Ding in hull
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Printed Date: September-26-2024 at 1:44pm
Topic: Ding in hull
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Subject: Ding in hull
Date Posted: October-07-2006 at 4:20pm
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OK, I f'ed up thursday when I took my boat out for the second time since i got it. when i was pulling it on the trailer i was not straight and hit something. I didn't think it was a problem until today when I looked at it. there is a chip (about two inches long by 1/4 inch wide) in the gel coat about 18 inches down from the front eyelet (the one you attach the trailer turnbuckle to) right on the "V" of the hull. I was going to put it in the water today and take the kids out for the first time. I asked the local marina and they said I should fix it before putting it in the water. They sold me a product called Marine-Tex Epoxy Putty. It is white in color. I realize the color may not match perfectly but you cant really see it unless you are looking under the boat. they said they can order matching color patch from a company in Washington state.
Has anyone used this Marine-tex stuff? I went ahead and told them to order me some of the color matched stuff from washington. I am thinking of using this Marine-Tex stuff on the bottom, and using he other stuff on a couple spots on the top that need repaired. I would like to try to get it in the water tomorrow, probably be the last chance around here. I have read that the Epoxy is stronger than the other. What do you guys think?? Thanks ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-07-2006 at 4:39pm
here is a pic:
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Posted By: joed
Date Posted: October-07-2006 at 5:03pm
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Randy... I don't know much about the epoxy stuff.
But... by the looks of that scratch I'd say fix it this winter. Take the kids out for a ride while you can. It looks like it hardly made it thru the gelcoat... I'd say the integrity of the fibergla$$ is fine. Enjoy the boat. Just my opinion. Joe |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-07-2006 at 5:40pm
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If you're running in fresh water, and if you're not going to leave it in for more than the afternoon, don't worry about it. Get the right gel coat repair materials and fix it in the winter. DavidF is very good at these things as are some of the others. They can give you advice on what is the best material and method to use for your patch. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-07-2006 at 5:42pm
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P.S. I don't know how you would hit that part of the boat on the trailer. My guess is that the trailer was too deep in the water. Once you hit the bottom of the hull on the bunks, it should lift up and guide the boat so that the bow can't hit the trailer. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 9:02am
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It looks to me that the trailer wasnt deep enough and he hit one of the cross members on the trailer back by the axle.
Pat ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 10:44am
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Randy...marine tex will work, however it would be hard to match and it's possible that flex in the hull may cause the repair to give up. I have used that product before.
A much better way is...use a gelcoat paist product that you mix the color and get the closest match. For temp fix... you can always seal it with resin. I agree with the others...not worry about it for now. The BEST product IMO, is the Minicraft of florida gel putty! You can buy a color wheel and get real close with a match. Down side is...mim order is a pint(thats a bunch more than you need $80.00). I was able to match a Salem Orange on a 72 using the color wheel. Also...as others have stated...trailer not deep enough. You can wrap the cross members with bunk carpet a tie it off with heavy duty zip ties! No more worries...cheep fix thaat works! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 11:16am
I was leaning that way as well pat, except that Randy mentioned he was sideways. It's pretty hard to get sideways on a trailer when it isn't in the water deep enough. I suppose anything's possible. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
p/allen wrote:Posted By: Darrel
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 1:15pm
| i have used the Marine tex in the past. Its very strong and will do the job BUT, color match is tough. The original Marine Tex color is much brighter white than the CC silver cloud (white). You will be happier with the matched gel. |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 2:24pm
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Marine Tech will work as long as the repair is not deep(it won't flex and can crack)...Randys srape is barely to the gla$$ and not deep.It would most likely do the job. ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 9:00pm
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I went ahead and put the Marine-tex on it last night. I figured it was under the water line and you would never notice the color difference. the stuff seemed to work great. I just taped off the surrounding area preped the spot, mixed up the marine-tex (I used the whole thing, didn't want to try to guess the amount of hardener to add). I left it overnight with a heat lamp on it and sanded it lightly this morning. the color match wasn't too bad. you would have to damn near lay on you back to see it any way. I took it out today, took my twin boys out for the first time. they were thrilled! They can't wait to be pulled behind it! probably the last nice day we will have around here for awhile.
I'm still not sure if the trailer was too deep or not deep enough. I had the water covering the top of the wheel wells. Last two times I had a hell of a time getting the turnbuckle to reach the eyelet. I'm thinking it may have been too deep. Stang- I like the idea of the carpet on the cross members, I may have to do that. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 9:12pm
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randy...soundin good man! If you are too deep, you can swing over a fender and maybe scape the hull!
