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Topic: You probably missed this
Posted By: roadkingpuck
Subject: You probably missed this
Date Posted: June-13-2007 at 6:38pm
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Sentencing of Richard C. Reid
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it? Did you know his trial is over? Did you know he was sentenced? Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV or Radio? Didn't think so. Everyone should hear what the judge had to say. Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court. Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say. His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stating, "I think I will not apologize for my actions," and told the court "I am at war with your country." Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below: January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid. Judge Young: "Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you. On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutively. (That's 80 years.) On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years again, to be served consecutively to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you for each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 that's an aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines. The Court imposes upon you an $800 special assessment. The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further. This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Now, let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice. You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether the officers of government do it or your attorney does it, or if you think you are a soldier. You are not----- you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice. So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and the TV crews were, and he said: "You're no big deal." You are no big deal. What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today? I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing? And, I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know. It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf, have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges. We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. The day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice. See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America.That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. And it always will. Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down. So, how much of this Judge's comment did we hear on our TV sets? We need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. |
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Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: June-13-2007 at 7:27pm
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Roadkingpuck,all ihave to say on that has already been said;
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Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: June-14-2007 at 2:52am
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they hate us primarily b/c we're infidels (to them), not b/c we are free
nonetheless, i'll agree in that mr. young seemed to handle this approprietly (sp) in my opinion. he is right in that america will forget this and move on, as it did... i was at a comedy club some time ago and one of the comics said that the best way to get back at bin laden was NOT to kill him, NOT to put him jail, but to capture him and make him wait in line through security at every airport in the US.. and make him put his camel through the x-ray machine, then he'll understand the REAL damage he's caused to americans... lol ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: June-14-2007 at 7:25am
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Michael Moore's at it again with a new movie on health care in America, he goes on to explain the medical benefit's of the detainee's at Guantonamo Bay... complete health care including dental, eye, and so on
I love when this guy pokes at the beehive. BTW, I chuckled when i read the your no big deal part ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: June-14-2007 at 8:38am
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ehhh... Michael Moore, I'm not sure there's anyone i could stand less than him...
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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: June-14-2007 at 10:38am
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Im on the fence right there with you, but damn he makes some good points ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: June-14-2007 at 11:38am
better yet... what do you guys think of bill maher...  lol------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: June-14-2007 at 11:45am
I gotta agree with you on that. He certainly knows how to get you thinking anyway. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
eric lavine wrote:Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: June-15-2007 at 7:34am
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ABU, thats the other guy I hate more, he seems very arrogant and the only way he can get laid is to hang at the PB mansion ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: AbunDiga909
Date Posted: June-17-2007 at 11:19pm
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hahaha... im sorry but bill maher is, quite frankly, the man. it takes a comedian these days to cut through all the BS out there and get the real point across. He get his point across very well and always has a republican or two on his show to give the other side of the argument--very fair. On the other hand, the person who I think is corrupting American minds is mr. Bill o'rielly (sp?), who claims his goal is to get across honest news, like everyone else. But, if you watch some of his factor reports online, it becomes very clear that his REAL goal is not to give the honest truth to the public, but rather bash bush-haters and the "far-left" by showing the extremes of that side. He brags about the ratings of FOX versus that of other companies, as if thats what really matters in the long run. To me, a news station bragging about ratings is like CC saying you should buy their boat b/c of JD Power Awards--they're nice to have, but they really dont mean jack squat when push comes to shove.
News should be a public service, not an entertainment business. A recent poll showed that approximately 95% of FOX viewers believed Saddam had to do with 9/11, while only a mere 5% of PBS viewers believed this false fact. PBS, imho, is the ONLY true news station out there these days. This is b/c of a simple fact--they're public! When a company becomes privately owned, like FOX, the "greed" factor quickly plays a part in the company and cold hard news switches to stupified entertainment; that's, unfortunately, where the money is in this country--the country with one of the most conservative media coverage out there. Iraq's own Al Jazeera is more liberal than our media. sry for the "rant," haha... i just took a course in u.s. foreign policy, so this is all very fresh in my mind Austin P.S. getting laid at the pb mansion is nothing to be ashamed of  ------------- I Nautique, therefore I am. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: June-18-2007 at 7:37am
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Man, I hear more sh*t about that skank Paris hilton than anything else going on in the world, every high school kid should be required to take a foriegn policy class in this country. it is a confuse and conquer media and you hear what they want you to hear ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |