Senator John Kerry
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Printed Date: December-22-2024 at 5:02pm
Topic: Senator John Kerry
Posted By: Waterdog
Subject: Senator John Kerry
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 7:46am
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Senator Kerry Nov. 1, 2006 Damn you. You are a bumbling idiot. My son, Cory, left the Computer Engineering Program at West Virginia University, a superlative educational institution, to volunteer to serve in the United States Marine Corps. He made it to Recon in less than one year, completing over a dozen schools, finishing with top scores in every single one of them. Cory, along with every Recon Marine, was/is a brilliant young man. They all volunteered - there is no draft as there was when you were in the Armed Forces. Cory, along with 3 other Recon Marines, died as the result of an IED explosion in May, 2006. These men, along with their peers, are superior in intellect. How dare you dishonor them by your careless words. You are a stupid, self-absorbed fool. I am not speaking as a member of any political party - in fact, I support more democrats at this juncture than republicans. But I loathe the disdain you display for my son and those whose magnificent service was given for something they held so dear to their hearts - freedom. I pray that your political future is doomed. You are a detriment to every democrat with whom you a$$ociate. If in deed, your words were, as you say, intended as a joke, then you are heartless. My son's life is certainly more than a joke. He and these almost 3,000 young men and women who have died with him, are much more valued and loved than to be used as pawns in your own petty political pundits. You were not misunderstood. You were clearly heard and understood by us all. You were on national television. You are utterly disrespectful of our sons and of us, their families. I will work tirelessly to bring you down. You discredit every member of the Armed Forces. Not only are these troops more savvy than ever before in history, so are their commanding officers, many of whom have advanced educational degrees. You, John Kerry, are nothing but scum. Spare us from the further desecration of our troops and the superlative military minds that truly do serve our nation. Remove yourself from the limelight and step down from office, NOW. VERY sincerely, Mrs. Danna Swain Palmer, Proud Mom of Fallen Marine, Cpl. Cory Leonard Palmer, USMC, Recon May 10, 1984 - May 6 - 2006 West Virginia University, School of Computer Engineering 2006, Voluntarily withdrew with excellent grades to serve in the United States MarineCorps, Dec. 13, 2002. CC: The Honorable Senator Robert Byrd, West Virginia The Honorable Joseph Biden, Delaware The Honorable Thomas Carper, Delaware The Honorable Congressman Mike Castle, Delaware Commandant Michael Hagee, USMC Commandant Charles Krulak, USMC, Ret. West Virginia University, President |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 6:38pm
are you on the correct webite?......this is correctcraftfan.com not iraqwarfan.com..........all things aside, im sorry to hear about the loss........but didnt you say he "volunteered".....do you really thinks its john keerys fault in all seriousness?.....thanks george w bush and his republican partners..
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Posted By: Tate
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 7:10pm
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Whether you agree w/ the war in Iraq or not is not the issue. The fact that Senator Kerry would stoop to say that if you don't got to school and work hard then you go to Iraq demeans all of the service men and women who lay their life on the line for us regardless of the venue. If Senator Kerry agreed w/ the war then he would definately not have said such a thing but his contempt for our "lowly,lowly" soldiers would still have been the same. Right on Waterdog! ------------- Tate |
Posted By: 1987SN2001
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 7:11pm
In two tours in Iraq I have had four armored HMMWV's blown out from under me from IED's, my heavily armored BFV burned to the ground after a homicide bomber blew himself up next to me, I have picked up pieces of my good friends...my comrades and I have experienced terrible things, many parents, spouses, and children have suffered the loss of loved ones. This is not iraqwarfan.com. I dont' blame Kerry. I didn't appreciate his comments, but I really don't care what he or you think about who a soldier really is and why he soldiers. I certainly don't blame President Bush. The real enemy are those bastards out there killing Americans. Right now they are satisfied with doing it in Iraq. You should pray they don't come to America. |
ryanandrews wrote:Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 7:27pm
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Ryan Andrews, your a frickin idiot!!!!
Come on out to Chicago sometime, I would love to take you skiing, the anchor line would be perfect for you!! Bet that Hillary sign looks great in your front yard, Moron!! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 8:04pm
quinner- your typical computer badda$$..you would love to take me skking(thanks), but after your comments id love to beat your a$$!all bullsh*t aside...a typical loudmouth on the internet...yes to all im a democrat..ok whats your point quinner?...im not here to discuss dems. vs. repb....im sure in your eyes all democrats are morons quinner...this is america and we all are entitled to our own opinions.......maybe sometime this summer we can meet up, maybe say at the cedra point reunion.......afterwards ill take you wakeboarding or barefootin on my lake......only 1/2 hr south and its private!
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Posted By: Poster112
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 8:08pm
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Kerry is a pompous @ss, anyway, no matter which way you lean politically.
Nice post, though, Waterdog. Some of these folks do not realize who the real enemy is and that they will kill any one of us, our wives or our kids. Some choose to stick there heads in the sand and quote bumper stickers. Thanks to you, 87SN2001, and to all that serve and fight the real threat. ------------- I'd rather have a bottle-in-front-of-me than a frontal-lobotomy. http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3182&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1925&yrend=2009" rel="nofollow - 1985 Ski 1984 SW |
Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 8:11pm
Fortunately for you our brave service men and women are willing to risk their lives so everyone can express their opinions. ------------- Bill http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project |
Posted By: Shortline
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 8:20pm
You have your own private lake? Too bad you don't keep your opinions private as well. Mrs. Palmer suffered the loss of her son; a brave fighting man who was defending your freedom. Shame on you.  ------------- It wouldn't be that hard if the balls weren't so far apart and the boat wasn't going so damn fast! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 8:20pm
Fortunately for you our brave service men and women are willing to risk their lives so everyone can express their opinions..........and i never said i dont thank them for their services and duties......i respect them for what they do...but again it is a choice.
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Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 10:11pm
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RA please stop talking, im not trying to be an a$$, but youre digging yourself quite a hole with every posting in this topic.
The comment Kerry made was completely moronic, and as waterdog said in his, i hope/believe he doomed his political career with that comment, because we really don't need someone like that in our government. IMHO, Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 10:34pm
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I never thought highly of Kerry, and the more I learn the more I dislike Bush. That aside... I am sorry to hear of your loss, it is very sad. I have 3 close friends overseas, 2 in Afghanistan and 1 in Iraq, one who sadly had to come home on emergency leave because his father pa$$ed.
Someone once told me it is impossible to support our troops, but not support the war, at the same time... I do not know what to say to this... Obviously, everyone fighting is brave and courageous, but everyone has a different story. This one friend who had to come home hates it there, can't wait for his contract to expire. Others, however, are proud of what they do. We here sitting on our safe a$$es at home on computers cannot speak generally about the people fighting there as a whole, imho.. What Kerry said is poor, but Bush is still the guy who sent 'em there. I still do not know exactly WHAT we're fighting for... kinda like when I intervewed a Vietnam War veteran who still has a bullet in his back, he said they're there, but, "What are we fighting for?" (I dont want to here "freedom" or "safety" as an answer b/c that is overused and not totally true... polls say that more people now feel more unsafe today than they did 5 years ago...) Maybe its just my town... ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: 1987SN2001
Date Posted: November-30-2006 at 11:50pm
You may never understand. What is important is that American fighting men are in harms way in Iraq. These men and their families need the support of their country. What is freedom, peace, or security? You are enjoying all three right now, whether you understand or not. On 9/11 why did the pa$$engers on that last aircraft attack their hijackers when they must have known with great certainty that they would die? I suspect they understood. |
Posted By: The Dude
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 12:08am
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OK, I'm going to put myself out there for you guys to stomp on...
