Marine Grade Plywood needed
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Printed Date: November-17-2024 at 9:35am
Topic: Marine Grade Plywood needed
Posted By: AZ64-X55
Subject: Marine Grade Plywood needed
Date Posted: January-24-2014 at 5:35pm
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I am needing Okoume 9mm plywood for my Dunphy x-55,I did purchase some plywood from Boulter plywood. After Chris form Boulter told me how far superior there plywood was over any other in the states and that he could get it shipped out within 48 hours I decided to get it ordered (Jan 8TH!) He then overcharged my Credit card by $100.00 and did not get it shipped out until the 13th. What ever no big deal, The plywood arrived the 23rd! upon un banding the plywood there was some water stains and some marks on the center of one of the boards (in between the sheets of plywood)When I called Chris about this he Stated that it must have happened in transit!He also started to get pretty hot when I asked him about the marks in in between the sheets of ply ( He says why would I send out bad material? I said because some one in person to pick it up would pass on that sheet and want another!) I have never seen when you have two sheets of plywood and banded together, if one is stained would not both be stained? Also The one sheet that has the worse watermarks is bleached out like it had been sitting on top of the stack for some time in the light and the grain is badly raised. Chris wanted me to send pictures! I sent him the pictures knowing that to see the grain would be a little hard but you can see the stains and the bleached out wood. So Chris tells me to send it ALL back and will not send me out one sheet because of the cost of shipping. So after a sleepless night I email Chris and tell him I will pay for another sheet but not shipping, He agreed and I thought all was well! BUT When I call him today He says he is busy Shipping other Customers materials and will get to it when he can! So I went Above Chris's Head and thought by talking to his Father (Fred) I would get some where.. Wrong again! Now he is hot and bothered and tell me that Chris and Helper spent an hour and a half going threw the stack and they do not have any good plywood with no water marks!! I guess it did not happen in transit just lies and very poor customer service! If any one knows Where I can get some help please respond!  ------------- just do it! |
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Posted By: captbob626
Date Posted: January-27-2014 at 10:52pm
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Sorry to hear about your problem. Nothing worse than poor customer service. You could look in a copy of wooden boat, they always have advertisers in the classifieds. There is condon, Johnson. Hope you make out ok. I recently rebuilt a 56 Chris and bought from hearne lumber in Oxford pa. Good luck. ------------- Bob Meimbresse |
Posted By: Nautiquehunter
Date Posted: January-28-2014 at 11:50am
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Nothing like buying as far away as possible to guaranty a problem. At this point nothing would make me happier then just sending all of it back . But in reality its probably not possible. |
Posted By: AZ64-X55
Date Posted: January-28-2014 at 2:03pm
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Well they did have there plywood picked up, Now I will have to fight to get my money back it seems! As far as buying it far away I do not know what else I could have done? I had researched for suppliers on the west coast for about a year and could not find The plywood needed. But when you read there mission statement on how they take special care when shipping. and talking with the Son of the owner telling me that it is the best I will find. What really disappoints me is they Lied about the water stains to begin with, saying it must have gotten wet in shipping. but after I told them I would pay for another sheet They tell me they spent an hour and a half going threw the stack and do not have any with out water stains! Fred the owner of the Company told he he would credit my card back as soon as they picked up the materiel on Friday but nothing yet, Another LIE ------------- just do it! |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-28-2014 at 2:12pm
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I don't know about your CC but it takes a few [business] days for a transaction to post to my account... Sorry to hear about your problems. ------------- |
Posted By: bhectus
Date Posted: January-29-2014 at 12:23am
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Just call your credit card company, let them know the situation and dispute the charge. ------------- '02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold '87 Barefoot - sold '97 Super Sport Nautique - originally custom built for Walt Meloon '97 Ski Nautique '83 SN 2001 |
Posted By: JB1995Ski
Date Posted: March-11-2014 at 1:05pm
| What are you using it for? Is it a base for something else or will it be on display? I found you can buy regular plywood, not "marine", and coat it with a fiberglas resin and it will last longer than marine grade plywood with varnish. The resin will make it stronger, too. |
Posted By: Nautiquehunter
Date Posted: March-11-2014 at 2:13pm
| Not all plywood is created equal. Marine ply uses water proof glue and does not have any voids in the layers to trap water and then rot. Its not rot proof it still needs to be sealed . You could possibly get away with MDO sign board it has many of the same elements as marine grade at a cheaper price but still not as good as marine. |
Posted By: JB1995Ski
Date Posted: March-11-2014 at 3:02pm
| Agree, but not with all. 95% of most wood glues are water proof. Is it worth $70/sheet more to get marine grade plywood? I would argue not, IF you know what you are doing woodworking wise. You can work it, treat it and seal regular plywood for much, much less. The only thing you are not guaranteed are the voids. |
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: March-11-2014 at 4:18pm
| If you know what you're doing, you won't use standard exterior ply for the outside of any boat. It's not about the treatment, it's about the lack of voids. Just one screw in a void will send a leak all the way to the other end of the sheet. |
Posted By: oldcuda
Date Posted: March-11-2014 at 4:29pm
| Yes worth the extra $$$ you can't see what's between the two outer sheets.Water will migrant thought the sheet.Can't afford to do it right can't afford to do it again.Now I'm starting to sound like Pete! |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-11-2014 at 10:59pm
The X55 hull is brite and Mahogany. AZ, Have you figured out the scarfing yet? BTW, why did you pick Okoume? It wouldn't be my first choice since it's typically used for epoxy encapsulation. It's rot resistance is very poor. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
JB1995Ski wrote:Posted By: AZ64-X55
Date Posted: March-11-2014 at 11:25pm
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Hey Pete, I thought you would have chimed in earlier! I have been practicing on some 1/8" Baltic birch getting about a 3/4" glue joint or scraf. the scraf is much stronger that the rest of the panel and holds up when bent in half the plywood busts up and the glue joint holds up well! what would you use in place of the okoume?? I know we discussed this A while back when you told me a Craig that we should use Meranti. However The Meranti is not flexable. I remember You said that you had the Plywood made for your X-55, I was going to ask you about that and what was it made from? Please any help would be great! ------------- just do it! |
Posted By: juniorwoody
Date Posted: March-12-2014 at 11:55am
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you can get marine plywood from Bateau Boat in Vero Beach, Fl. they are reputable and ship all over the country. i have purchased many sheets from them and always top quality both okume and meranti. ------------- The value of money spent on new adventure far exceeds the value of money saved for the future |
Posted By: AZ64-X55
Date Posted: March-17-2014 at 4:26pm
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So Pete What would you use?? ------------- just do it! |
Posted By: Hooty222
Date Posted: July-16-2014 at 2:02am
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This is the guy (as i recall) that i purchased marine plywood from, One guy owned warehouse around 17 and deer valley (his location is different than shown on google) in PHX .. Call him to get directions otherwise you may get lost. CITY plywood P#(623) 587-1500 ------------- 1986 Ski nautique 351 1988 Barefoot nautique 454 |