1997 Ski Nautique fiberglass resin??
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Topic: 1997 Ski Nautique fiberglass resin??
Posted By: wetskier2000
Subject: 1997 Ski Nautique fiberglass resin??
Date Posted: November-22-2020 at 8:40am
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What type of resin would have been used in a 1997 Ski Nautique? Epoxy, vinyl, polyester, something else?? thanks! ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-22-2020 at 9:09am
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Ashland AME 5000 resin You can read some about it in the link below  http://www.reyquimtec.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/CP_MarineBrochure_v4-1.pdf" rel="nofollow - link Or Google it for other info
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-22-2020 at 11:45am
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thanks very much for this info... I did a quick search to try and find a place to purchase this but no luck yet... I emailed NautiqueParts.... we'll see... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-22-2020 at 12:05pm
Rick, Are you doing some glass work and are concerned about the resin type? If so, I'd suggest just going epoxy. It's stronger, will bond to the AME and it's not hygroscopic.
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wetskier2000 wrote:Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-22-2020 at 12:35pm
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I'm gonna guess that if you click on the link below, you'll know what he wants to do http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/forum/nautique-topics/maintenance-technical-discussion/628572-fg-work-1997-ski-nautique" rel="nofollow - link
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-22-2020 at 4:07pm
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I was kinda hoping you were gonna put some glass on your "new" platform Here's my temporary abomination.....  |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-22-2020 at 4:42pm
LOL!! I found a place in St Pete that is building me a new platform.... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-23-2020 at 12:50pm
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I don't see you getting much attention here or on PN. I think I'd just get a small amount of vinylester resin and a little cloth or mat for doing the repair and then a small gel coat kit for matching the color after that.
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-23-2020 at 1:20pm
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A better explanation would have helped us answer the real question... thanks KenO for the link. I’d use epoxy on the inside repairs and have that handle the structural half of the fix. Is that block not for the grab handle? Tough to tell where it’s located from the pic. I’d use vinyl for any exterior repairs prior to gel. |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 8:56am
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Thanks guys, I appreciate all the input! I thought my first concern should be matching what the boat was built with but the general consensus seems to be Epoxy for the underside, structural repairs... Clearly epoxy resin is far easier to obtain... My plan is to remove the hanging matt/resin and build back up from the inside, then address the cracks in the gelcoat. I question how to keep the new matt and resin in place since it's overhead. I was thinking a aluminum sheet formed to the area that could be used to "prop up" the new work until it's cured enough to stay put itself. The resin won't stick to the aluminum. Any thoughts on this??    ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 9:02am
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Wax paper or saran wrap. Both peel off easily after curing. Or even a zip lock bag- size depending on how big a piece you need to cover ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 9:52am
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Epoxy will certainly stick to aluminum. If the shape doesn’t match that of the transom perfectly then it wouldn’t help much anyways. Lay it up in multiple thin layers (I’d use more cloth than mat) and gravity won’t fight you much. Keep revisiting the area as it cures and roll out any air bubbles that get introduced from droopage etc. Epoxy is being suggested due to its strength and ease of working. It’ll stick to all other types of glass (though the inverse is not true). Availability for any of the types isn’t a concern unless you’re trying to source locally for some reason. http://www.uscomposites.com/ |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 10:27am
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I share your concerns about the form not matching the transom perfectly... slow and steady might win the race... I might test the no form, slow and steady, overhead theory on the piece I pull out... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 10:29am
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I was using Polyester resin on alum and it didn't stick so it made a great form... epoxy maybe not so much... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 10:46am
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I'm now thinking you had better just better take it somewhere and have it done by someone who knows what their doing.... Isn't your insurance covering this? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 12:00pm
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Yes, but the issue I have is handing a large sum of money to a shop that says "We can't guarantee that it won't crack again"... More than 1 place said this.... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 12:22pm
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I have wrapped a sponge with plastic & then use a stick to hold up the patch with it. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 12:31pm
I have used party balloons inflated to hold resin and cloth in place. It's sort of like the reverse of vacuum bagging. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 12:43pm
I'm finding the cracking again hard to understand if the backing at the repair is done properly. Maybe try yet another shop? What's the insurance company saying? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-26-2020 at 12:45pm
I REALLY like this!!! Brilliant... thanks for suggesting it... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-28-2020 at 7:46pm
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I've begun the work... Removed the hanging chads,,,, err fiberglass mat/resin. found that what I thought was the backside of the gelcoat was more of the blocks that obviously are for a stronger hull... They'll go right back where I found them. I supported the "blocked" area and added my first layer of cloth and epoxy resin. It went on nicely without any sagging issues. The area is not entirely overhead which I think is helping quite a bit. Very happy with the work so far and quite confident that taking my time will yield very good results. thanks for all the help here! ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: November-30-2020 at 6:06pm
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second layer on. 1st and 2nd layers tie everything together as it was before... Subsequent layers will bring the new stuff where the old stuff was removed out to the previous thickness... It's slow going, but it's going... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-30-2020 at 6:50pm
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Rick, Glad to hear you're making some progress. How about some pictures? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: December-01-2020 at 9:36am
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Laying all the layers at once is best, if possible. This will bond the layers better than if they dry and the next layer is mechanically bonded to the previous. ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-01-2020 at 5:39pm
that makes sense... I should be able to do this going forward... thanks ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-04-2020 at 10:37am
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It worked!! I successfully put on multiple layers in one pass... Just took my time between layers enough that the previous one was tacky but not soaked,,, No sagging or dripping... Once the latest resin dries, I'll check the thickness compared to previous... I might be done on the underside... Foam question... I always assumed the foam I scooped out to do the FG work was flotation but in the FG repair section of West marine all I found was sealant foam. Have I been wrong all these years and the stuff sprayed into our Nautiques along the deck/hull joint is for sealing?? (Would not be the first time I was wrong :-) ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-05-2020 at 12:12pm
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10-12 layers... I think I'm done on the underside less the aforementioned foam... Now I'll move to the top side. My plan is to remove any cracked gelcoat or FG and create small V shaped openings. If the depths are minimal, I'll just insert a little epoxy resin. considerable depths I'll use some type of filler also... Might also use my newly acquired, fancy-dancy West Marine syringes to inject some resin, if needed. again, thanks to all here for the help! pics....  ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-05-2020 at 12:21pm
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Rick, Look'n great. One word of caution regarding the top side and that's don't use the epoxy resin there. The best fill will be gel coat and it doesn't stick to epoxy. If resin is needed there, you will need to use polyester or vinylester. Small kits of gel are available and even come with tints to mix and match your existing. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-05-2020 at 12:34pm
| I wouldn’t be injecting straight epoxy resin in any case, but I don’t understand your plan or what you’re trying to accomplish. Maybe you can elaborate. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-05-2020 at 1:21pm
Voids in his layup. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-05-2020 at 1:27pm
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thanks for the heads up on Gelcoat not sticking to epoxy... that would have really sucked to find that out after the fact! My plan is to have someone spray the entire upper transom area as I'm quite sure that a color match will be next to impossible even for a pro. I'm thinking... have them try to match the gelcoat as best they can and then have a 4-6" wide decal/wrap made that matches the top, darker tan stripe. Run that new stripe from the rub rail above the existing darker tan stripe up over each corner towards the corner of the back seat. This will cover the line of the new/old gelcoat. Nautique guys will pick out this non-stock item immediately, but without any sort of stock delineation line on the transom..... Sort of the same idea as hood stripes on some Corvettes.... like this...  On injection.. I thought if there were voids from the top once I remove the cracked gelcoat that I might fill those with a syringe of resin/hardner... I do not expect to find any considerable voids, but I just don't know yet... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-05-2020 at 1:33pm
Final pic... (the previous one was before the last 3 layers... Corvette stripes...  ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-05-2020 at 1:47pm
| If you’re going to have the whole area sprayed with gel then I don’t understand why you’re proposing to inject anything. With the structural repair done from the inside, now you can just go at the top side with a grinder to remove all loose and broken glass+gel. Fair it out then spray. You may want to talk to your gel guy first on what they’d prefer to do themselves, and how much they’re comfortable with you doing ahead of time. A discussion of materials you’d be using would be key. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: December-05-2020 at 2:15pm
Like TRB said, talk to the fiberglass guy, you'd probably get better results letting him finish from here. You could read about what resin sticks good to what resin Polyester, Vinylester, and Epoxy being the resins. Gelcoat is polyester based. Plenty of discussion to be found about whether gel coat adheres well to Epoxy depending on how "cured" the Epoxy is and what type of Epoxy it is.For the most part, it doesn't adhere very good Vinylester plays well with Epoxy or Polyester resin, so like has been said a few times already vinylester would be next, then gel on top of that. Let the fiberglass guy do it from here or he might be redoing some of what you do next for proper adhesion. Besides, if he's good you'll probably never know where the repaired spot is when he's done and you won't need any funky stripes or anything else |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: December-06-2020 at 9:21am
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Watch a true pro do it in this video and you can see how close they can get. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yoURRmkD8MY" rel="nofollow - Boatworks Today gelcoat ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: December-06-2020 at 4:57pm
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I would ask the fiberglass guy what materials he will be using before he starts the job. Sometimes you have to specifically ask for the premium package.
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-06-2020 at 6:36pm
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that color matching video was really amazing... I agree with all those that think talking to the gelcoat guy before proceeding is a good idea.... thanks again... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: December-06-2020 at 8:01pm
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I had fiberglass work done on our 95 Nautique, 5 years ago. The red and the white gel had to be matched after an accident, very visible spot on the nose. I was really afraid the boat would never look good as it did. The shop did a fabulous job and the Gel Coat today is near impossible to tell where the damage happened. I am very happy. Shop in Sacramento did the work so too far for your use but there are people that can do the work at a very high level. ------------- |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-08-2020 at 8:36pm
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I found a local guy that has very positive reviews and I felt really good about our chat... He plans to gelcoat just half the transom. I mentioned hiding the lines if needed and he was quite confident there would be no need for "funky stripes". He said "I'll be able to tell, but you won't". I said "that's exactly what I'm looking for"... It will be done next week. ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-08-2020 at 9:11pm
Quite awhile ago I repaired a hole where a PO had mounted a single lever control on my Mustang,posted pictures here but they are probably long gone. By far the hardest part of the whole job was actually matching the color,luckily my wife has a good eye for that. On a newer boat such as yours I think you did the right thing by taking it in,mine being an old boat and me being cheap I figured I had nothing to lose. In the end the job was actually easier than automotive painting.   ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-08-2020 at 10:03pm
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that's pretty nice work... foot throttle instead?? ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-09-2020 at 11:40am
Rick, I'm sure Gary will have a picture he'll post but no foot throttle. His Mustang build is a SS model where the throttle and shft levers are in a center console between the seats. Yes, he got the gel color match. He did the same on the Mustangs blue hull. He should have been into fiberglass rather that chasing small copper wires around all those years to make our phones work!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-09-2020 at 11:41am
No just replaced the missing console where the controls originally were. Had to regel that as well since donor boat was a different color. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: December-09-2020 at 12:50pm
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Nice work Gary! ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-09-2020 at 2:41pm
Nah I think I made the right career choice,how could you pass up nice clean electrical work? Quite the life until gps came out  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-09-2020 at 5:51pm
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OMFG!!! That dash is beyond beautiful!!! I had to pull the foot throttle out of my '64 as I found pulling a skier with a foot throttle back thru the wakes was less than optimal when my foot bounced on the gas....
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-17-2020 at 8:08am
Got the prop and tracking fin back. As always H&H in Salem, MA did an incredible job at a fair price. ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-18-2020 at 4:54pm
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supposed to be done tomorrow.... can't wait to see it!!! ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-18-2020 at 4:57pm
Me too! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-18-2020 at 5:03pm
My buddy down in FL picked up the new platform today for me... Only parts I don't have yet are the replacement seat skins which are in the queue... should be no problem to be ready for FL in February...  ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-18-2020 at 5:42pm
 New Platform pics.....
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: December-18-2020 at 5:47pm
That turned out great!  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-20-2020 at 11:38am
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first pic from the gelcoat guy..... I'll see it in person in a couple hours... Please ignore the fact that I obviously haven't compounded the lower transom yet... I'll get right on that....  ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-20-2020 at 11:52am
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So far, it's looking fantastic.
Was this fiberglass guy one of the ones who said:
In my opinion, any glass shop that tells you that, isn't worth going to. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-20-2020 at 12:01pm
Nope, this guy is quite confident in his work and stands behind it... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-20-2020 at 1:00pm
Rick, Sounds like you made a great choice ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-20-2020 at 5:21pm
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Looks just as nice in person!! Ride home in a snowstorm, not so nice... Kinda cleaned up and in the garage now.... Northeast Fiberglass, Laconia, NH, 3 thumbs up! They also do upholstery work. Family business, Bob, wife and 2 daughters...
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-21-2020 at 5:11pm
lower transom compounded (it was way overdue), a little wax, speedos resealed, decals on.... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: December-21-2020 at 5:15pm
 ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: MechGaT
Date Posted: December-21-2020 at 9:18pm
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Like it never happened. Looks good. ------------- '92 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: MrMcD
Date Posted: December-21-2020 at 9:49pm
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Very nice! ------------- |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: December-22-2020 at 1:40am
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Before  After  OK, now that everybody has said what a good job you and the fiberglass guy did, I just have to ask the silly question. Why did you offset the "world champion ski boat" lettering to the starboard side of the transom?
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-22-2020 at 7:34am
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I was wondering which one of you guys would notice.... and we have a winner!! In my defense, I did not take measurements on "World Champion Ski Boat" like I did for "Nautiques (R)" cuz I didn't expect him to remove all of it... OK, lame on my part, right? Yup... I could still see a little bit of the outline of what I was sure was the A in Boat and lined up on that... I still don't know how I could have mistaken it for an A when clearly it was the T. I realized I was offset, but was so sure I was lined up on the A that I proceeded. I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.  It will bug me, I'll probably order another one... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-23-2020 at 8:44am
NautiqueParts decals is apparently a bad place for me to be... There are some very cool decals that make me want to go non stock... like this one placed just to the left of my offset "World Champion Ski Boat".... I know..... FOR SHAME, FOR SHAME!!! or this one...  or this... problem with this and "since 1925" is they are 6.5" high and would crowd the Nautiques(r). No measurements are listed for AWSA sticker...  or this... but again no size listed..  ... not to worry, I ordered the replacement "World Champion Ski Boat".... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-23-2020 at 8:56am
.......and the AWSA decal...  ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-23-2020 at 9:23am
...gee, do I already have that AWSA decal..... Go pull out Nautique owner's manual.... Nope... but look at these that came with the boat back in '97...... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-27-2020 at 12:34pm
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Getting ready to put the straightened tracking fin back on... Considering removing the other 2, resealing and reinstalling... Not sure I need to and don't need to make extra work.... what say the experts??? ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-28-2020 at 4:02pm
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slid under the boat and looked at the Life Caulk around the other two tracking fins... It looked a little crusty so I pulled them and then resealed and reinstalled all 3.... Prop back on... Foam under transom shaved... getting there slowly...
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-29-2020 at 8:12am
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going to attempt to put the ass end into the river today to look for any leaks while the gas tank is out... The bilge pump would run during just a few hours of skiing and it lives on a lift so I suspect I'm getting water from somewhere... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: December-29-2020 at 12:56pm
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got a few looks launching the boat in December in NH, but nothing we aren't already used to .... found 1 leak where the starboard speedo hose goes thru the hull... easy fix... Not a drop from the rudder or exhaust... Speedo hose dripped in pretty good, made a little puddle in the 5+ minutes it was in the water..... I suspect something else is leaking but I can address that after it's driveable again... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: January-02-2021 at 5:18pm
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speedo hoses gooped... tank in... I've always had to put fuel into this boat SLOWLY or it just comes back at me... I see other references here to this being "normal" and seems to happen to lots of Nautique owners... curious, I blew in the vent hose while I had it disconnected from the tank. Air came out the vent but only if I blew GENTLY... Any force at all would seemingly close the valve and cut off the air to the transom vent fitting.... Dumb questions: What's the inline valve in the vent hose for? Rollover?? Sinking?? Should it be so "touchy"? ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-02-2021 at 6:44pm
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Rick, The check valve in the vent line is to prevent fuel spillage into the lake. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-02-2021 at 6:57pm
