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Topic: safety topic
Posted By: eric lavine
Subject: safety topic
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 10:32am
along with boating comes safety, would it be a good idea to start a safety topic on its own? alot of guys are new to boats and one thing that always is overlooked is safety issues including what you need on the boat, it would just make people more aware of safety issues including operating and repairing

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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 10:34am
Good idea...maybe even cure a walley or 2?!!?
LOL

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Posted By: Johnny
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 1:11pm
Sounds like a good idea, although I'm not sure we need it on our lake...Every driver I see out there has safety as priority one...head turned around watching their tuber the whole time making sure they're safe, and even standing up or sitting on the back of the seat just in case they need to jump in after somebody. Maybe someday one of these boat manufacturers will figure it out and start making boats with the driver's seat facing backwards. Until then we'll all just have to be extra careful.


Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 4:09pm
Johnny, there's always that one..

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Posted By: Aemmer
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 4:19pm
I am curious about these these older tournament boats I see on the lake converted to wakeboard boats by adding 1000 plus lbs of weight. Just doesn't seem safe to me for the passengers or their boats.           

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 5:08pm
Aemmer, it's not. Luckily they don't last long and upgrade to a new v-drive financing it out to the max parked outside their apartment complex.

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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 7:30pm
Ok..tips one thru 4

1. Buy a new mirror to supplement the one on the dash.


http://skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=M1C

2. Throw out the original throttle on your boat without the safety catch.

3. Put a 3-4" riser under the driver seat.

4. Whenever the boat is not in gear the button is out on the throttle.


Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 7:32pm
How about how to handle gas when changing out a tank? A friend ask me to help him a couple of weeks ago. He has a Wildcat that he had removed the gas tank and was ready to replace it. He had drained about 25 gals of gas into a trash can and had it sitting next to the boat with a lid on it. Seemed like a bomb to me. I didn't stay around very long.


Posted By: Aemmer
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 7:45pm
BP,
I like your idea about a driver seat riser. At 6'3" I feel too low in the seat of my 88 2001. I will do an advanced search to figure out the best way you all have come up with to accomplish this task. Sometimes it's the obvious.   

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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: August-22-2007 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by Aemmer Aemmer wrote:

BP,
I like your idea about a driver seat riser. At 6'3" I feel too low in the seat of my 88 2001. I will do an advanced search to figure out the best way you all have come up with to accomplish this task. Sometimes it's the obvious.   


I put 2x4s under mine, when it gets a new floor it will get a 3x3 frame under it.

Tim


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 1:02am
ammer- i dont have 80k to blow on a boat that i use a few months out of the year, so i choose to add weight to acheive a decent wake...without adding wake the wake for boarding is just not there..i have 3 sacs that is approx 1200 lbs...capacity plate says 1200 lbs..so im really not that far over, and im sure that number is very low due to liability issues with cc...hows the weight a safety issue with passengers?..more worried about the other idiots out there


Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 1:59am
In my opinion boater licensing should be mandatory particularly with the PWC's. When I was around 12yrs old my Dad put me and my brothers through a power squadron boaters safety course, really learned a lot and the bonus was I was then able to operate the boat by myself.
Regarding the weighted boat issue and creating huge wakes I would guess many of those doing that do not even realize they are responsible for any damage their wake may cause should it occur. More times then not the riders behind those loaded boats can barely do any decent tricks anyways so what is the point, my feeling is use what you got as most decent riders can do a tantrum without a wake anyways.


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Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 2:18am
Always check the capacity plate and follow it!!!



   

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Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 3:48am
Wood: ya took the words right outa my mouth...after seeing the pics of JEFF KOSTIS' driving skills...he is a lock to be the safety boat driving instructor.

john

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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

More times then not the riders behind those loaded boats can barely do any decent tricks anyways so what is the point, my feeling is use what you got as most decent riders can do a tantrum without a wake anyways.


+1



Posted By: jon4pres
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 2:02pm
Johnny that is so funny and sadly true.

If you know what you are doing. Driving a ski boat with weight in it is not any more dangerous than driving it without weight in it. I can drive with 1500 lbs in the boat and never take a roller over the bow or beat up on another boat.

I love the old man but I have to yell at my dad all the time because he has ADD and gets to caught up in what is going on behind the boat to remember that he is driving a fiberglass spear at 25 mph. I yell and yell at him to pay attention and not go through other peoples lines and watch the rollers from the boat after someone falls but I dont know if he will ever get it.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 2:35pm
What if the orher guy doesnt know what he's doing? Man ive been on boats for 25 years, and the times i can count of being close to death was on boats, it wasnt necessarily me, it was a combination, sometimes alcohol, sometimes poor judgement and alot of the other times were inexperienced boaters causing the problem

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 3:04pm
Every year with the boat registration, states send the little booklets regarding the safety rules and regulations. I do wonder if anyone reads them or they just don't care or maybe they can't even read! Unlike driving a car, anyone after a certain age can just hop in the boat and start driving without any tests of any kind. It is not going to get any better and we will really need to watch out for the other guy!
The other day, I was out and in the "proceed" position putting along in my little Atom when a guy in the "yeild" position cut me off and then gave me the finger! Nice boaters!! This is really what it is coming down to.



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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:





I'm not criticizing you Pete but Good Luck with that Yeild /proceed thing, I'd bet there's only a select few on the water who know's anything about right of ways and how/ when to overtake. How many times do you blow your horn to overtake, yeah right, blow the horn and get flipped off. People won't get it until you have to get a license to operate a boat just like a car.

Best advice I can give is the same as when on the road, "defensive driving" don't assume the other guy is going to do the right thing just because it's in some manual somewhere. You can only control your actions not the other guys so be aware of your surroundings, water conditions, and other boaters at all times and don't expect the worse or you'll never have any fun but be prepared for it.







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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 4:32pm
Hardly anyone on my lake knows how to, or cares to yeild. The biggest boat wins.

Sadly, on the Saturday night of the NE Reunion, on Long Lake about 45 minutes away, a 32' Cigarette type boat with twin 425's ran over a 14' Glaspar at 9:30 at night. The 38 yo guy from MA, and his 19 yo friend from ME got thrown from the boat and swam to shore. Their boat went 150' into the woods. It took the wardens 4 days to find the remains of the guy and lady in the Glaspar.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 5:15pm
Alan, I should have emphasized watching out for the other guy more and the fact that it isn't going to get any better. I know people can't even follow rules on the road so they certainly won't on the water!!

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Posted By: 68lemans
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 7:07pm
In ohio if you were born after 1982 you are required to have a boating license. I got mine this year because I did not want to get a ticket for not having one.....

B


Posted By: The Lake
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 7:35pm
In think in Missouri if you were born after 1988 you are required to have a license, although I have never heard of anyone actually being checked for it.

On the big lakes there are too many big boats, 30' plus, with a lot of horsepower, making a lot of noise, making huge rollers, with their noses a lot in the air, that have no idea of boating safety.   

I'm glad to have a small lake nearby where the Nautique can scoot along in relative safety.

Chuck



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Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

   Always check the capacity plate and follow it!!!



   


Steve , Did you notice they are all wearing life jackets ? That surprized me .

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Posted By: 882001
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 10:04pm


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August-23-2007 at 11:57pm
tell me thats photoshpped!


Posted By: 882001
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 12:52am
i dont think it is. that looks like either a malibu tantrum or a moomba boomerang.i think ether with that many people would look like that. i count 12 people.

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Posted By: tjlake
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 10:03am
Aemmer, you might want to try one of the square throw cushions in your driver's seat. In Ala. we are required to have one when pulling anyone and it seems like a good place to store it, plus it adds just the right height for me..


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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 10:16am
that sqaure cushion always has to be with in reach of the boat operater, the reason i know this is from boaters safety coarses and the Coast Guard pulled me over and refreshed my memory he also let me know my flares were expired

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 11:59am
I hope that boat is just transporting passengers from one party barge to another, no way they are actually out riding like that.





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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 1:05pm
there's no way that one is photoshopped, you can see thier reflections in the water

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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 1:32pm
HW,

I can't seem to dig up the pics but there was a guy on PN "Squam" something or other that had his 2001 weighted like that. Remember that dude, he took a ton of abuse for posting those pics.

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Posted By: jon4pres
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 1:39pm
Well anyone who is running that much weight is asking for trouble.

But. . .

If I am out on the lake I would be a whole lot less worried about the guy in the malibu running into me than some crazy wally wahoo.
Most likely if they are running that much weight they are going to be paying more attention than anyone else on the lake to make sure that they do not sink the boat.

The 50 guys in the white boat is just a dumb idea.

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Posted By: rleinen79
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 8:06pm
Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:


I can't seem to dig up the pics but there was a guy on PN "Squam" something or other that had his 2001 weighted like that. Remember that dude, he took a ton of abuse for posting those pics.


Here's that pic....let me start the abuse over again....what a moron.



Rob

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Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 8:40pm
He's tyin' way too hard...and that chain should be in the glovebox   

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Posted By: The Lake
Date Posted: August-24-2007 at 9:21pm
Gas is $3.50 per, according to the pic; with that much weight I'm guessing he is spending a few bills for a couple of runs.

I'd be afraid it would break in half.

Chuck

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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-05-2007 at 6:45pm
Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Hardly anyone on my lake knows how to, or cares to yeild. The biggest boat wins.

Sadly, on the Saturday night of the NE Reunion, on Long Lake about 45 minutes away, a 32' Cigarette type boat with twin 425's ran over a 14' Glaspar at 9:30 at night. The 38 yo guy from MA, and his 19 yo friend from ME got thrown from the boat and swam to shore. Their boat went 150' into the woods. It took the wardens 4 days to find the remains of the guy and lady in the Glaspar.


10-5-2007, this guy is going to jail.
From MaineToday news story:

Cumberland County District Attorney Stephanie Anderson said LaPointe and his passenger Nicole Randall of Bridgton said they had seen Trott’s 14-foot boat traveling without lights shortly before the crash. LaPointe and Randall, family friends, had been idling in the 32-foot high performance boat at Long Point, a popular gathering spot for boaters, when the smaller boat passed.

Minutes later, LaPointe headed toward the north end of the lake where his
boat was kept, going 45 mph despite the low visibility at 9 p.m., said
Warden Jason Luce, who joined Anderson for a news conference this morning.

Following the crash, 2000 feet from shore at Bear Point, the larger boat
continued onto the shore with such speed that it was more than 160 feet
into the woods before stopping.

The indictment charges LaPointe with two counts of manslaughter in the
deaths of Trott and Groetzinger, four counts of aggravated drunk driving and
one count of reckless conduct with a dangerous weapon. The latter charge
accuses LaPointe of driving a boat too fast, failing to have adequate
visibility, failing to stay clear when overtaking another boat, failing to
yield to another boat and driving the boat while drunk, Anderson said.


Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: October-05-2007 at 7:10pm
people do not assiciate boating with danger, i could think of hundred things that could go wrong and mame or even as the case above kill somebody, its ashame this happened and if this guy gets life its not enough especially for the families who lost these people over stupidity, an accident is an accident, but in situations like this and the guy cowardly running he deserves whatever he gets

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Posted By: 87BFN owner
Date Posted: October-05-2007 at 9:16pm
Well in MI they are say we need boat indorcements now. It has not happened yet but they are trying to get it passed. The only problem I have with this is, the bill is all about income has nothing to do with safety.

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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: October-11-2007 at 1:41pm
Im with Quinner on the requirment of a license. Boating on a busy day takes far more attention that driving a car especially if your pulling skiers. The worst people on the lake are tubers. They pay more attention to throwing the riders off than to the other boats on the lake. Most pwc drivers are idoits that are at their friends place for a weekend and want to go out. They pay no attention to anything but the next wave coming. My little brother about got mashed by one with a 16 year old kid on it. Missed him by 5 feet or less. DRN saw and parked his ass hah. Also I would be scared to put any weight like that in my boat afraid it would hurt the boat. Wake boarders in the 50 60k boats are always in the way and not paying attention on our lake too. I think the lakes would be less crowded too if people had to have licenses. I believe that white boat is a boomerang moomba. It isnt sitting that low if you will look its tilted to the drivers side alot but thats still tomany to be on that boat. Those boats hardly sit out of the water anyways.


Posted By: farmer
Date Posted: October-11-2007 at 11:22pm


Connecticut has a boater licensing program. We have lake patrol on our part of the river who stop people to check safety equipment and to write tickets. Still doesn't stop people from doing stupid things. I think stricter enforcement is the only thing that will help.
                               Farmer


Posted By: Tomski
Date Posted: October-12-2007 at 10:29am
Originally posted by The Lake The Lake wrote:

Gas is $3.50 per, according to the pic; with that much weight I'm guessing he is spending a few bills for a couple of runs.

I'd be afraid it would break in half.

Chuck


I don't think he'll worry about the gas price - the boat is fitted with a clever self filling system. Each time you slow down the tank is topped up from the lake via the breather. It's brilliant, always a full tank and never any fuel cost worries.
Tom

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