Ford Wrench ???
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Topic: Ford Wrench ???
Posted By: Mojoman
Subject: Ford Wrench ???
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 3:24pm
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OK, it seems like there is no perfect tool for adjusting the shaft packing, and it has been brought up to get a "Ford" wrench because it has a smooth, no toothed grip. What does this thing look like, so I can go and tool up my own and sell it to Skidim ???
Mine is chewed all the hell from the PO.. There has to be a better way then pipe or monkey wrenches... Moj' 
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Posted By: jon4pres
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 4:03pm
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I used a large cresent wrench and a large pair of chanel locks. ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1801&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980 - 82 2001 jon4pres@gmail.com Fort Scott Kansas |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 4:21pm
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Consider making some short-handled wrenches from Aluminum bar stock. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: jimbo
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 4:39pm
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I've used a combination of a BIG cresent wrench, big channel locks and a pipe wrench. The best I've found is two pipe wrenches. I bet the chewed up nut is the result of too small a pair of channel locks.
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Posted By: Mojoman
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 5:13pm
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This is what I mean.. There are several favorite tools to adjust the packing. I can tool a forged wrench no problem if I get an idea of the perfect tool you'd want to use...
Suggestions..?? Moj' |
Posted By: marks
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 6:07pm
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How about using an adjustable slip nut wrench.
http://www.idealtruevalue.com/servlet/the-55343/Detail |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 9:42pm
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I believe Mojo is asking what would the perfect tool look like, if it existed. I think he owns a casting or forging business. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 9:57pm
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how fancy do you want to get dave? That's if you want to make a special purpose built tool? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: October-04-2006 at 10:29pm
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Dave; If you make a special tool, I'll buy one.
I need a new tool for my packing as well. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: Jim_In_Houston
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 12:11am
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I could say all kinds of things about jbear's post but for the sake of good taste I will not.
My packing nut is only hand tight - go figure. ------------- Happy owner of a '66 and a '68 Mustang |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 12:52am
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Thanks for the respect J_I_H. No more speedo jokes from here.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 7:24am
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what size is the does the hex have to be?
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: Mojoman
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 7:34am
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Yes, Brian is correct I run a company that specializes in metal O.E.M. parts. I can make the perfect tool for this if I know what to make. What I mean by this is if there is a perfect tool or tools for this job, I can get it done. Since it certainly seems like there's nothing like this sold, I could draw it up and send it in for review and quotation.
79', JBear, offer away, what would be your answer for a tool to adjust the packing nuts.. Moj' |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 7:54am
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basicly what you need are two tools or a tool that does both. One a mini pipe wrench to hold the collar and another ractheting type wrench for the packing nut. Let me take a look at the packing gland on the old hull at my friends house I'm heading there today anyway and I thing it's still there an hasn't been striped off of it already. Now Dave you might have to pay royalities or buy the design if your going to patten it and ma$$ produce it, that is if you like the design I come up with haven't design anything in a couple months so that while be a good fresher coarse for board work since I don't have a cadd package to use and hate autocad lite. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 8:11am
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Hey Moj, A ford wrench is all I use on my shaft packings. I have two of them from working on airplanes for the last 15 years. I used them on fuel lines and hydraulic lines on the big engines. Anyway bottom line is "google it" Type in ford wrench and the first website at the top of the list shows you a great picture of one and an option to to order it. I just looked on ebay and they have several. Even have the ford script writing on them (hince the name I guess, kinda like allen wrench). They work great. No need to go to alot of trouble in designing one. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: Mojoman
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 9:10am
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Buy the royalties or patents to what Chris? I'm not sure I follow you.. Our tool division makes millions of open ended box wrenches. There is no protection on design of an open ended wrench.. Isn't that all we need to do here (well that is if CC used like size packing nuts over the years). Why the need for an adjustable wrench at all, they just chew up the bra$$... Hell these wrenches don't even need to be forged and heat treated, I can make a stamped steel, zinc plated wrench to perform the function of snugging up the packing and jam nut. Tensil strength really isn't needed here right?..
Morfoot, Thanks for the reference on the "Ford" wrench.. @$26 bucks for one, I'd be able to see you a set of 5 open end wrenches.. Again, isn't that utopia here? (using a wrench made to the correct OD of the nut)? Something simple, inexpensive, etc... Moj' |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 11:39am
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Dave I was jurking you a little but was thinking of a little more complexed tool.
as I see it you need something to hold the collar has you loosen the jam nut then tighten the packing nut. Never realy had an issue with using a pipe wrench and large channel locks, just use the right pressure and you don't cut up the bra$$ when it doesn't slip. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Darrel
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 1:37pm
| I recently switched to the "gortex" packing from DIM. Hand tight and no drips or heat. I gotta agree w/ 79, it doesnt need that much pressure on the jam nut to snug down the hand tight packing nut. Is anyone putting the safety wire back on? Big channel locks and a pipe wrench works for me. |
Posted By: WackyWillie
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 2:09pm
Mo: Your on the right track with a Ford wrench 
If you don't know what a Ford wrench is then you'll never know you ever needed one in the first place, so just keep on using your pipe wrench. For that matter, a chisel and a hammer will get the job done too. ------------- JJ's seein' it right. |
Posted By: jimbo
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 3:15pm
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I googled "Ford wrench"...that's a monkey wrench!
You could make a fixed size stamped steel wrench but I doubt you would sell many. You've got a limited market. Plus, I don't know but I would guess the nuts are larger on the 1-1/8" dia shaft compared to the 1". With that said, it would definately be cheaper for someone that does not have pipe wrenches or large channel locks lying around. Maybe in addition to selling them to DIM and the like, you could sell them to Correct Craft and other inboard manufactures to include in a kit. Maybe instead of stamped steel you could make the wrenches out of polypropylene or something along those lines. You can mold the tool to the right thickness so that it slips off the nut at the right torque to prevent over-tightening. I still wouldn't buy one, I'm happy with two pipe wrenches. And I second the Gortex packing and will eventually switch to a drippless seal. Just my thoughts. |
Posted By: WackyWillie
Date Posted: October-05-2006 at 3:32pm
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Here's one in good shape on ebay item #120038384657 for a couple bucks. This stupid little wrench will open to about 5 inches like a crescent wrench will. No need to buy new. Go get it boys ------------- JJ's seein' it right. |
Posted By: GrandSlam
Date Posted: October-06-2006 at 11:02am
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Try tapping the little nut on the edge first with a hammer to knock it loose before you go wrenching, I have used that method to budge mine that were corroded from salt water, then I just use channel lucks, the Jersey has 2” shafts so must other wrenches would not fit. I eventually got tired of drippy logs and water in the bilges and replaced with PYI’s PSS. Jerry ------------- Jerry Troy USCG Master, 100GT 1989 23' Fish Nautique 1992 47' Jersey SF |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 11:09am
| Seafit makes a adjustable packing nut wrench. West marine #290280 at about $10.00 |
Posted By: 2fat2ski
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 1:37pm
| I bought 2 of the adjustable packing gland wrenches from West Marine about 6 years ago and use them all the time on customer's boats. They work FANTASTIC! Everyone should have a couple in their tool boxes. They make a sometimes frustrating job go rather easy. I throw them in my small tool box and go to the lake and adjust the packing on the water. Once the drips stop. I come back to the shop and safety wire the nuts together with stainless safety wire. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-10-2006 at 6:00am
| The packing nut wrenchs are the only way to go especially if you are trying to get through one of the small round access plates in the floor. The other thing is you don't end up with nuts looking like they have been chewed on by a bronze beaver! You guys with the pipe wrenchs, chisels, and hammers, do you also use channel locks and pliers on decorative nuts? Pete |
Posted By: Mojoman
Date Posted: October-10-2006 at 8:27am
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Thanks for all the info.. I'll Check out what West Marine has.. I was just looking to see if someone actually made a wench for this specific purpose..
Moj' |
Posted By: '88 nautique
Date Posted: October-20-2006 at 10:36am
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Will you post the telephone number or web address for West Marine please.
Thank you.. Brad |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: October-20-2006 at 2:58pm
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88,
Website is: www.westmarine.com ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-20-2006 at 5:54pm
This does look like a great tool.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?resultCt=1&jspStoreDir=wm51&catalogId=10001&productId=25825&keyword=290280&y=25&x=21&storeId=10001&ddkey=SiteSearch - Packing Nut Wrench Like pete said, if your trying to go through the access hole it would be perfect. But at $13.00 each + shipping, I'm going to continue to use my big adjustable wrench and big chanel locks. worked good for me before, just have to be carefull ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-20-2006 at 6:26pm
Oh come on Randy. We're talking about the chance to buy a new tool for no other reason than because we can. Go for it. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Randy_in_Ohio wrote:Posted By: '88 nautique
Date Posted: October-20-2006 at 7:09pm
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Well, that was simple, I'm an idiot. Next time just I'll try adding www.
thank you for helping an moron..... Brad |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-20-2006 at 7:30pm
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It should come up if you just type westmarine.com, as well. Must have been some type of domaining issue. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-21-2006 at 12:29am
It's called an "ID-10-T" error. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-21-2006 at 12:50am
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BKH- New tools are cool... but I would rather put the $$ into one of those PSS shaft seals. I was just reading Keiths http://correctcraftfan.com/articles/PSS.asp - Review looks like this is the way to go.
I picked up some of the Gortex stuff rom DIM.when I bought it there was nothing in the packing gland. My local marina was only able to supply me with about 8" of flax rope, enough to make two rings. I plan on using the GOrtex stuff for now and hopefully getting a PSS next year. Need to put the $$ into other things first. You know, make it look good ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |