Looking at a 1966 Barracuda
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Topic: Looking at a 1966 Barracuda
Posted By: Fergus9761
Subject: Looking at a 1966 Barracuda
Date Posted: November-12-2017 at 10:46pm
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Hello Everyone. I am not an owner (yet) but have been looking at the Barracuda and have fallen for it. Something about that boat. Anyway, I had a look at a '66 Cuda that has been restored. The fellow who has it is a dealer and specializes in wooden boats. He appears to have bought this off someone else and while he has documentation in the form of pictures and manuals, he does not seem to know who did the work. The boat won an award at the Lake Dora Boat Show in Florida and he has the plaque. Not sure how the boat made its way to my corner of New England, and the owner was not particularly forthcoming. The pictures document a complete tear down to the shell - stringers replaced and reglassed. New decks and bulkheads. The Chrysler 318 was rebuilt (appears to be a Plymouth Gran Fury engine). She looks beautiful. I need to be careful here - the dealer has been in business since 1978 and I do not want to say anything negative about him. I have some local sources to consult there. I have an uneasy feeling about the pricing - he wants $19k for the boat. I have looked around the web and on this forum and so far that is the most expensive Cuda I have seen. He told me that he started out asking $28k for it, and that this is a bargain price. I have looked at other boats for much less, but they are not in the condition that this boat appears to be in. I am looking for a reality check. If the boat is a show winner and in Bristol condition, does the asking price seem out of line? This is a boat I want to use - not show. I am going to continue to poke around (boating season is pretty much done here) but any insight from the more experienced people would be much appreciated. |
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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: November-12-2017 at 10:57pm
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Is it https://boats-from-usa.com/correct-craft/correct-craft-barracuda-83093" rel="nofollow - this one ? That boat seems to make the rounds. Sounds a lot like the $28,0000 Promo that was just discussed. What is it worth? Like is said a lot around here, it is worth what someone will pay for it. Way to often, people think they can buy a boat for $4,000 and put $12,000 into and they have a $16,000 boat, or because it is so special, a $20,000 boat. Thing is, take a 2001 for example, no matter what you do to a 2001, it is going to never exceed $10,000. That Barracuda may be a stunning example, but it is not worth $19,000. Also, are you looking for a boat to show, or are you looking for a boat to enjoy? You can get a heck of a restored barracuda or a lot of other restored 60s vintage boats for a whole lot less. Bruce Hart's (Riley's) boats come to mind, I have no idea what kind of value he would put on some of his restorations, but they are beautiful. I am guessing that Bruce, like most others, isnt restoring his boats to flip them and make a buck. It doesnt work like that. When you put that much time effort and cash into one, its to end up with a nice boat, not to end up making money by selling it. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 12:59am
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If you have to have an inboard take the 20K you'll have invested and buy yourself the nicest and newest Nautique you can find,you will be way more happy with the ride and workmanship. It's asking price is crazy for a boat that is not 100% correct. As Pete is fond of saying that boat is not restored. I believe that it's painted rather than gelcoated and there is bottom paint on it. There is a reason it's still available. Good luck on your search don't give up. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Fergus9761
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 7:18am
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Guys - thanks very much for your insight. It confirms my suspicions about the boat. It is a pretty thing but you are right, it is painted, not gelcoated and there is bottom paint on it. It is currently shrink wrapped and stored outside and that breaks my heart - winters are a little harsh up here sometimes. Also true that I have no intention of showing - I just want to use it. I might ski from time to time but even that is not the primary use. So, another Newbie question: I have seen in this and other comments that bottom paint is not favored - why is that? Growing up in Mass most of my formative boating years were spent on salt water, and we always used bottom paint. The boat was actively fished and spent all summer in the water (not just sitting in the slip as some will do). We would paint it every couple of years and I will likely die young from that. - haz mat suit notwithstanding. But for some fishing on my brother's Shamrock, I do not plan to use the boat in salt water. We own a place up on one of the lakes in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont, and that is where I would keep and use the boat. Thanks again for your insight and expertise. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 7:48am
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Michael, Gary is correct that if I had seen this thread earlier I would have commented earlier that the boat is not restored but now I will! I highly suspect that the reason for the paint and the bottom paint is the hull suffered from gel blistering and spider cracking so paint was the cheap option to cover it up. Whether or not the paint was done correctly or not only time will tell. If not, the cracking will telegraph through the paint. Yes, the boat is pretty but take a pass on it. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 9:21am
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If we didn't already have one, I'd have already been out to Ohio to look at this one. If it's as nice as the photos and description make it look, it the nicest one I have seen for sale. That boat in NH was for sale in GA for a long time, then it ended up in NH for sale again. It may have won 1st place at the Sunnyland show, but that just demonstrates how little those people in that organization know about Correct Crafts. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=9625" rel="nofollow - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forsale/details.asp?ID=9625 |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 9:38am
Bruce, I'd like to inform you that the 1st place was in a non judged class of fiberglass and it was a "peoples choice". I mention this to demonstrate to you how little you know about the ACBS.  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Riley wrote:Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 9:43am
Ok, they are big fans of Correct Craft, kind of like Correct Craft people are big fans of Malibus. 
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Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 10:06am
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OK - While I have Bruce, Pete and Gary on the line..............Threadjack: Started sanding the Al Tyll, working on Gel coat. The bottom stripe is TAPE! What? I know, RIGHT? Have you guys seen this before in 60's classic/barracuda hulls? It came off with a wheel and no evidence of painted strip underneath. Mind-blowing. https://i.imgur.com/hO5Ku7n.jpg%20" rel="nofollow">  ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Fergus9761
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 10:11am
| Thanks again guys. I will keep looking. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 10:18am
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Steve, Yes, the tape for the boot stripe is factory original. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 10:19am
We are fans of all boats! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 10:19am
| Steve, all the Cudas I have seen have had tape, (although the oldest I've seen is only a 1966). Our Mustang is a 1966 and has paint. Probably 65/66 was in transition where they went to all tape for the next few years? I'd stick with tape. Take some measurements. It can be difficult to get on straight, especially that little piece in the front. |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 10:28am
Not just on the cudas/classics either - ive seen reidp change out his boot stripes twice in one weekend... You can buy the vinyl tape relatively easily ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 10:36am
| No one can stripe a boat as straight and fast as Reid. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 10:36am
Steve, Position the boat on the concrete with the jack stand so the boot strip is an equal distance from the floor fore and aft. Get a thin piece of wood and put a nail in it the distance from the floor to the boot stripe. Then as you put the new tape on, use the stick at intervals to get the tape at the proper spot on the hull. Here's a fancy purchased height measuring stick:  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 11:01am
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Steve I'll let you in on a little secret,but don't tell Cousin Donald. Don't bother sanding or polishing or even that mop and glow they used on those Cypress Gardens boats. Flex Seal is your answer,it even comes in red,just the thing for those pesky gel cracks. Why I even hear you can cut your boat in half and use Flex Tape to put it back together ! If you do it right it will look just like bottom paint  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 11:37am
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=flex+seal+liquid&qpvt=flex+seal+liquid&view=detail&mid=B09108D61DB15FD2572CB09108D61DB15FD2572C&FORM=VRDGAR" rel="nofollow - Fantastic idea! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 12:06pm
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Thanks, fellers......... the gel on this is REALLY good, but tired. Nice Solid boat (so far)..... I should start a new thread........... ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Air206
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 12:12pm
BTW Michael, when done with this Al Tyll, it will be as pretty as that Baracuda (hopefully) without all that paint. You can pay now and I'll give you the $ 27,500.00 deal.  ------------- https://tinyurl.com/y6t5e3bu" rel="nofollow - 04 Air206 http://tinyurl.com/9urzgls" rel="nofollow - 91 Barefoot 78 SkiTiq |
Posted By: Donald80SN
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 1:03pm
Gary, We use Janitor in a Drum on my boats. Donald ------------- 1980 Ski Nautique SOLD Back to Cypress Gardens 2002 Sport Nautique, GT-40, FCT2, Cover Sports, Tower Bimini, Inc., Wet Sounds Audio System, Star Gazer Wake Edition S. 1968 Ski Nautique, Project. |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 4:00pm
Tact: Minus 8 points. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 4:53pm
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Larry, think you misunderstood. Pete is referencing the "American Crotchety Blowhard Society". ------------- '63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 4:56pm
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Yes, I stand corrected, I thought it was the Association of Cranky Boat Snobs. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 5:33pm
 Glad to be a ACBS member since 1981! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: NCH20SKIER
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 5:38pm
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boom ------------- '05 206 Limited '88 BFN |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 6:10pm
If it was up to Pete, I am sure he wouldnt make such a snarky remark, but I think it is in the ACBS by-laws that he has to. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 7:19pm
| It is an undisputable fact that CCF events are comprised of way nicer people and are much more fun. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 7:59pm
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I think they are still in a daze from when we invaded their party at Sunnyland. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: swilliams
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 9:02pm
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Michael, check the Toledo, Ohio CL. 1965 Cuda. It has some incorrect pieces but could have good bones. ------------- 1976 Martinique,350 Omc. 1975 Glastron/Carlson CV16,115 Merc. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-13-2017 at 9:10pm
https://toledo.craigslist.org/search/boo?query=correct+craft" rel="nofollow - Three cuda's come up listed in the Toledo CL ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: stepper459
Date Posted: November-14-2017 at 12:22pm
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If you're local to the area, then you are probably familiar with the place that's selling that boat... I worked in the industry locally from 2005-2013 and still live locally. I'll share my opinion if you like, but it seems like others here have steered you away from that particular boat anyway, which I agree with. You can do a lot better for the money. You can do better for HALF the money, in my opinion. A friend had a '66 Barracuda that was in good shape, not amazing but functional; he sold it a few years back for $4k. I did love driving that boat, as long as it wasn't too choppy haha. It sounded amazing and was a real head-turner, but without the whole world of being a wooden boat. I loved it. Good luck in your search. |
Posted By: stepper459
Date Posted: November-14-2017 at 12:39pm
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Here's a nice looking Barracuda right here in NH... https://vermont.craigslist.org/boa/d/1970-correct-craft-barracuda/6295040495.html" rel="nofollow - Link to Craigslist |
Posted By: Moody Blue
Date Posted: November-14-2017 at 1:40pm
| Possible painted hull? I see faded blue between the stripes in the 10th pic. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-14-2017 at 2:18pm
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Yes. http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7555 |
Posted By: stepper459
Date Posted: November-15-2017 at 1:01pm
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Wow, good eyes. Same bow numbers, 100% the same boat. Nothing escapes you guys! (That's good!) |