Buick GNX - Mean Machine
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Printed Date: December-22-2024 at 4:24pm
Topic: Buick GNX - Mean Machine
Posted By: Nautique2001
Subject: Buick GNX - Mean Machine
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 12:18pm
Growing up, I was a big time car fan. I grew up in the mid 80's when Trans Am, Camaro, Mustang, Olds 442 and Firebirds were dominate. I always had a pa$$ion for the Buick Grand National and GNX. What a bad a$$ car that was and still is. It's amazing how a 3.8, V6 turbo can launch a full size car 0-60 in 4.7 seconds (Car and Driver). I absolutely love the sound they make at idle and when the turbo spools up. Has anyone owned or own one of these mean machines?
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
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Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 12:23pm
Gee, I thought Camaros and Olds 442 were dominant in the late 60s and early 70s BKH------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 12:40pm
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I'm sure they were, Brian, but I wasn't alive to enjoy!
http://my.break.com/Media/View.aspx?ContentID=155501 - 1,000+ HP Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 12:50pm
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Sean Penn the actor lives in the area. A couple of years ago, he was driving around in a 20 year old Grand National. Easier to stay incognito. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Root
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 12:52pm
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Their's 3 of them down here. My neighbor has one It really comes alive when that turbo kicks in. I'll see if I can get some pics. I have a 67 pontiac firebird convertible, and a 68 pontiac firebird hardtop, both with 400-4speed. ------------- RootRacing |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 12:53pm
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These cars are good investments. Their value keeps creaping up, like the mid to late 90's Toyota Supra Turbo. I'm trying to convince my wife of this fact. I can't say the same for my '99 Mercury Mountaineer. I paid $28K for it and it's worth about $4,500. How is that even legal?
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 12:57pm
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I found a funny/not so funny quote on a Buick fan site.
"90% of all Ford's are still found on the road today. The other 10% made it home. " Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 12:58pm
| Ah, a subject close to my heart. The GNX and the GN are totally different cars (as was mentioned). The GN is essentially a T-Type with "Grand National" badging and paint. The GNX is a McLaren-developed supercar of which there are less than 600 in existance. Apparently it was developed to give the Calloway guys a run for the money. I went to a local car show back in college that featured a minty-clean GNX, bone stock with almost no miles. I thought the 0-60 was actually 5.5 seconds rather than sub-5, which is really insane for the time. I'd love to own a nice minty 87 GN at some point in life. |
Posted By: Root
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 1:01pm
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One of those buicks was for sale a few months ago, not shure if he sold it yet or not its black. ------------- RootRacing |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 1:08pm
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Name one car today that's stock, fast, mean looking and affordable. Granted the GNX was $29K in 1987. Almost 20 years later, the GNX still turns heads and is very fast. Lots of mods can be done to the engine too. Where have all the fast cars gone?
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 1:33pm
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547 GNXs, my buddy's dad has #300 new and I'm the first on the "sell to" list, I'd give him a kidney for that car.
My first car was an '85 T-type, black with GN wheels. It was a hot air car but could still get up and move! If it were a t-top car I never would have sold it. Goin' fast with cla$$!!!!!!! http://www.krif.com/tta/Movies/ - Some cool GN/TTA videos I recommend "GNjungle" Ken, I've given you crap for your queer tendencies in the recent pa$$ but you just scored major points with this thread! My chest is pumping just thinking about these cars. ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:01pm
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Hollywood, it doesn't get any better than Nautiques, Babes, Beers and a finely tuned GNX. That's my happy place. I'd give my right nut for a 1987, GNX, low mileage, perfect condition. It would be my weekend ride.
Would your buddies Dad take my right nut over your kidney? 
Thanks for the videos, Hollywood. I'll watch them all. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:13pm
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Where's Tim (TRBenj) when you need him? Tim, are you out there? Looking for some more information on the Grand Nationals and GNX's. How the heck does a 3.8, V6 kick out so much power?
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:22pm
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Its the turbo, Ken.
I agree, the Grand National is a sweet car. I think I remember hearing it was faster than the Vette of its day. ------------- |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:25pm
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Yes it was but purposely wasn't advertised as so it wouldn't hurt the Corvette name. ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:29pm
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The turbo lag is pretty hindering, from what I know. Once it kicked in though, you are pinned to the seat. I experienced one ride in my life in a GN and won't ever forget the G's when the turbo is maxed out.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:39pm
| Sadly, I've seen a few GN's in my area that are now fairly rusted out. Pretty sad sight. |
Posted By: Waterdog
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:46pm
| My younger brother had a T-Type. That car hauled. In the 80s it was the GM performance car. |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:50pm
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That is a sad sight. I would completely take care of mine, but drive it like it's supposed to be driven..HARD. Dang, those cars lay a nice patch. Hard to believe the 2007 Mustang GT 500, with 500HP runs 4.9, 0-60. The GNX with 300HP, does 4.7 (according to Car and Driver). Twenty year old technology against brand new technology. I can't say enough about GNX's. I believe Buick is manufacturing a new GNX. Not sure about the details.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:52pm
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You don't see many T-Types around either. What a sleeper!
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 2:57pm
I remember reading something about that in Car and Driver quite some time back. Sadly, it will probably be some watered down disaster that they will call a Grand National and ruin the name....not that GM would ever do that. Malibu. Impala. Anyway, that would be sweet, except I can't see myself strolling into a Buick showroom today and seeing a "drivers" car there. I can't recall the last time I saw anyone under 60 driving a Buick.
Rob ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7744" rel="nofollow - 2006 Ski 206 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1123" rel="nofollow - 97 SNOB |
Nautique2001 wrote:Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:00pm
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Our good buddy Johnny (the stub-leg barefooter) is on his SECOND LeSabre and he's only 25! ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:03pm
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Is it a turbo LeSabre at least? Maybe Johnny's driving a sleeper and can dust all of us.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:05pm
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buick-Grand-National-GNX-413-1g4gj1178hp451382_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6137QQihZ009QQitemZ190058064515QQrdZ1
Here you go Hollywood and Ken.....don't know if the seller would want a nut or kidney, but I bet he'll take the $70,000 the bid is up to. Rob ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7744" rel="nofollow - 2006 Ski 206 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1123" rel="nofollow - 97 SNOB |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:10pm
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Are you freaken kidding me??? Good luck to him. I love the car and all, but I wouldn't pay $70K. Maybe if I were super rich and wiped my butt with $100 bills, then yes. That is a sweet car though. Who would have thunk a Buick would be an investment? Maybe I'll offer him $15K.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:11pm
I will be content with any 86/87 GN, $70k is just out of my price range...  ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:16pm
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Check this puppy out:
http://www.oldride.com/cla$$ic_cars/241627.html - Bad a$$ Stand by, lost it. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:18pm
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http://www.oldride.com/cla$$ic_cars/241627.html ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:21pm
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Ken, you're killing me with the broken links.
Anywho, I found a http://www.oldride.com/cla$$ic_cars/241627.html - GNX Jacket & Hat on eBay for $600.  ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:23pm
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http://www.oldride.com/cla$$ic_cars/cla$$ic-cla$$ifieds-michigan.html?&SearchString=ALL&StateSearch=MI&SearchDesc=1&BasicSearch=1&SecSearch=&offset=40&SearchString=ALL&StateSearch=MI&SearchDesc=1 - Puppy
It's the $84,000 GNX for sale Search cars in Michigan, page 2 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:25pm
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I don't know why I can't get it up but you can search for it.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:27pm
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GNX, 161 original miles in Michigan, $84,000 on oldride.com/cla$$ic_cars ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:27pm
Too much info Ken. The "ss" in the URL turns to cla$$ic because of the a$$. ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:31pm
Got it, Tim. Maybe I need the stick juice from that Rx ad  . Anyway, back to Buicks and babes.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:34pm
Hey, Christmas is coming....maybe you could ask 20 of your closest friends to go in on it together!! Rob ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=7744" rel="nofollow - 2006 Ski 206 http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1123" rel="nofollow - 97 SNOB |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:37pm
Ahhh, life is great!!!
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:41pm
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Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:45pm
I'm sorry Mr. Spurling, your life long punishment will be two hot chicks, one who serves you beer all day, a GNX with 161 miles and a 2007 black and silver Ski Nautique. Plus, these super hot chicks will support you financially.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 3:48pm
May God bless your computer, Hollywood.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 8:09pm
Found a pic of the old panty dropper.
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Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-06-2006 at 9:16pm
| That's hot as hell. The GN "Power six" rims really set it off. |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 8:31am
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Very nice car, Hollywood. Bet you miss it. Did it have the 3.8 turbo? In any case, it looks fast.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 8:56am
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The video from Hollywood's link titled something like "GNX - American muscle car" is facinating. Good to know some of those GN facts I spouted off (which I probably haven't even thought of in 10 years) are actually true. I highly recommend watching the video- it's nearly 20 minutes long.
Here is the link- watch and learn http://www.krif.com/tta/Movies/American%20Muscle%20Car%20Grand%20National%20-%20GNX.wmv - Awesome video |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:02am
Yes I miss it, it's OK though cause I know I'll get another some day. It had the 3.8 Turbo, no intercooler though, which started in '86. Burgandy split bench interior and open rear end also motivated the sale. I've got a laundry list of cars I will be collecting over the years, non of which can't be had for under $10k. My dream is to have all my sons driving 80's G-bodies. ------------- |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:08am
My dream is to have my son bring home 80 girls in g-strings! |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:24am
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Great video, Joel. May this car never be forgotten!
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:33am
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I question why Correct Craft didn't manufacture more than one Special Edition, 5.4 Super Charged Ford Lightning boats in 2000. Like Buick, CC has an opportunity to product limited run boats with special modifications. CC would sell ever one of speically made boats, say with the 5.4 super charged engine or stroker engine. The selling feature would be a ski boat with ultra high performance. Just my opinion.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Tomski
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:34am
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Question from England:-
do they go round corners? ------------- Easily Parted From Money |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:40am
Probably because CC doesnt actually do any of the motor work- they source them all from PCM. Theres probably not much $$ in it for PCM to produce a HO motor. The ZR6 already has a pretty hefty pricetag, and Im sure a lower volume motor would be even more expensive. ------------- |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:44am
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Hello Tom from England,
I don't think these cars are really known for their sharp handling, like a Porsche. These cars are really known for straight ahead acceleration. I've never seen a GNX slalom through cones during a test. In America, it's easier to take somebody off the line versus a race involving corners. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:49am
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I see your point, Tim. At some point, 375 HP in a Nautique won't cut it. We seem to always thirst for more power, acceleration and top end. I'm not a fan of adding more weight to the boat to gain extra HP. The python seems like a beast. CC and PCM have an opportunity to team up and build a lighter engine that produces more HP and torque. Maybe supercharging the engine is the answer? It would be nice to have one more engine option...not that I will benefit from it anytime soon.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 9:55am
This engine would work nicely for a limited production Nautique:
Ford GT 500 engine @500 HP. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 10:12am
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The problem is the added cost of developing marinized parts for different engines. Cost and reliability are likely major concerns for PCM. The good thing is that the Chevy 350 and Ford 351w are strong motors that can make a lot of power with aftermarket parts- which are readily available and relatively inexpensive.
The ZR6 is based on the Chevy Vortec 6.0L. It has aluminum heads and weighs slightly less than the Excalibur 330. It performs pretty well on the smaller boats like the 196, though I would think the bigger V-drives could use a big block option. ------------- |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 3:27pm
Anyone of you older guys remember these Can Am's... Got busted once doing donuts in the high school parking lot in one of these... The GN was way faster, but it was a cool car back then in 77' Moj ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 4:01pm
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Mojo: Rare car! Always liked 'em.
quinner: I love the way ya think man. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: December-07-2006 at 8:44pm
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Jbear, gotta love another twisted soul!
I have a deep appreciation for Buicks, it was Johnny's Buick that shuttled several Hotties in GL05 not to mention getting Brownie and I home from the bar as well. It was my Dad's 77' Regal, brand new, that my 16yr old sister drove around the block several times while she and her friends screamed out the window, unable to stop, or at least in her mind, from the throttle stuck by the floor mats while she rode the brake to no avail, meanwhile Brownie and I at 12-13yrs old yelled "turn off the key" from the sidewalk at each pa$$ing while inhaling ma$$ive amounts of brake dust, all this cured by Sis turning up the drivway and shifting that Buick into Park to stop, OUCH! Mojo, my Dad had a 4 door standard issue versions of the Can-Am, IRC it was a LeMans, we refered to it as the backwards going topedo. And finally my first car accident was in a Buick GS, we were rear ended by a chick in an Impala, she never hit the brakes before hitting us, we slammed into the car in front we were waiting on which hit the car it was waiting on for a left turn, had to exit the car Bo and Luke style because the doors would not open all while picking gla$$ out of our lids. Who says Buicks are Old Man cars? |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-08-2006 at 9:01am
Is this what happens when you own a GN?
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-08-2006 at 9:03am
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Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-08-2006 at 9:30am
In 1993, I sold my Nissan Maxima for a 1991 Toyota Supra Turbo, targa top. It was bright red with gray leather interior. It was showroom condition with 12K miles on it. I modified with with a turbo boost controller giving me 12 pounds of boost. HKS intake and exhaust. Installed an Alpine CD player, EQ, 1,200 watt cla$$ A amp mono into a 12" JBL sub. 200 watt amp for front and back speakers. What a ride that car was. Once that turbo spooled up to 12, I was pushed back into the seat. Put about 30K miles on it and sold it for a new Nissan Pathfinder. 
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-08-2006 at 9:43am
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So Ken, where's the babe inside the hood of the Pathfinder LMAO?????
Moj ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: December-08-2006 at 9:53am
No babes seemed to have wanted to jump inside my hood, Mojo. It definitely wasn't a chick magnet, like the Supra was. Now I drive a Mountaineer, what's up with that???? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: December-08-2006 at 10:01am
AGE ??? ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |