2017 Stringer project
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Printed Date: April-09-2025 at 10:57pm
Topic: 2017 Stringer project
Posted By: Tfreeman
Subject: 2017 Stringer project
Date Posted: January-07-2017 at 12:37pm
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Looks like I'm at a point of being forced to do my stringers on my 83 SN2001. This all started for me with the soft spot in front of the motor box. Being new to boat ownership, I had very little to go on when inspecting this boat. I figured the spot would just need a patch and new carpet. I thought I checked the stringers at the motor mounts but come to find out, the lag bolts were under the carpet and I actually checked the nut and bolt that mounts the motor mounts to the cradle. Had I known better, and appropriately checked, I'd have walked on this boat. Too late now. So far I am at an investigative point, I pulled the interior and disgusting blue camper carpet, pulled the battery box and factory cooler and scooped the soaked foam from that area. This is where the project was supposed to stop, I was going to add storage and move the battery, fix the floor and finish with the gray sheet seadek that I bought on the Black Friday sale. Then I began noticing that the wood portion of the floor was gone and that the top of the main stringers was soft. After pulling the floor in front of the observers seat. Both stringers are soft and wet. We use this boat for wakeboarding then typically end up anchored or tied up with friends. I have not kept it original, added tower, stereo, rear seating etc to better fit our needs. So in my mind I wanted a cheap boat to use for a few years and sell off for a v-drive for the interior space. But we thoroughly enjoyed the boat over last season, which extended in to late October here near Atlanta. I'll be tearing down and getting started as weather permits, I have tool boxes and my wife's new car in the garage so it looks like the tool boxes, swim platform and trailer will need to temporarily go. I will post here with updates as well as questions and photos as it progresses. Ideally it will be useable by summer this year. Appreciate all the help in advance from you all here. |
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Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-07-2017 at 2:00pm
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Sounds good Trevor. Glad you started a thread here and as always, document everything and take plenty of pics and post here and we will chime in and help you with the rebuild. At least our winters aren't too harsh here in GA and you can do a lot of ripping and tearing outside. Keep us in the loop and were here to help and guide you when needed. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-07-2017 at 5:35pm
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Pics I forgot to post earlier. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5192.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5679.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5680.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5681.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-07-2017 at 7:12pm
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Trevor - If space is a problem, some guys have bought a temp car shelter, I think they can be had for a reasonable price. Then you can proceed at your own pace this spring. Really sharp looking boat, BTW! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-07-2017 at 7:27pm
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Thank you, Snobsessed, I thought about that, harbor freight has a really affordable shelter, my concern there is temperatures and the glass work. According to my measurements I can fit her car in the garage with it if the toolboxes are removed and have the ability to close the door with the platform brackets off the boat. I guess we will see. Do you happen to know about leaving it on the trailer and doing one stringer at a time maybe PB'ed in? Then finish after all 4 are in? That would allow it to be mobile and climate controlled at times. |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: January-08-2017 at 12:25am
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Some have done the one stringer at a time method. I am on my phone and I am not sure how long it would take to link some of them, but if you look at my thread "92 Sport floor replacement" I put several links in one of my early posts. Keeping it mobile is good. The grinding dust is awful and your wife will not appreciate it all over her car. I don't know that I would trust just the PB either. Laying some cloth fiberglass on each side of the stringer doesn't take that much more time and gives a better strength. My 2 cents. ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-08-2017 at 10:09am
| Thanks for the advice. I'll look up your thread. |
Posted By: Watauga
Date Posted: January-08-2017 at 3:07pm
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Hi Trevor. Nice looking SN. You have a lot of work ahead of you to get done in a short amount of time. Thankfully you have the advantage of being in Georgia and better weather than some. Depending on how far you go in the rebuild, e.g., upholstery, engine rebuild, trailer rebuild, etc., you will need to invest between 200-400 man-hours or more. Therefore you can do the simple arithmetic of figuring out how much time per week you will need to invest to get her lake-ready by May, or whenever your lake season starts. You can follow the links below to see my rebuild, I didn't have the uninterrupted time to invest in my rebuild, therefore it took me several years to get it done. ------------- http://goo.gl/t8gAkI" rel="nofollow - 1980 Rebuild http://goo.gl/TFsgCy" rel="nofollow - Diary Signpainter, Disaster Responder, Longline Barefooter |
Posted By: rolleronariver
Date Posted: January-08-2017 at 9:40pm
If you start now you should be able to get it done by summer. I did mine in about a month and a half. I would've done it maybe a little quicker if the weather would've cooperated a little better. I still need to put my new carpet in but I'll get it done sometime when it warms up a little. Good luck to ya! It's a lot of work but very rewarding when it's done and the advise on this forum is incredible. Take your time was the best advise I was given. ------------- 92 Sport nautique |
Tfreeman wrote:Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-08-2017 at 10:39pm
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I should have a fair amount of time to work on it. I am a fireman full time, I work a 24 hour shift , then off for 48 hours following that. I also have a pressure washing side business that picks up in the spring. I will not need upholstery work, the trailer could use some attention but it can wait depending on way the time looks like. Motor was seemingly sound this summer so I think it will get a good cleaning before re installing. Also I have a neighbor that's willing to help, he is scratch building an all teak boat right now. Maybe a Chris craft?(edit: he's building a 1924 Palm beach 22) |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 3:03pm
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So I am doing some thinking in between working, sleeping and prepping the boat, I have a few questions. The fresh air hoses, I've seen a few re routed for more space, I would like to do the same. Are the hoses more for fresh air in to the motor box? Or bad air out? Is it designed to flow air in the bow vents, through the bilge, and out the rear vents while moving? Is there any real reason for the hump under the bow or is only for routing the hoses, wiring, and mounting a kick pad for the driver? Thanks. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 3:32pm
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Trevor, Your idea of air in the forward end and out the aft end is correct. You are also correct on the"hump" under the bow is for hose/cable routing and the mounting for the driver kick pad. Yes, many have done better than the factory with the fresh air ducting. I suggest using the thin wall PVC pipe method. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 3:51pm
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There really isn't any space to be gained by re-routing those air ducts... assuming you are keeping the battery in the same location. Flex pvc is much easier to work with than hard wall. Go as big as you can on the cable/wiring conduit... it'll make life easier when you're installing cables down the line. A few benefits of the raised hump ("air box") are: -easy way to mount panels that hide ducting/wiring/etc. -raised height keeps water out (it will find the low point) |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 4:01pm
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Trevor, Tim doesn't know air movement!  The reason I suggested hard wall PVC it due to the rather large restriction of air when flex is used due to the internal corrugations of the flex. At any given static pressure, a smooth duct will allow more air flow. To get the same air flow using flex, you need to go up one size in diameter over a smooth duct. BTW, I don't feel cutting and solvent welding PVC pipe together is that difficult!!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 4:55pm
I would say I know air movement better than you know flex pvc! It is not corrugated on the ID, and it is dimensionally equivalent to hardwall. The reason it is much easier to work with when reconstructing correct crafts is because you don't need to align holes in bulkheads with a laser sight... the flex is forgiving and will accommodate some misalignment. Not to mention the complex bends from the bilge to the stbd side of the boat. You can use the space much more efficiently with the flex since you are not limited by standard bend angles and radiuses. Fewer below-floor joints is a bonus as well. I have rebuilt boats with both and the flex pvc is worth the extra $. Pete, you must be thinking of some other type of hose/pipe. Feel free to dig up the pics in my BFN thread. The most reasonably priced flex of pvc that McMaster sells (at least as of a few years ago) is green. 2.5" nominal gets you close to the original 3" OD of the dryer hose (making connections easier at the top side). Hardwall:  Flex:  
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 7:00pm
Yes, flex ducting varies with the ID construction. Some are really bad for air flow and others that claim to be smooth are smoother but not like hard wall PVC pipe. Here's the green plastic flex from McMaster showing it's not really smooth.:  The other danger with using flex is not stretching it to it's full length leaving lots of corrugations on the ID. BTW, I use the McMaster flex for all the dust connections from the spiral ducting to all the equipment in my shop. I was VERY careful with selecting a flex that was as smooth as possible. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 8:08pm
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I am not talking about flex ducting... I am talking about flexible PVC pipe. It conforms to the same sizing standards as hardwall PVC pipe, and you can mate the 2 types with hard pvc fittings. Can't recall the p/n I ordered from McMaster to be sure if you're looking at the right stuff or not... but it doesn't look like it. Regardless of how it is notionally depicted on their website, (or how it looks in my pic above) I can assure you it is smooth internally and externally. Bend radius is not very tight but its a heck of a lot more forgiving and easy to work with vs hard wall. I am not sure how to make my point more clearly? You are certainly misunderstanding the product I am referring to. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Flexible+pvc+pipe" rel="nofollow - LMGTFY Google image search returns some good results to show the ID is smooth. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 8:18pm
Spa hose. Same stuff lining the guide poles of the late 80s trailers. |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-11-2017 at 11:40pm
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I initially pictured the spa hose reading that above. Seems like a combo of hard walled and flexible pvc might be something to consider. I am not leaving the battery in the stock spot, but I haven't decided on the best spot yet. I have two batteries, one for starting and one for the tunes. I was hoping to turn some of that space in to a little bit of extra storage. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-12-2017 at 8:01am
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Tim, Thanks for clearing up the confusion. Yes, I'm talking "duct" and you're talking "hose/pipe"! Trevor, Getting back to ideal air movement with the least amount of restriction, and if you do go flex, don't go cheap drier ducting and do select something with a smoother ID. Also, I'm sure you noted that Tim used a combination of flex (the green) and hard (the white) on his BFN stringer job. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-12-2017 at 7:29pm
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Thanks for the input I'm taking notes. Today I pulled the rudder, prop and disconnected everything I think I needed to pull the motor. I'm on duty tomorrow so it's coming out before the Falcons play Saturday. Pulled the floor in front of the motor box and raked out the wet foam. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5753.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5754.jpg" rel="nofollow">  The stringers are all soft mushy and wet. I accidentally vaccumed some of one out with the shop vac. Does anyone have a descent list of measurements I should take down? Or is the engine cradle my main concern? Thanks |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-12-2017 at 10:50pm
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Get the engine & pylon back into the same place they started & the other points should fall into place. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-14-2017 at 5:57pm
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Motor is out. Now I'm ready to start some serious work http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5763.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-14-2017 at 6:19pm
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Hope you didn't set that engine down in the truck bed sitting on the oil pan. If you did you will soon find out how unobtanium they are. You need to build a frame out of 2x6's so that it sits on the motor mounts just like it's in the boat----- ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-14-2017 at 11:54pm
| Nope it rode on a tire. With the mounts on it. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-15-2017 at 1:28am
 thats great,some parts are getting hard to come by and thats one of them.------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-15-2017 at 10:52pm
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Is this strainer something from the factory? The mount was loose and it just doesn't seem quite right to me. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5765.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Also I didn't take a pic, but the previous owner swapped the fuel Filter over to a different type of screw on filter. I'm guessing it's in the factory location (on the engine cradle below the fuel pump) because of the marks under the housing from something previously mounted there. Does anyone have a photo of the factory fuel filter in its original location? |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-15-2017 at 11:16pm
| Factory optional Vetus pool strainer and also Fram cartridge fuel filter/water separator. I would stick with the updated spin on fuel filter/separator and would also update the sea water strainer. |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-16-2017 at 7:49pm
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I guess I was trying to find out about the way they are mounted to the engine cradle. The fuel filter housing had two long lag bolts running in to the stringer and is too low to thread on the filter with out loosening the bracket. And the strainer appeared to me like the previous owner tried to catch the rear-most engine cradle bolt and an extra screw, but failed at that. |
Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: January-16-2017 at 9:50pm
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In the photos of several engine compartments, the strainers are visible... they vary in location though some right, some left, some further up than the others. Since this was an optional part (per Hollywood) it was probably left to whomever could run a screwdriver and connect the hose to install as they liked the best. I am not sure there is rhyme or reason to each installed location. I had to remove mine on my previous 82 to get the filter off too... I only did it once, but would have relocated it to a better location during the rebuild. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-16-2017 at 10:03pm
x2. If you identify an opportunity for improvement certainly take it. |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-22-2017 at 12:53am
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I have had a busy couple of days, knocking out projects in order to be prepared to really get started on this project. I spent yesterday spreading gravel in the beautiful 70* sunny weather. It turned out nice and will be the permanent spot for my boat and pressure washer trailer. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6650.png" rel="nofollow">  I'm expecting the gravel to match once the dust is worked off from the weather. The darker stuff has been down for about a month while I prepared the 2nd half. Today I organized the toolboxes and got the rest of the boat stuff into the basement for storage. All this cleared up the work space and let me see what I've got to work with. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5789.jpg" rel="nofollow">  The blue handled concrete spreader is placed on the floor at 7' from the toolboxes. If I put the boat on a moveable dolly, the wife can use her spot to park at night. Of course the rest of the junk will be moved. EDIT: I guess I didn't share this before. Sometime around here I also cut out the floor and got the foam cleaned out. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/48aIMG5779.jpg" rel="nofollow">  END EDIT I guess now I'm looking for ideas and advise on building a dolly, and bracing the boat to keep its shape as ive seen mentioned on other threads. I have a few ideas for the dolly, but I don't really know where to begin with the bracing. Have a good weekend every one, Falcons rise up. |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-22-2017 at 11:51am
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Great looking garage! I think other guys have just put timbers from ground up to stringer areas, esp midship. (after taking load off trailer springs). ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-22-2017 at 1:08pm
| Thanks. So based on your comment, the hulls deform more like a "U" from bow to stern vs side to side? |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-22-2017 at 7:12pm
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Kinda like a mattress, always dips in the middle, never near the end! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-28-2017 at 1:09pm
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Made a little progress this week, I had a subpoena for a court case in which I was a call in witness. I was on call for a week starting Monday, luckily I was not called in, but progress was slow at the beginning of the week. Idk if I mentioned it earlier, but this is NOT a full or original restore, so things are going to be changed to fit my needs. That being said I added a couple pairs of pop up cleats and added a flip up anchor light to the wake tower. Removed the tower and swim platform, test fit the length in my garage and my wife and I had our first ultrasound for our first child coming at the end of August. Then over the cours of Thursday and Friday, I got the boat off the trailer and on a dolly, and in its resting place in the garage. The wife will have her spot in the garage for most nights, assuming things aren't curing or something and preventing me from moving it. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5831.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5832.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Goal for Monday is to at least source whatever lumber I decide to use, and potentially order it and the first bit of epoxy/glass. I'd also like to start with some of the removal of a stringer, I think I'll be doing one at a time to keep the reference points (or whatever is left of them) |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-28-2017 at 2:43pm
| Wow that's a nice dolly. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-28-2017 at 2:53pm
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Trevor, I sure agree with Tim! When you start grinding out the hull, make sure you get your wife's car out of the garage. Trust me, I've been there when I didn't and I still hear about it! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-28-2017 at 3:35pm
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Thanks for the compliments, i really didn't know how to build the thing, so it came about with 2 5'x4' Dolly's that I ended up joining together. It rolls fairly well even with the small casters. Her car will only be inside when I'm not working on the boat. We made an agreement when we moved in, that I can do as I please with the garage but she wanted to park inside, then we bought this car new, so she is particular. I imagine it will still spend a handful of nights outside throughout the project, no big deal. I'll just pull it in at night when I wrap up the day's work. My schedule allows me a lot of days off while she's working, plenty of time for the boat. Any comments on stringer materials? I've read about Coosa and fir. Has anyone done long leaf pine treated with the cpes? I'm about half an hour west of Atlanta. |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 7:22pm
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I CANT FIND LUMBER I have been able to locate Douglas fir in a rough cut 6/4x6" at $6.40 a foot. As far as that goes I can pick it up Wednesday morning when I get off work, it's about 5 minutes from my station. That puts it at 1.5" thick before it sees the planer. So this won't work, correct? I can't locate LVL. My neighbor that's helping me out did his own laminate for the main stringer in his palm beach. Anyway, I got a main out today in 1 "whole" piece. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6651.png" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Dreaming
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 8:06pm
| home depot should be able to order you LVL, but you may have to go to the pro counter instead of just looking on the shelves. I forget what the trade name is for it but I have used it as a ledger board in the past, and am pretty sure we got it at the HD. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 8:15pm
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Lvl = microlam, no? Coosa deserves some consideration but it's more spendy (figure $1k upcharge over wood) and requires some additional process and design considerations. Stringers are usually multi-layer laminations, major pieces (cradle) need to be through bolted, etc. it's great stuff and easy to work with but it complicates things a little- so it'll slow you down a bit. |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 8:44pm
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I didn't consider the pro counter at the depot. The HD website was saying unavailable for purchase (including ordering) within 100 miles of my zip code, I'll stop by and double check tho. Budget does not allot for coosa |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 9:21pm
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Pete can help with HD, he's on the inside! ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 9:37pm
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I had the best luck at a local builder supply. I found a company that supplies them and could get the Douglas fir. I then had to tell the local place that they could get it from their supplier. ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 11:43pm
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Trevor, Any lumber yard plus HD can get you the LVL. No one stocks it because of all the different sizes and lengths! ( you can get it up to 50' long) Our little HD store up here will get it in one to two days max. You order the length needed, the warehouse cuts it to length and then it's shipped to the store/lumber yard. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-30-2017 at 11:49pm
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Where did Greg get the wood for the pumpkin? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: January-31-2017 at 12:14am
+1 john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-31-2017 at 7:50am
I went digging into his thread a couple days ago to see if could find his source but couldn't find it. I didn't read every page though. Maybe someone whose retired can do such. We seem to have a few of those retirees around here with nothing better to do! Nautiquehunter did a Supra comp restore a couple years so I'll give him a shout to see where he got his wood from to help a fellow Georgian out. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-31-2017 at 8:32am
Well, not retired yet, I'm always up early, no work today and the wife is still sleeping so I don't want to work on the house, but here is the place. http://sweetwaterlumber.com/" rel="nofollow - Sweetwater lumber Trevor, The 6/4 doesn't need to be surfaced. Just take the belt sander to it and knock off the high spots and fuzzes. .If you really want it surfaced, you would need to go with 8/4 and run it through the planer. Do route the tops with a radius to make the glass lay down easier. If you go the LVL route, keep in mind the thickness is 1 &3/4" so the width between the stringers needs adjusting. Just put the extra thickness to the outside. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-31-2017 at 9:23am
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Tim, I think Keith did something to the sites search feature since I've been finding it working lots better lately. For the Doug Fir Greg found, I searched his posts using the key word "Douglas" Since the key words are highlighted in yellow, it was an easy scroll through the pages to find. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: January-31-2017 at 10:33am
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Cool beans...Thanks Pete... guess if I ever need to do a stringer job myself I'll have to remember this place.... Trevor....there ya go! ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: January-31-2017 at 11:09am
I think you seriously misunderstand the concept of retired means ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: January-31-2017 at 1:58pm
Ive talked to Sweetwater, they said that small quantities like I need are few and far between, he was supposed to be calling me back Talked to Hardwoods Inc. They have the 6/4 x6 at $6.40/foot. It's too small at 6 Peachstate lumber has none. I will check with HD on the LVL and I did find the distributor for the LVL. At the risk of receiving a digital flogging, what is so bad about the yellow pine? On the charts, it appears to very similar to the fir on the numbers. After treating it with cpes, is actually 20 times worse as the price suggests? Thanks for the input. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-31-2017 at 2:19pm
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Trevor, On the SYP, I'd say go for it but add one more layer on the glass schedule. Also, make sure it's very dry. Use a moisture meter and not just the word of the seller. I suggest getting it below 7% to 8% Yes on the CPES especially on end grain and any cuts/notches. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Nautique Newby
Date Posted: April-18-2017 at 3:26pm
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Not to hijack this thread but this seems to be the most current stringer thread and didn't want to start another one. I've started (admittedly very late) a complete floor/stringer redo of my '82 2001. I'm also going the LVL route for mains and C grade pine for secondaries. We cannot get Douglas Fir here (I'm in the same area as Big Pappa). One question that may affect Trevor. US Composites says they are out of the Epoxy mat and can't get any more of it at this time. They recommend going with 1.5 oz chop strand mat in it's place. Do any of you fiberglassing experts have an opinion on this? I'm a complete rookie at this just stumbling my way through with the help of this forum. My plan was to use SkiBums layup method with the tapes, 10 oz mat and epoxy mat. Would the 1708 take the place of the epoxy mat or is that too stiff for the bends on the stringer (even with eased edges)? Seems like I read someone did use 1708 on the stringers but it required some skill and patience. I have the latter but not the former (yet). Again, did not mean to hijack this thread but thought it might be helpful to OP (and others). Thanks, Allen ------------- I hope I don't screw this up! |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: July-03-2017 at 11:30pm
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Well, I did with this thread exactly what I told myself I wouldn't do. I let it sit idle for 5 months with out an update. So here it is. The boat is done. We've been on the water for a month now. I found the rot on 1/6/17 and took this pic of the first lake test on 6/7/17 http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6245.jpg" rel="nofollow">  More updates to follow....I got way off track and took it well beyond what I intended when I started. |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: July-03-2017 at 11:54pm
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Picture bombardments to follow. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5852.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5864.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5865.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Pics of the tear down Test fitting: made a template that was way off but it was something to copy that wasn't falling apart. Test fitting stringers. PB'ed the new mains in http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5853.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5854.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5897.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: July-04-2017 at 12:07am
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Secondaries removed http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5915.jpg" rel="nofollow">  At this point I think I needed a break or didn't have time for a day of laying glass, got some steel to lengthen the trailer and build a prop guard (guards not built yet) http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG5995.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6001.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Plate went on the outside, the thickness was a little off on the new stuff. I'm very confident my welds have good penetration, just not perfect looking. I'm no pro.. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6003.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Secondaries in and glassing underway http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6005.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Test fitting battery box, decided to scrap the pvc and drop flex tube all the way back http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6016.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: July-04-2017 at 12:08am
Wow! That was fast. Glad you were able to get out on the water this summer.  ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: July-04-2017 at 12:24am
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Removed stripes, they needed work, this was prior to deciding to go all black http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6023.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Floor in, glassing http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6079.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Trailer paint http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6652.png" rel="nofollow">  Project took a turn here, scored this kit on eBay, gps controlled perfect pass wakeboard pro. Nauticlaugic gps, complete kit was $750 http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6111.png" rel="nofollow">  I had a temporary plate covering a stereo hole the previous owner cut in the protruded area in the center of the dash. I had already decided to go with black over the wood grain but upon removal of that plate, I flaked the wood grain and ended up pulling it off entirely. Then decided to remove the protruded area entirely and glass the hole away. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6127.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Dash primed with interlux epoxy prime coat. Guage hole cut for PP. ready for paint. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6141.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6155.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6156.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6161.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6188.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: July-04-2017 at 12:42am
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Test fitting seadek sheet material. I bought it on Black Friday last year, I'm blaming this project on them, because I pulled the carpet and realized what I had http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6166.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Modded the original observers seat http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6187.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Created easier access to the bow storage. Which I opened up for more storage. Cooler fits sitting flat under bow. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6140.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Finishing the interior http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6198.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6193.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6211.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Nautique current font reg numbers http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6192.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Back on the trailer http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6217.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: July-04-2017 at 12:51am
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Took these 3 on 6/6 which was the 6 month mark for finding the rot http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/996IMG6237.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/bc8IMG6239.jpg" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/52IMG6238.jpg" rel="nofollow">  And from the best beach on my local lake (Allatoona) http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6280.png" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6654.png" rel="nofollow">  Gracie approves... she's an awesome spotter http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6653.png" rel="nofollow">  http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6305.jpg" rel="nofollow">  Added the grill today, the base sandwiches to the teak, used aluminum plate underneath, no holes were added in the wood. When not in use only the base will be left on the platform. http://cubeupload.com/im/Tfreeman/IMG6298.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: July-04-2017 at 12:53am
It was back breaking, but my wife and I, are glad it's finished. |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: July-04-2017 at 10:59am
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Great job! Did you re-foam it? The grill is a 1st. Does it pull off the standpipe for travelling? ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: July-04-2017 at 12:17pm
Thanks, I did not foam. I did some perpendicular floor supports that for some reason I didn't take any pics of. The grill comes off, only the base is left mounted. I can't take credit for that idea though I copied someone else's I saw. |
Posted By: MikeEby
Date Posted: July-25-2017 at 12:26pm
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Sorry this is my first post. Pictures are not showing up for me because Photobucket is not allowing 3 party links. Is there a way around this? I'm going to start a stringer job on my 86 and I feel like I'm going about it blind as the old saying goes, "A picture is worth a 1000 words". Thanks! Mike |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: July-25-2017 at 3:03pm
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Mike, your best bet is to just put the pictures you want to use on the desktop of an actual computer. I've never had much luck with my iphone, although, oddly enough, I can sometimes post pics here from my ipad. Then, I find it easier to put a number in the name of all the pics, numbering them in the sequence I want them to go up. This isn't at all necessary, I just find it easier if I'm posting more than a couple at a time. Anyway, next step, click the Post Reply button. Don't use the quick reply box, but the actual Post Reply. It's kind of hidden, well not hidden, it just doesn't stand out. It will take you to a new page. From there, you'll see a little icon of a tree with an up arrow. Click on that, then browse to select your pics on your desktop. A new box will pop up, just hit ok or whatever. From there, your post reply box will just have some links with the names of your photos (as they appear on the site). Just add whatever commentary you want, and then post. I find it helpful, if I have a big post, to copy everything in the post box to my clipboard, just in case something happens, I don't have to write it/do it all over. I guess that's long winded, but once you do it once it will be really easy. |
Posted By: MikeEby
Date Posted: July-25-2017 at 3:54pm
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Thanks for the quick reply. The issue is I can't see images that someone else posted.. There are several on this thread about 5 posts up, that are from Photobucket. I can't see them, There is just an image that says "Please update your account to enable 3rd party hosting". from Photobucket. Are you saying you can see those images? Sorry to clutter up this thread with a technical question, I didn't see where else to post it. Mike |
Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: July-25-2017 at 4:53pm
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I can't see those images either. I believe that's on the original post-er to fix, if they care to. There's definitely plenty of other good re-string threads on this site though.... Well, I thought there were. It looks like photo bucket must have changed their policy recently. That seems to have hurt a lot of the good re-string threads, that I was familiar with anyway. Here is a mostly text based discussion. I'm sure others will chime in with more: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26068&PN=1&title=stringer-floor-replacement-lessons-learned" rel="nofollow - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26068&PN=1&title=stringer-floor-replacement-lessons-learned |
Posted By: MikeEby
Date Posted: July-25-2017 at 5:29pm
Thanks! I was afraid that was the case. From what's I've seen Photobucket wants the ridiculous price of $399/year for 3rd party hosting. So it's probably not going to happen, So much information lost its really a shame. Mike |
Posted By: stepper459
Date Posted: July-26-2017 at 11:22am
Not to thread-jack, but yeah, this is extremely unfortunate. I've recently switched to imgur and found it's way easier to use anyway. But that doesn't help going back, and all these images people could have referred to are now basically gone. |
Posted By: Nautique Newby
Date Posted: July-26-2017 at 12:42pm
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Mike, You're correct. A whole lot of valuable info is likely gone since most of the stringer threads are from years ago. I'm in the middle of a stringer job on my '82 2001 and I've fixed my posts to eliminate the photo links so it will give you some idea of what to expect. Certainly not anywhere near what was lost though. I don't mean to hijack this thread but here's the link to the thread I started for your reference. http://http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40923&title=glass-layup-schedule-on-82-2001" rel="nofollow - http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40923&title=glass-layup-schedule-on-82-2001 I'm really impressed that Tfreeman completed his in 6 months. It's amazing how much time these stringer replacements eat up. I think I'm right at 300 hrs so far. Hopefully the OP will fix this thread too since it's a newer one. ------------- I hope I don't screw this up! |
Posted By: rolleronariver
Date Posted: July-26-2017 at 4:46pm
I think each year is a little different. For instance, I finished my 92 sport in about 3 months but all I had was the two main stringer and the two secondary stringers in my boat and they were straight so it was toooooo bad. I don't care to do it again anytime soon though. I probably had around 300 hours or so in it. ------------- 92 Sport nautique |
Posted By: MikeEby
Date Posted: July-26-2017 at 11:43pm
Thanks for fixing the links in your thread...Photobucket's change in policy has caused quite a mess in the technical forum world. I'm a member of several and lots of folks are pretty upset about it. Another great thread that uses most of it's images from a different source other then Photobucket that still works is Big Pappa's thread called http://correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9503&KW=&title=85-2001-lvl-stringer-project" rel="nofollow - 85 2001 LVL Stringer Project. I thought about starting a new tread with links to these other threads with pictures that still work, or maybe add it to BigPapp's sticky thread about lessons learned. Mike |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: September-26-2017 at 1:01am
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I noticed the problem on another thread and I plan to add the pics in to the best I can over time. I'd hope to find a hosting site that is reasonably easy to use from my phone. It only took me 6 months but I'm a fireman, I spend a day on duty then I have 2 days off, it allowed me to put some time in. I pretty much spent all free weekdays with the exception of a handful on the project. |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: September-27-2017 at 10:31am
| Photos fixed after working all morning on it. |
Posted By: fgroce
Date Posted: September-27-2017 at 1:17pm
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Boat looks great, but isn't it hot during the summers in Ga.? I have a 86 Mustang 86 that is black and when the ac is down, the car is down. Enjoy the boat summer is fading fast. ------------- FGroce 88 Ski Nautique For 28 years Now 2002 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Tfreeman
Date Posted: September-27-2017 at 5:04pm
Thanks, yes it's hot in GA. The weather, the boat, the lake water, white boats, black boats, red boats. Everything. That being said the black isn't that much worse, if any, then I remember it being last season. My summer is more than likely over, we have a newborn. |
Posted By: fgroce
Date Posted: September-28-2017 at 9:36pm
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Congratulations on the little person. Enjoy them while you can they grow up fast, and will be gone before you know it. ------------- FGroce 88 Ski Nautique For 28 years Now 2002 Ski Nautique |