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Does it resemble one of these things in the link? http://www.google.com/search?q=Attwood+Fuel+Vent+Line+Surge+Protector&oq=Attwood+Fuel+Vent+Line+Surge+Protector&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" rel="nofollow - link Like Pete said it stops gas from coming out the vent line but under normal conditions it's open and keeping the tank vented. When filling the tank, it lets air out and if you fill it too much the rising gas level forces the valve shut. It also does other things like keep gas from staining your gelcoat turning decals into a gooey mush and keeps the EPA happy
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: January-03-2021 at 10:40am
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It doesn't seem to work very well... I don't generally get anything out the vent, but I get plenty out the fill hole even though I try to be very careful and fuel slowly... Hence why I had a "World Champion Ski BOA" for quite a while. All that I can gather would lead me to believe that the surge valve's main function is to close when the tank is near full and shut off the pump handle (either on auto or not).... since we rarely fill the tank and I never leave the nozzle unattended, I am considering removing the valve. If I could fuel up at anything other than SUPER SLOW without spilling that would be a win. Just trying to find the super slow setting on most gas pumps will squirt back at me... Make sense or just plain crazy??? ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-03-2021 at 10:50am
Worth a try Plenty of boats don't have that valve. Also plenty of boats without the valve that fill slow from the gas pump Only one way to find out You launched it not long ago, so it should be child's play to tow it to a gas station at this time of year. Just tell anybody that asks that the river's not frozen so you're headed out for some fun With your new decal job, you may have to cover the O,A and the T
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: January-04-2021 at 8:39am
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Valve is out, seats, panels, etc all back in... pretty much ready for FL except for the new seat skins. We can live with what's there for now if need be... I plan to bring the old valve with me to FL and test it there... Of course, now I'm second guessing the valve removal.... What happens when I back down a steep ramp with a full tank of fuel? hmmmmmm......
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Posted By: 67 ski nat
Date Posted: January-04-2021 at 9:09am
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My favorite look of the 70’s SN are those 3 decals, US flag, awsa, and the CC1925 Makes it look ‘tournament’, like the boat won a prize |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: January-05-2021 at 6:12am
You should compare notes with slmskrs or maybe any other owners of the same year range of SN below about your "flow issues" and you'll probably find out you all have the same issue at the gas station most likely due to the angle of the fuel hose whether you have the valve in the vent line or not. Maybe start a new thread about your flow issues so it'll be noticed instead of being buried in a fiberglass resin topic You'll probably get lots of agreement on the slow fill at the pump. Or do a search and you'll find it's a common issue on a lot of boats not just CC and the angled fill most always gets the blame.
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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: January-05-2021 at 8:35am
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Probably not affecting fill rate, but it is a good idea to install the vent hose so it doesn't have a dip in the middle. Tie the middle up so it is the high point. Otherwise it traps gas. ------------- “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: February-16-2021 at 1:00pm
Almost all repaired and made it to FL for some winter skiing!!! ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: February-17-2021 at 8:32am
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So.............have you put gas in the tank yet? Still have flow issues>
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Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: February-17-2021 at 8:56am
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yup, jury is still out... It spit back at me, but may have allowed a slightly better fill rate. No spillage on the steep ramp w/o the valve in place... ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: March-01-2021 at 4:41pm
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Some GREAT Florida skiing in the past 2 weeks. SWFL weather never seems to disappoint! New Platform on and usable despite the builder not following a FULL SIZE template... See my GoogleReview on Custom Marine Teak in St Pete, before ordering anything from them... Unfortunately, I did not see the vendor listed here before I did business with CTM. ....and yes, I fixed the decal!  ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: March-01-2021 at 8:26pm
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One star is good right? Your cap that covers the joint in the rub rail isn't quite perfectly level, and the screw heads aren't all oriented the same, just thought I'd point that out. Had to give you something to fuss over Platform looks OK to me I think it's better than this one |
Posted By: wetskier2000
Date Posted: March-19-2021 at 11:48am
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My wife called that temp platform "The Bookshelf"... Another FL teaser pic.... Don't see too many Nautiques at Cabbage Key!  ------------- Current: 1997 Nautique Previous: 1987 Nautique 1964 American Skier |