Whats this boat supposed to bring?
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Topic: Whats this boat supposed to bring?
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Subject: Whats this boat supposed to bring?
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 6:24pm
| 1985 2001 all original with 276 original hours? Boat is almost as new as it was when purchased new and is all original. What should it bring guys? I have never seen one any better kept. |
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Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 7:10pm
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worth as little as the seller will take. what are they asking ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 7:23pm
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Another BOZO answer from Mr. Info, at least you spelled all the words right, 6 letters are about your max. The guy was wanting an honest price on average retail, i a$$ume.Is this correct oldschool?
boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 7:30pm
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You can go to nada.com. This is kind of a "blue book" for boats. I warn you however, that the market generally brings a little more than the nada prices. This is particularly true for the 82-89 Ski Nautiques. Though they're 20 years old, they are coveted as a great wakeboard/all around boat for a reasonable price. You can also look in the reference section of this website. Looks like there are about 7 from 85 (I didn't check 84 or 86) prices ranging from $3700 to $12,500. Sometimes, I also do a search on boattraderonline.com, just to get an idea of pricing. I usually do a nationwide search so I get a large enough sample. BKH ------------- Livin' the Dream |
Posted By: Darrel
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 7:49pm
| Check at the site, The 2001.com, they should really be able to fine tune the value. Like BKH said they have quite a range. |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 7:49pm
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Easy dr......79's answer was correct, just maybe a little on the flip side. No-one should pay any more than the least a seller will accept. Unless you got gobs of money and just wanna help the seller out 'cause you are a nice guy.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: scott8370
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 8:19pm
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He is asking $12500.00. Is that the one? ------------- Scott |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 8:42pm
and what the f**k did you offer? not a f**king thing again, like always. with the hours and if it is mint then it's going to be above average on the price, that's why I asked what are they asking. 12,500 if everything is in good order and all orginal might be a shade high put maybe not need to look at and see, compare here and the other places Brian suggest just don't be a jack a$$ and offer 7K,,, 10k at a min not to piss off the guy. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
boat dr wrote:Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 9:08pm
Plot of asking prices on this site. Looks like right around 10,000 for average condition. Go from there.
 ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 10:12pm
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there are a couple in the diaries that are asking 12,500 with really low hours and claim to be all orginal ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: hspore
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 10:49pm
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...if it's all original and the hours are correct, $10-11K would be a great buy, IMO. There's a lot of stuff out there that may be cheaper($6-7K) with more hours, but if you wind having to do repairs, you could be into it for close to that amount in no time. ------------- Heath |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 10:57pm
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 11:03pm
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jbear, all i hear out of this moron is how smart he and how dumb everyone else is,as far as what i add to this site a little info and considerable saving to some of the vendors i have accounts with.
The one time 79 sold something on this site he shorted the guy,1/2 the parts and then cussed and ranted at him for wanting his parts,the nerve of that gut for demanding parts he had paid for. Ya'll may have to suck up to him or maybe he intimadates you with his 4 letter words,he don't impress me. He's the kind i invite out of my shop........... I will continue to offer a discounts to anyone that needs or wants to save a little money.87bfn how much did you save on the prop shaft? 79 Have you given any thing to this site but advice,and you get what you pay for.your spelling still sucks 79 get a life...............boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: February-19-2007 at 11:38pm
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dr: He rants and he raves but when you meet him in person he is a different person. I am to old to suck up or be intimatated anymore, I just try to take things for what they are worth and not take things to serious. I try to stay away from this kinda thing usually on here, but the times I've met him in person he has been different than how he comes accross here. He was there with his tools at 7am when we were getting ready to start. And as Eddie said he was the "MC" of the job. He does have some skills under the motor box. Enough for me, I am out on this one.
john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 12:42am
| 1985s are great all around boats, I had one and I loved it, what is the most you are willing to spend on it? |
Posted By: 882001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 8:49am
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http://www.boattraderonline.com/adsearch/boatsearchprocess.html ------------- kemah texas http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=163&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990 - 1988 skinautique "2001" |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 9:25am
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All doc want's to do is use this site to sell products, or as he calls it pa$$ savings on to other members. Everytime something gets listed for sale it's the DOC or Timmy with a new group buy and it's getting old they don't even use the proper catagory. And if the Doc does Post it's usually to bitch at me, so what do you offer Doc to this site, cheap low grade parts.
NO NOT A f**kING THING IS WHAT YOU OFFFER JACK a$$ ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 9:37am
| Personally I think 12k for a 22 year old boat with any hour amount is compltetely crazy. Low hours on an engine doesn't equate to "good" all the time- ask 81Nautique about his low hour engine. I'd say any 2001 over 10k no matter what is ridiculous. At over 10k, you're getting into "really nice 1993 SN" territory. Sure, the wake won't be as huge but you'll get a good WB wake, twice the interior space, and no wood! To put it another way, you could get a 2001 model SN with a totally shot engine, re-build the engine your way and replace the interior for under 12k total. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 9:42am
Dont drag me into this pissing contest. ------------- |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 9:52am
87BFN owner Senior Member Joined: August 25 2006 Location: United States Posts: 325 Posted: February 19 2007 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | Report Post -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if you like working on them buy a cheaper one, want a turn key operation you pay for it. I wouldn't offer less then 10,500. Hard to haggle with a guy with a clean low low hour boat. Just my two cents unless he doesn't know what he has. But I am a$$uming he knows what he has. __________________ big blocks only Thats why I was asking because I haven't got the first email or call about it. i would think it was definately worth all of that because there are other guys out there asking $10000 for boats with 3 and 4 times the hours and not all original, but like everyone else, that just my .02 Oh, and sorry to get the bees nest stirring. |
Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 9:58am
Don't take offense Tim. I'm sure 79 has no beef with you. I wanted to mention that I see you bought the Tique from down in VA. I pa$$ around that area quite abit going to and from the lake. If you need any a$$istance in getting it back home let me know. I would be willing to pick it up from Sean and meet you somewhere in nothern Maryland or PA. It's just a thought. I also see that you don't mind the road trip. Good luck and thanks for the Rankin group buy, eventhough I'm not partaking. Again, not taking sides, but boat dr. your last 19 out of 20 posts have been specifically to bash 79. (I am aware of your warm welcome that you received from 79.) I say welcome back 79 and how about employing some "water under the bridge" diplomacy to the matter. -JMurph ------------- |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 9:58am
You can take it too the bank. IT IS ALL ORIGINAL. |
Posted By: JMurph
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:05am
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oldshcoolnautiq,
For what is worth, I looked at a really nice 2001 (mid to late 80's) about three years ago and the price was about $8,000. I didn't end up buying it, but it was a good deal and did sell soon after I looked at it. It was basically all original (some minor upgrades), but only had about 500 hours and was in great shape. I think the more recent realization that these boats make great "low-cost" wakeboard boats has actually increased their value. You may get somewhere north of 10k for your boat, but I have seen alot of the 2001 hulls that are priced a little higher sit on boattrader and other sites for a long time. No doubt, it is a great boat. You're not going to get a kid to buy it though, so you'll probably need to wait for someone that really cares about the originality. That may take some time. Good luck. -JMurph ------------- |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:19am
JMurph, thanks for the kind words and incredibly generous offer! If you dont mind, shoot me an email: TRBenj@gmail.com -Tim ------------- |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:24am
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Chad take a look at the boat and be very picky and look for flaws, non orginal parts, even small things to try and justify lower the price. It's like what was posted by someone else, do you want a turnkey boat or do you want to work on it some. ask who winterized it, how was it stored, how offen was it used, did it sit for years at a time or did the person just use it once or twice a year on vaction. Sitting for long periods isn't the best thing for the motor, do a compression test and/or leak down test to verify the engine's condition, so that you know the pistons are sealing good as well as the valves. Look at the fluids and smell them, does it smell burnt, or like gas, both are not good, does it look like fresh oil and tranny fluid or is it milky, water intrusion, not good. just go over it with a fine tooth comb that will help you feel out the seller in the process. Good luck keep us up to date on the rogress. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:30am
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Chris,
I agree with you. Tim and I were talking at the boat show about "low hour" engines. From what I understand about engines, it's actually not good for them to just sit. They're meant to run and keep gaskets and stuff lubricated. I told Tim at the show that I wouldn't hestitate for a second to purchase a boat with over 1,000 hours, with good service records. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:41am
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Chad, I "humbly" have to agree with 79 on the low hour motor,cyl.rust has a habit of lurking where it can't be seen.Pitted cyl. walls are as bad or worse than a high hour motor.79 would a leak down test detect pitting lower in the cyl? Sounds like luck of the draw.
