Help me.
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Topic: Help me.
Posted By: Silver15
Subject: Help me.
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 2:45pm
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Hi all, So I recently bought this boat (Link below) at an insurance auction. Long story short, though multiple correspondences with the auction facility, I was led to believe that I would be helped with a front loader or forklift to load this unit onto my flatbed trailer. As it turns out, they are conveniently not going to help me load it... you know, after I've paid for it. The boat is located in Savannah Ga and I am coming from Orlando this week, (Thurs or fri) hopefully to pick it up with buddy Art Cozier as a hand. We are currently running through mental gymnastics of how I am going to load this thing. Thought I would reach out to any Savannah fans who may be of help? Maybe owning a construction company or having equipment? I've gotten myself in a bit of bind here would truly appreciate any ideas or assistance. You can give me a call or respond to this thread. 407 538 5845 http://www.copart.com/us/Lot/32498505/Photos?SearchId=0" rel="nofollow - boat that I bought ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 2:49pm
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Call a towing company. They can lift it with two tow trucks. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 2:58pm
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Trying to put the whole thing (boat + mangled trailer) on a flatbed? That'll be a tall order without serious equipment to lift from above. Getting the boat up on blocks and then putting it back down on a good (boat) trailer would likely be a bit more straightforward. A good engine hoist makes things easier. Got a good winch? Drag it up! 
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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 3:25pm
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I too was thinking a couple of engine hoists and some blocks would be a good start... use the lifting eyes on the bow/stern, and lift the boat off of the trailer. drag the trailer out from under the boat, and haul it strait to a recycler. You could probably use some 2x4's and some tires to make a bunk system of sorts on a flat bed trailer if that is what you had intended.... take an impact driver and some lag bolts and lag the bunks to the trailer, then tie the whole thing down. it will probably cost you a couple hundred for some used engine hoists on CL if you don't have some already. If you have an adequate boat trailer available, it would sure make the ride home much less of a big deal. I like the tow truck option, but you'd need to have all your ducks in a row to ensure that you're not paying by the hour for futzing around. |
Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 4:52pm
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Think Most ga fans are up around ATL, suggest retitle thread "need help Savannah/Hilton Head/GA Coast " and someone closer may have a place to stick it short term while you assess the trailer. If the trailer is trashed, would think if anyone could borrow a trailer to fit that boat it would be Art. Maybe winch onto rollbed tow truck, take to a marina and have them pick it off and put on borrowed trailer. Lotsa big boats on the coast, would think it'd be a cinch for one of the marinas to pick up a little boat like that down there. Then maybe give the towing co or marina the trailer for damaged, or scrap value, against the cost of the transfer. Or something like that.... ------------- 1974 Southwind 18 1975 Century Mark II |
Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 4:55pm
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Or bring 2 vehicles and have them drop the separate trailer onto flatbed...or just pick the whole thing off the rollbed and put it on a flatbed..... ------------- 1974 Southwind 18 1975 Century Mark II |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 5:00pm
Lol someone didn't click the link. 
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Posted By: 74Wind
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 5:18pm
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Oh.....Yikes. Although...... rollbeds have towed away far worse roadside disasters than that....no harm in asking/ sending the photos for an inquiry I suppose. Total length is also a factor. ------------- 1974 Southwind 18 1975 Century Mark II |
Posted By: GlassSeeker
Date Posted: January-12-2016 at 5:21pm
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Hook up to it and call AAA ------------- This is the life |
Posted By: Eether
Date Posted: January-13-2016 at 12:58am
| Falls under "heavy equipment" but you may check into a small crane rental. It might not be as expensive as you'd think. It'll take longer to strap it down then it will to load it.. |
Posted By: Tmosely1
Date Posted: January-13-2016 at 1:53pm
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My 2 cents.. I would ask copart for a scrap buy bid on the trailer. Have two wreckers meet me maybe an hour after the yard opens. You get there at opening and assess and site adjust the plan. Lift directly behind the stern and then out from one side of the bow. (Inspect that bow ring and the fiberglass around it because it appears to have hit the winch and it may not be a viable lift location) That would give you room to hook up and DRAG the trailer out from under it carefully. I would cut the trailer guards with a sawzall so they don't bump something. Back your trailer under and block it for the ride. You can't have too many blocks, carpet, or foam and the blocks will have to be bolted to the trailer. Use the copart scrap money to pay for your wreckers and a tip if they're helpful. Three side notes.. Take as many tools as you can carry along with a generator. Make sure to fully disclose to the wrecker service what you are doing and they will likely be very helpful. Also let copart know that the time and date you will be there and let them know you need ample access around the boat. Then call and annoy them confirming many times. They want it out as bad as you want it home. |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 12:14am
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Okay, all. Thanks for the thoughts. Call me crazy, but I'd like to try my best to get the trailer home on the chance that I may be able to fix it. I also don't have a V-drive trailer on hand to put it on. At any rate, I think I have come up with a plan. I'm going to use a beam across the back coupled with a series of floor jacks and lifts to block the boat up high enough to slide my low-slung flat bed under. I also worked my way up Copart's chain of command and got to a manager who agreed to try his best to help me get it loaded. Talked to a few local towing companies and even tried to rent a rolloff truck and forklift from Sunbelt. Everybody was either totally booked up, unwilling to help, or really expensive. Hoping my method works. Pics to follow- ever thankful to have Art as a close friend to help. Stay posted, I will update. Leaving in the AM to go get it. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 12:26am
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Good luck... Sounds tricky, but doable with the right equipment- even if basic. I will say that this seems like a lot of effort to go through for a Mastercraft.
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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 10:34am
Heavy equipment would certainly make the job go easier, but with a few helping hands, a little ingenuity and a few basic tools, you would be surprised what you can do. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 11:57am
That trailer should buff right out  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 1:07pm
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My flatbed trailer has a winch mounted to it and if it were me I wouldn't hesitate to drag it right up onto it by the toungue and strap the whole package down as one big package. make sure nothing will fall off and be on your way. a couple sheets of plywood always help me when sliding broken stuff on my trailer. If you dont have a winch head to harbor frieght and get one and a couple chains and bring an extra battery. no need to mount the winch just chain it to somethin strong. its not a long pull. Things i would make sure are in the truck are a floor jack and plenty of blocking, possibly a farm jack or highlift if you have one of those too. plenty of straps chains and a large breaker bar. cordless sawzall, or portable cutting torch. bungee cords and small straps for small hanging pieces. plywood, junk plywood. -Tony ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: oldcuda
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 1:38pm
| I would bring an 8 ft 3500 lb axle with me. Jack it up slide it under and make it semi mobile.that would make loading it a breeze |
Posted By: baitkiller
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 1:43pm
This would work. ------------- Jesus was a bare-footer............. |
Posted By: baitkiller
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 1:43pm
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But seriously folks... Tony has the right idea. How do you think it got to where its at now? Some mouth breathing knuckle dragger winched that girl up on a flat bed wrecker off the interstate then dumped it on the ground in the yard. Do it again. ------------- Jesus was a bare-footer............. |
Posted By: newscotty2001
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 7:38pm
That is exactly what happened when I totaled my Malibu. Only it was upside down! I'll never forget the sounds it made as they pulled it into the flatbed. I knew it was toast at that point. That MC should be no problem with the trailer under it. |
baitkiller wrote:Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 8:32pm
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i like the sawzall with plenty of batteries or generator and line volt sawzall some ubolts and a complete axle assy that you will use when you fix the trailer.. Jack it up, cut some crap off it and bolt the axle under it and go ------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-14-2016 at 8:52pm
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Peter, That's not a bad idea but I don't know how far he'd make it without getting pulled over. It's a few miles between Savanna and Orlando. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 2:21am
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MADE IT HOME IN ONE PIECE. When I arrived at the boat, they had actually lifted it and moved it which made most of my original plan impossible. However, I used this as leverage to make them help me load it. Luckily, the fork lift operator I ended up with was really helpful. Art and I still did several hours with of prep work to make the transition easier including jacking the boat level, removing the axels from the trailer, and blocking the trailer such that it would sit level and comfortably on the flatbed. Was a little bit shy on the tongue weight which resulted in some fish-tailing issues, so we had to keep it below 65mph or so. Here's some pics from the day. Tool setup.  The boat after being leveled out some.  Axels (Both bent and mangled) cut out and out of the way.  The front loader showed up to help making things much easier.   Being set extremely carefully onto the trailer with the blocking we had arranged.  Strapped onto the trailer and headed home. (3 hours later)   ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: DayTony
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 7:16am
nice job. Now, i'm sure a lot of others are also wondering. Whats the damage tally? and what are the plans? part out, rebuild, etc. ------------- 1988 Barefoot nautique-454 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 7:59am
Jake, I sure agree with Tony and yes, I too am wondering what the plan is. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: peter1234
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 9:08am
------------- former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 10:41am
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Nice job, that is one of the more ambitious retrievals we've seen. Sort of surprised they put up such a fuss about not helping you and then show up with that big loader. Seems they could have offered that to you in the beginning at an hourly rate and be done with it. On a side note, can anyone really put a value on Art Cozier? The man is priceless to us here. |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 11:11am
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Congrats! Well done. Obviously nice that they decided to help a bit. The loader certainly simplified the job. Good luck with your project. The boat doesn't look bad. Looks like the trailer took the brunt of the accident. Uhh.....what about the other end of the trip? I am guessing you don't have a loader like that at your house. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 11:22am
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Jake, Did you hear what happened in the accident?
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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 2:01pm
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nice job Jake & Art. Having the trailer as your bunk system certainly helped. I like that you were able to get the help of that loader, it certainly made your job a LOT easier. |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 2:17pm
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I considered the above mentioned idea of shoving the axel back underneath and strapping it in such a way that it would make it down the road but I'm glad I dismissed that idea after seeing the state of the trailer. As for the details, I still don't know much because we got in real late last night, it's been storming all day, and I leave this afternoon for the weekend. What I do know is that I have a bent strut, most likely a bent shaft, and some gelcoat damage to contend with. I did push through the rain and wind to hook up a battery to the boat an hour ago and the engine fired up beautifully as well as most all of the electronics appear to work. I'll get you guys some more detailed pictures of the boat eventually. The task for now is to locate a good v-drive trailer to set it on and come up with a game plan to correct the running gear. If anyone might be interested in some of these trailer parts, just let me know. I have two nice, fancy aluminum wheels with great tires, LED lighting, swing away tongue, and bent up axels with disc brakes. No clue if it has any real value. To echo the rest of you, Art really is an excellent resource and helping hand. He was a fundamental piece in the success of this mission. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: January-15-2016 at 2:29pm
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you should check out the Mastercraft Team Talk Forum for trailers, and for possibly off loading some of the old trailer parts. Cool to hear that it fired up OK and that things appear to work. Edit: Here is a post from not long ago... https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=69508&highlight=trailer |
Posted By: Faceplant
Date Posted: January-16-2016 at 2:01am
| Wonder if there was miscommunication on them not helping you load . I go to copart quite frequently and it is a given that they will load onto flatbed or trailer . |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: January-16-2016 at 2:16am
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How much are thinking for the wheels? just to clarify, there's only two wheels, correct? ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: January-16-2016 at 2:20am
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Oh never mind, looks like they're 5 lug. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: January-20-2016 at 12:43am
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Dreaming, thanks. I am going to join that site for some tech help on this one as well. Faceplant, Copart does not, per policy, help load "heavy duty" or "medium duty" items. So I was told that they would not load this because it is heavy duty. The forklift operator raised no objection to helping me though. Seems like there is a lot of ambiguity there within the company. Not sure what the wheels are worth, but I will throw up some pics once I get them cleaned up. I may end up keeping the trailer for parts for myself but haven't made any real decisions yet. In other news, I got the shaft and strut pulled today. Both are bent, but I have a local machine shop who is optimistic that he can repair them. Will find out for sure tomorrow. Other than that, the boat has some issues with the infamous MDC control module so the gauges do not work apparently. Other than that, it seems ok. Will get some pictures up as progress happens. Thanks for all of the support and ideas. ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: January-26-2016 at 11:04pm
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For those of you interested in the progress of this boat, here's an update. The driveshaft and strut are off to the foundry being straightened, I've got a platform in the mail from Michigan. I actually ended up chopping both of the axles in half and taking the best side of each and welding them together and then welded it to the trailer frame (With some home-made clamping mechanisms for backup. Then I rebuilt all the bunks and bent what I could back into shape and put the boat on it. Now at least I have a trailer dolly of sorts to move v-drive boats around with.      ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |
Posted By: seacamper
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 1:38am
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Nice. Did you get a killer deal on the boat? That is great that you were able to put it all to good use. ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique Boat Bar 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Open Bow 1988 Mastercraft Tristar Closed Bow 1969 Seacamper Houseboat 1986 Harris Pontoon 2004 Seadoo GTX SC + Flydive Xboard 1999 Adventurecraft |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 2:03am
truth.... john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 11:16am
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Very cool story and good progress. Do you have the swim platform? Kevin ------------- Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow |
Posted By: GMacLaren
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 11:29am
My fork lift guy would have been helpful: ------------- -=Grant MacLaren=- Retired Expert http://www.grantmaclaren.com/72skier" rel="nofollow - http://www.grantmaclaren.com/72skier |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 11:45am
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Posted By: ScottZ
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 11:54am
  when I went on my recovery mission I took a good boat trailer and flatbed trailer with me. I was only an hour and a half from me which made it more economical to take 2 vehicles. It was on the side of the highway.. The owner made a few phone calls and from a referral contacted me about recovering it for him. Luckily it was in a location near a friend of mine"s farm and I was able to borrow a couple of his tractors. I ------------- Scott Zuelzke Lake Mitchell , AL 1984 Ski Nautique 1972 Skier |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 12:06pm
Moving a boat is easy when you have the right equipment. Here are Brad and I managing one of Tim's carcasses. Sometimes that extra level of care is important.     ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: ScottZ
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 12:28pm
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Nice ------------- Scott Zuelzke Lake Mitchell , AL 1984 Ski Nautique 1972 Skier |
Posted By: Treybizttu
Date Posted: January-27-2016 at 2:26pm
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Cool to see it being saved. I'm watching a couple boats here locally. One CC and one MC for parts. My buddy picked up a neglected 230vrs this winter. |
Posted By: Silver15
Date Posted: February-12-2016 at 4:11pm
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LOL at the pics. 75, I'm sure that extra level of care helped yield the desired results. Scott, those tractors would have been really useful. For anyone still interested in this project, here's an update. The corrected prop, strut, and shaft have been re-installed and the water was water tested a few days ago. Ran perfect. Really smooth, plenty of power. No mechanical hiccups to speak of. The interior also underwent some intense cleaning and looks pretty good despite a couple tears and some light mildew residual. I used Starbrite's mildew remover and it worked excellent. Would recommend it to anyone with mildew issues. This boat was covered black in some spots with mildew and you can look below to see how it sits now. I also threw in some new speakers for the radio which sound better and look better. Next on the list is correcting some of the gelcoat spots from the accident, mounting platform, buffing exterior, and ordering a freaking $400 MDC computer for the gauges. I was planning to do the gelcoat work myself with help from Art. It's my first go around with gel but I think I can do it. After all of this, she'll be ready for some summer fun I believe.       ------------- 2000 Air/Sport 1978 T16 |