The Barefoot Nautique
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Printed Date: September-25-2024 at 12:33am
Topic: The Barefoot Nautique
Posted By: Nautique2001
Subject: The Barefoot Nautique
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 8:17am
I've always loved BFN's. The question I have is, how much different is the wake versus the SN? I always wondered what the lines underneath the hull are for. They start at the keel and go underneath. Also, how do they form a flat wake with such a deep V in the rear?
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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 8:53am
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Never footed, skied or been in/on a BFN, I had heard the TWC hull that came out in 99' was somewhat based on the BFN hull, in this case to create a bigger wake.
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Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 9:02am
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I don't know Ken But I do Know I would love to have the Blue 80 model you posted. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 9:03am
I havent been in or behind one either, but a guy on our lake had an '89. It threw a pretty big wake, but supposedly the table is nice and flat. ------------- |
Nautique2001 wrote:Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 9:12am
I'm sure there are guys here (GottaSki?) who've skied/footed both the 2001 and BFN hull. I've only been behind Feelgood's BFN one time. Lifting strakes get the hull up out of the water pretty good. Wake is flat, hard, and tall.
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 9:15am
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Those lines along the bottom are called lifting strakes. They help the boat get more hull out of the water thus creating a smaller wake. That's the principal anyway, I too have never been behind one but it's doesn't matter, I want one.
The words barefoot and big block just do something for me, I will own one somewhere down the line. Hasbeenskiers 81 above is gonna look awesome when he's done with it. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 9:21am
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So that's a picture of what the BFN's wake looks like? Looks nice and flat...pretty wide too. I'd love to see a post with pictures of the differences between boat wakes. The BFN must have a monster wakeboarding wake. The extra weight of the 454 engine must help too.
Tim, that red '90 posted on the bottom has your name written all over it. $18.5K. It must have been around $23-24K new, right? Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 9:23am
| Probably a lot better than a SN on a big lake. I wonder if they turn like a SN, or roll over and make a wide arc? |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 9:47am
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Riley, I think youre right. Our dealer on Lake George says there are a fair number of Barefoots on that lake because they handle the rough water pretty well. They do roll in the turns because of the deep-V.
Ken, those colors are nice but I think Id prefer either a '80-81 or a '87-88. Im not sure his asking price is that far from the original purchase amount. ------------- |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 9:59am
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Sorry, most all the barefoot boats I footed behind were 2001's factory 'barefooted' with the 425 and tall pylon. The only CC barefoot boat I tried was and barefoot Excel, and the wake was mountainous.
Now, if you like low wakes and high speed, the Sanger DXII barefoot is superior and is the preferred boat of the barefoot gurus I used to foot with. The boat is brilliant, and well made, stable at speed and fast. There is not much better for an inboard, the Sanger outboard and Flightcraft are just a touch better.  ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 10:12am
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I imagine they handle really well in rough water. The hull looks pretty deep, and less flat. Probably better than the SN for cruising around with friends and family. Originally, in '04 when I was looking to upgrade, I drove up to Milton, NH to look at/buy a 1988 Dominique. It had sold two days prior. What a great boat(except, I prefer the observer seat over the single seat).
Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 10:47am
| Being in and behind just about every barefoot boat at one time or another, the Barefoot Nautique has the nicest table of any barefoot boat ever made. Flat, smooth and little tubulence. The wake curl is friggin' huge and harder than hell but once you get used to them, they really aren't bad for doing wake crosses front, back, one or two feet as long as you have good technique. They are extremely intimidating though. The Sanger Barefooter inboard is the epitome of barefoot boats right now like GottaSki said and have been since the early 90's. They will turn 50+ MPH easily with a 330HP Black Scorpion SB motor and they have a 8.1L option that damn near runs 60MPH. The wakes are small, smooth, non-turbulent and medium hard. The Sanger and Malibu Flightcraft outboards are even better but they are outboards after all and neither one is manufactured any longer. They also loose a lot of speed as you get more people/weight in the boat. Malibu has a barefoot option in their Response that has a 383 Hammerhead in it. The wake is OK but not nearly as good as the Sanger. Definitely better than a Barefoot Nautique though. That Hammerhead motor is friggin' awesome. We've run 47MPH with 4 footers in tow in a 2900# boat and still had throttle left. |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 4:40pm
| footed behind one in Sept, bought an 85 in Dec. No turbulance behind the boat and great for rough water racing. |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 6:01pm
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the bfn's handle great in rough water, they are awsome at wakeboarding speed, take a few mphs and slalom wake is wonderfull, then hit her full up and you have your footin wake. I know my dad used to foot with three other guys, all of them averaged 220 or better and the could all foot behind an 89 bfn with not probelm 45mph and still some hammer left. I know they used to let me drive sometimes. Just never got to learn how to foot. Mom said was to little and wouldn't let dad teach us kids. Dad argued he can drive he can foot, but guess mom won on that one.
Growing up I never knew there was another inboard other then a master crap. ------------- |
Posted By: hasbeenskier
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 8:08pm
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I have owned a couple of Barefoots and They are sweet. They will not turn in there own tracks like a Ski Nautique but that is what a Ski Nautique is for. They handle chop much better so Barefoots are designated cocktail cruisers. One certainly does not want to spill ones livation. ------------- hasbeenskier |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: March-02-2007 at 8:41pm
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very true hasbeen, that would be alcohol abuse and we can't ahve that.
Hasebeen, did you ever close the deal on that 79 BFN with the 460? Tried asking on the other thread but no response guess you missed it. ------------- |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 7:42am
| Hey 87BFN. I'm new to the site so I don't know much of all the history of you guys. But don't tell me you own a Barefoot Nautique and don't know how to foot? Your boat looks great but I'll bet it looks better from the business end of a barefoot rope at 45mph. |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 8:16am
haha yes tullfooter, sadly enough, it is true.... but it's alright we tolerate him anyhow...
Nate ------------- Nathan http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1463&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1978&yrend=1978" rel="nofollow - My '78 Ski Nautique <a href="http://photobucket.com/Nates78ski" rel="nofoll |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: March-21-2007 at 7:10pm
Here's some wake shots from our trip down to Feelgood M.D.'s place last fall. Boat load = 5/6 gas??
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Posted By: Feelgood M.D.
Date Posted: March-21-2007 at 7:33pm
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yeah, we were probably 3/4 tank with 4 passengers and 1 40 oz Mickeys to distribute the weight more evenly... if my memory serves correctly. ------------- Hunting for a Early 2000s Super Air or Super Sport w/ a Python Former Boats: 2001 SN 196 1986 BFN |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: March-21-2007 at 8:35pm
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Alan that is the Ford Powered one pictured above. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: March-22-2007 at 5:54pm
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ultrahots what was ford powered?
Tullfooter, missed your post when you posted I guess. No at the presant time I can not say I know how to foot. Tried numerous times with no luck. Going to hit it heavy this spring. I don't think I will be allowed to bring the BFN to GL not knowing how to foot. I plan on giving it hell in april with out the bar. If no luck may we put the cheater bar on and learn that way. Face plants don't hurt that bad besides, my wife says it's pay back for dragging her out on the lake so early. ------------- |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-22-2007 at 10:11pm
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87BFN, if you want any help in your quest to foot, give me a shout or email and you can come out to the White Lake area or we'll head out your way and get you on your feet. This weekend I plan on getting my 85BFN to my house and do some learning on what I will need to do to make this thing ready for the late April. This site is a huge help in my struggle to learn the ways of the inboard and even better, the joy of CC ownership. Gotta go, shootout in the Wings game. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-22-2007 at 10:22pm
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Damn Federov!! ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: March-23-2007 at 8:04am
Yeah, I'm still second guessing letting that one go by but BJ will do a nice job with it. ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-23-2007 at 8:14am
Youre talking about http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1577 - this boat , right? Its Ford powered, but its not a big block. ------------- |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: March-23-2007 at 8:22am
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Correct.That boat is very nice but has a few issues like no original trailer and a bad motor to deal with. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: March-23-2007 at 4:21pm
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The boarding wake behind these boats is incredible for the era they were made in. Steep curl and it sends you to the moon. I had a 92 V drive. It had the identical wake to a friends 86 BFN direct drive. The slalom wake was decent and the footing wake was great. I learned my first backflips and undertakers on my kneeboard on a BFN. The one issue with my 92 was it only had a single skeg and handled like crap on turns. Short of that it was the second best boat I ever owned. ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: March-27-2007 at 11:02pm
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Had to chime in here...mine is the third picture at the top of the thread. I'm one of those guys who owns a barefoot but doesn't know how. I've footed before, off a boom, but that's it. I bought the boat as a cheap wakeboard boat. We've had it for almost two years (starting our third summer) and haven't regretted it for a minute. The wake has a great shape for boarding...a little narrow, but we run 750# in the back and 450# up front and it widens it out and pumps it up a bit. I love the 454 and you learn to pull people up slowwwwly :) I have friends with newer "nicer" boats. They have all the creature comforts, but they are like Hondas, and mine is a muscle car...totally different feel. ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: March-28-2007 at 5:44pm
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Dank as I said, I plan to cure the no footing this spring. ------------- |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 12:55pm
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Don't you worry 87, the doctor is in.