Usually...(most ramps)we have the top of the trailor fenders right at the water line(level). ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 9:18pm
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Another tip....most folks drive the boat streight in and power it on. I do it a bit differently...I come in slow and streight(like the others do) but hit reverse lightly ,stopping right where I can reach out and grab the guide pole... I use the pole to center up where I want it, shift my wieght to the middle and power it up until it spots at the bow stop! I never screw up that way! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 9:26pm
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Thanks for the tip stang! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 11:30pm
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Stang, that's a good way. It's best to let it rock in the cradle and set up before pushing it up on. I know Chris doesn't like the power on, but man, that's so much faster and easier than getting out and cranking...
I got mad at the ramp today. It was really busy and a guy just tied his boat up and went up to get his truck. 4 women were in his boat (and don't get excited, none of them would be too welcome in my boat) and they all just sat there having a party while he blocked on whole lane of the ramp. My wife went and backed our trailer in where they were docked and they yelled at her, and she told them to move their boat (which of course they couldn't). She did it just to help them learn when the ramp is busy, you don't set up camp in one of the lanes! I mentioned the same thing to them on the way out. They got the double whammy from us. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 95 Sport |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-08-2006 at 11:58pm
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At the ramp...thats were you really see the the dumbest of dumb sh-ts! I've seen them sink there,loose them off the trailer...and some good brawls!
I have this one buddy and his wife...slickest system on the ramp you will ever see. As she is backing in...he's already powering on...she starts to pull out when he is 90% on and he powers it the rest while she is pulling out....turns the engine off right as they are heading away up the ramp! It's about a 15 second process max! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 12:33am
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Stang,
Our system is pretty close to that. I love it when folk are out in the other two lanes trying to get their boat on or off the trailer and we just WHACK, are out of the water. You can see them looking at you going, "How'd they do that?" I made Rochelle learn to put the boat on or back the truck in either way. Working on my son too. I want them all to be able to do each part of the system so we never have any reason to tie up to the dock like those clowns today were. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995 - 95 Sport |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 12:43am
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You should have seen us all at Lake Shelbyville for the mini fall reunion! It was bing batta boom with 7 inboards! It was like..."don't try this at home kids, these guy's are professionals". Everyone was out in a jiffy...cool to watch! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 10:26am
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Sorry I am late to this party. Randy, glad the Marine Tex worked out for you. If it happens again, may I suggest the following:
1. Go ahead and use the boat as often as you want before you fix the blemish. Just make sure you thouroughly roughen up the blemish and clean with acetone before doing the repair. 2. Fix with gelcoat. Afterall, that is what you lost. Most all marine stores sell gelcoat touch up kits. The hard part is matching the color, but women are better at this than men. The kits usually have gelcoat paste which is bit easier to work with for the novice. Gelcoat can be tinted to any color whereas I am not sure about the Marine Tex product. Glad you got it patched up satisfactorily. If you need details on how to patch with gelcoat, give me a shout. It really is fairly easy. ------------- |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 10:52am
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David- better late than never! I ordered some of the gelcoat paste that is supposed to be color matched to my boat from the local marina. I have a couple chips on the top I want to fix before I buff it out this winter. Do you have any tips on using the gelcoat paste?
Thanks! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 10:56am
First time out on the boat for the boys! (first time on any boat actually)
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Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 10:59am
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I don't know why that pic didn't work...? I'll try again... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 2:34pm
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hey randy, just spoke to Dan at Vandevere he called to say high and gave me his number down there 800-311-7694 give him a try for your cc parts if needed, he's a good guy ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 3:17pm
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Thanks Eric. I will be sure to give them a call when I need something. I did not realize they were a nautique dealer. Do they sell parts out of the Arlington rd. location? I drive past there everyday on my way home from work.
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Posted By: 2fat2ski
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 3:34pm
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No, Randy. We operate out of the West Market St. location. Not too far away from there. We became the C.C. dealer in November, '05. We offer full service and parts, as well as new and used sales. Give us a call if you need anything, or email me at danm@vandevere.com. I've known Eric for a few years. He gets ALL of my trans work. No one is better or faster than Eric and his guys. Thanks for the great words Eric! We appreciate it! Dan ------------- Certified Correct Craft and PCM technician |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 4:15pm
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Dan- I know where your at, I will give you a call if I need anything. I am putting the number in my phone now... I didn't know you guy's dealt in CC. Thanks
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Posted By: 2fat2ski
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 4:25pm
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Randy, No Problem! Anything I can do to help. Yes, we're the C.C. dealer here in NE Ohio. Our new showroom and pro shop are under construction as we speak. The dry wall is up and we're waiting on the paint. Let me know your email address and we'll send you our scredule of events. We have a nice party coming up close to Christmas, kind of a customer appreciation party. We hope you can attend. We'll have good Christmas gift ideas you can ask the wife to get you. Dan ------------- Certified Correct Craft and PCM technician |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 4:25pm
I used photobucket this time, upload on this site doesn't seem to be working...
Me and the boys 
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Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 8:53pm
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Great shots Randy!!!! Day on the lake... the twins and Dad...nothing but big smiles! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 9:05pm
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Randy, Great shots, the boys will never forget their summers on the boat.
PS. Your files didn't upload because the are too large. 114K there is a 35K limit. Try the 3rd one again, only 32K, I bet that one will go. Dan, welcome to the site ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 9:08pm
Yup, size is the problem, get yourself a photo editing program and drop the actual size or the resolution of the image and they will work ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 11:48pm
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81- Damn! I thought it was < 35k! (too small any way)
photobucket.com worked pretty good, if you can get by all the ad's. Justin (in blue) was a little scared going fast at first, Joey (in red) No fear at all! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-09-2006 at 11:57pm
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Dan- Good to know I have a CC dealer within 20 miles of me. Let me know when the showroom and Pro-shop are complete.
you can send me email at: rwise@neo.rr.com ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: 2fat2ski
Date Posted: October-10-2006 at 8:58am
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Thanks for the welcome, 81Nautique!
Randy, I put your name on our mailer list. You'll be getting the emails from Jason, our Sales Mgr. He's a great guy and loves boating as much as the rest of us. I hope we can help you out in the future, as well as anyone else on this site. We're restricted by territories for new boat sales, but everything else is an open market. We even have a new web site going up soon just for boats. In the mean time, all of our inventory is listed on Vandevere.com. Dan ------------- Certified Correct Craft and PCM technician |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 3:16pm
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The marina that said they could get me the custom matched gelcoat repair paste called me today and said they couild not get it, they sasid all they could get was full gallons of gelcoat for $80. I did some poking around on these forums and found a place Spectrum.com thanks to a previous post from Nautique2001 that has Silver Cloud for 1993-2000. This is the white color I need according to Darrels' previous post. I am going to order some. funny thing, I bet this is the same place the Marina had contacted, they said it was in Washington state and so is Spectrum. Hummm... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 11:15pm
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Randy...you are just fixing some small chips in the gelcoat right? I believe David F mentioned the paste kits that you mix pigment...about $25.00. You can get pretty close.
Also...go to the Mini Craft of Fla web site(great products!)...click the tab for gelcoat repair kits. The kit is about $80.00 (shelf life 3-4 months)...it is a bit expensive but you get a pint and will have way more than enough to fix all spots! They do have hull colors for Correct Craft, however, because gel fades it won't match....Soooo you use the color wheel they sell and I bet you will find one that is very close! If you want...I can send you the color wheel...check it out and send it back to me. ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 11:22pm
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Forgot to mention...if you do go the route of paste...let me know! I had a discussion with the Magic Man Alan a few weeks ago...we discovered a good way to match to curve in the hull...great for your spot or chines! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 11:38pm
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yep, just a couple chips. I already ordered the gelcoat repair paste from http://www.spectrumcolor.com/catalog.htm - Spectrum . I'm hoping after buff it out the color will match pretty close. I really don't trust my color matching capability, and I've heard that whites can be hard to match. I am going to check out the Mini Craft site anyway.
Thanks for offering me the use of the wheel, I really appreciate it. If anything goes wrong with my order, I may still take you up on the offer. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 11:47pm
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Hey Randy,
Just curious about the laws in Ohio. Here in California, kids under 12 must wear a lifejacket in a boat. I personally agree with the law. One of the few I do agree with. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-12-2006 at 12:23am
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BKH- Your right. That is a very good law. I intend for them to wear life jackets on the boat in the future... The only life jackets I had last Sunday were the ones that came with the boat when I bought it (all way too big for them). I need to buy new Life jackets for everyone and some extras, the ones I have are in bad shape...
I did look up the law in Ohio: "No person shall operate or permit to be operated any vessel under 18 feet long with a child less than 10 years of age on board unless the child is wearing a PFD." The PFD must be: * U.S. Coast Guard approved Type I, II, or III; * in good and serviceable condition; * of appropriate size; * securely attached. Since my boat is 21 feet long I didn't break any laws... But like I said before I plan on making them wear them from now on, even though they are both excelent swimmers, you just can't be too safe. things can happen so quickly... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: tjlake
Date Posted: October-18-2006 at 3:21pm
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Randy, Great pics of the boys. Like I told you in the e-mail, you've got A L O T of fun coming your way. Those boys will be wearing you out with "just one more pull, dad" before you know it! Joe ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1882&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1985&yrend=1985 - 85 ski nautique |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-19-2006 at 2:18pm
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Joe-
Thanks again for the pics, my kids are so excited to start. We can't wait until next summer! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |