What battery to use?
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Topic: What battery to use?
Posted By: doubleup16
Subject: What battery to use?
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 12:38am
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I have a 83 2001SN and it needs a battery. What size battery fits and what ratings should I get? Any brands to stay away from? Thanks.
Noah |
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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 7:07am
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Consumer Reports does a excellent job of testing and reporting the performance of batterys. The only difference between marine and auto is the addition of the stud terminals. Stay away from the temptation of getting a amp hour rating larger than you need for the engine. As amp hour increases, plate size and quantity increases and this reduces the internal support of the battery. Our boats need this support since most failures are due to the pounding they get in our boats. Use the same size (dimentional) as the old one and go by the manufacturers recomendation for the amp rating for your engine. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 7:10am
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And don't be tricked into a deep cycle 'marine' battery, they suk for starting V8's. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 10:01am
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get a battery with at least 650 CCA's, interstates suck, everything autozone or advance has suck as well. Get an A/C Delco or Optima battery don't even consider anything else. Also before you install the battery put it on a changered for a little while, I don't know how long it has sat on the shelf. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 10:18am
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Speaking of sitting on the shelf, look at the manufacture date on the battery. The newer the better as a battery will sulfate with age. The Optima is a excellent choice if you want to spend the $$$. They use a unique cell system that can really take the pounding. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 1:19pm
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Optima Batteries in Everything I own.Boat cars and Truck.I ran a Car Stereo shop for 8 years and this is all we used.79 is correct most of the Batteries on the market Suck.The shop I work for now we only use Optima and AC Delco.You get what you pay for in the Battery world. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: doubleup16
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 1:26pm
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so a "marine" battery is no different than your regular car battery as long as it has the correct CCA rating.
Also I don't have the previous battery so I guess I could measure the box but I was hoping someone new what size it was or could point me to where I could find out. Thanks for the good information. How much cash is an Otima? |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 1:28pm
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Optima RED top should cost you in the $100 range.I can buy them localy from 3 sources for $95 to $105 Retail.
If you are going to use the top terminal do not buy it with both top and sides as it costs more.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 2:02pm
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Ultra, are all optimas gel batteries that can be mounted in any orientation? I know the blue tops are good for that.
The D34M (blue top) looks to be a nice battery, as its considered both a starting battery (750 CCA) and a deep cycle. I cant find them for any less than $170-180 locally though. 
Im in need of a new battery- but the cost has me hesitant to spring for an optima. I imagine AC Delco may be the way to go for now, since I think theyre about half the price. Are there any particular models that would stand up to the harsh marine environment better than others (vibration, corrosion, etc)? ------------- |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 2:11pm
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Doubleup, auto batteries are for cars and trucks,The word marine say's it all.
There is more room in the bottom of the battery container,the reason for this ,to prolong batt. life. It gives the lead sulfate,by product of charging,a place to collect.By doing this you get a longer time frame till a cell shorts{bad cell}The plates are also of a different construction, but the same materials.They won't shake apart as fast. Deep cycle means they will D/C more times than a car batt.{25/30 cycles will do in a car batt.] A deep cycle is charging till specific grafity[sp] is 1225,then totaly discharge ,i.e. trolling motor. No they ain't the same..........boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 79nautique
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 2:16pm
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Terry I forgot you had that sweet olds. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=756&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1979&yrend=1979 - 79 nautique |
Posted By: doubleup16
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 2:57pm
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DR. thanks for the info. I guess the part that made me ask the was
"And don't be tricked into a deep cycle 'marine' battery, they suk for starting V8's." GottaSki: Please explain. So it's the deep cycle that is not needed? |
Posted By: GottaSki
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 3:09pm
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basically yes.
Typical deep cycle 'marine' bateries have too much internal resistance. They can discharge the amps but it won't be at the same rated voltage a starting battery will. The starter goes slower, and DC motors pull more amps at lower rpms. More amps at less volatage = more heat and less work done. Tends to fry starters, wires, terminals and make solenoids arc together as they chatter, then stick (weld closed), because the dash will only see about 6-8 volts, and the dash supplies the start solenoid. thus causing the starter to run on witout the key till some part 'lets the smoke out' Deep cycle batteries are fish motors, abnoxious stereos and outboards, not automotive V8s. ------------- "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing." River Rat to Mole |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 3:09pm
Edit: Gottaski beat me to the punch. There are some dual purpose batteries out there that function well as starting batteries, including the Optima D34M. ------------- |
doubleup16 wrote:Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 3:22pm
| i use a autozone marine battery..i think its around 1000 cca's...great battery, i personally would never buy a battery thats over 100...mine works just as good and has a 4-5 yr warranty..my .02 cents |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 3:29pm
| I have the 750cca blue top optima dual purpose battery. Yes, it was around 200 bucks out the door but I figured it would be worth it for running the radio while chilling and having the starting capability as well. We also have PP, heater, etc. so I didn't want to screw around. It has two sets of posts- wingnut posts and the standard clamp posts. All optima batteries can be mounted in any orientation. |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 3:52pm
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I have had an Optima Blue top in my nautiuqe for 7 years and is still going strong, I just put it in the garage during the winter on a trickle charge , no problems, They are a little pricey but I have not purchaced a battery in 7 years .
Nautique Frk |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 6:28pm
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I know you guy's are going to laugh and think I'm crazy, but here's what I do.Every couple of years I buy a new battery for one of my Jeeps, 3 in the rotation and use the old one for the boat.I'm running an older boat tho that does not use much electrical power.So far I've never had any trouble. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: doubleup16
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 6:34pm
I am plannig on putting in a stereo this year and thought of doing the dual battery set up. It won't be a super system just one amp for the sub and power the other speakers off the deck. Would an optima handle playing that for maybe 2 hrs. and still be able to crank the motor over? Would the dual baterry be a better or more fool proof way to go? Thanks, Noah |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 7:02pm
| i just helped install a stereo system in my boat and ran a dual battery perko setup...still cheaper than some of those optimas... |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 7:29pm
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I have 1800 Watts of 160DB power in my Yukon.If I run it at full tilt you have a half an hour tops with 2 red tops on board.I had 300 Watts in my 98 Camaro and 2 hours at moderate volume it was no problem to start after that.It all epends on how much amperage is wanted or needed.There is also battery interrupters which will click off items as the voltage drops to low.Thus allowing you to start still.The shop I work for sells AC Delco and one the size needed for my 87 would cost about $80 so there is not much of a difference in my opinion.The spiral wound core of an Optima will definately take more abuse than a standard battery.Worth the $$ To me ABSOLUTELY.A 3 year free replacement warranty is also a great feature inclded with Optima Batteries as well. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: tnplicky
Date Posted: March-03-2007 at 7:59pm
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WalMart EverStart!
What can I say.... it came with the boat. Haven't had any problems (yet). I juice it up a couple of times over the winter and call it good. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-04-2007 at 12:26pm
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dr, You may be spending to much for your batteries with the word "marine" on them. I think you need to do so research into lead acid batteries. The following is good reading:
http://www.uuhome.de/william.darden/carfaq7.htm#marine "The wet "starting" marine/RV battery is basically a wet car (or starting) battery with carrying handles and stud or combination terminals and designed for high current and shallow discharges (up to 5% Depth-of-Discharge)." ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: March-04-2007 at 7:13pm
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8122, In my shop , we use only Deep Cycle, group 24 for starting small outboards ,4 strokes and v-6 engines get group 27 all else gets the group 29. CCA of these as follows 24 have 650; 27 850 ;29 have 1000 cold cranking amps @ 32 degrees.
The amp hours is what tells me how good a battery will stand up under amps, subs and killer stereo systems. group 24=80 amp/hours, group 27 110 amp/ hours, group 29 130 amp/hours. I agree with the marine designation,you just get wing nuts,looks like i did not explain the batts. I use.......Interstate has the highest failure rate , followed in quick order ,Wal-Mart;Auto-Zone,K-Mart.I only sell Continental,no kicks on warranty,135 sold last year..........boay dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: jhatem
Date Posted: April-28-2007 at 8:18am
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Anyone want to recommend an AC/Delco model for 1997 Ski Nautique with the Pro Boss engine? I am getting wrapped around that axle trying to sort out CCA, MCA, deep cycle, starter, deep cycle/ starter combo choices. Thanks. ------------- '97 196 |
Posted By: bchesley
Date Posted: April-28-2007 at 1:59pm
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Dont laugh, but I just replaced my Walmart everstart last week with an original purchase date of May 18, 2000. It was a 650CCA automotive battery. It took a beating for 7 years of wakeboarding with a heavily loaded boat. I really only replaced the battery because I added a stereo and figured I was pushing my luck. I replaced it with a PC1200 by Odyssey. It is a starting and deep cycle. Has some impressive specs will see if it oulast my Walmart battery!!!!
Brad |
Posted By: acpskitique
Date Posted: May-02-2007 at 11:45pm
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Autozone has a cranking/marine battery with 850 cca's I think. It was only $60. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1896&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1976&yrend=1980 - '76 Ski Tique 302PCM |
Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: May-03-2007 at 6:56am
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Just don't forget that the battery has to be a bit shorter than most batteries to fit in the battery compartment. Might want to take a height measurement before you head to the store. ------------- 2000 SN GT40 w/99 Graphics/Gel 2016 SN 200 OB 5.3L DI https://forum.fifteenoff.com |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: May-03-2007 at 8:44am
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I've found out in the past that you can never go wrong with a good quality battery. This is one of those things where the term "You get what you pay for" really stands out. I currently have an Optima red top in my boat for the past four years. I was really reluctant to pay the price for it but I gotta tell you, I would pay double for that same battery when I need to replace it.
The climate that you run in and how you store it can make a huge difference. In FL, the hot weather just eats batteries so the better you get the longer it lasts. Period. The better batteries normally have a better warranty as stated earlier too. |
Posted By: fixitjim
Date Posted: May-03-2007 at 9:26am
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I installed my battery for the first time after winter storage and tried to start my 93 SN last weekend. Battery dead. I went back to Advance Auto because the only two options in the nearest small town wer Auto Zone and Advance. I checked my battery and realized it was eight years old. Last year it was a little slower turning over which lead me to believe I was having starter problems...not knowing the battery was that old. I do remove and charge several times over the winter. I did purchase excatly the same $60 battery again (650 cold cranking). Eight seasons is pretty good even though I probably should have only used it seven. ------------- fixitjim |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: May-03-2007 at 10:57am
| You might also check out Napa. I got one of their top-of-line 72 month batteries for my daughters car when it was in Chicago. A month after we moved to FL, the battery went dead. The battery at the time was actually only about 18 months old. I took it back to Napa and because it was into the pro-rated part of the warranty, a brand new replacement battery cost me $18. The fact that a cell went out in the battery itself was not a real good indication of the quality of the battery, but that could also happen to any battery. The plus side is that because it was a top-of-the-line battery, the warranty in this case was more than worth the extra cost of the battery. A cheap battery would have mean't paying full price for a brand new one. They were great about the replacement too. No questions, issues, comments or fighting to get a replacement. Even with the original purchase in Chicago and the replacement in FL. I would definitely go back there again after that. |