1972 mustang w 5.7
Printed From: CorrectCraftFan.com
Category: Repairs and Maintenance
Forum Name: Engine Repair
Forum Discription: Engine problems and solutions
URL: http://www.CorrectCraftFan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37520
Printed Date: August-19-2024 at 7:09pm
Topic: 1972 mustang w 5.7
Posted By: clr517
Subject: 1972 mustang w 5.7
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 10:58am
hello all new to the site. I in the process of trying to put a chevy 5.7 in a 1972 mustang. When i got the boat it was in pieces. now I'm in the process of trying to figure out how to put the puzzle back together. I would like know if anyone hAS done this before? and if any one has any tips or suggestions,or pictures?
|
Replies:
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 11:09am
Casey, Welcome to CCfan. Pictures of your project will certainly help. Is the engine the original to the boat? http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21279&title=shaft-strut-alignment-video" rel="nofollow - So you understand the principals of a direct drive inboard, I suggest you start with taking a look at this video.
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 11:41am
The 307 OMC was an option in '72, so there are Mustangs out there with small block Chevies for sure. You'll need to prop the boat appropriately with the extra cubes. Hopefully you're installing a reverse rotation engine to keep the boat from leaning to stbd excessively.
Welcome!
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 11:44am
Thanks peter! I pretty sure the engine is not original. Im not sure a 5.7 was even an option in 72. ill try and post some pictures as soon as i figure out how to.
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 11:50am
Yes its a reverse rotation engine. what cubes? and whats appropriate?
|
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 12:00pm
Reverse rotation- nice!
350 was never an option in the 16' mustang. The larger displacement (cubic inches) will require a prop with more pitch in order to get optimal performance from it. The most common engine/prop combo for that boat would have been a ~220hp 302 and a 12x14 federal prop. An old school hand finished (federal or oj) 12x15 would be a good place to start. If buying new, splurging on an equivalent sized Acme (1214, 12.5x13) would also be a strong consideration.
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 12:14pm
i just got the engine back from the machine shop(full rebuild). I think ill buy a new prop when i get there. for now i just need to figure on getting the engine back in and working properly. I hope I'm not getting into a bunch of fab work!
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 12:21pm
Casey, Does the engine have adjustable mounts? If so, the install should be pretty easy. If not, then wedges are used between the mounts and stringers. Still not too bad of an install just not as convenient. Keep alignment in mind. I suggest you do/check the strut to log alignment first before you drop the engine in. Speaking of stringers, what's their condition? have you checked them? Now's the time to check without the engine in place.
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 12:24pm
clr517 wrote:
i just got the engine back from the machine shop(full rebuild). | They did know it was a RR correct? There have been some cases where the shop didn't!!
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 12:39pm
the mounts are adjustable! thats good to know. i am going over the strut to log tonight. the stringers had two soft spots that were injectable (not bad) that i glassed over when done. the guys at the shop were aware of the RR. I have to go but thank you two greatly for you time -casey
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 5:26pm
sorry for jumping around. i take it that they are lag bolts that hold the mounts in?
|
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 5:34pm
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 5:37pm
clr517 wrote:
sorry for jumping around. i take it that they are lag bolts that hold the mounts in? | Yes, lags. What I didn't mention is material. In the good old days, The lags were silicon bronze which has a fantastic corrosion resistance but they don't make them anymore. The next best is stainless but, make sure they are type 316. The 18-8 stainless from China you find at the home improvement or hardware will rust. Mcmaster has the 316 in 1 piece quantities.
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 5:41pm
http://www.mcmaster.com/#" rel="nofollow - McMaster Carr Put "lag bolts" in their search.
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 6:59pm
thanks for the info peter. ill make sure to get the type 316
|
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 9:19pm
Gotta say Pete, I've never witnessed Silicon Bronze ever being used as engine lags. I believe most were all grade 5. Fastenal has S/B lags, But they are very expensive and they only have 3/8" and 1/4".
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-15-2015 at 10:59pm
DrCC wrote:
Gotta say Pete, I've never witnessed Silicon Bronze ever being used as
| Come on Al! I thought you went as far back with boats that I do!!!
BTW, I never have checked with Fastenal since I strongly disapprove of the company. Are the S/B lags square or hex heads?
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 10:16am
I went to install the motor mounts yesterday,and noticed that one moves freely and the other is super stiff. are they supposed to move? (this is my first inboard boat)
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 10:26am
Casey, One may be corroded more than the other but, once installed, mounts should be tight both up and down as well as side to side.
How about those pictures?
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 10:31am
I submitted them to the diaries section. isnt thats how its done?
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 10:36am
I should have figured, but you never know. I'm thinking that i just need to tighten them up as they are the adjustable kind.
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 10:52am
clr517 wrote:
I submitted them to the diaries section. isnt thats how its done? | Casey, Submitting to the diary section is great. Keith reviews each submission and then will enter yours. We sure don't want any Matercrafts showing up there!
For posting pictures in the forums, use "post reply" and not the "quick reply" Click on the icon of the tree with the up arrow. Boxes will come up to prompt you for loading from your computer. Some also like myself use a photo hosting site like photobucket. Give it a try.
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 11:37am
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 11:40am
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 11:49am
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 11:50am
Looks all original, Pete will like that part. It's a super clean mustang so I like that part a lot. Team Mustang
------------- 1972 Mustang
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 11:55am
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 11:59am
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 12:01pm
sorry for the sideways shots!
|
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 12:17pm
Interior is super clean as well
------------- 1972 Mustang
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 12:27pm
Chevy350 wrote:
Interior is super clean as well |
the interior is what attracted me to this boat!
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-19-2015 at 2:51pm
Chevy350 wrote:
Interior is super clean as well |
The interior is what attracted me to the boat!
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-20-2015 at 1:17pm
I put the motor and trans in last nigh, now i just have to line it all up.
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 12:17pm
![](uploads/16226/IMG_4048.JPG)
Things are coming together. just trying to figure out the wiring.
|
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 12:35pm
Coming along looking great. Just too bad it's not May or June ish. It's going to be a long winter for you.
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 1:02pm
Gary S wrote:
Coming along looking great. Just too bad it's not May or June ish. It's going to be a long winter for you. |
now its time to pull the sleds to get ready for the snow! i think ill slow down on the boat now that the hard parts are done.
|
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 1:13pm
Wow very nice and welcome to Team RED! The interior looks really good and I like the fact the scoops have been covered with Red Vinyl. Looks like CC went covered and uncovered back in 72' interesting
------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman"
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 1:56pm
thanks Tim! I'm a big red fan
|
Posted By: SWANY
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 4:20pm
Is the windshield from a early 80's tique? The 72' brochure shows a split windshield. Cool project
|
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 5:38pm
I'm guessing 82-84 mustang... I suspect the 82-84 Tique (same as 80-81SN) would be too wide for the 16' boat.
|
Posted By: SWANY
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 6:29pm
I forgot the mustang was made into the 80's. That would make more sense. Regardless that silver straight windshield looks great on those narrow hulls
|
Posted By: Fabcon
Date Posted: October-28-2015 at 11:15pm
Nice Mustang
------------- 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1984 Barefoot Nautique (Parting Out)
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-08-2015 at 7:11am
8122pbrainard wrote:
Yes, lags. What I didn't mention is material. In the good old days, the lags were silicon bronze which has a fantastic corrosion resistance but they don't make them anymore. |
8122pbrainard wrote:
DrCC wrote:
Gotta say Pete, I've never witnessed Silicon Bronze ever being used as engine lags.
| Come on Al! I thought you went as far back with boats that I do!!!
| Al, I was going through and sorting some fasteners, came across these and thought of you immediately! Square head too!!
http://s133.photobucket.com/user/brainard_bucket_bucket/media/DSCF0001_2.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: November-08-2015 at 7:42pm
You find big screws and immediately think of me ? I'm offended !!!
Hang on to those Pete, they're about like having gold. The 3" at fastenal are over 36.00 Each.
Are those earmarked for the Flexi ?
|
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-08-2015 at 8:02pm
Al, No, I bought square head lags as well as bolts and nuts for the complete launch project. They as well as other parts are getting galvanized which is fitting for the era. I found a vendor that only deals in square head fasteners. I'm waiting to sent them for the hot dip just to make sure I have the quantities and sizes correct.
Yes, the Fastenal S/B are sure up there in $$ and they aren't even square heads! Actually, it's their pricing that has turned me off to the company. We tossed them out of the company I worked for after I found out their tactics.
------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow -
54 Atom
/diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique
64 X55 Dunphy
Keep it original, Pete <
|
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-08-2015 at 8:35pm
We used to have all kinds of hot dipped stuff,nothing but the best for the men in the field!
![](uploads/1962/100_1756.JPG)
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport
|
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: November-08-2015 at 10:37pm
Dang Gary and Pete ! that's a big screw you have there.
So, while I was down at the shed taking pictures of mine, I was thinking I was very very glad that none of us were serving any 9th congressional district.
So, Anthony Wiener, if you're watching, This is how you show-off your hardware.
This is all I could come up with on short notice.
![](uploads/170/Bolts-n-Screws.jpg)
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: November-16-2015 at 1:14am
I need a new wiring harness! i have a bunch of bare wires and melted spots. Does any one know of a place to find one or should i just make one? I would rather buy one. -casey
|
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-16-2015 at 9:53am
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: November-16-2015 at 7:41pm
I looke dat the skidim site. I'm not seeing what I'm looking for
|
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-16-2015 at 8:13pm
Don't know if you need the engine harness or the harness from the engine to the dash but http://www.skidim.com/Wiring-Harnesses/products/1155/" rel="nofollow - here is the link to their harness's might be better to call and tell them what your trying to do. See if you can get Vince to help
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport
|
Posted By: Chevy350
Date Posted: November-16-2015 at 9:02pm
Gary S wrote:
See if you can get Vince to help |
Vince and my dad talked on the phone many times in total, probably around 15 hours. Many things that were wrong when we got our engine from them.
------------- 1972 Mustang
|
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: November-16-2015 at 9:40pm
A Bowtie powered Mustang...
....That truly is a CORRECT Craft!!!!
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier
62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: November-17-2015 at 7:24am
[QUOTE=62 wood] A Bowtie powered Mustang...
....That truly is a CORRECT Craft!!!! [/QUOTE
iv never owned an ford and don't plan on it either!
|
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-17-2015 at 9:04am
That's too bad,it limits your boat collection. The afore mentioned Chevy lover has owned quite a menagerie of non GM powered boats
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport
|
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: November-17-2015 at 11:48am
Gary S wrote:
That's too bad,it limits your boat collection. The afore mentioned Chevy lover has owned quite a menagerie of non GM powered boats ![](smileys/smiley3.gif) |
I have owned a few non Bowtie powered Correct Crafts... Thats the price I had to pay to stick with CC... Until now!!
When my buddies saw Ford or Chrysler power in the boat, I would tell them the engines run backwards and the factory figured out they ran better that way than forward.
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier
62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique
|
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-17-2015 at 2:54pm
clr517 wrote:
I looke dat the skidim site. I'm not seeing what I'm looking for
|
Last week got an email from SkiDim, use keyword THANKS for 12% discount through the end of the month.
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: November-17-2015 at 8:59pm
Gary S wrote:
That's too bad,it limits your boat collection. The afore mentioned Chevy lover has owned quite a menagerie of non GM powered boats ![](smileys/smiley3.gif) |
lol..I plan on staying married not boat collecting! i already collect wheel horse mowers.I feel bad for my neighbors.....lol
|
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-17-2015 at 9:35pm
Casey we were just kidding Steve yesterday over on http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37649&PID=487658" rel="nofollow - this thread. He will tell you he likes Chevy's but I think he likes anything with a engine in it
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: April-29-2016 at 12:34pm
Ok, most of the work is done to get the boat fired so I can break in the motor. I had to rebuild the wiring harness. now the problem is that the starter isn't engaging the fly wheel. so it has to be the wrong starter or the fly wheel. right? I had the starter bench tested and every thing looked good.. I can hear the clunk of the Bendix poping out. I'm just not to sure at this point of what to do next.
|
Posted By: DrCC
Date Posted: April-29-2016 at 2:04pm
If your starter has shims, remove the shims.
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: April-29-2016 at 3:52pm
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: April-29-2016 at 4:00pm
standard bendix on a reverse starter or vice versa?
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001
1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video
|
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: April-29-2016 at 4:10pm
You didn't by chance remove/replace the flywheel gear did you?
------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.
Eddie
|
Posted By: clr517
Date Posted: April-29-2016 at 5:27pm
I put the fly wheel on that came in the box of parts. I'm really disappointed in my self for not checking when I had the engine on the lift.
|
|