A rebuild is expensive no matter the reason.........boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:47am
I am in total agreement guys. This boat was serviced and stored immaculately. It has spent the "right amount of time" on the water. The boat hasn't been stored for years at a time in a garage, but has been regularly used during the summer months. It has mostly been used for cruising and pleasure, not as much skiing and boarding. The hours have been very gentle, but often enough that everything has been lubricated and well kept. Keep in mind, the price says OBO.... |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:47am
| What if boat dr and 79 are the same person? |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:51am
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IMO, if an older Nautique is actually "showroom" condition and I were collecting boats, yes, I'd pay the $12K or so. Sort of like the Buick GNX, "showroom" condition car for $80K. I know there are two, 1985's for $12K. I'd need to look at them in person to justify that kind of $$$. The pictures they post do NO justice.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:55am
Neither one can spell?? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:59am
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IMO, some of the better deals out there are "higher hour" Correct Crafts. My next CC boat I hope to be a TSC1 hull. I wouldn't hesitate to find a great deal on a 1,000+ hour boat, again, as long as I can follow the service history. Whether the owner retained their own receipts, oil, parts, etc. or a dealer did. If I found a 1997 TSC1 hull for $15K with over 1,000 hours, what a steal. Even if it needs some replacement parts, it's still a deal.
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:09am
| Thats settles it. Reduced....$10500!!!! |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:10am
| I have lost my mind! |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:11am
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Here's one of those higher hour, newer boat deals.
http://www.newenglandcorrectcraft.com/usedboats_detail.cfm?ID=326 - 2002 Ski Nautique Nice affordable package for a new owner! Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:16am
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79 , I don't know about you,but that that was good for a belly laugh.M3Fan; don't let the secret out..........boat dr/79nautique ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:20am
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Chad,
I didn't realize until now that you're the one who's selling the 1985 with low hours. Don't lower the price on our account. Is it "showroom" condition or is it in great shape for its age? The $12.5 can get many people into a late 80's, even early 90's Nautique. However, if somebody is a nut about having prestine condition boats, then I can see why you're asking $12.5. I think $10.5 will stir more interest and might sell faster. Hold firm to that price though. Do you have more pictures you can post??? That will help you a lot. Good Luck. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:25am
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low hours have nothing to do with the condition of the stringers either. They are subject to rot same as any boat that age. Check that out thoroughly as 12k is a little over the top in my book.
It's been said already but a low hour engine doesn't mean much other than no one paid attention to it for a while. Not a good scenario, in my case the PO let the riser gaskets leak water down into the cylinders. Then without use the water caused severe pitting on the cylinder walls. Thats a $2000 fix for a set of gaskets. Here's what I've noticed on these boats with water problems, get down on your knees, open the battery box and take a good whif. That's a good place for water to set and you will smell mold immediately if it's wet in there. Also, if that year still has wood for the seat bases, flip all seats over and see what condition the wood is in. Hopefully they're solid but you may be surpised even though the vinyl looks great. Bottom of these seats is another good place for mold to grow and that means water again. Just check it out very thoroughly because at that price it should be turn key and the only thing to put in it is peeps and gas. Good Luck ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:29am
| I will post a few more pics so you can get a better about it. The cla$$ified add wouldn't let me post any more pics. Thanks for the help guys. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:30am
For the record I think that's a really fair price and is as much as you could hope to get for it. I'd never tell you that unless you asked, and you did 
Age is definatley a factor. For around 13-14k, you could get into a boat that is almost 10 years newer. |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:36am
True....I agree. For the record, the floor is original with no rot and it is solid as your concrete garage guys. And yes I asked and thanks for the input guys. All criticism is appreciated good and bad. |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 11:38am
| Keep in mind, that price is FIRM. I wouldn't wiggle an inch. |
Posted By: 82tique
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 12:15pm
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oldschool-
suprised I've never seen your boat on the water. I'm out virtually every weekend on the TENNTOM/ Pickwick. Is it your personal boat or are you a dealer? ------------- Life is Good. |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 12:30pm
------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 12:32pm
I second that statement. There's value in having a boat like yours in excellent condition. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 12:33pm
| Personal boat. Spend most my time at Bay Springs and a little at Pickwick. Yes, price will be firm. That is originally the "figure" I had in my head, so I started a little high so there would be some play, but there is more than one way to skin a cat I guess. |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 12:40pm
I hear ya, but now you're more attractive at $10,500. I paid $9,900 for my '86, 2001 in great condition. You shouldn't have any issues selling at $10.5 because of it's condition. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Darrel
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 4:29pm
| Thats a great approach. Now that you've lowered the price you will probably get a handful of offers that you can negotiate up to your price. Thats better than never having an offer to work with. A boat, as is anything else, is worth what a buyer is willing to pay and a seller willing to accept. |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 4:37pm
might might not depends on the postin of the piston in the cylinder, regardsless you cann't tell until it's torn down. Usually you listen where it's leaking, crankcase or intake/exhaust, coolant crankcase bad ring or cylinder wall is pitted, intake/exhaust it's a valve. bubbles in the coolant bad head gasket. So if you supect it's in the lower half then you can run a scope down the sprak plug hole and look, regardless if it's leaking it's bad and needs fixed and has to be taken apart. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: CCrider89
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 9:08pm
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I paid 8k for my 2001 89 last summer. Has rebuilt power about 200hrs. So 10k should at least get you some interest. ------------- CCrider89 Boating in the northern Adirondacks |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: February-20-2007 at 10:30pm
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oldschool,
Hope i didn't offend earlier, I thought you were buying not selling. I'm sure you know what you've got there and what condition it's in, I was just trying to help you avoid buying something that may have had some hidden issues. Good Luck ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: Tomski
Date Posted: February-21-2007 at 4:00am
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You boys are all spoiled!
Look at the price of this: http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F128596/ That's near enough $10k and it's tatty and got 1400hrs on it! What we have to put up with in the UK! Plus motion lotion at nearly $10 a gallon! You need to be committed to run a boat here, plus a good job, plus plenty of friends to chip in with fuel money. Worth it though! ------------- Easily Parted From Money |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-21-2007 at 10:05am
No offense guys. Like I said, critcism good or bad is appreciated because I asked for the opinions. |
Posted By: David F
Date Posted: February-21-2007 at 10:11am
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Oldschool:
I notice you are located in Kemah, TX. Does that mean the boat has been used mostly in the bay (i.e. salt water)? ------------- |
Posted By: 82tique
Date Posted: February-21-2007 at 12:49pm
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DF-
ICBW, but the boat is located in Tupelo, Miss. birthplace of Elvis Presley....thank you, thank you very much  ------------- Life is Good. |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: February-21-2007 at 2:34pm
| Tupelo, MS fresywater all its life |
Posted By: scott8370
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 5:42pm
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Chad,
I have to say, I was disappointed when I saw all the additional pictures you sent me. I expected "mint condition" and as new as the day it came off the showroom floor. In my opinion, it was far from that. The rub rail looked terrible. The trailer was fair. There were quite a few deep scratches in the hull and in the graphics. The dash and gauges looked very weathered. The boat may very well be worth 10,500, but the way you advertised it isn't accurate in my opinion. If you advertised it more accurately, when people see the pictures they may not be as disappointed as I was. Scott ------------- Scott |
Posted By: oldschoolnautiq
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 12:08pm
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Thanks for the input fellas. I modified the post a bit, and I think it will give you guys a better idea of what the boat "really" is. Sorry if it was misleading before, but reread the ad and it will give you a better idea of what this boat is.
thanks |
Posted By: 882001
Date Posted: March-04-2007 at 4:30pm
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ummm that would be me
and yes my boat is almost exclusivly used in salt water. ------------- kemah texas http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=163&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990 - 1988 skinautique "2001" |