hot and cold starting '89 SN
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Topic: hot and cold starting '89 SN
Posted By: WakeskateNW
Subject: hot and cold starting '89 SN
Date Posted: April-28-2020 at 1:41am
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Been working on fine tuning my '89 in hopes of not having to use the throttle so much to fire up the engine. 351w - Ignition is points and carb is the 4160 When starting cold a single throttle pump before turning the key, and it fires right up but I have to keep the throttle cracked slightly for maybe 30 seconds to keep it running until it warms enough to put the throttle back into the neutral position. For warm starts it doesn't want to fire up without a splash of gas (half blip of the throttle.) Maybe 1 in 10 attempts it will fire with just the key. starts instantly 100% of the time if I use the throttle. -verified timing at 10 btdc -choke seems to be functioning properly (when cold approx. 1/16" gap and continues to open as as spring heats up) -carb adjusted for max vacuum while idling forward (16 hg) (engine warm) - curb idle around 700 rpm 600 when in gear. - no gas dripping after shut-off -shifts smoothly in and out of gear not sure where to go from here, what else can I check?? also quick question regarding torque for exhaust headers : I refreshed my headers and risers over the winter; when reinstalling I torqued to 18 ft lbs and re torqued after a heat cycle. On one side I think I can hear a faint exhaust leak developing that wasn't there initially, curious how much more I can safely tighten it? thanks 
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: April-28-2020 at 8:25am
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Ross, I feel you starting procedure is normal. I've always heard and can confirm that Fords are "cold blooded". If you get any differant results keep us informed. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: April-28-2020 at 9:15am
PCM says 18 to 24 ft lbs is the torque spec for the exhaust manifold bolts. You should probably be happy with your cold start and for the hot start issue, I'd be twiddling around with the idle mixture screws and the idle speed adjustment screw as a start. It will be trial and error and may not meet the textbook prescribed "max vacuum in gear" when you're done  Note where they're adjusted to now so you have your baseline adjustments to fall back on if needed. I'd be adjusting for more gas flow at idle to start with
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WakeskateNW wrote:Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-28-2020 at 9:45am
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Sounds like you’re pretty close. I’d start by bumping up the idle a little (you want 650 or so in gear, maybe as high as 700- 600 usually too low). If that doesn’t work, go just a tad richer on the idle mixture (like 1/4 turn) and hopefully that fattens it up enough to restart nicely. Agree that the cold start sounds normal. Marine carbs don’t have any high idle settings or the like so a minute or 2 spent at 1200rpm to get some heat into the engine is often a good thing. It should idle ok once the temp gauge hits 100, sometimes a little before. |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: April-28-2020 at 11:27am
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I concur There is no high idle with the choke, you're going to have to give it some extra throttle when cold somehow you don't want to go too crazy tuning for cold starts and compromise everywhere else. You're thirty seconds of extra throttle is quite on the mark and most would be extremely satisfied Choke is very critical to the metal's ambient temperature. that said, chock Setting 1/8" open at 75F, if quite valid Setting 1/8" open at say 55 F, is too loose, you're going to to need some modest tension holding the plate fully closed. Warm, does the engine truly need a 'splash of gas', or does it start just as easily with a slight crack of throttle? these details are important in the diagnostics. Are you certain both idle circuits adjustments are effective? If one screw cannot starve the engine down, the circuit is clogged and will protest clean restarts, as well as smooth transitions ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: WakeskateNW
Date Posted: April-29-2020 at 4:16pm
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appreciate the feedback, I will gladly accept the cold start for what it is, and am happy to report I finally found the sweet spot after "twiddling" with the idle mixture and idle speed screws enough. it was definitely tuned too lean. loving these turn-key restarts! |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: April-29-2020 at 6:20pm
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Look at that, you've mastered the fine art of "twiddling" Good job
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