Starterproblems with my 88 sn2001
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Topic: Starterproblems with my 88 sn2001
Posted By: straylight
Subject: Starterproblems with my 88 sn2001
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 8:54am
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Hi all,
last weekend i did the first "in-water"-test of my new 1988 ski nautique 2001. In general the test was successful. She doesn't take water and the engine is running strong :) If it's running... That is the problem. After putting a fully loaded battery (55Ah) into the boat she started after a little pumping and ran smoothly. I let her run for a while until temp got up a little. Then i stopped her and i waited for my friend to get his boat running. I started again a she came easily whith some gas when turning the starter. It took my frind a little longer to get his boat ready and i stopped again after about 10 minutes and relaxed. Then after another 10 minutes we were ready to go and i started her again. No probs with some gas while turning the starter. So we went out and cruised for about 20-30 Minutes (mixture between slow and fast ride). We stopped for a talk and i stoppped the engine for about 10 minutes and did not get her to start anymore. The starter turned as if the battery was very empty. We tried to bridge her with the battery from my friends (running) boat, but the same thing. Then we tried to connect the bridg-cable (english?) dirctly to the starter and it turned equally slowly. We finally managed to get her running when i turned the starter and my friend connected his battery directly to the starter. So the problem was not enough power for the starter to turn quickly enough. I will renew the battery tomorrow and replace the startercables with new and bigger ones and hope that will help. It is really not funny to be on a river and not beeing able to start again... Any thoughts on this? Regards, Tom P.S.: Sorry for my english... |
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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 9:23am
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Hi Tom
The obvious problem would be that the alternator is not charging the battery. The other problem could be your cables. When cables get warmer, they have more resistance and do not conduct electricity as well. Have your alternator tested and replacing the cables is a good idea. Hope this helps And remember; Renew= Charge Bridge cables= Jumper cables ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: straylight
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 9:44am
Hi,
I thought of that as well, but when the engine was running i accidentally removed the negative cable from the battery and the engine kept running. At least i know now that the alternator delivers some power. If enough to charge the battery as well (i believe it should be at least 13.8V and not more than 14.4V) i yet have to measure.
Yes, i orderd 25qmm cables today and will replace my old cables as soon as i get them.
I ment Renew = Replace ;) Thanks, Tom |
tullfooter wrote:Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 10:08am
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Hi Tom,
Hey! Whats wrong with your english? I'd bet you 1000 deutchmarks(?) that 99% of the guy's in here couldn't speak or even try to write any German. I'll have to agree with Steve on the alternator problem. I had the same problem with my 86 Cheverolet Pick up about 3 months ago. I even bought a new battery not thinking the problem was the alternator. After the new battery ran down I knew something else was the problem. Pulled the alternator off had it tested and that was the problem. Again same set of symptoms you just described. Keep us informed, and post us some pics when you get the chance. We'd all love to see your rig in German waters!! ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: straylight
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 10:36am
Hi,
I am having difficulties finding the right vocabulary to describe technical issues 
Google- or Altavista-translators are not much help 
I'll see. Maybe it is not the alternator, but the - hmm - "charge controller"(??). I'll have to measure these things. And I'll post pictures as soon as i have some. Until then i can only show you my http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1704&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1988&yrend=1988 - diary (not yet updated...) Perfect Pass is installed and running fine, new stereo is playing nicly music and new decals look - hmm - flashy
Thakns again, Tom |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 10:53am
I think youre talking about the regulator. I believe all Correct Crafts 84 and newer have internally regulated alternators. ------------- |
Posted By: straylight
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 11:48am
Hi
okay... regulator Learned another word today.... So i just have to measure the voltage at the battery-cables when engine is running. Does this make any sense while the cables are conected to the battery? I heard that is not such a bright idea to pull the cable from the battery while the engine is running...
Regards, Tom |
Posted By: Morfoot
Date Posted: April-02-2007 at 12:08pm
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Tom, do you have a local automobile repair shop or parts store that can check the output on your alternator? The regulator( charge controller) should be an internal part of your alternator. An autoparts store should be able to put it on a bench tester and test the output of your alternator for you and tell you if it is bad. The machine will actually put a load on it for you and tell you the outputs of the alternator and if it needs to be replaced. ------------- "Morfoot; He can ski. He can wakeboard.He can cook chicken.He can create his own self-named beverage, & can also apparently fly. A man of many talents."72 Mustang "Kermit",88 SN Miss Scarlett, 99 SN "Sherman" |
Posted By: straylight
Date Posted: April-03-2007 at 2:54am
Hi,
yes i have and i will have it tested. Regards, Tom |
Posted By: straylight
Date Posted: April-04-2007 at 5:40am
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Hi,
yesterday evening a vistited her again and had a multimeter and a brand new battery (70Ah) with me. First i measured the output of the new battery which was 12.2V then i removed the cables from the old battery (55Ah), measured there and got 13.somthingV from it. "Hmm", i thought, "doesn't look too bad at all" and i tried to start her up. She startet on the first turn. At least the battery was not emtpy after my last 1h trip around the river. I let her run for about 10 - 15 minutes with changing rpms (600-2500) to raise temperature and stopped the engine. Tried to start again directly and she started without even giving her any throttle. hmm. Let her run again. 10 - 15 minutes. Stopped the engine and waited 10 minutes. Tried to start. Started fine with a little throttle. I repeated the whole procedure for about one hour and measured the voltage at the battery while turning on lights, radio, blower etc... I never got below 13.2V. Regulating was a bit slow, but after sime time the voltage rose again even with all electrical equipment on. On the last test i noticed, that the starter cranked a _little_ slow, but still the engine fired up right away. After that i replaced the battery with the new one and tried to start her again. The starter cranked fast again and she started up at once. This is (i think) perfectly normal behaviour and i will remove the alternator/regulator from my list. I will replace the mainswitch and startercables on friday and if the problem still exists after sime riding (I did not dare to take a ride yesterday, for beeing alone), i think i will have to have a closer look at the starter. Any thought on this? Regards, Tom ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1704&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1988&yrend=1988 - My 1988 SkiNautique 2001 |
Posted By: straylight
Date Posted: April-10-2007 at 6:11am
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Hi all,
on friday i changed the battery, the main cables to and from the battery, circuit breaker and main switch and replaced the main switch which was nearly falling apart. Additionally i cleaned and greased all contacts. The result? I had a absolutly gorgeous weekend with an absoultly reliable boat. 
Thanks to all and best regards, Tom ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1704&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1988&yrend=1988 - My 1988 SkiNautique 2001 |