How ugly is this?
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Printed Date: November-30-2024 at 12:09pm
Topic: How ugly is this?
Posted By: 69 Mustang
Subject: How ugly is this?
Date Posted: October-10-2006 at 10:31pm
Doing my first teardown/rebuild. Popped the right side cylinder head to find this...
I'm hoping you have seen worse? Thanks. ------------- For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. "Where the **** are we?" Amelia Earhart. July 2, 1937 |
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Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: October-10-2006 at 11:36pm
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no, that is very disgusting, does it turn at all cause if its not freed up I wouldnt bother with that block I would head to the junk yard... seriously wow ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: October-10-2006 at 11:55pm
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that is amazing. Yowsa. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 95 Sport 1978 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: October-10-2006 at 11:58pm
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Those pics are a good reason why I never look in my engine. It would scare me.
Dude: hope you are gettin' along well. Don't it make ya sad to hear all these guys talking about putting their boats away? john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 6:34am
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you couldnt wish for worse, i guess you found a stopping point... eric
------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 8:24am
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The good news is it looks like you can probably salvage that engine mount off the right side.... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 9:39am
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It would make a good anchor. ------------- Tim D |
Posted By: Randy_in_Ohio
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 9:45am
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Damn! That looks bad! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1602&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 1993 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 10:24am
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Looks bad. If the block is not cracked AND you can get the pistons out. Just strip it all the way down, have it boiled out and bored 30 over or so. You need new pistons anyway. ------------- |
Posted By: 69 Mustang
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 5:25pm
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Thanks for the comments...I figured it was toast but I got it to learn how to tear down and rebuild. I am at least getting a tear down lesson.
Lots of good parts (oil pan, fuel pump, carb, intake, etc.) so I think I will go ahead and keep taking it apart. And like David said, I'll try to get the pistons out. If not, does anyone need a good anchor? lol. How much to have a block boiled and bored? Just curious, in case I make it that far. Thanks, Mike ------------- For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. "Where the **** are we?" Amelia Earhart. July 2, 1937 |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 5:55pm
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ball park 350 for all the cleaning and machining ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: October-11-2006 at 11:29pm
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Jbear: yep. This is the time of year I like it here. It's horrible in the summer.
Joe: still one of my favorite videos. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 95 Sport 1978 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: October-12-2006 at 10:08am
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WHY WASTE THE TIME,imho stick a fork in it, this one is done...boat dr
i have a good short block w/heads 775 hrs. replaced with a 331, it needs a new home ,make me an offer, its taking up shop space........located in LA. 302 rev. rotation..... ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: pswann
Date Posted: October-12-2006 at 10:19am
| Im with David, if the water jackets are fine just send it out and it will come back fine. Doesnt look that bad to me. I have seen lots worse and recently. In spring I had a salt water engine with holes from the water jackets freezing. That went to the landfill. I think yours will be fine. The rust doesnt look like it will hold it together. Just knock the pistons out from the bottom and be kind to the rest of the bottom while your taking it apart. |
Posted By: pswann
Date Posted: October-12-2006 at 10:23am
| Wow doc you posted while I posted. If you guys can work out a deal it will much cheaper than reworking that one. I am getting a 350 machined as we speak and it is nickle and diming me to death. Costing me the same to rebuild as its worth. |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: October-12-2006 at 11:54am
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pswann ; lottsa time we are penny wise and dollar foolish,if you really think you can save a little money, think again........that is why i started from scatch w/stroker.new block,crank ,rods and pistons,and i still let someone else build the bottom end. cheap insurance for the soul...........and i did not have that feeling at 2am did i torque #3 rod bolt that final setting????????????? boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: October-13-2006 at 8:45am
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Not worth wrenching nevermind putting money into it. moveon.org.
Get a nice used rollercam engine for cheap beans, they are everywhere. or go new crate engine. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: Rick
Date Posted: October-19-2006 at 1:02am
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Just remember it is Reverse rotation. I ended up with a block that looked like that but add seawater to all cylinders. We scrapped the block went 30 over with new pistons rings rods etc. The good news is blocks don't have a specfic rotation. Had the whole thing balanced. 2K out the door in San Diego. It still runs strong. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=250&yrstart=1996&yrend=2000%20" rel="nofollow - 2000 Ski |
Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: October-19-2006 at 11:48pm
Save the crank,junk the rest..you can tie it to a rope and have a cranker...
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Posted By: 69 Mustang
Date Posted: October-20-2006 at 1:56am
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LOL, Maddmarxx. Does a cranker exert greater down force than a standard anchor? ------------- For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. "Where the **** are we?" Amelia Earhart. July 2, 1937 |
Posted By: TRebhan
Date Posted: October-20-2006 at 3:25pm
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Last spring I put a Jasper remanufactured engine in my '83 SN. I didn't have time for the rebuild. It was quick and easy. A bit more expensive but I wanted to get the boat back on the water as quick as possible.
I don't even think you could get a core deposit on that block! ------------- VT. Nautique |