1993 S.N..what to look for?
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Topic: 1993 S.N..what to look for?
Posted By: flyweed
Subject: 1993 S.N..what to look for?
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 12:10am
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Hey guys I just picked up a 1993 Ski Nautique (1700 hours) today for a great price. Anyway, I have two days to have the boat looked over "professionally" as well as myself, before we consider the sale FINAL. I have owned other boats in the past..and know to look for soft spots in wood floors, loose nuts, bolts, hunks of gel coat chipped, etc etc. What ELSE would you say I should keep an eye out for on this boat, before I say it's officially MINE. What will the Marine shop look at when I take it to them for inspection? Do they do cylinder PSI measurements, and such? I just want to be sure I am getting a dependable boat. Thanks for any help Dan ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
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Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 12:37am
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If it's a 93 then it's all fiberglass floor and stringers, no need to worry about soft spots. Take the boat for a spin, see how she rides. And post some pictures. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 12:51am
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LOL...I certainly will post photos as soon as I can. The words "SKI Nautique" on either side are started to fade and peel a bit, and the rear of the boat has NO lettering at all. I'd like to replace the side wall lettering, and I'd like to put Correct Craft across the back. The rest of the boat just needs a good buff and polish of the gel coat..and the teak wood deck needs to be sanded a bit and oiled/sealed. Let me figure out how to post some pics....... Also, is it true you can't pull a tube with this boat? Oh yeah. I am wanting to add a tower next spring as well. Can't wait!! :) ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 12:58am
some photos of my new 93 S.N.     ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 1:46am
Congrats,looks like you got a nice ride and a great project. You might have to wet sand and polish if the buffing don't work. Unfortunately you can't pull a tube with that boat,it is after all a Ski Nautique not a Tube Nautique  You can pull anything you want it's your boat but 99.9 % of the users here like to get their kids to learn a new skill rather than just baby sit them with a tube.------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 2:04am
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Yeah..I have no problems wet sanding either...I've done my old boat, and I've done more headlights than I can shake a stick at, wet sanding, polishing to make em shine like new. I do have a couple gouges into the gel coat on this boat....but I am pretty sure I can fix those up myself as well using some gel coat repair kits. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 2:18am
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It is way more difficult to match the color of the gel than to actually repair it. Check with Spectrum for a color. You most likely have to tint it to match. http://www.spectrumcolor.com/Items.aspx?key=mr&code=CORRECTCRAFT&cat=K&incl_m=T" rel="nofollow - link ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 2:36am
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yeah I hear ya there. I'll definitely consult with them when I go to match it up. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 5:23am
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For 1700 hours it looks pretty darn good. 1700 is a lot but I sold a Nautique with 1500 on it and I know it was still a great boat but at that amount of hours the maintenance it had would determine the value. A glass hull and stringers means nothing rots out and the 351W is one of the best ski boat engines ever built, it likes to work in the RPM range these boats live in. At 1100 hours my 351 needed new heads but the engine with new heads ran like brand new again. If you can do a compression check on the engine with it warm that would give you some idea of the health. Put it on the water, ski it if possible and you will know a lot more. I bought my current boat with only 100 hours on it and it was 19 years old and had to put about $2,000 in parts into it to get it back ship shape, so it is not the amount of hours on the boat it is the care it has had in its life. Hope it works out for you. Mark |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 9:29am
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Congrats on the new boat. We sold our '92 last year with 1800+ hours on it and the motor and trans were in great working order. If the boat was properly maintained, she should be fine. I'm a firm believer in running my toys. I'd rather have a well maintained higher hour boat then a lower hour one that sat unused. ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 12:03pm
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Well this boat was maintained religiously. It was used as a ski and wakeboard boat at a summer boys camp, so it was used for skiing, hence the high hours on it..... but not abused and was maintained by a professional marine shop. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 12:22pm
Nah... Mine has more than 2600 on the clock and stil runs like a beast  And still pulling a showteam as well... ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
MrMcD wrote:Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 12:36pm
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I do assume at some point down the road, hopefully years from now.... I am going to want to do a top end rebuild of the engine. What's an average price to get a top end done on one of these engines?? ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 12:43pm
One of the nice features of the NWZ hull (that's what you have) is the rear to point on the transom. Its a great feature when wanting to tow skiers or err um t ... other things, while you have people on the back seat. ------------- 96 Super Sport Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 1:07pm
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^^ Not a tow point. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 1:22pm
What? The spool tow point just below the transom step plate? Of course it is. It consists simply of a bolt-through design with a fender washer on the back so I wouldn't overload it, but that's what it's for. What other use could it possibly have? |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 1:34pm
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Mooring. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 1:40pm
| Nah. I don't even think cleats were an option- little to no consideration appeared to be given to mooring on this era of cc ski boats. Thought that spool was referenced in the brochure, though didn't see it in '90. Feel free to check the other years. Seemed pretty clear what it was meant for, similar to the transom mounted tow eye installed on 89's. |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 2:02pm
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Definitely a tow point on the slant backs - my sadly abandoned 95 had a warning sticker telling you how much you could safely pull IIRC ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 3:30pm
| it's listed in the brochure as a "Ski Spool" |
Posted By: KRoundy
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 4:21pm
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You can tow from that spool. Just don't tow from the "grab bar". I would not tow a slalom skier, but wakeboard or somebody learning on two skis would not be a problem. The first thing I look for on a 1993 is the Pro-Tec. Yours has been replaced, so you are good to go there. Congrats! ------------- Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique Current: 2016 Ski Nautique 200 Open Bow |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 4:30pm
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Excuse my "newby" ignorance but what is the "Pro-Tec" ??? ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: JPASS
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 4:35pm
ProTec was the original ignition system that was prone to failure. It involved separate coil packs and a "trigger assembly" that emulated a distributor.   ------------- '92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 4:36pm
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Appears to not be a Pro-Boss, so if a standard 351 prob never had the protech?? Either way no protech is a good thing :) I would not be concerned about towing a skier from the spool, would just make sure everything is tight back there first. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 4:37pm
| Protec is the PCM ignition system that came with your boat. It has been replaced with an aftermarket distributor/coil/wires etc.. Also, I have towed basically everything from the rear tow point including other boats with no problems. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 4:39pm
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Dan, The Pro-Tec was an ignition system PCM used from 91 to 94. It wasn't very successful in that it turned out to be very unreliable. After it was discontinued parts also became unobtainable. There are several threads on retrofitting back to a regular distributor. Good that yours has already been converted. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 5:21pm
Uh oh, back to school time! Says HO on the shroud, so it may very well be a Pro Boss. Smaller shroud would indicate it never had Protec though... Might even be a 1:1 RH standard (no SP package). Non-Protec boats 91-94 are pretty few and far between- both 240hp and 285hp versions got it (pro boss wasn't an option until 92). |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 5:34pm
so are we saying this is a "non pro tech" 351 Pro Boss or Not?? LOL....I am getting confused now!  Hey 8122Brainard.... I see you are from Three Lakes Wisconsin! Cool. I have a summer place up in Minocqua, not far from you. Since you have a pretty good knowledge of the S.N's I'd love hit you up, or even look it over sometime, if you have a chance. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 5:41pm
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Dan, The picture you posted shows a distributor so you have no Pro-Tech to worry about. I'm up here in the northwoods permanently since last October so send me a PM or email anytime ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 5:46pm
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Ahh Timmy, Hence the word "prob", lol Here is my old 93' proboss after the protech was trashed, notice the different shroud :)  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 5:53pm
Here is the decal near mine. The problem that comes up using it,which has been posted here years back, is that the rope will eventually loosen it. Mine was loose when I got it,some have cut a piece of pvc pipe split it and snapped it over the spool. The rope then turns on it and it slides on the spool. Says right on there NO tubes ;)  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 6:04pm
Larger shroud is for the Protec (it extended rearward and covered the coil packs), not HO/non-HO dependent (notice that both top decals say HO). HO=ProBoss :) |
Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 6:04pm
| They are designed to spin. Sounds like some have been over tightening the bolt to try and stop it. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 6:30pm
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Come on Timmy and Learn me sumpin What were the motor offerings in 93' and of those which had the Protech Standard 351 - 240hp - ign? ProBoss 351 - 285hp - Protech Ign ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 6:57pm
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So my engine says 5.8 HO on the shroud. Does that mean it's a Pro Boss? and is it then 285hp?? ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 7:02pm
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Both the base 351w (240/255hp) and the ProBoss (i.e. 351w HO) were offered (no HO before '92). You most commonly see them both in lefty rotation with Protec ignition 91-94. All carb through '93, TBI offered starting in 94. Protec was not standard but very widespread. Believe both non-HO and HO versions offered without it. Most of the ones I've seen sans-Protec were RH engines mated to 1:1 transmissions. Most of those being base but some HO's exist (like Randy's). So most permutations of HO/non-Ho, RH/LH and Protec/dist were apparently offered. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 7:04pm
Carb' ProBoss was rated 285hp... But the shroud is not strong evidence. Take a picture of the end of a head, GT40 heads have 2 bars. |
Posted By: IAughtNaut
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 7:40pm
looks like with all the engine chatter you guys missed something. don't seal the teak. sanded? good oiled? good sealed? bad there are several great threads about care/maintenance/cleaning/oiling teak on here, do a Google search for something like "site:correctcraftfan.com teak" or check the FAQ thread that Dreaming put up, I think a few of them are linked in there. ------------- bring the ruckus http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5347" rel="nofollow - 2000 Pro Air |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 7:58pm
If it was designed to spin why did they not use a shouldered bolt so it could not be over tightened ? If it were left loose would that not create a pressure point and damage the gel ? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 8:13pm
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Next time I take my boat out I will have to look at it closer. Mine has always spun and has not become any looser than it was when I got it in '93. From memory I think my gel is slightly discolored under the spool but I would think cranking it down would damage the gel more than allowing it to spin. And of course I don't know if it was designed that way or not I was just starting a controversy.
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 8:30pm
Mine spun too,so I tightened it  I do know it has a nylon lock nut on it,so once it's loose it won't get any looser ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 8:49pm
| Sounds like you altered it's originality. They probably used a feeler gauge to set it to the correct spin height rather than a shoulder bolt since the gel thickness probably varies a little bit between boats. Pretty sure mine had never been used when I bought it. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 9:06pm
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Can you measure yours so I can get mine back to OE specs before someone finds out ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: desertskier
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 9:57pm
| Just keep using the split PVC pipe and it will work fine. Almost as well as it did from the factory. |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 10:21pm
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IAughtNaught......Sorry, I didn't mean "seal" it....I have had teak wood on boats in the past, and am familiar with the sanding and oiling process. I won't seal the wood. :) Thanks for all of your guys help on my new boat. I am sure I'll have more questions before I even get it in the water. Oh...I know one of my questions.....how to you start this boat OUT of the water? I am use to putting "muffs" on my outdrive for my outboards and I/O's....how do you do it with a Nautique?? ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: July-12-2016 at 11:36pm
Dan, Have you run across the FAQ thread in the forums maintenance section yet? It has links to threads on almost anything. If you can't find something, we are always around. In that tread, look for "Timmy T" . It's simply a tee on the suction side of the RWP (raw water pump) where you hook up the garden hose. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-14-2016 at 7:07pm
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Yep, been reading up all the FAQ's I can take in, until my brain starts to hurt! :) I'll keep reading. I just want to be well prepared for ownership of this boat, especially with fall/winter in the not so distant future. I want to know how to change the fluids, filters, belts, plugs, winterize it properly, etc etc. Thanks again for all the advice. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-14-2016 at 7:35pm
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Would you guys say my SN color combo is the: Charcoal, Silver Cloud, Cranberry? I am going to be removing the old faded side lettering, and then wetsand, and buff the entire thing, and then put on new lettering on the sides and the back as well, since the back is missing ALL lettering. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-22-2016 at 7:45pm
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Hey guys, well finally took possession of my new to me 1993 NWZ nautique. Had my local shop do a thorough inspection and she passed no problem. Compression on all 8 cyl were perfect. I took a bunch of pics to post up here. They are in my files here, just not sure how to get them into this post. Anyway they hull needs a definite wet sand, buff, polish and new decals. Plus a couple areas need some crocket repair. As you'll see in one of the pics where they ran the boat onto the trailer fender and took a gouge out of the gel coat. Also gotta figure out horn, as it doesn't work, otherwise all else does. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-22-2016 at 9:17pm
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Oh also, they took the radio and speakers out of the boat, so I just have the factory speaker holes on either side wall of the boat. What size speakers fit the holes?? Thanks ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-26-2016 at 11:34am
So, is my engine a GT-40? I am just trying to find out as much info as I can, before I have to winterize it this fall. as I want to do it correctly. Get the "Timmy T" added, etc etc. ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-26-2016 at 12:07pm
And here she is..in all her glory. Like I said. I picked it up for $3900, the hull needs some serious wet sanding, buffing and polishing, new decals, etc...but I am going to do that this fall, before I winterize. Otherwise she's in great mechanical condition. Here's some photos: ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-26-2016 at 12:39pm
more photos: As you can see I need to do some wet sanding, buffing, polishing, and one spot that needs some gel coat repair where the hull MET the wheel well of the trailer.          ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-26-2016 at 3:10pm
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Not a GT40. Those came out in 1995 and had multiport EFI. Yours is a carbureted ProBoss, it appears. ProBoss = HO 351w. Not a particularly common sight to see a RH one mated up to a 1:1 but that appears to be what you've got. |
Posted By: flyweed
Date Posted: July-26-2016 at 3:16pm
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Thanks...dumb question but how do you know it's a right hand and mates to a 1:1? I assume that's direct drive? ------------- '93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower Drink Tonight..for tomorrow We Ride! |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: July-26-2016 at 3:19pm
| PRP and the firing order. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: July-27-2016 at 11:19am
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Wow, great deal for a solid '93, very nice find. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: AAM196
Date Posted: September-07-2016 at 4:34pm
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Joel, Noticed a sweet white red white for sale! Slimming the fleet? |