RR vs. LR Motor - 1976 Tique Restore Project
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Topic: RR vs. LR Motor - 1976 Tique Restore Project
Posted By: Risley00
Subject: RR vs. LR Motor - 1976 Tique Restore Project
Date Posted: August-09-2019 at 10:09pm
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Hi All, Been on here for a few weeks now, muddling through all the great information and getting myself realistic about the restoration project of the boat that is so dear to my heart. Needing help re: motor. The original 302 crank shaft broke into two 6 yrs ago. The boat had it's motor pulled, and a replacement block put in (unsure of the year but it had been a replacement motor for an '83 F150- put into the truck in the earl 2000s). Old engine and bits were all sent to scrap yard. I have some wood & fiberglass repair to do on the stringers, too. Fast forward to today- we've got a LR motor and a RR boat... we have the marine starter, carburetor, exhaust manifolds, and not much else. I've gotten some good suggestions on my main thread http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47838&PID=574483#574483" rel="nofollow - Main Restoration Thread and also had a good recommendation to post here, in General, too. So, if time and money weren't an issue- how would you go about getting the motor running? Thanks in advance! ------------- -Risley |
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: August-09-2019 at 11:40pm
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Take a couple of pictures of the engine and parts you have. You say you have starter, carb, exhaust. Do you have the motor mounts, bellhousing, alternator, raw water pump and it’s bracketry, etc? Let’s figure out what you have and don’t have first. Pictures would really help. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: August-10-2019 at 10:09am
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It's relatively easy to buy a whole new 302 reverse rotation, 2 piece main seal long block so if you put some pictures up like Gary mentioned and do some engine disassembly to figure out what bolt on parts you have it wouldn't be a terrible project. The 2 piece rear main seal engine was what was originally in your boat Here's a link down below to a company that'll sell you a long block as described above. It's stock number is DM 35 http://www.rebuiltmarineengines.com/assets/Docs/ATK_Marine_Catalog.pdf" rel="nofollow - link The guy on the phone will tell you that they don't sell to the public and then offer to transfer you to their branch that does. Then somebody from Gearhead engines picks up and you can order a long block. You could get the same ATK long block through Summit, Jeg's etc but ATK/Gearhead have a 10% off deal sometimes. Free shipping from Texas to Maine in roughly 5 maybe 6 days . 1880 bucks but all the tough stuff is done. And remember that you need to verify what you have now for parts as Gary mentioned And another and ...................whatever you have for a starter now may turn the engine the wrong way, but that can get figured out before putting it on the engine. The starter has bit plenty of people. You may or may not have the original reverse rotating starter right now. |
Posted By: Risley00
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 9:23pm
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Thank you!!! To refresh the thread, since we're ready to spend some money... The original engine is gone. We still have the original exhaust and intake manifolds, carburetor, transmission, drive plate, flywheel, the accessory brackets, raw water pump, alternator, oil pan, distributor, starter. and the engine mounts. If we call the guys over at ATK, and order up a DM35 (Ford 302 Marine Engine, 75-87 Reverse Rotation) do we need to do/get anything else major? While not yet a boat guy, my husband is an engine guy so we are leaning towards installing that ourselves to try to save a bit of money. I've found a guy, Rob, at https://www.lakesregionwoodenboats.com who would (I think, still waiting on a quote- we had a great conversation today) do the structural repair for me. If we can afford it, we want to source that out to someone with the time, skill, and experience to do it right so this boat will last us a long, long time. Really appreciate all the help!! ------------- -Risley |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 9:42pm
https://www.lakesregionwoodenboats.com" rel="nofollow - Here's a direct link to Rob at LRWB I'm sure he's qualified but my only concern is his cost. A wooden boat shop is Wolfeboro NH is not going to come cheap. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Risley00 wrote:Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 10:35pm
| Pete, your link doesn’t work. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 10:42pm
David, Works for me. Try it again. Thanks for alerting me. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 11:05pm
Your hubby being an engine guy, shouldn't have much problem getting the ATK long block finished and installed  Just remember that the starter and distributor and a few other parts you have now need to be for a RR engine. With the previous normal rotation truck engine mentioned in the first post, it's hard to know what you have right now for the starter or distributor. A picture of the distributor showing the gear on the bottom of the shaft would be a good thing to post about now to give an idea about what you might have .
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Posted By: DVskier
Date Posted: May-26-2020 at 11:42pm
| Link works now. |
Posted By: Risley00
Date Posted: May-27-2020 at 11:18am
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I'll get those pictures tonight! I know Rob will probably be expensive, I'm worried I won't fix it correctly and after talking to a few folks and Rob- I have confidence in his skills. Our camp is on Balch Lake, East Wakefield NH so Wolfeboro, although far from home, is close to camp. We'll see what he quotes me, maybe the sticker shock will be motivation- right now we've got a near 5 yr old and an 18 month old so finding time to tinker on the boat is hard. ------------- -Risley |
Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: May-27-2020 at 12:32pm
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I’ve seen the brand ATK DM ** listed Are they good Rebuilt motors USA Or Cheap Chinese |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: May-27-2020 at 12:41pm
I’ve done 2 ATK’s and have been happy so far. I forget the details but they’re a “TexMex” company. I was actually happier with them than Jasper. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: illiniball2000
Date Posted: May-27-2020 at 12:46pm
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I have a 302 that purchased a long block from Summit Racing that I installed into my 67 Starflite that I decided to part out. I also had installed a DUI distributor. I also purchased new exhaust manifolds when the for it when the new long block was installed. It is about three years old with only a few hours each year. I didn't run it last year at all. I have it sitting in my new shed ready to be pulled. Let me know if you are interested and i can give some more details. ------------- Beer is my friend 87 Dominique Had 67 Starflite |
Posted By: Orlando76
Date Posted: May-27-2020 at 2:07pm
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That Summit 302 is likely an ATK. Summit sells a few other brands though. Summit is who I bought my last one from. Good peeps. ------------- Please support The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation 1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
Posted By: illiniball2000
Date Posted: May-27-2020 at 2:13pm
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I have original paperwork somewhere. I can check but that doesn't sound right. I will try to find it and report back. ------------- Beer is my friend 87 Dominique Had 67 Starflite |
Posted By: Risley00
Date Posted: May-27-2020 at 5:39pm
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Yeah, check and let me know- is it a reverse rotation or standard? ------------- -Risley |
Posted By: illiniball2000
Date Posted: May-27-2020 at 6:03pm
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Summit Racing Ford 302 Reverse Rotation First Mate Marine - I believe out of Nebraska I would be happy to share the invoice from the engine and the DUI Distributor ------------- Beer is my friend 87 Dominique Had 67 Starflite |
Posted By: Risley00
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 12:51pm
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I'd appreciate that, message me directly? ------------- -Risley |
Posted By: illiniball2000
Date Posted: May-28-2020 at 7:10pm
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sent pm ------------- Beer is my friend 87 Dominique Had 67 Starflite |
Posted By: illiniball2000
Date Posted: June-02-2020 at 1:21am
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Not sure if you saw my private message? Wasn’t able to store pictures there. Will need alternate way email/text if interested. Thanks, Brian ------------- Beer is my friend 87 Dominique Had 67 Starflite |
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Date Posted: June-02-2020 at 4:04am
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