Hey Dank, I like the ballast system you put in your boat. Where do I get such a system? Steve ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 4:37pm
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Right now I've just got two http://www.wakeside.com/page/w/PROD/wakeboard_boat_ballast/launch_pad_link_single_xl_07 - Launchpad bags and a pump we run from the cigarette lighter. I've got plans to build in the ballast system, but you know how plans are :)
btw, here's a pic of the wake. I don't remember the exact weight setup this day.  ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 4:43pm
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Dank,
I was referring to the human ballast system shown in the bottom pictures of your diary post. Forget your plans and keep doing it the way you are. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 4:54pm
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ahhhh...They were a little light, that's why I had to get so many of them ;) ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 4:59pm
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Dank more is always better, when they are that size.
Tullfooter, will have to have you out on the lake with us when outback day rolls around. Usually couple times a summer all the girls that work with my wife like to go out on the boat. ------------- |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 5:02pm
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I'm there, how about tomorrow. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: Nautique2001
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 5:10pm
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Dank,
About how fast are you boarding in the picture? Your wake looks pretty flat and smooth. At 20MPH, my wake is a more defined rooster tail. You look like you're humming along at higher speeds by the look of your wake. Ken ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1052&sort=&pagenum=4&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - Nautique 2001 |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 5:16pm
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I thought the same thing. I figured the rider was setting up for a wakeboard bomb out to barefoot. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 5:26pm
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I thought it was just me that thought that about the wake, so I kept my mouth shut. I would guess some where in the range of 25-30, I would say closer to 30.
Tullfooter I think it is a little early for my wives friends to be out in bikinis, well I don't but they do. Plus Eric still has my boat. Wont be long though. They are chickens I usually can't get them out on the water until late June. ------------- |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 5:38pm
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Never too early. My wife and two of her friends were suntanning on the dock last Sunday, sipping marguaritas (spelling?). My two sons were swimming off the dock on Tuesday. My thing would turn inside out if I jumped in.
If the girls are in bikinis, a pontoon will do. We'll set it up for the summer, kind of a mini Michigan CC reunion. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 5:52pm
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sounds good to me, you might not have seen it. But I tell all my wives friends and my friends that are women already know it. Any woman not related to me must be wearing a bikini to get on the boat.
All the guys that go on the boat seem to like the rule. I will have to see if I have outback day pics from two years ago. ------------- |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: March-30-2007 at 8:22pm
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We normally ride about 22mph...the wake gets pretty flat pretty quick. ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-31-2007 at 8:02am
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22 seems a bit fast for wakeboarding/wakeskating. We like to ride between 17-20, 20 for us bigger guys. I know it sounds picky, but the wake is much better and the crashes are softer on this 44yr old body.
It sounds strange but I've been footin' since I was 13 and other that one crash (dislocated shoulder), my hardest falls have been wakeboarding. It's like snowboarding, with your feet locked together, no time to prepare for the hit. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: March-31-2007 at 8:30am
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87
Similiar rule in the hot tubs. No bathing suits, it screws up the filtration system. Thanks for the info on the strait 40wt oil. That's what I'll run. ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 6:52pm
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When I get a hot tub will have to remember that rule. ------------- |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: June-04-2007 at 11:05am
Here's some shots of the BFN's "wakeboarding" wake.
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Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: June-04-2007 at 5:53pm
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Hollywood I thought I was the only bastard that crazy on two skies now I know there are more of us. I love to see if I can clear the wake on two skies nice shots. ------------- |
Posted By: Barracuda
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 3:40pm
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Was browsing the reference section today and ran across this very interesting photo of a boom setup on an 80 BFN.
Has anyone seen this setup in person? Have photos? http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/1980_brochure/index.asp?page=08 - link It looks like one boom cable is connected to the front D ring (standard) and the other to the observers left breast...very odd... Did CC offer factory "training bars"? ------------- Former: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=759" rel="nofollow - '86 Nautique http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=507" rel="nofollow - '65 Barracuda |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 3:51pm
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her left breast, that would hurt ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 4:33pm
Check the clothing section. 
The 'line' you see is a triangular, rigid truss made of bar-stock to stiffen the whimpy bar. Early booms were really rigid, then sombody figgured out a little flex is a good thing. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: Barracuda
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 4:43pm
 ------------- Former: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=759" rel="nofollow - '86 Nautique http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=507" rel="nofollow - '65 Barracuda |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: April-04-2008 at 3:47pm
Cleaning my hard drive, found this picture thought it was pretty cool.
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