Tahoe/Yukon vs. Expedition vs. Sequoia
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Topic: Tahoe/Yukon vs. Expedition vs. Sequoia
Posted By: M3Fan
Subject: Tahoe/Yukon vs. Expedition vs. Sequoia
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 12:16am
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We need a giant SUV with real 3 row seating and towing chops at this point in our lives. Being as objective as possible, what are your thoughts on these 3 platforms based on real-world experience? Current model version experience only, please. No Japanese vs. US stuff or old legendary car stories if possible. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
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Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 1:22am
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I don't know anything about the Sequoia's. Just having bought my Tahoe in August I did look closely at Tahoe/Yukon vs. Expedition. My take was that the capability, load hauling, towing, and drive were very similar. Both platforms are very smooth, but don't handle all that well with the big SUV body roll. I didn't test drive a Tahoe Z71 with the tighter suspension, my guess is it handles better but I was looking for smooth and quiet. My Tahoe is extremely smooth, very quiet. I test drove the LT without auto-ride and bought the LTZ with autoride, thought it was smoother and wanted the automatic load leveling. My take was the Expedition is a bit better dollar value, same vehicle capability for less money. But, I MUCH preferred the styling of the Tahoe, thought the interior was more up to date as well. I don't think you can go wrong with either as a super comfortable tow vehicle and people hauler. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 8:51am
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 9:37am
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Don't really know what kind of answers you expect. Your asking for real world current experience? Anyone who's just dropped 40,50k+ is not going to tell you that they didn't make the best buying decision of their life,it's just human nature. Other than JBear I don't think anyone here has put in more time,35 years,8+ hours a day in domestic vehicles. Worked out of them,ate in them,slept in them,abused them. Never paid for gas,repairs,or towing. For what it's worth Fords were first,GM's second,Chryslers distant third. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 9:46am
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We have an Expedition (I drive an Avalanche). My buddy has Yukons, both a regular, and a Denalli. We both tow boats and other toys. Even though I own the Expedition, I like the Yukon better, with one exception. Our rear seats stow away in the floor when not in use. To remove the back row of seats from the GM, the seats have to be removed from the truck. That is the main reason we bought the Ford,and have not regretted it. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 10:52am
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Tim, love the LC, always have, but the late model ones are just too much $$$ and are more geared for hard-core offroad rather than straight up interior space which is what we need and we are anti-minivan. Gary, I said current version not current model year. All three platforms have been around for some time now, though I heard a major redo of the Tahoe/Burbo/Yukon is just around the corner. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 11:05am
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Sounds like the Dodge SXT would be perfect for you. http://www.dodgecurrentoffers.com/en/grand_caravan/sxt/" rel="nofollow - http://www.dodgecurrentoffers.com/en/grand_caravan/sxt/ |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 11:24am
Steve, what do you think of the towing capability of the EX vs. your Av or the Yukons? When I as researching, there was a bit of an internet tilt toward the Ford for towing, that it had more low end torque. Then again, I saw a lot of criticism of the GM 5.3 as not having enough power, but for me it's as much power as I could need, really a strong engine from my point of view. You are absolutely right about the seats, that feature sucks in the Tahoe. I've had one or both seats out a number of times and it's a pain, they are heavy, and then I'm thinking what if I need the seats with them back in my garage. I would hope they fix that on the next version. New Tahoe/Yukon/Sub comes out for 2015. Avalanche is sadly gone. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
tullfooter wrote:Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 11:26am
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Joel, Have had a couple Suburbans and now have a Tahoe LTZ, they have been very dependable vehicles with the exception of alternators, also had to replace a front hub on my 99', otherwise pretty bulletproof. The seating can vary quite a bit, middle row captains chairs makes access to third row much easier but you do give up a seat. My Tahoe has 2 rows of captains chairs (sim) so only seats 6. The space behind the third row is of course much bigger in the Burbans/XL's, if the 3rd row seat is removed it's huge back there. If you go with the GM think about your seating, bench in the 2nd row still leaves you 5 seats with the 3rd row removed, cargo space behind the 3rd row gets tight with the Tahoe. Both size GM's tow great, typically only lose a couple MPG towing if you aren't hauling azz. Towing Alan's 200 with his trampoline bimini doing 75-80 down to Tennessee we were getting single digit mileage however, lol Bottom line, would highly recommend the GM. Good Luck with whatever you choose!! |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 12:12pm