1. This is the kind of post I wish was never on our boat message board. Why am I contributing to it? 2. There really isn't freedom of speech. John Kerry, Michael Richards, and ryanandrews are the most recent proofs. Perhaps Kerry and Richards are idiots, but the point is you can'tit just say anything you want. Ask Jimmy the Greek, Howard Cosell, Steve Lyons... 3. We're all very sad about the loss of life in Iraq. We're sorry about our men and women who have died and we're sorry about the Iraqis (and others) who have died. War is tragic and horrible. None of us want it. 4. It would have been cheaper to give every person in Iraq $1 million than it has been to prosecute this war thus far. According to the http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Funding-Iraq.html - NY Times this week, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is costing tax payers in the US about $320,000 per day. This information doesn't make the war right or wrong, but it's pretty interesting...just thought I'd throw it in there. 5. I'm impressed with people who take upon themselves goals like bringing down bad politicians. I think it's crucial to vote bad politicians out of office and good ones in. I also hope that people with such goals can experience the kind of freedom and joy that comes when you can truly forgive those who have wronged you and your loved ones (and perhaps thousands of others). Justice needs to be served, but I always hope that those pursuing justice can also do it with free hearts so that justice is the end and not revenge. When revenge is a motive instead of justice it tends to disintegrate the person who is seeking it as much as the person who is the object of the vengeance. Forgiveness doesn't mean a neglect of justice. But it means a release of the ideas of revenge and vengeance. Freedom and joy result when the pursuit of justice is free from the desire for vengeance. ------------- Mullet Free since 93 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=717&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1991&yrend=1995" rel="nofollow - 95 Sport 1978 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 12:13am
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I understand what you are saying, but what the people did on that last flight and the war now are two totally different things. It is obvious what the people on the flight did and their reasoning. However, I do not see how killing and losing 3,000 american lives is making is possible for me to be "free" now. If anything, like I said before, most people (including me) feel LESS safe now than before, or w/o a war.
If you (not YOU 872001, the general "you") cannot give me a real hard answer as to WHY we're fighting, than there is no hard real reason. aka... no reason... if we cannot answer why the hell we're there, why should we be there.... how is the killing of people over there defending my freedom, literally? You're all gonna hate me for this, but here's what I honestly feel.. For some reason, I cannot help but think that Bush has some other motive for the war, some other economic motive.... (Now you'll all REALLY hate me) Under Clinton, the country had a surplus--we were exporting more than importing, there was NO deficit. Wars are good for economies, and Bush glotes that the economy is booming now, but what he does not tell you is that due to the war, the country is in its largest debt ever of $8.3 trillion. Also, the deficit is higher than ever, approx. $300 billion (if i'm correct). We pay more for military than all other nations combined... and for what? (Yes, the men and women out there are brave souls who are risking their lives for us) But WHY? That is the key question... imho.. Bush is the ONLY president who's lowered taxes in a time of war--something that was never heard of before. Taxes have alway's been raised for wars.... Meanwhile, he now wants to take our Social Security money and invest it in the stock market, great.. If the market goes up, great, but if it doesnt, sorry! How many people actually know what they're doing investing in the stock market? Do the senior citizens that need that money know? I would think not... Bottom line... I just dont get it.. i dont get the war... you may say "You dont need to get it" or "you may never understand" or "you dont need to understand," but frankly i find these all bullsh*t answers... because these are questions that need to be answered to have a justified war... And finally, not to offend anybody, I DO NOT agree w/ what Kerry said about the troops, in no way to I think they do not deserve the upmost respect--I know 3 of them... 2 almost died... Fire away... ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: scott8370
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 8:16am
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The first thing I did after reading your post, was to look at your profile and see when you were born....Just as I thought! ------------- Scott |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 8:33am
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Austin,
I don't know that there is a simple answer to your question and it sounds like you pretty much have your mind made up anyways. Agree or disagree with the decisions of our administration I support the men and women who are defending those decisions and all that our country represents. |
Posted By: 1987SN2001
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 10:33am
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I love to waterski. So do my kids. My wife, not so much (not sure what happened there?). I also like working on my boat and building things. I have the freedom to do those things because of good people who fight for that freedom.
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 10:51am
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Man do I want to get in on this one. ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 11:06am
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scott8370
I posted this letter to keep OUR military in our thoughts. My profile - born democrat , military service changed my thinking - turned republican - rethought the whole thing ,now independent. I am Vietnam Vet. 27 years DoD , I work in a composite & polymers lab aboard a USMC Air Station . When the Marines at the gate check my ID I always stop , look them in the eye and say good morning . We lost 3 Marines from Camp Lajune yesterday in Iraq. I’m not a politician , don’t want to be. I see in black and white , no gray , just like my Dad , it’s right or it’s wrong. I’m glad this thread inspired thought. So – Vote it’s not your right - it’s your obligation . I pray we can get out of this quagmire in the mid-east soon and our military men and women do not die in vain. |
Posted By: scott8370
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 12:28pm
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Waterdog
I was a little bugged, when I posted. I didn't insert a name at the beginning of my thought like I should have...That was addressed to Austin. Sorry about that. Scott ------------- Scott |
Posted By: PLBC
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 3:27pm
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Austin, just exactly what makes YOU (specifically) feel unsafe? Most of us know your situation so this I absolutely have to know, then I can totally dismiss your post instead of just mostly.
No matter what the reason, Americans are still over there fighting, and need support and thanks. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5164&sort=&pagenum=1" rel="nofollow - 99 |
Posted By: copcraft
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 3:28pm
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I love this site not only because I am really getting into this damn '74 CC Mustang I'm redoing in the garage, but because I love hearing your opinions on everything you can imagine. I'm a police Lt. in Illinois and I am, as it sounds all of you are, thankful there are men and women who are willing to volunteer their services so the unwilling don't have to. God Bless them for being over there! I wish I were younger so I could go. I've had the honor to attend many cla$$es on terrorism taught by special forces men who have commanded troops there. The common belief is the military is taking the fight to the enemy in a manner over seas to a point that the enemy, for the most part cannot put together a vast effort here, on American soil. They have tried since 911 and thanks to their stupidity, and America's increased intelligence, they have failed. I simply think about how I felt after 911. For a month everyone was gung ho! Now we're talking cost? It is always unfortunate when there is death, especially to our servicemen and women. The men and women I talk with who have been there believe in the mission and understand the sacrifice. I hope we would all agree we can't give up the fight and have them over here. Think of how two clowns, in one car, with one adequate rifle shut down the east coast in Rockville Md. My younger brother was PD there during that and the fear throughout the commuity was rampant. I fear what would happen if they had four of five cars, eight or ten men, in five parts of the country. Gas stations today, K-marts tomorrow, McDonalds the next day. It would cripple the country. Thank God they are fighting in their country and not ours.
Just my .02. No one's totally right or wrong, thank God we can all believe what we wish. |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 3:51pm
I'm obviously the minority here, so I do not expect to change any of your minds or have mine changed... Knowing this shows that I really am talking just for good conversation, and just interested in knowing what your response and arguments would be against mine.. that all... You can go ahead and dismiss my post I really dont care I'm pretty used to it from you guys... Yes most of you "know my situation" in that i'm a democrat from nyc, pretty much = jew... aka almost exact opposite from most of you guys (i'd expect..) major uphill battle for me... When I get up and walk to school I do not fear a plane flying over my head or a bum waking up with a gun--I do not feel insecure or not safe on a small level. What I was referring to was a poll taken, one that I didnt partake in, which really referred to "safety" on a greater scale, as in the stopped threat in London. I am pretty sure it is THOSE types of things that people fear more now than they did before the war... Does that answer your question? So individually, I was never afraid nor do I feel unsafe now, but people in general (at least around me) do not feel as secure as they used to since bush woke up and went to war... ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 3:54pm
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by the way.. every day i have political & economic discussions, 2 of my good (jewish) friends, probably the most jewish, are republicans. I say this just so you guys know that I have looked at, heard, and talked in depth regarding both "sides of the story..." ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 4:03pm
Are you still talking? ------------- Bill http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project |
Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 4:14pm
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Wow.....I thought I was doing pretty well to buy a Nautique of my own when I was 24......"I own a Nautique, therefore I am" is only 17. Pretty impressive! I guess I should have started working and saving earlier.
Rob ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7744" rel="nofollow - 2006 Ski 206 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1123" rel="nofollow - 97 SNOB |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 4:22pm
yeah i like the sig. but it'd definitely not HIS boat... it probably should be 'my dad owns a nautique..." No offense intended but you get the idea... Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 4:22pm
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I don't think I've had one convo on this site where someone hasn't commented on my sig.. lol.. its a freakin joke on Descartes, a compliment to CC also...
I told you guys, I do not expect to change your minds nor do I want to fight with you.. I was just saying my opinion, and trust me I'm not alone. I might agree with myself, but at least I am open to and respect other's opinions/ideas, and I also understand where they're coming from... unlike some (thats you skibum...) The only thing that gets to me is that so many of you are so against other ways of thinking... so you disagree with me, big deal, but at least respect it... freedom of speech... fire away.. again..  ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 4:27pm
I wasn't knocking it at all, I think it's cool, just a little misleading. Maybe that's why you catch a lot of flack on it. Just my .02 Rob ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7744" rel="nofollow - 2006 Ski 206 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1123" rel="nofollow - 97 SNOB |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 4:32pm
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Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 4:34pm
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I see... but I would think it is obvious that I personally did not sign the check... I also never think of the boat belonging to one person, not even my dad.. its simply the family's like the house... i live in my house, not my dads... I think I get a lotta crap for it b/c people take it too seriously and literally and cant take a kid (god forbid) owning something expensive... who cares what I say, we all know that dad signed the check, and its the family's...
What I would like to hear, honestly, is not a question wheather i'm still talking or having a post dismissed, I would like some mature person to take me seriously, above 17, and give me a REAL response of your argument.. c'mon, convince me... prove me wrong.. I want some real facts and opinions... being wrong on this site is old news, now show me why... (not pissed, just really would like to have a good argument/discussion, as of now., i have given the facts and honest opinion i think..) ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 5:22pm
Do not confuse the budget deficit with the National Debt. During Clinton's administration the National Debt rose from $4Trillion to $6Trillion. In fact, the national debt has risen every year since 1930, whether at war or not. Clinton did implement policies and legislation to reduce both the debt and the deficit. He even went against his own party to do so. However, his debt reduction was obviously ineffective (50% debt increase during his reign), and his budget surplus had more to do with windfalls from dot com wealth than from any policy implemented during his administration. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: SkiBum
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 5:50pm
Pretty much says it all. ------------- Bill http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks - http://www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks www.freewebs.com/billsboatworks 1987 SN Rebuild Project |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 6:13pm
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BKH, not confusing the two, sorry if it sounded like I was... The easy argument against the debt of today is pretty much what you said--we've been in debt, its kept rising, its never really mattered, we keep borrowing, its insignificant... To some extent, I agree, but it has risen most dramatically due to Bush's record breaking budget defecit of around $300 million... eventually, we (not you, but me, my kids, grandkids, etc..) will have to pay it off (prob to china)... I am also not impressed that under Bush, 6 million more people are now BELOW the poverty line, while Clinton made 5 million become above it... Why taxes are so low and not as progressive as they should be, I do not know... ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 6:44pm
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The debt rose 50% under Clinton. So far it has risen 35% under Bush, but he still has the benefit of 2 years to run it up. What Bush has not had is the windfall of a once in a lifetime economic event - the dot com boom.
Your age is not relevant to your views on Bush, Clinton, our economy, etc. Right or wrong, many people of all ages share your views. Go to college - pick one with a lot of smart people, and a diversity of students socio-economically, racially, and from different nations. Enjoy the debate that goes on there. However, I'll bet you $10 that 10 years from now, when you actually pay taxes, your views will be different. You may still lean as you do now, but you will think differently than you do now. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: todicus
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 6:54pm
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AbunDiga,
You seem like a very intelligent young man, and have very good writing/communication skills. I may not agree whith what you say, but at least you have an opinion and are ready to talk about it in a friendly and rational manner. I wish you the best in your future and keep pressing for the truth and a positive change in our leadership and govermnent. Most of us on this site have already been down the road you are about to travel, so we tend to not put up with much because we have been through it all before. I bet in 25 years you will not be saying the same things you are now, and that will come from your life experiences and dissapointments with polititians as a whole. My take is that it's not about being blue or red politically, it's about the individual person who is doing the speaking. Kerry frickin' blew it with his comments......... end of story. As for all the Bush bashing, any President in this day and age is going to get ripped on..... just way too much going on to not be the target of ridicule. As for Clinton, he was just shameful. As for the war, support our troops and give them the utmost respect and resorces to keep the fight on their turf, not ours. Post some pictures of your family boat in the Diaries section when you get a chance !! ------------- Living outside the wake http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1525 - 95GT-40SNOB |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 7:08pm
Can't wait to pay taxes..woo hoo..  I do have to trust you in that my ideas will change, to some extent. I doubt my ideas will reverse once I start paying taxes or go to college, but I do anticipate some chances. For a while I've hated politics, but now that I cant get around it, I have to accept it and find myself trying to get into an AP Gov cla$$...? I know it probably sounded like I thought Clinton was the hero of all heros, thats not that case at all. (this will sound stupid) I was REALLY to young to talk when he was pres...
bkh, thanks for that fact, I wasnt aware of how much exactly Bush vs Clinton affected the federal debt, I just a$$umed by putting two and two together... And lastly, I cannot agree more that in a country divided virtually 50/50, any pres can, and will, be bashed... ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 7:15pm
This is why people dismiss your posts. Please just put the shovel down and stand on the sidelines, maybe you'll learn something.
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Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 7:50pm
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Hollywood.. what are you saying, if you really understood my post and didn't dismiss it so quickly, you'd have understood that those two quotes do not relate to each other in purpose. The first one is me being honest about why I'm talking in the first place (for conversational purposes, not to convince anyone), and the second one is just asking for a real answer, with real, hard, true numbers, (b/c as of then I had none. an example would be what bkh wrote in return) I thought I was being fair by asking to be proved wrong. You must distinguish between being proved wrong and haveing ones mind changed, they are very different. I was giving you guys a free shot to convince/teach/prove to me something, and nobody took it... why can't someone just give me some reasons why you think what you think? I'm interested... enlighten me.. (this is what the second quote also meant...) I think it is wise to know what the "enemy" is thinking.. (PLEASE dont take that literally! hence the quotes.. its just a phrase)
The two are not related, I would have thought a smart guy like you would have picked up on that. I know they're not related b/c I wrote them... and I think its damn clear I'm here to learn something.. are you? ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 8:07pm
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I'm hear to talk about boats and see some t*ts occasionally. ------------- |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 8:34pm
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I hear ya... this is definately an off-topic discussion.. but if you're in, you're in.. not in only when you wanna be... ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 9:04pm
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Austin, if I may there is a question for you.
This is not the first thread that you have made mention of the fact you are Jewish, why is that relevant particularly in this discussion? Regarding your signature, I love CC's as most here however don't you think that could be percieved as a bit pompous regardless of who's boat it is? |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 9:16pm
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Hey quinner shouldn't you be pounding some 14 yr. olds in the corner right about now? ------------- |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 9:19pm
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Well, just wrote a response and hit the back button my mistake, so now its all gone..
The jew comment was only in response to hollywood's about "my situation." I was just clarifying "my situation" for everyone who didnt know, and I thought that (a) NYC resident, (b) democrat, and (c) jew, were hollywood's criteria that made up "my situation." Thats the only reason why, not to make a statement or anything... I dont even consider myself a good jew, its really a joke... 99% of my jewish comments have some humor hidden underneath... The signiture really shouldnt' sound pompous b/c we (should) all know that it is based off of a very famous quote, I think, therefore I am. If that quote didn't exist, sure, it could sound arrogant. But since it DOES, we know that I didn't think like this from scratch, and it is merely a play on words, a pun even. Thus, it shouldn't be taken literally. Anyway, I only meant it as a compliment to correct craft.. BTW, has anyone seen Borat? one of the funniest "movie-films" i've ever seen.. ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 9:34pm
What are you talking about? I don't recall saying anything along those lines. When I was 17 on a friday night I sure as hell wasn't debating politics on a internet forum, I was trying to get my girlfriend naked, maybe you should try it! ------------- |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 9:42pm
My mistake, PLBC said it... Here in "the" city the night ends after 9 or 10 o clock... i've leaving now actually... ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 10:28pm
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Perhaps "I Nautique, therefore I am" would produce the same play on Descartes words, without the same edge. Just a thought. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: December-01-2006 at 10:33pm
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Diga,
You seem to be always clarifying your situation.Humor intended or not,IMHO it's not needed.Frankly,I don't think that anyone here doesn't know anyway.You're jewish-great.Move along.You seemed like a pretty good kid to me when we met,& I'm impressed at your age that you even know what the national deficit is,but Hollywood's right-Go have some fun.That sh*t will come later on in life. Personally,I don't care if the boat is "yours" or your "dads".The fact that your family has it to enjoy is all that matters. As you get older,all this stuff will make more sense.We all owe guys like 87SN2001 more than we could ever give in return. If anyone doesn't understand what these guys go through,visit the Vietnam Wall on Memorial Day.Seeing grown men in their 50's and 60's that can still bench press 400 lbs fall to their knees and cry is an experience that will change you forever. BTW,John Kerry has been an a$$ his whole life,that comment just made everyone realize it. Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: December-02-2006 at 8:34am
Hey Freakshow, I get more than one? Where's the corner, I thought you were supposed to get them at one of the ends? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December-02-2006 at 9:34am
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AbunDiga909 wrote:
The jew comment was only in response to hollywood's about "my situation." What are you talking about? I don't recall saying anything along those lines. When I was 17 on a friday night I sure as hell wasn't debating politics on a internet forum, I was trying to get my girlfriend naked, maybe you should try it!.......... WELL SAID HOLLYWOOD....... dont forget to get a bag of gra$$ and some booze also!
