1997 Nautique Horn location
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Topic: 1997 Nautique Horn location
Posted By: t0769jg
Subject: 1997 Nautique Horn location
Date Posted: September-11-2015 at 8:19pm
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Team, Where is the horn on my 1997 Nautique located.......and any details to replacement are welcome......? Thanks Jay |
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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-13-2015 at 11:57am
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I believe it's kind of under the windshield behind the air intake. I think I read here at some point that you have to remove the windshield to get to it. What issues are you having with the horn? It may just be a low voltage problem rather than requiring replacement. |
Posted By: t0769jg
Date Posted: September-13-2015 at 12:58pm
| Voltage gauge pegs ..... And hear hear something...... But not a horn....... I replaced the horn switch but still the same?? |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-14-2015 at 11:55am
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Are you getting like a sort of clicking? I'm wondering if the 97 might have a horn relay. Mine does not, it just runs right off of the switch. I kind of doubt if yours has a relay either, might that would be one thing to at least check for. |
Posted By: t0769jg
Date Posted: September-14-2015 at 1:33pm
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Yes. A small clicking noise...... Funny thing is, I can't find the horn.......?? Any thoughts? Thanks jay |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-14-2015 at 9:41pm
What direction does the gauge peg? Better get the VOM out and do some testing before just throwing parts like a switch at it again. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
t0769jg wrote:Posted By: t0769jg
Date Posted: September-14-2015 at 9:51pm
| Towards zero.... |
Posted By: jhersey29
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 12:31am
| The horn is buried in the intake air tube. You have to take off the window believe it or not. Horn trouble is often ground fault. Take the wires off the switch straight to battery and see what you get. |
Posted By: escmanaze
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 3:39am
| So here is an even stupider question: Is the horn button the little orange button on the bottom left? When I first bought my boat 3 years ago I looked for a horn and then eventually just gave up...but the orange button is the one I have never found a use for. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 6:55am
Jim is correct. Horns take plenty of power and the reason many times relays are used since the switch at the dash can't take the load. Check your wiring and you can check it by a direct connect to the battery but I suspect you will get the same results. If the coil in the horn has any of it's winding's shorted, it will draw more than the normal amps and the reason you should get an Ohm reading before you go to the trouble of replacing the horn. If you don't what know the Ohm's law formula, there are some pretty nice on line calculators for Ohm's law. You plug in two of the values and the third value will be calculated for you. In this case, you would put in the Ohm reading, the voltage and amps will come up. I'd say anything over 20 amps and the horn itself is questionable. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 8:43am
No horn for 3 years??? Beside the obvious serious safety issue, particularly at night, that can get you a ticket. In the meantime get a portable air horn, west marine and other sites have them. Super loud, could be the best $10 you'll ever spend.. ------------- 1974 Southwind 18 1975 Century Mark II |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 9:40am
If the orange button is spring loaded, that's most likely it. The horn itself is cleverly (tongue in cheek) concealed inside the air intake somewhere. Not easy to get at. Although, you can use a multimeter set to 12 volts DC to see if you are getting voltage to: 1.) The input side of the switch (may need the dash breaker set to on if you have this) 2.) The output side of the switch when the switch is pressed. As an alternative, you can use a simple test light, but that will just give you a yes/no not how much on voltage. The horn switch just deals with the positive side, you want your ground lead going to the battery negative or a confirmed good ground source. If you find you are indeed getting voltage, then you can check the horn for continuity as Pete mentioned above, by checking the positive and negative wires going to the horn and the multimeter set to ohms. My multimeter actually has a simple continuity mode with a beep, that makes that a little easier. |
Posted By: escmanaze
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 2:57pm
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Spring loaded, yup, so that must be it. I guess my horn is broken also. Time to start fixing I guess. Thanks |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 3:03pm
Please don't guess! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: scootdogydog
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 3:14pm
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I would eliminate the switch for the short term. test the voltage between the two wires going to the switch. if you get roughly 12-13V, touch them together. do you hear the horn? Yes -- it's the switch. No, trace the wire to the horn and repeat the volt test. If the horn gets too much (for some reason), or too little, you won't hear a noise from the horn. it might actually be the horn making that noise with a really low voltage...either way, do as Pete suggests. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7183" rel="nofollow - 1999 Python 1980 Ski Tique 1968 Mustang WIP |
Posted By: jhersey29
Date Posted: September-15-2015 at 3:25pm
| Touching the two wires together will not solve a ground fault. Under that dash is mess of daisy chained grounds. The 1997 had the exact same issue and it was simple a loose ground in the mess of connections under the dash. The dash is pretty easy to take off but personally I like the steering wheel off as well. You can then flip the dash upside down and easily check the connections. Also a 2nd hand is helpful since the dash can be a bit tricky to hold and work on at the same time. |
Posted By: t0769jg
Date Posted: September-16-2015 at 1:53pm
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Any idea where the ground wire should be grounded to? Thanks jay |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-16-2015 at 10:29pm
The ground daisy chain which goes back and is connected to the engine block. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: scootdogydog
Date Posted: September-16-2015 at 11:35pm
Exactly! I would trace connectivity(ohm resistance) between the ground the horn uses with the ground to the engine block. All in all it's a relatively simple electric problem. Given that, it's also relatively easy to supply 12v to the horn (or wires before that) to figure out where your issue lies. A multimeter (or vom as many here can it) will help you isolate your problem in 10 minutes, ha ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7183" rel="nofollow - 1999 Python 1980 Ski Tique 1968 Mustang WIP |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: November-14-2021 at 10:02pm
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Updating this thread - Just changed the horn on 97 Ski 176. The original horn was bad, verified by taking horn wires straight to 12V battery. Above it was mentioned that the windshield needs to be removed. I thought that was ridiculous, so: 1- using LONG needle-nose pliers down the driver side air intake vent, I held the stop nut on the horn and sent my wife under the dash to unscrew the associated bolt in the airbox 2- attached new wires to the old horn wires 3- removed the air box vent tube at the tube base where it joins the floor (clipped cable ties) 4- reached up vent tube, grabbed the old horn and pulled it out, feeding the wires to follow. 5- soldered and heat-shrunk new wires to new horn 6- JB welded stop nut to new horn 7- next day, placed new horn in air box through vent tube, pulling new wires as we go and reattached vent tube ties 8- hold horn assembly up to hole with bolt through it with LONG needle nose pliers through driver side air vent and sent wife back under dash 9- Wife tightens bolt and pulls new wires out to under dash 10- wire horn to horn relay using horn rocker switch as the trigger wire and pos / neg direct from battery 11- enjoy adult beverage with wife (CRITICAL STEP) ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |