87 Ski Nautique 425hp?
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Printed Date: January-17-2025 at 2:28pm
Topic: 87 Ski Nautique 425hp?
Posted By: scott8370
Subject: 87 Ski Nautique 425hp?
Date Posted: November-02-2006 at 10:28pm
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Someone claims, they have a 1987 Nautique, with a 454 with 425hp for sale. Was that motor an option? ------------- Scott |
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Posted By: Dominique
Date Posted: November-02-2006 at 11:28pm
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In the factory manual for my 454{330hp} , they list a 425hp engine. Carb, heads and cam are some of the differences. Have not seen one personally. ------------- Dominique "Nobody's Business" |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 12:21am
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That one has been on Boattrader for a while.I e Mailed about pictures about a month ago with no response. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 12:41am
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Hey Terry,
How's your restoration coming along? Anxious to see your pics. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 1:01am
Slow is the word on the 87.Between Baby and Other toys I might find time this winter to finish.Just moved jobs to a Performance type shop.It will be OK to bring the boat in and work on it this winter so I may be the only guy in Wisconsin towing a Nautique in the Snow ! Here is a couple of floor shots before we tore it out.It was broken off of the hull all thru the center.You cannot see the repairs in the Bilge area so I will try to locate those pics as well.
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 10:00am
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Isn't the python 425 hp? Whoever it is is probably confused it with the 454. ------------- |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 10:19am
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Nope, no confusion. I personaly have footed behind 3 different 80's 2001's with the 425 HP engine, all reside on one lake, there are still 2 there.
It was an 'undocumented' option. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 10:44am
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GottaSki, do those HO 454's swing LH props?
All the "standard" 330 horse 454's used RH, correct? ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 11:29am
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all CC's until late use RH props unless they have switched motors/tranies ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 11:45am
Not that I dont believe you Chris, but thats contrary to what Ive heard. Have you seen one of these 425 hp 454's in person? ------------- |
79nautique wrote:Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 12:21pm
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I believe so, a factory original '85 I personally had a timing light on, so I was very aware of the direction of the front pully, CW when viewed from the front.
I suspect PCM said you can have the engine any rotation you want, as long as it STD. Observed one in a stars and stripes Mstercraft powerslot, too. The 2001 has better manners at 50 + mph, but can bite you. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 12:51pm
don't confuse engine rotation with prop rotation. when they went to the 1.23:1 tranny all of the engines also went to std rotation fron reverse rotation. But I'm sure you knew that already there didn't you slick. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 1:10pm
Kinda hard to miss since I have a LH motor and RH prop, friend. ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 1:11pm
That's Mr. Slick to you, Chris!  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 1:30pm
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Ultra, its looking good. Cant wait to see it finished at GL next year.
BTW, I kept looking at the floor seperation pics trying to figure out what the hell was going on. I put the last one right side up and now it makes a lot more sense. 
Not a pretty sight. Water must have been running right down there, soaking the foam and the stringers. How bad did everything look when you took up the floor? ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 1:48pm
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Wow, that's a nasty crack. Did the prior owner warn you about the crack? I would imagine that the boat vibrated like crazy when you took it out.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 4:34pm
i guess your becoming the resident know it all that doesn't know d*ck about any thing, f**king punk a$$ kids these day's what the hell are you going to do to the motor to increase it from a 330hp to 425hp motor???? first thing I'm going to do is reverse the rotation?????? f**king idiot, bullsh*t jack a$$, you f**kin gind the cam differently, mill the heads, increase the compression douce bag you don't create a completely different line to run it down in the factory. Makes a whole lot a since to create new test stands and all the other bullsh*t for a hand full of motors. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 4:44pm
We have a winning post! That one from 79 has the most asterisks & dollar signs of any post around!!  ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 6:26pm
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I just change my signature and then he goes off in this thread, damn! ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 6:27pm
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kev you need to edit them and loose the brackets and word quote anyway
I just try and keep it fresh for you, kinda like you cann't do it missionary style all of the time with the ladies, you have to flip them over and spank that a$$ no and then. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 6:38pm
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Ok I have to remember this thread to come back if I ever get a dry spell of bobchris. ------------- |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 7:19pm
Chris, I am totally with you on that however for me it is flip my hand over so it feels like somebody else is doin it! |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 7:31pm
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Chris you need to get a babysitter once in awhile or find a clean whooore that's cheap. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 7:43pm
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What about a dirty whooore that's expensive?
Oh wait, that is like a starter marriage. Heck, I think I need one of those romance novels that comes in a brown wrapper? |
Posted By: scott8370
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 7:45pm
Hollywood, Perfect timing on the signature change ------------- Scott |
Posted By: Darrel
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 7:59pm
| Theres enuff stuff in this thread alone for everyone on CCF to get a "79" signiture tag line and a cheap clean whooore in change. |
Posted By: scott8370
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 7:59pm
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Hollywood,
I think my new signature, deserves a little air time.That's a good one! ------------- Scott |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 8:27pm
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Hell we all need a life it's friday night and we're typing away... at least Hollywood is out and about. Well hopefully. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-03-2006 at 9:52pm
Is it weird that Im kind of proud to be on the receiving end of that spiel? Chris, PCM didnt supply motors to Correct Craft exclusively. I know there are plenty of older MC's with LH PCM's. I wasnt implying that there was a "special" a$$embly line for the few 425 hp motors. It probably used existing HO automotive heads and cam- which may explain the standard rotation. The fact of the matter (at least from GottaSki's experience) is simply that those motors were LH rotation. ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-04-2006 at 12:37pm
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And if they also used a 1.23:1 tranny? then a LH motor right? You realy don't know how the supplier chain works at all. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-04-2006 at 2:12pm
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Chris I didnt claim to know how the supply chain works- Im not sure how thats relevant. The boats in question were of the 1985 vintage, before the 1.23:1 debuted in 1989. ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-04-2006 at 2:39pm
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The supply chain works like this CC calls and says we need this these and that can you supply it, and they say we can do that for this amount of money and then CC say's ok or goes and finds another supplier, Big cruisers have always had right and and left hand motors on them so getting a 425hp BB in a reverse rotation configuration isn't a f**king issue dumb a$$. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-04-2006 at 4:39pm
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Im not arguing with you Chris. It simply appears that this "unofficial" 425 hp option came in the form of a LH package. Ive never seen one, so I cant say for sure- I just find it interesting.
Your explanation of the CC supply chain is terrific. Do you teach a Supply Chain Management course? ------------- |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: November-04-2006 at 9:20pm
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No the Previous Owner Probably had no clue but the CC Dealer who consigned it should have.There was speaker boards on either side of the hull that covered up the splits.Both sides had them running down them when I pulled the speaker boards out.Called the dealer and got no where with them.Sad as they are one of the largest volume CC dealers in the U.S. I am told.The stringers were perfect under all of that cracking.I have the floor up right now and am waiting to pour new foam.I am changing all the lines and hoses underneath just because.2 Batteries will be up front instead of 1 as well as a lot of other little additions.Hopefully my project will see the water by next summer. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: November-04-2006 at 11:11pm
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Some of us might want to sign up for that course. What is the highest HP that ever came stock on a CC? ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 95 Sport 1978 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-04-2006 at 11:15pm
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Time to get back on your meds, Chris. You benn kinda mellow lately. You still down south?
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: November-05-2006 at 1:11am
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WOW!!!! i never knew this was such an emotional topic for 79... note to self, dont bring anything of this nature up in another topic hahaha
Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-05-2006 at 8:55am
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ultra don't forget to make an area for a cooler and/or some storage. sure would be nice to have a couple custom features to free up some space on an otherwise tight situation. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 3:18pm
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79; glad to see you have come out of hibernation,most bears are angry and hungry after their nap.two valiums and a Whopper should put you in a better frame of mind.anyone that has been on this site long has seen both sides of 79 the good the bad and the ugly.............glad your back 79 where you been?????????
boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 4:13pm
Maybe Craig from NECC can answer some 454 engine questions. He did install them in the 80's Nautiques. I'll see if I can get his response on the matter. This above quote was from a while ago. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 4:26pm
Chris, how do you really feel about this matter? Are you really this emotional about boats and engines? Tim's a smart guy and he didn't get out of line with you. Deep down, Chris, I know you're probably a kind and sweet gentleman. Chris, you seem like a very smart guy, your delivery just sucks big time. No need to get out of sorts, my friend, we're all on the same team here. I will soften you up, Chris! Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 5:15pm
| 79 may have just had a little of the "white lightnin" before writing that one out. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 5:15pm
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just normal tone of voice I prefer to use discriptive words for slower fokes that really don't know but tell everyone they do anyway. It's the built-in dump a$$ alert I have aquired over the years. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 5:35pm
Chris, I'm sure when we meet next summer, I'll have a better understanding. Everyone has their own style of communication. I know you're going to like Tim, TBenj. He'll be at GL next summer. I know he can speak for himself, but I couldn't sit back an see him get dumped on without expressing myself. Smile, Chris  ....be happy!
Is there a Mrs. Broshar? Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 5:52pm
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In contrast its more interesting to watch 79 break tree ornaments on CindyLou Who's head then offer to install her longblock. Observing a heart grow three sizes weekly is more entertaining.
Fah who foraze! ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: NECC
Date Posted: November-06-2006 at 9:38pm
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The PCM 454HO 425 HP engine was LH Rotation (Standard Rotation)
The PCM 454 350 HP engine was RH Rotation or (Reverse Rotation). To my knowledge I dont know of the 454 LH 425 HP engine being offered in 1987.....At least I never saw one with that engine in 1987. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 9:15am
Chris, in light of the info that NECC provided, who would you say fits this description? ------------- |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 9:23am
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Summit has this GM Goodwrench HO 454 crate that is very similar in description, for under $5500 i think.
Iron heads, rectangle ports, 425 HP at 5250 rpm, forged crank and pistons. Likely roller cam nowadays. Good HP/$ ratio. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 9:38am
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TRB; i have a bird dog, very good bird dog,each time you let him out of the kennel he has to pee on every bush,tree and fence pole in the yard.I think he is marking his territory,that way he "thinks" he is the Alpha Male.Perhaps a traumatic event in early puppyhood,or some gene thing.Does this sound like someone we know,just let him pee.Advice is like farting,some just do it without being offensive,some do it to be heard......... boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 9:55am
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Thanks for the input, Craig! Problem solved.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 11:52am
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Actually I didn't give a sh*t which way it turned and couldn't understand why the kid was making an issue out of it and if your too slow to figure out when you chain is being yanked then you better be ready for the extra bullsh*t thrown on top after your roped in dump a$$. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:05pm
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BS ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 12:51pm
Let's go to a Happy place!!!!!
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 1:03pm
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Hollywood,
Here's something to add to the marriage quote: http://www.gotwavs.com/0085934086/MP3S/Movies/Old_School/congatulations.mp3 - Old School lower the volume if you're at work. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 6:31pm
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ah the wedding crashers that was a funny movie. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: November-07-2006 at 9:53pm
For a minute there Ken,I was wondering how you snuck into my yard and snapped that picture.Then it dawned on me....That can't be my yard,I don't have a sprinkler
Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-09-2006 at 1:31pm
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Yes, Mike, babe with the Coors Light....plus the 05 210, life is great! I was looking for you in the background of the above picture.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: November-10-2006 at 12:01am
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Ken that's a really funny scene from one of the best all time movies. I'm just glad you didn't post the one of the midget on the trike with the Gene Simmons mask kissing Grandma.
...now you're probably going to, aren't you. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 95 Sport 1978 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: November-10-2006 at 12:07am
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Dude: Don't encourage him, he has become the king of the picture posters.
Keep 'em coming Ken! john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: November-10-2006 at 12:44am
NICE JUGS
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Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-10-2006 at 10:38am
 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-10-2006 at 10:45am
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This clip has always cracked me up:
http://www.gotwavs.com/0085934086/MP3S/Movies/Spies_Like_Us/broke_it.mp3 - Spies Like Us ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: November-10-2006 at 10:56am
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Another good one:
http://www.gotwavs.com/0085934086/MP3S/Movies/Naked_Gun/way2die.mp3 - Clip ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: November-10-2006 at 5:22pm
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I knew I could count on you. lol ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 95 Sport 1978 Ski Nautique |