell me it would show some signs of corosion over time. But I bought the cheeper stuff from jegs not knowing if it would be to loud for my liking or how it would fit in the boat. Now that I know it works and isn't to loud we will make all pipes from this point forward out of the better stainless. I also noticed an increase of power after installing this. So glad I removed the fart box! Pete! You the man!!!! ------------- Loud pipes save lives!! 2011 Green Lake Reunion Best of Show. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3391&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1973&yrend=1973" rel="nofollow - Sam's 73 |
Posted By: Sam B
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 12:55am
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Pete. If your calling my brother a hack I would put his list of acomplishment against your any day! I know your a very knoledgeable guy. But please don't insult people you don't even know. I don't recal him nor I ever insulting you. Sam Brundidge ------------- Loud pipes save lives!! 2011 Green Lake Reunion Best of Show. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3391&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1973&yrend=1973" rel="nofollow - Sam's 73 |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 9:41am
 ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: Got Tiques
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 9:47am
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Sam, Sounds like a nice upgrade. Post the price, and some overall lengths, and space between the two inlets, for assurance measurements. Might well be interested. Thanks, Todd ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=4811" rel="nofollow - '78 Ski Tique |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 10:36am
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I'm guessing Pete didn't get to ride any inflatables yesterday and may be a little grumpy. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 10:40am
Sam, If you are referring to me and not 1234, keep in mind he was the one who brought up the word "hack".
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Nautiquehunter
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 10:43am
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At the risk of sounding ignorant I have to ask. What is a Fart Box? Can somebody post a pic so I can understand what you are talking about? |
Posted By: Sam B
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 10:56am
Fart box is a name my kids gave the muffler in my 96. They thought it sounded like the boat was farting at idle. They like the sound of our 73 alot better. Open pipes! I don't have a pic of the muffler at this point but I will put one up tonight if somebody else doesn't Sam ------------- Loud pipes save lives!! 2011 Green Lake Reunion Best of Show. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3391&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1973&yrend=1973" rel="nofollow - Sam's 73 |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 2:55pm
| Pete B, Pete C's comment was a bit sarcastic. CCF loves Pete B but we scratch our heads wondering why you're critical of people actually working on their own boats. |
Posted By: Nauti87
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 9:07pm
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There was a brand new SAN hanging out with us today,, it was way too quiet! Sounded like a pleasure cruiser. ------------- 1987 SN 2001 Barn Find aka "Nauti" (sold sadly) 1988 MC Anniversary Prostar 190 |
Posted By: 89Martinique
Date Posted: August-04-2013 at 11:13pm
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Almost there, just add another 3.5" outlet and your set to be heard over 2 miles! ------------- Current Boats: 1992 Supra Comp-TS6M PCM 351w HO Pro Boss Pro-Tec Ignition - Full Composite (no wood stingers!) 1989 (3rd Gen) Correct Craft Martinique B/R PCM 351w Power Plus 1984 E-Scow Keuka Lake, |
Posted By: cadunkle
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 1:52pm
| I won't assume anything abotu the type of stainless used since it was not specified. The issue I see is the two pipes y into a smaller diameter and then into a larger diameter. each side should immediately dump into the larger diameter to maintain flow and not create a restriction. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 1:58pm
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Good point but I'd bet the original muffler was more restrictive than what he did ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jdmoore59
Date Posted: August-05-2013 at 5:26pm
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When can I get one and how much? For the upgraded Stainless, of course. ------------- 2001 Super Sport |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 12:47pm
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Good grief! When did this place turn into the hot spot for people ***************ting on others' ideas & work? Here's a little something I've learned over the last 27 years of my life (yeah, I know... real old & crotchety here!) "Just because it's not the way you'd have done it, doesn't make it wrong." ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 12:53pm
Nathan: You won't get to be a Grand Poo-bah around here with THAT attitude young man - Come on !  ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 1:11pm
I guess I'll always have something to aspire to achieve in my life... ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: Foot_Fungus
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 4:05pm
Don't mind him. He tried to call me a hack for the exact same thing a few months ago(well it had to do with mandrel bending metals, but involved the same metals in question). And even after listing my c.v. he still wanted to be nasty. Pete failed "how to play nicely with others" in kindergarten. I've decided to assume he means well and just isn't good with using his "speaking words" to convey his opinions properly. I wouldn't worry about the grade you'll get more than a few years use out of that, assuming fresh water. And you're right for the price I'd do the exact same thing and if I had to redo it again in a few years so be it well worth the savings. Hell if your brother has a jig I'd have him make a spare or 2 and just swap it out every few years. On that note let me know a ballpark price. I wouldn't mind having him make something very similar for me. Mine would be closer to a true y-pipe for a 3.5" in and 4" out. ------------- '94SN Restoration underway... |
Posted By: Caribe1978
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 4:23pm
| Don't know what Pete's problem is lately. He has certainly received enough criticism to realize most of his posts are out of line, but he doesn't seem to recognize he has a problem. (They say that's the first step to recovery) He used to be a valuable asset to the forum, now he's just the crazy old uncle you try to keep locked up in the attic. It's odd that someone with so much knowledge is so insecure that he feels he has to prove himself by cutting everyone down at every possible opportunity. Kind of sad, actually. It's gotten to the point that the cheap gold spam posts are more valuable to this forum than his stupid rants are. |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 4:39pm
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Caribe (New Pete B)... Welcome to the forum, I see you joined yesterday? Glad to have you. The movement by many lately on this site is to be critical..... now we are piling on Ol' Pete B..... He has contributed a lot to this site and is no newbie. I think we ALL need to make our manners, support folks and quit the rants..... so, that being said: Creative solution to the "fart box" issue - I like it...........! ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: August-06-2013 at 4:52pm
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From a fart box to a pee pee whacking, lol Don't mind Pete, just be thankful he's not your proctologist!! Think his plate has been a bit full lately, do know him and know he means well despite his keyboard side manor, which at times needs some work. One time he should not heed his own advice and "Modify the Chit out of it" Back on subject, would think if this other material is only good for a few season probably not a good idea for the average user considering a failure could result in taking on some significant water. Either way pretty cool, we have copper tubes in place of mufflers on the Martinique project, can't wait to hear that one run. |
Posted By: screamin eagle
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 12:23am
| Sam B I am interested in on of these y pipes or to talk to you a little bit more about it! Is there a horsepower increase/ Is this a lot louder then the original muffler? Thanks! |
Posted By: Spooky
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 4:03am
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^ So am I! |
Posted By: boardersdad
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 4:59am
Here's mine...    Any comments?  C'mon people, lighten up. . |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 9:20am
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Steve - Did you use marine grade duct tape? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 9:31am
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If I went to that much effort I would glue it up and run it! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 11:10am
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The duct tape would hold better if Helen Keller didn't wrap it. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: Tadpole
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 1:55pm
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Is is 3 1/2 into 4 and how much? ------------- 1993 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 3:22pm
| Subscribed....I as well would be interested in one for my 95. It doesnt have the Hull Hugger, but it has the large fiberglass one that takes up a lot of space on the rear of the motor. |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: August-21-2013 at 3:45pm
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What did the old look like? I've never seen it. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: Tadpole
Date Posted: August-22-2013 at 11:48am
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My 93 has the same set up for the muffler, and I would be interested. ------------- 1993 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: August-24-2013 at 10:36pm
You just need a Y-Pipe. Contact Matt S. at Race City Marine in Mooresville, NC. He can get you one. He is a Correct Craft Dealer. |
Posted By: levinmark
Date Posted: August-25-2013 at 9:58am
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If anyone is interested, I have a fiber glass y-pipe for sale that ski dim had made for me. It is for our 96' ski. It sounds great, just a little to loud for my liking. We only ran it for maybe three outings and I went back to the hull hugger. I'll try to get a pic posted of it. ------------- levin |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-25-2013 at 10:46am
 ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Tadpole
Date Posted: August-25-2013 at 8:46pm
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Is is 3 1/2 into 4 and how much? ------------- 1993 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: levinmark
Date Posted: August-26-2013 at 8:04am
The Y-pipe is 3-1/2" into 4". Here is a pic. Any one interested can pm me. ------------- levin |
Posted By: DHart
Date Posted: January-31-2015 at 11:12am
| Did anyone buy one of these stainless pipes from Sam? Looks like quite a few inquiries were made. If they are still available, I know someone who wants one. |
Posted By: levinmark
Date Posted: January-31-2015 at 12:00pm
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Pete, you'll be happy to know that I put the y-pipe back on last season! Just couldn't resist the rumble. It does sound pretty darn good. ------------- levin |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: January-31-2015 at 1:32pm
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I ended up with one but my boat doesn't have a motor in it yet.
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Posted By: DHart
Date Posted: January-31-2015 at 1:38pm
| Trey do you have Sam's contact info? He hasn't been on the site for a couple months. Send me a PM if you don't mind. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-31-2015 at 2:55pm
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