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Joel, based on your taste in vehicles, I think the LC would look a lot more appropriate in your garage than the other choices you mentioned! I hear you on the space thing... I assume youve taken a look at one and determined that its just not big enough? I havent, but I would guess that the LC and Tahoe/Yukon would be comparable size wise. Expedition and Sequoia are incrementally larger and have IRS, so should be roomier in back... and obviously the 'Burb is huge. Cost is another thing thats hard to justify when looking at specs on paper... I suspect that the LC has a lot of intangibles that dont translate well to a spec sheet. Going with something a few model years older with slightly higher miles would probably get you close to the same ballpark though... if the size isnt a total deal breaker. The domestic offerings are pretty attractive, I have to admit (my next vehicle will most likely be a full size pick up)... but I think you're allowed to have higher expectations of a vehicle like a LC than the others mentioned. Youve been spoiled with the 4R and its barely broken in (165k on mine now)! |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 12:35pm
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With a quick look on the interwebz I found a 2010 LC nearby with 65K on the clock for $45K. Can't justify that money for that many miles regardless of how elite and fitting it would be. New you're deep in to the 60's and 70's. I checked out the 100 series extensively as I've always admired them but it's only incrementally bigger than the 4R and those are getting way up there in age and mileage. I would definitely exchange some space for eliteness but the numbers just don't work. I'd like to end up in the 40's if possible. The equity I have in the 4R would be a pittance on a 65K vehicle. We don't really need 3 rows PLUS cargo behind it I suppose, as 3 rows would be for around town kid/friend hauling and road trips would be a 2nd-row-only affair so the 2nd row just needs to be wide and roomy. As such I suppose we don't need the super-stretch SUVs but definitely need something full-size. I have not gone out and measured these cars with a caliper TRB-style at this point. Just spitballing and trying to limit time spent at the dealers browsing. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: Florida Inboards
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 12:44pm
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I am currently Resurrecting my 96 Tahoe 4X4. 250 Thousand miles on it. I have already rebuilt the trans,rear end, front end basically went completely through the whole truck engine and all. It was a great buy for me in 02 I paid $5K for it and it had less than a hundred thousand miles. Will post some pictures after it comes out of the paint booth next week. Anyway these trucks are great and their are a lot of real nice garage kept Tahoe's and Suburbans on the market that are priced right. ------------- Money Talks! BS Walks! and loose change rides the bus!!! |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 12:56pm
Quinner, take a closer look at that 3rd row seat, it seats 3, belts and all. So, with 2nd row captains you seat 7 total, with 2nd row bench like I have you seat 8. I had to search a bit to find a used LTZ with the rear bench, most have captains chairs. I like the bench for exactly what you mention, can seat 3 kids and still have the 3rd row folded or removed. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 1:10pm
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David I will look closer, my 3rd row is 2 separate seats with a built in console in each chair, rarely have them in the truck, only when needed. |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 4:25pm
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Oh, sounds like my bad on that one, I've never seen that setup. Mine are a 2-part bench that has 3 sets of seat belts. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 6:13pm
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I'm in no hurry but I have been starting to look too,as we now have 2 vehicles per family member and something needs to be done.I am leaning toward an Avalanche as I like their look. If it wasn't for the poor seats in the Lincoln,I'd just keep using it,in my case for what I have invested in it no car or truck can match it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: N2Deep
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 6:47pm
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Not sure about the interior of the Sequoia but it is built on the same platform as the Tundra. I have had zero issues with my Tundra and the power plant has tons of power and tows like a dream. Think the Sequoia is rated around 7.5K towing with the 5.7 I-Force. Toyota reliability is what sold me on Toyota over Ford and Dodge. Have not owned the Tahoe ore Expedition so can't comment on those. Our next vehicle the wife wants the Sequoia cause she loves the Tundra but I never let her drive it. ------------- 1991 SN pulled by a 2010 Tundra |
Posted By: jbach
Date Posted: December-30-2013 at 7:49pm
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my wife has a sequoia, it's been an awesome vehicle. i have a tundra, it's been an awesome vehicle. sequoia has 160K, drives like new, tundra has 100K, drives like new. batteries, tires, oil, filters, repeat. i don't think you can really go wrong with any of your choices though. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-31-2013 at 12:02am
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As I'm mulling this over I'm now, in a "fairly rare" bout of rational thought, thinking about option E. which is just keeping the nearly-perfect, long-paid-for, single owner, totally pampered and over-maintained existing car. Sure it has no 3rd row and sure it's a bit tight on road trips but when I was a kid my family got by just fine in the 80's with 3 kids and a station wagon for crying out loud. Drove across the country like that and we did just fine. Do I really need a new SUV or do I need a change of perspective? ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: Bones71
Date Posted: December-31-2013 at 12:07am
Call the Suze Orman show  payments suck but interest rates are good right now. If it's a good deal and you get a good rate and don't finance too long it is not too bad buying something new. ------------- That money talks, I'll not deny, I heard it once: It said 'Goodbye' |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: December-31-2013 at 1:13am
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Joel, that's one you'll have to answer yourself! The question is how much the added room and newer vehicle is worth to you vs. saving the money. If you are skiing behind a 2001, do you need to spend the money to buy a 196 or a new boat? The wake is so much better, but then again you CAN ski just fine behind the 2001. I was making a similar decision, was driving a very nice 2003 Durango and having a hard time deciding to spend the money on a newer SUV. It took probably a year of off and on thinking about it until I felt like I really wanted the upgrade, and I've had no regrets at all about spending the money. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: December-31-2013 at 1:51am
you got me beat Gary...only spent 33.5 years sleeping in mine..but after driving them all I gotta agree with the way you got 'em rated. BTW..10 years today..last time I pulled outa the Lorain Rd garage..wow did that go fast! john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: December-31-2013 at 5:15pm
I vote E, rock that 4 runner till the wheels fall off and retire 2 years earlier! After that... I find that the tahoe drives like a much smaller vehicle than either the expedition for the sequoia... but havent had to deal with any of the latest models for more than a day or two of rental car usage. However in terms of feel not much difference between the last gen tahoe and expedition and the various ones I have owned. The reality is the expedition is a three row seat vehicle, and the tahoe is a nice, big, capable two row seat vehicle that you can put a third row into but a lot of time you will wish you had left it home. The next generation of tahoe is due out in a bit, if you rocked the current vehicle for 2-3 more years you would have the choice of upgrading to a lightly used next gen if you like it and the early reports of reliablity are favorable, or getting into one of the last years of the current gen which will likely be depreciating fast due to the release of the new model. - BTW, We had 5 kids in my family and none of our station wagons ever had a third row seat. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: December-31-2013 at 7:42pm
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Joel - Keep your old vehicle & just rent a land yacht when you take the family out on the road. You will be money ahead if you count the depreciation of a new vehicle. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: December-31-2013 at 8:02pm
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I'm a Toyota guy, 3 4Runners and a Sequoia. I would recommend the Sequoia, never had any problems with it. Great pulling power, it weights 5,200 lbs and will get up and go, and it's more American made than the others. Stay away from the 4WD Yukon/Tahoe. The pump in the transfer case eats a hole in the transfer case, slowly looses fluid and then locks up. I know three people this has happened to. ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: TX Foilhead
Date Posted: January-01-2014 at 12:19am
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If you really want it to tow, Excursion with a 7.3. Everything up to 03 had the 7.3 and some 03's got them as well. Quick search the other day and I found a handful that had less than 100,000 miles, and most were priced around $20000. |
Posted By: DeepCreekNauti
Date Posted: January-05-2014 at 9:03pm
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Suburban. It holds everything and can pull it all too! Suburban LE #1 was a 2003 and had 205,000 miles on it when I sold it. I only changed the oil (+ normal fluids) , Mass Ox Sensor and a front wheel bearing. Suburban Z71 #2 is a 2012 with 102,00 miles (yes, that is correct) and the only problem has been the Throttle Body sensor on the way to the family for Thanksgiving. Only pisser for me is the warranty is up already b/c of mileage. |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 3:09pm
Really, My Yukon XL just hit 210K Miles. Now needs a brake change for the second time  Power steering shaft broke once. Other than that, nothing but routine maintenance. Just drove it to Tahoe this weekend. 70 to 80 mph, uphill into the Sierra Nevada Mountains - 16.8 mpg up the hill. It has spent 20 to 50 days per year in the Mountains for the last 13 years with no issues of the 4WD system.My brother's Suburban is now at 190K. Similar record of reliability. Toyota's may be fine, I don't know. But to say stay away from the 4WD GMs is, IMHO, Bull. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 3:32pm
Agree the above statement is total BS, Guy's a tool
And that proves it, LOL |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 3:32pm
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Love my 99 Yukon. Bought with 20k miles on it...officially branded a lemon law buyback, it's been great for the last 130k miles. Paid 20k back in 2000. ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 4:43pm
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When I saw Tim D's post, and never hearing about that problem before, I looked for info on it. There's tons of info, but I couldn't tell if it ended in 2007 or not, seemed like most of the problems were before that. It's documented as a plastic retainer clip breaking and causing the pump to rotate slightly and eat a hole in the case. The fix is a metal clip installed in the case to keep the pump from moving. Not that I plan to stay away from GM, just thought I'd mention the problem really exists. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 6:11pm
Well, hoping my new found knowledge of this potential issue won't prove to be a jinx My well used 2001, and brother's well used 2004 have not experienced this issue. Knock wood.BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 7:39pm
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No, No, it's total bullspit. I made it up. Here's a video showing the problem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj5ZS8wOmNk ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 7:49pm
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I can't believe you pulled your transfer case and made that fake video all to try to prove your point. ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 7:56pm
Uh Huh. Don't think I said your claim was not true. I said avoiding GMs because of this potential issue, is Bull. Toyota has experienced many well documented issues including accellerators that stick, airbag issues, and steering cable issues. Those apparently did not keep you from buying Toyota, and would not prevent me from doing so either. Neighbor has a Sequoia with over 150K, which has been relatively trouble free. Has less room than my Yukon XL, and gets worse gas mileage. He knows that and will probably buy another Toyota anyway. Whatever works. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 8:49pm
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New 2015 Tahoes look nice https://www.chevrolet.com/2015-tahoe-full-size-suv.html%20" rel="nofollow - 2015 Tahoe . I might prefer the outgoing LTZ more in the looks department. Definitely worth taking a gander at GM when the time comes. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: January-06-2014 at 8:49pm
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Yeah, the area behind the 3rd row on the Sequoia is pretty much useless. ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: scottb
Date Posted: January-07-2014 at 12:54pm
I agree that the outgoing LTZ looks better at this point, but I'm sure I could/will get used to the 2015. The improvements for the 2015 model would make me hold out for a 2015. Quieter, smoother ride with better fuel economy and fold-flat third row seats make the difference for me. |
Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: January-15-2014 at 8:29pm
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I own a 2007 Tahoe LT 4x4..... Great towing, comfort, ride except for one thing......... Transmission has been replaced twice ( under warranty ). Transfer Case went out last summer on my way back from Lake Pillsbury with 3 kids, dog and wife 2 hours from home. Got stranded in Ukiah and had to leave my truck and boat at the dealer for 2 weeks to get it replaced. had 90k miles, but failed after 5 year warranty, so GM would not cover it ( I did file a claim and it took them 3 months to say no ). $2,100.00 out of my pocket for a part that GM has TSB's out to fix. I'm over it now..... haha ------------- Living outside the wake http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1525 - 95GT-40SNOB |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: January-16-2014 at 1:33am
Is this the same issue that Tim D referenced above? BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: January-16-2014 at 2:13pm
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They told me the main shaft broke, but I'm not sure I believe the story. ------------- Living outside the wake http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1525 - 95GT-40SNOB |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: January-16-2014 at 2:33pm
Wow, that would surprise me as well. Or, maybe the case failed as discussed here, the oil drained out, which caused it to seize and break the shaft. I guess no way to know now! ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |