transmission repair
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Printed Date: November-23-2024 at 8:52pm
Topic: transmission repair
Posted By: eric lavine
Subject: transmission repair
Date Posted: August-13-2006 at 11:26am
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were happy to answer any transmission questions at fantasticfinishmarine.com 877-369-6693 we are the countries largest overhauler of competition ski boat transmissions, and pass on the savings to the boat owner,including any tips on removal and replacement. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
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Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-13-2006 at 12:03pm
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MAYBE IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU CONTACTED KEITH AND PAID TO HAVE AN AD ON THIS SITE.
intead of trying to drum up business on every post you make d*ck head. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: August-13-2006 at 9:16pm
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Did my own, thanks. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 9:19am
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hey bc, I also own a 96 sport, and i spend half my days on the phone happily giving free advice on transmissions because this is my business, i usually end up saving guys like you thousands of dollars with this advice, you want about 500 references? I really do not need to DRUM up business, I will remember you when your trans takes a crap, do you want advice from the heart surgeon that did 500 transplants or advice from the one who did 2 or 3 ill leave you with that a-- whipe ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 9:37am
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bc, oh yeah if Kieth does let me advertise the advice will still be free, you know how many times guys like you that got hosed by just having a bad $80.00 damper plate? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 9:40am
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your talking to the wrong person I do everything myself except for the tranny and that I had my friend do and it cost me very little cash so go f**k your self
I've been in a garage since I was 5, my dad has forgot more than you have ever known about engines and transmissions and I know several Proffessional Drag racing and circle track mechanics if I need any answers ass wipe. If you don't need the work why did you post your website and phone number on every post???? don't see the guys from the CC regional shops doing bullsh*t like that they have a little more tact I guess. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 10:02am
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You are obviously new to the internet.
We've seen jokers peddle their junk here and elsewhere, they always loose and look like knobs to they're potential customers like you do now, by assuming we're retards and not showing self discipline in dialog. If your were smart you wouldn't push it. Its not a matter of knowing your stuff, its about knowing your place. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 10:23am
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Anyone with an ounce of wrenching skills could overhaul a BW DD marine tranny. Hardly rocket science.
Over on the BMW forum I visit, there is a ZF transmission rebuild specialist that freely answers transmission related questions and NEVER posts his company name, phone number or tries to drum up business. He simply responds to questions and leaves it at that. Conseqeuntly, there is no one the group trusts more than that guy. Many of the forum members use his service when the time is needed as the computer controlled ZF transmission does require rocket scientist skills to rebuild. So, my advice to Eric (FWIW) is to simply co-exist on this forum and answer tranny questions without trying to pedal your business. Over time you can develope trust and poeple might be more willingly send business your way when they feel overwhelmed to attempt the fix themselves. Just my $.02. ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 10:34am
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let me give you some back ground, 10 years with Paragon gear, 10 years with Twin disc,14 transmission schools (certified) traveled the world doing warranty work on zf and twin disc.6 years in business strictly repairing marine transmissions. about 98% of boat owners do not have a clue about transmissions and they call me, there is nothing worse than a do it yourselfer who thinks they can because they took left turns an some backwoods circle track ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 77stang
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 10:50am
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my d*ck is bigger than your d*ck
------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1360&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - '77 Mustang 17 |
Posted By: tommer12
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 2:18pm
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Holy cow guys... ease up on the language here... it's just a boat, it's just a forum, it's people giving their opinions on questions asked. If Eric said Keith said it was ok, leave it at that. and 79nauituqe, although your advice is always great, I think you are a little rough with the new guys who don't know you. (not saying that i know you, but your smarta33 comments are not always apperciated by all who post here)
happy tranny rebuilding |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 3:43pm
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maybe i am guilty of advertising, I know it doesnt take a rocket scientist to rebuild a borg, but nowadays there are many different transmissions in these boats and I strive to learn them all including 630a', 450:s, walter's, pcm 40, pcm40a. my understanding of these transmission and many sources for parts brings the cost of our repairs to a minimum. for instance a customer brought his boat here on friday morning in which he had a tournament on saturday, I had the trans out rebuilt, tested, and aligned by 3:00 that afternoon, this is very common total bill: $890.00 he could not thank me enough. I just feel that I am offering a valuble resource to boat owners who may not be mechanically inclined to rebuild thier own trans. this is all i have done since 1982.boater's are suseptible to price gouging and I was just offering a different alternative than to your local dealer in which the trans would probably wind up here anyways. summers are short and i understand this and if it takes me 2 hours to walk somebody thru rebuilding thier trans on the phone i do it or ill give them my home number to call me at home ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 4:03pm
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Your missing the point there Eric, we don't care how many school's you've been too, Most don't care about your business, most don't want to hear about your business and how much you can save us, I know I can get a rebuilt BW modified to handle more power for less than 800 bucks, so I don't see the savings, I personally spent less than 400 to completely rebuild mine. most all here do all of their own work, many have rebuilt multiple BW velvet drives, 90% of the pople here have BW VD in thier boats which are pretty simple and 50% of us know when it's dampner plate or a clutch plate causing the problem or a cracked cooler causing the problem.
SO GIVE ALL OF THE FREE ADVICE YOU CAN JUST DON'T PEDDLE YOUR BUSINESS IN THE PROCESS, PAY KEITH TO PEDDLE YOUR SHOP LIKE OVERTON'S, DELTA PROPELLER AND BART'S DO OR DIDN'T YOU NOTICE THEIR LINKS ON THE SIDE AND HEADER????  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 5:01pm
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your missing the point, why are you on this site? what advice do you have to offer? maybe I'll give people your toll free number,so you can pass along all your wisdom on the not used anymore borg warner, maybe you could walk them thru a 630v rebuild. people go to this site seeking information because they are having a problem. I do about 200 ski boat transmissions a year compared to your 1, I believe at least 200 people would rather listen to me than you ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 6:36pm
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HEY d*ck HEAD ERIC, I personally offer a lot of advice far beyond a transmissions. Do a search of "79nautique" and find out d*ck head what I have done on this site for the last four years a**hole.
SECONDLY ERIC THE ASS WIPE, Look in the diaries section and figure out what model transmissions we use in our boats there are two that cover 100% of everyone that post on this site. 75% use a Borg Warner 1:1 velvet drive, 25% have the PCM powerplus 1.23:1 transmission in their boat. So who gives a sh*t about all of the other transmissions out that you can fix that we don't use on are restoration projects. THIRDLY RICHARD CRANIUM YOU STILL MISSED THE f**kING POINT YOUR KNOWLEDGED WAS WELCOMED THE SALES BULLsh*t WASN'T. this site was started by keith to gain knowledge on how to restore and repair CORRECT CRAFT BOATS OF ANY MODEL AND YEAR. The majority of us that post here on a regular bases for the past several years, not days like some a**hole i'm respomding to, have older restored 60's, 70's and 80's boats which some members have four or more CC's and exchange knowledge on where to get orginal parts, adjusting various items on the boat and how to repair fiberglass and redo the painted graphics so that we can have the best running, best looking restored boat we can have. You can conitue to be an ass I don't care but you have pretty much f**ked yourself druming up business form this site and who gives a f**k about a 630v tranny that no one has in there boat that is on this site. BOTTOM LINE SLANDER ASIDE KNOWLEDGE AND HELP IS ALWAYS WELCOMED SALES PITCH'S AND ADVERTISING ISN'T APPRORIATE OR WANTED. sorry boys for all the nasty words but this ass has really gotten under my skin a little and it makes me miss tim and daves jabs, did I really say that maybe they won't read this post ssssshhhhh!!!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 7:06pm
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you act like this site is looked at by you and 10 other guys restoring CC's and it pisses you off that somebody with way more knowledge is knocking on your door well guess what, knock knock, and by the way if i need advice on where to put the gas in i'll e-mail you ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 8:13pm
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maybe you should re-read the other post on this thread and maybe you should review the re-union pictures and post and notice that there are way more then 10 people that post here and maybe you haven't meet or spent time with the thirty odd people from this site that I have whisle d*ck.
You just don't get it I'll try one more time We don't care about the advertising of your business we welcome the advice you could offer put you choose not too otherwise you would have contributed to the the other thread where someone has asked about an intermittent problem regarding the neutral safty switch and adusting the cable going to the transmission. Obviusly you are extremely busy at your job that you don't have time to mess with this site or maybe it just the opposite your so slow that you have tons of time to d*ck around here and can fix anyone's tranny as soon as the walk up becuse your sooo f**king busy at your tranny shop. Hell Thomas even responded to your question and told you the model tranny he has but have you offer any advice sure as hell doesn't look like you've been too busy I guess to offer free advice then again maybe he isn't close enough to your shop for you to repair it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 10:27pm
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Wow, I love it when you talk like that 79. I thought you'd been awful calm lately. Been in the sun to much over there in St. Pete?
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: August-14-2006 at 11:50pm
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Holywood signed:
"todicus wrote: 79 is right-minus the slander." Perhaps in this case, the slander is justified. Eric, your advice has been welcomed here by 79 and the rest of us. However, you're really wrong if you think your credentials are going to make us ask you before some of the trusted guys on this forum. Join us for a while and you'll see...then you'll get it. I'm one who couldn't rebuild my tranny (btw, I've had bw and pcm like 79 said)on my own, but this is the first place I'd come and I'd look for advice from the likes of David F and 79 at the very top of my list. 79, "Richard Cranium?" Ha! I think that's some of the most structured and well-spelled composition from you in a while. Like jbear said, we were waiting for both barrels to blaze again. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 95 Sport |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-15-2006 at 8:04am
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you just wont quit will you 79,thats why i gave my toll free number so he could call with the problem, im paying for the call and not asking for anything in return, my point is if for some reason he cant fix it and it winds up at the cc dealer he'll be walking out with a new trans from there salesmanship,it happens everyday, im not saying im an expert but it is at least worth a call for a second opinion ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-15-2006 at 9:35am
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well most would rather post a question here and have it answered here and not have to pick-up the phone to call someone. That way if they forget or cann't get to it right then they can review what was said when they have the time to get to it. The majority of the members are do it your selfer's and like this site because of the reference information and the ability to retrieve that information time after time, and a year later if needed. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: August-15-2006 at 10:21am
Ok, the "richard cranium" thing was hilarious Maybe I just do not get it. Eric, where is your shop? If it is not within 25 miles of my home, it make no sense for me to try to get it to you even if I could not fix it myself. The shipping costs would be more than I would want to pay, so I would have it fixed locally. So, the only real benefit you can offer on this site is to give free advice, which is what 79 and I think you should do. And leave it at that. But, if someone has a tranny issue and you post something like: "send it to me and I will fix it" then forget it, you will get slammed.
Hey 79, jab, jab, jab, jab....  ------------- |
Posted By: pswann
Date Posted: August-15-2006 at 10:21pm
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Wow what a harsh thread!!
Im looking to buy a spare off ebay and I dont want to mess with rebuilding it due to space and the learning curve since I dont need it right now. So what I want to do is instead of paying to have it shipped to me having it shipped to someone who will go through it and make it 100 percent without draining my pocketbook so when I am ready to use it it will work and last like a new one. Any thoughts on who could get this done? It seems like hijacking this thread will be a positive thing. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: August-15-2006 at 10:57pm
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Well let's see
Why don't you call Eric and talk to him? That would maybe be a positive thing. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 10:00am
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I buy many trannies off ebay, the trannies are in somebodies garage for a reason, we buy them for the core value, the planetary is valuble, but still we have trans shipped here daily by fed ex, usual turn around 2 days, average cost 650.00, shipping, usually 30 each way. pcm powerslots 650.00 to 850.00 depending if drum is cracked. im giving you guys price comparisons, and the reason is I recieve calls daily and a guy will tell me they were qouted anywhere from 1200 to 1800. one customer did not use his boat for 2 months, the mastercrap (no pun) dealer wanted 5200.00 he drove here from upper mich. to my shop. r n r trans, rebuilt 5 days 1600.00. very happy clam.... by the way it was a 630v. I do need to make a living, and i do what i do because i love to boat. I know the season is short and I know there is someboby out there reading this that i have got back in the water way quicker than anywhere else ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 10:13am
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Eric, Im not doubting your skills as as a rebuilder- but your approach on this site has been all wrong. There are many here who would appreciate some free advice, especially from someone as intimate with transmissions as you are. However, until you start treating us like fellow enthusiasts rather than potential customers, perhaps it would be best to send some advertising dollars in Keith's direction. ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 10:25am
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WOW it's amazing that he only responds if someone wants to buy or re-build still wants to pimp his shop.
What about all of the free advice?????? what about all of the other post regarding transmissions too busy to read them or no chance of a sale so why bother, Dude your just a d*ck weed ass hole lier, free advice guess you have to call and want to send money your way deushbag ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 11:13am
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my approach is advice to save you guys money,I am in the trans business not the gouging business, no matter what happens here i will survive, and you better seek some anger management cause you are way out of hand and have a hard time understanding why i am on this site, anyone looking at this please dont send your transmission to my shop are work sucks and we are very expensive and all i want is your money, please send it to your local cc dealer thay will be glad to treat you well. but if you need any technical advice on a transmission call me at home 330-995-4037 call collect ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 11:45am
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Glad you still miss the point everyone has said.
Free advice is welcomed.......you even said that you offer it freely. There are four or five other threads regarding transmission questions and you have not offered any input. No one as questioned your abilities or knowledge of transmissions only your approach and it coming across as a sales pitch to us. It would be nice if you responded to the other questions but for what ever reason you don't. There are two other forum headers that questions get asked you seem to focus on this one thread and ignore the other questions under this heading one which was posted minutes before you responded to my comments. So let me see if I have this right....your approach is advice to save us guys money and your in the transmission business not gouging business...... HHMMMMMM
It would be nice if you acted more as a memeber then a sales person and contributed with your free advice and knwoledge instead of telling us how much you can save us money if you do the work. What about gotaski's question about adding an extrenal tranny filter, what about the 71c tranny that they asked you about what about all of the other transmission questions that other members have asked we've been waiting to hear from your wealth of knowledge and skill. If you act like a member and participate in the descussions then we would lighten up on you but All I see is you know everything about transmissions and we're all a bunch of dumb ass and don't know sh*t. So if and when you want to give your free advice here some might just send you some work to show case your skills and be refered to as a go to guy. But untill you do know one is going to be on your side and eventually we will get all over Keith and request your login in be removed and IP address blocked. We really would like your insight and knowledge honestly.. we would, I mean that very sincearly and have been waiting for it. But .... I'm pretty sure I've cover that part already.... So please lets all start over and move forward with the great wealth of knowledge that you can provide us and that we are eagerly awaiting to absorb and use and eventually you'll have are respect and business some may just want to buy quality parts from you others will ship the transmissions to you but your going to have to act like a CORRECT CRAFT FAN and not a salesman ok. please let this all be water under the bridge and respond to the other questions posted where you could really help these guys out. Thanks in advance for responding to the other members questions. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Darrel
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 2:29pm
| 79 extends the olive branch, priceless. I have new respect for the man. Hollywood may have to change his signiture line. |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 7:10pm
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I agree with Darrel, except for the Hollywood signaturepart. Also, I hope in the post above where 79 used all the colorful words in a row wasn't adressed to The Dude. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 95 Sport |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 7:18pm
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notice I never say THE dude just dude as in spacolli, fast times at ridgemont high.
Eric thanks again for responding on the other post... we do appreciate it and hope you continue to offer you insite and vast wealth on knowledge. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 8:21pm
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By the way guys, I'm not from Albania, I am from Aurora, Ohio, must of hit the wrong key. I'm more than happy to offer some insight and also sbsorb some insight from you guys
Eric ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: August-16-2006 at 8:26pm
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Hi Eric Glad you straightened out that Albania thing. I don't think I'd want to deal with an Albanian outfit. Seems like shipping costs would be kinda high Hell, I don't even know where Albania is! I'd rather deal with a shop in Medina, Ohio.
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-18-2006 at 4:03pm
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can't say i dont blame you about the albania thing, I have a couple buddies from Estonia, (same region) thier tool box contains: bailing wire, duct tape, bubble gum (just in case the duct tape wont stick) and 45 different hammers..... ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Jim_In_Houston
Date Posted: August-31-2006 at 12:36am
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Eric, I have a rebuild in the future for my trans so I went yo your web site. I could find no prices for parts and no "howto" sections. Not much there for the "do-it-yourselfer".
I think I see why you are reluctant to buy an ad that leads to your site - it won't lead to any sales. I think your market is different then the one you will find on this site. Hang around though, I am going to need some advice. (Thank goodness it's free or I wouldn't buy any.) ------------- Happy owner of a '66 and a '68 Mustang |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-31-2006 at 8:52am
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i really don't understand what you are trying to say, especially the part about my market. please explain ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Jim_In_Houston
Date Posted: August-31-2006 at 9:13am
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Eric. My point-of-view is that folks on this site will do one of two things when they have a trans problem: they will either pull the trans themselves or they will tow the boat to their most trusted mechanic.
If they are capable of pulling the trans themselves and they are willing to re-align their own engine when re-installing, they will probably take joy in rebuiding their own trans - for better or worse. (I fall into that group.) If they tow their boat to a mechanic, it would be foolish to tell the mechanic where to send the trans for rebuilding because if you did you would relieve the mechanic of warranty issues. So, I think everyone here is correct in that most folks here, including me, will enjoy your contributions to the site but if you give the appearance you are here to try to sell you will turn everyone off. I don't presume to know your business better than you do but I suspect your market is the marine maintenace industry. Folks from the marine maintenace industry do post on this site (Woody for exanmple) but they make no obvious attempts to garner business - that attitude is very much appreciated and the folks here respond well to it. Now me, I like to have a good source for howto tips and a reliable source for parts. (And I usually try to buy my parts from someone I feel is technically savy and knows the product.) I appreciate that you may be able to "save people money" but no one belives that and besides, we have already blown loads on the boats to begin with and now we're paying $40.00 to $60.00 just to fill the tanks (and I can burn 3 tanks in one day). If people here were really interested in saving money they'd sell their boats. Actually, I think 79 was trying to help you by hitting your head with a 2x4. Keep any eye on him though, if you reach out for that olive branch he might chop your arm off with the axe he is holding in his other hand. 
(Added note to Eric: If you just stop trying to sell you may start selling. But I doubt it.) Oh yeh, I have found your discussion on various materials for clutch plates and various thickness of lock rings and shims very interesting and enlightening. Could you elaborate? What are our choices when it comes to clutch plate materials. Where does one buy clutch parts for "heavy duty" applications? ------------- Happy owner of a '66 and a '68 Mustang |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-31-2006 at 9:59am
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i went to my bio, and have 71 posts and in the 71 posts i couldnt find one post to where i am trying to sell anything. if i did sell parts they would be half of what you are paying for them.You stated that you dont care about saving money on parts, please call me next time you need a part i will be more than happy to sell you parts.I built my business on integrity, i sat on the phone this morning for 25 minutes with a correctcraftfan in which his friend rebuilt his trans and he had no nuetral, i did not sell him anything actually it cost me money (no production) I am guilty of one thing,, giving away trade secrets so you guys are not pulling your trannies 3 times to get it right. I do not believe that there is only do it yourselfers on this site, I myself came to this site in search of a problem i was having and another member from this site called me and helped me figure the problem out. If you dont want me on your team i will understand. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-31-2006 at 10:38am
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we did go over weeks ago clutch plate material. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Jim_In_Houston
Date Posted: August-31-2006 at 11:28am
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Well, most folks see a posting of your web site address as an attempt to sell. Is your attitude always this cocky or are you just having a bad day? I am always amused by people that keep telling me how good they are.
By the way, you have no idea what I am paying for parts and I view your statement that "if you did sell parts it would be half of what I am paying" as an ignorant personal attack on my knowledge, ability, and intelligence. Do you find friends and new acquaintances hard to come by? It would be smart of you to let this thread die. ------------- Happy owner of a '66 and a '68 Mustang |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-31-2006 at 1:07pm
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look at it as a website for a source of information. it is an avenue or a option if you are having a problem rebuilding your transmission or someone else is rebuilding it and when you put it in it doesnt work.
i never once said how good i was but i did state facts on my abilities regarding transmissions and as for pricing on parts dont even go there. I do alot of business with cc dealers and ccf paying advertisers and feel it would be in conflict. i never once mentioned trans rebuild pricing. and if i did sell trans parts i could save you half. well maybe not you ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: jimbo
Date Posted: September-01-2006 at 12:34am
| Eric, I've enjoyed your input and appreciate the info you've offered. And you've taken our razzing pretty well. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-01-2006 at 9:01am
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priceless jimbo ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: oldskiboat
Date Posted: September-01-2006 at 3:45pm
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Guys, if someone wants to give me good advice on how to do something and it is free, I don't care if they put a flashing sign on their post. What is the big deal here? Is this a good ol boys club or a CC boat forum? I like my boat and if you can help me make it go better great.
I'd like all of you to keep up the good work and damm, get along! ------------- Gary The Villages Fl. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1392&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975" rel="nofollow - 75Southwind 20 |
Posted By: jimbo
Date Posted: September-01-2006 at 4:12pm
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eric, I say put your website link back on your signature line. I don't think it makes much business sense to buy advertising space here. I agree that most of us would rather do the work ourselves and the rest have someone they work with. But keep contributing!
There are people that come to this site that are incapable of diving into a tranny rebuild and don't have a mechanic. And they might live in OH. But even bigger than that... Most people in business know the best advertising is from refferals! If the guy across the lake thinks he needs a new transmission and he's not the type to pick up a book and learn and not the sort of guy I'd want to spend two weeks with doing it for him... ...or the guy from OH on the fishing fourm I visit whose 27 footer just lost reverse and is whinning about not being able to fish his tournament in three days...I'd refer them to eric... |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-01-2006 at 5:25pm
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Eric seems like a good guy to me. Heck, even 79 has warmed up to him. Just don't see what all the commotion is about. It's a boating site. Suppose to be fun. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-01-2006 at 10:33pm
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Jimbo, you are 110% correct. there alot of guys that come to this site that could'nt even tell you where thier transmission was, believe me, I recieve 1 or 2 calls a day from this site with basic questions, to me and you it may be a dumb question,but to the guy asking it, it really is a legitimate question and he really doesnt know. BUT i also realize that there our guys on this site that do thier own repairs and most of them are the ones that were giving me a hard time and probably felt insulted and with time they started to realize where i was coming from, maybe i came accross with some arrogance. 75% of my business is refferal and alot of it comes from the people who ask the dumb but legitimate questions. and most of the time they are the ones that are taken advantage of monatarily by thier local repair shop it happens everyday to the average NON do it yourself boater. I believe this site was set up for enthusiasts and for people seeking information and if you notice it is a lot of newbies asking questions and seniors replying.
I truly approached this site to offer information and if i sell a tranny i sell a tranny, if i dont i dont. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: scott8370
Date Posted: September-03-2006 at 3:12am
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Wow!!!!!!! I hardly ever read or post to this section. Eric seems like an ok guy. I think he got the message.I never met 79 in person, but I know he's a good guy.And if I had an engine problem..he could and would help me.I bet Eric would too. But time will tell. ------------- Scott |
Posted By: 87sn2001
Date Posted: September-06-2006 at 11:11pm
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Hey Eric
way to hang in there..I like the fact your willing to give the advice,and have time to do so.. infact I have one for you..I just bought a 2000 modal year sn with the 1:23 tranny .. the first thing I noticed with this boat over my 87 2001 with the 1:1 tranny was the noise level (very high) on the new boat..then when I opened the engine lid and saw the transmission had (89sn) writen on it I a$$ummed someone changed the unite...so my question is did bw use straight cut planetary gears on the early 1:23 tranny then switch to angle cut gears one or two years into production...I've herd that c.c had complants with the noise level in the 89-90 production models... hope you can help??? I don't want to pull my tranny apart to see the cut on the gears.. this boat will be for sale and I'll keep my 87 before I listen to that noice every time I'am out in it... hey "78" I respect the time and advice you've offerd in the past aswell and maybe some where in all that rant you have a point but you need to get laid man life is too short.. thanks for the entertainment to everyone who has posted in this one WOW |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-07-2006 at 9:11am
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they are all the same, helical bevel cut. The only spur gears in the trans our on the reverse planetary in which you will get a noisey reverse. how noisey is yours? they were some noisey ones back then and no problems arose, it is possible your damper plate springs are weakoning causing noise. also the other things that will cause noise are: timing, mis-fire, mis-alignment. torsionals will always be a problem because of the direct mechanical connection, unlike a trans in a car with a torque converter you have a hydraulic connection in which the torsionals are eliminated in the oil in the converter. try eliminating all the other possibilities first (mis-fires etc...) these all aggravate and amplify torsionals
------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-07-2006 at 9:24am
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All of the 1.23 trannies have a fairly loud whine to them- its certainly very different from your old 1:1. You are correct that there was an issue with the early (89-90) units, though I cant recall what the problem was exactly. I do know that the fix was made to my boat before I bought it. My uncle had a '90 that required the same fix. ------------- |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-07-2006 at 10:00am
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I do remember one for our local dealers here in cleveland and i swapped the planetary and the noise virtually went away and the initial complaint was noise from thier customer. when i tore it appart i found nothing wrong so i went ahead and swapped a newer stlye planetary and never heard back. was it the noise? i dont know. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 87sn2001
Date Posted: September-07-2006 at 11:18pm
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I'am going to look closer at this tranny to see if there any other signs of tampering.. I bought it from my local dealer and there good guys so I do'nt think they would screw me.. if your sitting behind the engine you can'nt talk comfortable with the person beside you.. you have to yell..if your infront of the engine it's bad only till you get up to cruzing speed...then you talk loud.
the 89sn on the tranny has me thinking..this is a 2000 196 sn.. when you changed this plantary for the dealer, did you change the ring gear and planet?..why I ask is maybe there are two cuts..different part numbers? early/late style. I wish I new of some one that has the same year boat to compare with.. when you say torsionals I a$$ume your talking of the springs in the damper plate?.. this noise reminds me of the th400 transmission that came in some heavyduty trucks..these th400s had straight cut gears.. but you say there all helical cut..so thats that.. this boat only has 165 hours on it. if its the original transmission the plantary must be allright.. guess I'll just turn the stereo up for now.. anyone else think there 6 year old boat is too loud???????? thanks guy/gals if any |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-08-2006 at 9:06am
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it sounds more torsional related if the noise gets softer with rpm, what does it sound like in nuetral? I only replaced the planet, I personally never heard the noise in the boat or on the test stand, and i did not replace the ring, is the engine fine tuned? all the plugs good and wires? these all contribute to torsional noise. remember torsionals are always more predomenent at idle. the closer the power stroke gets the more the torsionals disappear, they are virtually non existant at high rpm ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 87sn2001
Date Posted: September-11-2006 at 11:10pm
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thanks eric
there's no noice in neutral..this week-end I paid closer attention to the rpm that is the loudist and 2200-2800 seems to be the loudist..I'll check the things you suggested and go from there..I think going in the same modle and year would answer all..I my just be use to my 1987...with the exception of the exhaust on that boat was not bad for sound..I'll keep you up to date if anything comes of it. thanks for your time cheers |
Posted By: 87sn2001
Date Posted: September-19-2006 at 12:52am
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Just a quick tec note on the gear noise in the 89-90 transmissions...I was in the dealer today asking of the noise level in my boat and if they knew of any tranmission swap in my boat..they a$$ured me the tranny in my boat was original and the 89 wrighen on it, was the hours on the boat at the time of servicing..made sence...here is the thing they told me about the 89-90 modles...they were produced in Italy and the gear cut was different and C.C. changed unites that were complaned about back in the early 90's...the extra noise I'am experenceing is the windshield design..the rounded windshields are noiser then the older boats..
go figure the boat still skis like a dream and thats what counts.. happy skiing/boarding |