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1989 351W Engine Knock

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Printed Date: September-21-2024 at 10:54am


Topic: 1989 351W Engine Knock
Posted By: Greg_SA
Subject: 1989 351W Engine Knock
Date Posted: September-14-2024 at 6:44am
Hi Guys,

Its been a long time, but my engine/boat problems aren't over Unhappy

My previous thread where I replaced the engine is here:

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51037&PN=3&title=1989-sn-water-in-oil-wet-plug" rel="nofollow - https://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51037&PN=3&title=1989-sn-water-in-oil-wet-plug

Since fitting the "new/used" engine and getting it running last year, I only used the boat for 3 days and everything was great.

Then a week later (still in December 2023) the boat was running great, but then while cruising for about 10 minutes at ~2500 rpm I heard a knocking sound.

It was a deep knocking sound, at a rate of about 2 knocks per second. I slowed the boat down, and it idled fine, and the knock slowed down to about 1 knock per second. I sounded like it was coming from the back of the engine (transmission side) but it is hard to be sure as the cover was closed.

I shut the boat down, but couldn't see anything wrong. I tried to restart, but it puffed and spluttered and would not start. So I towed the boat in. I am not sure if the starting problem is directly related or maybe it was totally heat soaked?

I have been so busy this year that I haven't had much time to diagnose.
- Plugs look fine
- Oil looks good - no metal shavings

I have pulled all the plugs, disconnect ignition and raw water pump, and cranked the engine. It turns over smoothly, no noises.

I then did a compression test, and all cylinders were around 140 psi, but what was strange is than during the compression test of cylinder 4, it made a puffing sound (almost like a backfire) at the intake area. None of the other cylinders did that.

Any suggestions or ideas?

Thanks,
Greg

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1989 Ski Nautique (SN2001)



Replies:
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: September-14-2024 at 7:15pm
it's coming from the rear, #4 cylinder is in the rear and it did funny things.

As a starting point, maybe pull the valve cover off and look at the rocker arms and springs for #4 especially the intake because of your description.



Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: September-15-2024 at 3:37am

leak down test on number 4. and maybe the rest. i had one do that a number of years ago. turned out exhaust valve stem retainer was not installed correctly and it dropped the valve on top of the piston.


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1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0


Posted By: Greg_SA
Date Posted: September-21-2024 at 6:25am
Managed to remove the valve cover, and this is what I found. No. 4 exhaust rocket bolt has sheared off.

https://ibb.co/LZRt06Y" rel="nofollow">

- Is it possible to pull the stud and replace without removing the head?
- I believe the studs are press fit?
- Could this have caused the knock sound? I would expect a tick not knock?

I saw a video of someone that tapped the broken thread on the stud a bit longer and use a nut and washers to extract it. Fitting a new one would probably require a press? Or tap the hole and use a threaded stud to replace?

I do have my previous engine's heads as spares, but it is a bit different (newer style with bolt down rocket gear). I assume mixing different heads is a bad idea? These are the spares I have.

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1989 Ski Nautique (SN2001)



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