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-02-2006 at 1:09pm
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Are you Jewish or are you an American, because the Jew-black thing is getting real old, I dont care where or what happened to my ancestor's, when the smoke clears Im still an American... Im not a racist but im reminded everyday in some way of how easy it would be to become one and why. This is and will always be the greatest nation on this earth and I will never question why and how come it is that way, people will kill or will be killed trying to come to this country.
If you ever have the oppertunity to travel to another country your outlook would change drastically because of the way other people live and how they look at you with envy because they know where you are from and they would do anything to switch lives with you enough said, lets talk about boats......why? because we can ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: December-02-2006 at 4:58pm
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I respect EVERYONE that has taken part in this thread because to me it simply demonstrates the utmost proof of who we are as a people, a country, and of one fantastic, however fallible at times, form of government, which includes two absolutely necessary parties. If we didn't have the ability to openly discuss, to disagree, and even to demonish, we certainly wouldn't be Americans. And I include several of our allied foreign friends in this team as well, who hopefully feel the same about their homelands. ------------- ReidP /diaries/details.asp?ID=231&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - 1973 Mustang |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-03-2006 at 9:13pm
eric, i have no idea what the hell you're talking about here.. jewish and american btw... black? ancestors? when did those come up.. i meant to refer to those in NO way at all... whatever.. i'll let it die now... ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: December-03-2006 at 9:14pm
Eric, I have no clue what the hell you're talking about? jewish or american? both... black? ancestors? when did those come up? I didnt mean to refer to those in any way at all... whatever.. i'll let it die now... good convo..i learned a lot ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-04-2006 at 9:40am
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I apoligize, anytime you you see Jewish and minority in the same conversation you a$$ume... i went back thru and read it again. Its just lately on the other side of the coin it feels like i or we as American citizens have lost the freedom of speech, I guess i'm just getting irritated all the time with the race thing and we are reminded all the time of it. everyone has ghosts in the closet and when its thrown in your face all of the time it gets old.. thats what i meant ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: December-04-2006 at 9:51pm
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Man I love this site.
When I was 17, I too spent my time like Hollywood. Didn't hurt me none and hasn't hurt Hollywood. Plenty enough time to grow up. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: December-05-2006 at 10:41am
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Jbear, still try to spend my time like I am 17 unless of course hangin with the PLBC boy's, then of course I act my age so as to set a fine example for the young fellas.
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-05-2006 at 10:55am
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I know what was going thru my mind every 30 or so seconds when i was 17 i didnt have time to think about anything else ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-05-2006 at 11:39am
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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: December-05-2006 at 11:56am
No, Ken....eric was talking about gears and transmissions....I'm quite sure that's what he was referring to. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?†“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.†|
Posted By: NAUTI84
Date Posted: December-05-2006 at 12:33pm
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I'm a little lost here guys .
What's going thru my mind every 30 or so seconds, is no different now than when I was 17 ?? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=421&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985 - EX-NAUTI84 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-05-2006 at 4:04pm
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LOL, Larry . You can clearly see I haven't changed since I was 17. I don't know crap about politics. I'll stick to boats and women.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 7:39am
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I was thinking more on the lines of shafts and housings..... ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |