Starter 78' Ski Natique - Commander 351
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Topic: Starter 78' Ski Natique - Commander 351
Posted By: terryskis6
Subject: Starter 78' Ski Natique - Commander 351
Date Posted: July-05-2016 at 4:24pm
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New to forum. Starter is out on 1978' Ski Natique with 351 commander. Does anyone know the proper style and part number. Apparently not as common as others? I am seeing discussions of Right hand rotation, nose depth, fly wheels, etc, but do not know what is correct. . I am hoping someone can provide some guidance. I am need to find a replacement. I called Natiqueparts.com and they don't have a part. Terry ------------- TD |
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: July-05-2016 at 5:22pm
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Hi Terry Assuming your engine is reverse rotation you need a CCW rotating starter with a 2 &3/8 inch nose depth and you have a 157 tooth flywheel. The old style starter which you probably have would have an ARCO part number of 70101. It's discontinued but can still be found at various places. The new style gear reduction starter has an ARCO part number of 70201 and comes with a small wiring harness to make it work inplace of the original style. These are CCW rotating and will spin a reverse rotation engine the right way. You can also cross reference the ARCO part numbers to other brands. Take a look at the ARCO catalog and they have a section explaining starter rotation for LH and RH (reverse rotation) engines. Brace yourself because somebody named Pete will come on soon and ask what's wrong with yours? Can't you tear it apart and fix it yourself? and a few other questions. Just a little advance warning 
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Posted By: terryskis6
Date Posted: July-05-2016 at 6:34pm
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THANK YOU! I wish I had the old one! ...But a well intentioned brother removed it, took it to NAPA and came home with a starter,.... which he promptly broke the cast housing. That's where I step in to try to salvage. In my opinion the original was not the problem, but was not here when the trouble shooting began, and now the starter is gone. So starting from scratch. Couple questions. What does CCW stand for? Is it reasonable to assume I have a 157 tooth fly wheel? Is a 157 larger or smaller than standard? or does this even make sense? P/N 70201 should work. Natiqueparts .com has one, but they thought it would not work on a Commander. Said it had to do with the fly wheel, but no more details. From your post, I should order the 70201 with the kit and be happy. Terry ------------- TD |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: July-05-2016 at 6:57pm
CCW is counterclockwise which is what a reverse rotation 351 needs. The 157 tooth flywheel is smaller than what you'd find on a 351w in a car or truck but it's what the marine 351's have and that's why you need a starter with a 2 &3/8 nose depth(due to bellhousing design). Does your starter mount right under the #4 spark plug? Let someone else chime in here like TR Benj or Gotta Ski but a couple of others with this engine had good luck with the numbers I gave earlier for a REVERSE ROTATION engine. |
terryskis6 wrote:Posted By: terryskis6
Date Posted: July-05-2016 at 7:34pm
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Thank you! CCW & 157 teeth ...got it. Thank you. Starter mounting is under drivers side of engine toward rear of engine & boat. (Boat driver side rear). Terry ------------- TD |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: July-05-2016 at 8:19pm
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Go for it if you get the 70201, your wiring will need a little change at the solenoid on the back of the engine but the instructions and little harness should make it easy..................or you could always ask here KenO |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-06-2016 at 8:11am
Ken, It seems I can't ask my typical question! Terry, The intent of my typical question is to prevent throwing parts at a problem without troubleshooting first. From your response it sounds like you didn't feel the starter was the problem and it's great you were doing some troubleshooting.  Get the new starter and report back with what you find.------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: July-06-2016 at 8:15am
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You mention your "cast housing" being broke., I'm thinking you're talking about the nosepiece on the end of the starter One thing you could do is swap the nosepiece for a good one pretty easily and cheaply too, so don't throw out your broken NAPA starter. KenO Edit Holy crap, Pete doesn't ask his question and I'm sounding rather "Peteish" telling you that you can replace the nosepiece pretty easily 
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