Odd find in my shop
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Topic: Odd find in my shop
Posted By: Geno
Subject: Odd find in my shop
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 6:54pm
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I inherited a 100' x 100' shop from my deceased stepfather and have been cleaning it up a little at a time.
This weekend I discovered a correct craft boat that I know was running and in good order three years ago from speaking with his friends. The odd thing is that it has two windshields that look like half cones (I'm calling it the bat boat as of now lol). I haven't seen any with that type of windshield in any of the brochures on this site or anywhere else. Anyone ever seen one like that? Also where on the boat would I find the year, model, etc.? |
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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:01pm
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Oh Boy, we know what you've got and we're all going to want it.
Welcome to the site, can you post some pictures. The wiser ones will post later as to what it is but is there a hull Id number on the transom? ------------- You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails |
Posted By: 65 'cuda
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:11pm
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This is it:
http://correctcraftfan.com/reference/1971_brochure/index.asp?page=03 - Separator ------------- Gary http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=941" rel="nofollow - 1965 Barracuda SS |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:12pm
You mean, like this?  ------------- |
Geno wrote:Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:13pm
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I will take some pics this evening as I'm going to pull the tarps off and blow the dust off of it. I kind of had thought I would put a real windsheild on it but your reply makes me think maybe I shouldn't.
I'll look for a hull plate on the transom and post some more about it tomorrow. It's a very ugly gray color, very old, I'm guessing 16'-18' long, has no damage to the hull although the deck was removed and replaced a few years ago due to watterlogging. It's supposed to be fast and sit high in the water after that. Two of his friends can't agree on what engine it has but they both say it's the original. One says he thinks it's a 302 and the other insists it's a 283. It is a v8, that I know for sure and I'm going to try to crank it tonight if I can get that far on it. It also has the original trailer and it appears to be in very good condition. I had thoughts of giving the trailor and boat some fresh paint (something pleasing to the eye) and floating her as a classic skier. I guess I'll hold off at least until I know what it is and have some minor knowledge of it. |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:19pm
| THAT'S IT!! Thanks so much. Now I have to work out what the hell engine is in it because neither of the options matches what I've heard about this thing. |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:34pm
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Good thing you found this site before hacking into the boat! Take it slow and there are plenty of guys here that can get you back on the water w/o destroying that boat. ------------- |
Posted By: SeattleFordFan
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:51pm
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Thats a Great find Geno, congrads.... ------------- Travs Where there is a will, there is a way, and where there is a way, it usually costs more money. 1980 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:54pm
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CRAP!!!!
You guys should have pleaded ignorant and told him its probably just some old piece of junk. That way I could have talked him out if it just for the sake of helping him clean up the shop. Just kidding Geno. Welcome to the site and congratulations. You have a real beauty on your hands. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 7:59pm
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Thanks everyone for the help - apparently these things are extremely rare. I will keep the history and integrity of this vessel foremost in mind as I do something to make it visually pleasing.
I wonder how much changing the color would affect the value? Now that I know what it is, I'm planning to keep it forever but I really don't want to do much to reduce the value. I guess if the engine isn't original (I'll know what's in it tonight - it's wrapped tightly in a bunch of big truck tarps - my stepdad had a heavy equipment repair shop) then the paint being changed to a different color won't hurt too bad either. |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 8:01pm
Geno- Where are you located? ------------- |
Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 8:15pm
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behind,
You invite him out for a beer, I'll grab the boat. lefty ------------- Play hard, life's not a trial run. '85 BFN '90 BFN White Lake, Michigan |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 8:28pm
I'll give you $100 for it & you don't even have to clean the dust off!  ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 8:36pm
Sounds like youve got a lot of reading to do. The boat wasnt painted from the factory- the outer surface of the hull is gelcoat. Its much harder and more durable than paint, so I wouldnt paint over it unless its a last ditch attempt to make old, damaged gel look better. Im with Pete on this one- keep it original! ------------- |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 8:37pm
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Geno,
congrats on inheriting that ugly old...errr... rare old boat!!!! Nice find!!! As for the power, 302 was a Ford based engine, the 283 is a Chevy. A quick way to tell the dif is by looking at the valve covers.Chevy has 4 bolts in each and the ends are 90 degrees to the sides. Fords have (I think)6 bolts in each and the ends are angled, kinda like a pyramid.. Im betting on the Ford power...not sure of the size tho? If Im counting right, Im about 5th in line to take her off your hands! 
Where you from? And get some pics!!!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 9:00pm
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Steve the distr. is on the wrong end on a GM.but wait if its a V_Drive it is now in the right place .
Let me get this correct, if its a V-Drive and its powered by a GM the distr. is in the front.... If its a FoMoCo and it is V-drive the distr. is in the rear..... boy is that a kick in the butttttt...................boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 9:19pm
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Doc,
I started with the dist. location also, but like you said...the front of the motor is now facing the rear...so where is the dist located now? 
Besides,He wouldnt be THAT lucky...you know...find a rare boat AND have it bowtie powered!!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 9:32pm
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Doc and Steve, I don't think Geno has mentioned if it is a V drive. Although rarer, there were some I/O's. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 10:35pm
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I think we are all willing it to be a V-drive.
It makes the barn find fantasy all that much juicier. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 10:46pm
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It's a V drive so the motor is in backward, it's the original 351 holman and moody 290 hp. It has non stock coil, electric fuel pump, valve covers (really pretty Mustang cast aluminum) and possibly carb (big Holley).
Hull No. SEP 1094 Engine markings: Serial EOHM 4226-2-RWT CPM - 290 - 4 C9HM-ME2 CR 10.5:1 No pics as of now because I'm on dial up at my mother's house - pics later tonight. Someone painted it primer gray at some point although the original OD green gel shows through in a few places. The glass is cracked in several places but only minor - the little vent sticky uppy things on the rear deck are the worst, a few places on the engine cover, and very minor cracking on the rear deck around the engine cover. The hull is in good shape underneath with a few scratches consistant with beaching and one or two other minor scratches. The bumper strip is in exceptionally good condition. The tach has a million tiny cracks in the clear cover as do the windshields. My stepdad extended the trailor tongue by about 6' in an attempt to help the waterlogged launching situation. The mind of a heavy equipment mechanic huh LoL? |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 11:13pm
Central AL |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 11:15pm
ohhhh, its fomoco power... (btw, thats whats in my 64 ) 351HM...thats GOOD!..
Id still probably go ahead and fix the ol girl! lol ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: Poster112
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 11:36pm
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Geno, are you near B'ham, Montgomery, somewhere in between? ------------- I'd rather have a bottle-in-front-of-me than a frontal-lobotomy. http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3182&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1925&yrend=2009" rel="nofollow - 1985 Ski 1984 SW |
Posted By: MarineSRT8
Date Posted: September-05-2007 at 11:41pm
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This is like reading a good book it just keeps getting better!!!....Most of the books I read are usually shiny paged with Road and Track, Car and Driver, or Hot Rod on the cover and they have pictures....we're all eagerly waiting!!! ------------- "Some people go an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. Marines don't have that problem" -Pres. Ronald Reagan-  |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 12:04am
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Wow, good for you, Ive never even seen nor heard of a CC like that, ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 12:15am
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Please be patient!!
My mother says we have the rear bench somewhere wrapped in plastic but we have a bunch of outbuildings and it may take me a while to find it. I'm amazed that the original upholstery is in useable condition at all. It's obviously a '68 because it has no handrails on the side and never had them if you look under the rails there are no holes at all where the side handrails were on the later models. Thanks again for the help guys - and thanks in advance for the future help because this is going to be an ongoing thing for a while I'm sure. I'm just north of B'ham for those who asked - I work in B'ham a couple of blocks from five points south and live very near Springville. 
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Posted By: SeattleFordFan
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 12:35am
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That is a Great find.... I expect to see it at Green Lake next year for the reunion!! ------------- Travs Where there is a will, there is a way, and where there is a way, it usually costs more money. 1980 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: reidp
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 12:37am
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In regards to the year, (and I know it really doesn't matter) I'm not quite certain that the picture and specs shown in the Ref Sect are actually from a '68, or more specifically that I don't think this boat is a '68, at least if the engine is original. There was no 351 yet in '68, and the brochure picture is slightly different from the rest of the photos in the '68 brochure. Look at the little swirling circle detail thing. We have no '69 or '70 brochures available, but I'll bet it's one of those years as '71 definitely changed, brochure style and boat details. If the engine is original, then it's a '70 model as the serial number implies. (Search forums for "Holman Moody chart", and a breakdown can be found.
And 62Woodhead, you couldn't buy a GM small block engine over the counter in any boat back at this time that would hang with the 290 HM. 10.5 points of premium fuel compression. Why do you think all the Donzi's of the era were powered so. Bow to the blue oval you heathen, or you're liable to find a dark blue engine in your SS this weekend. (Sorry for the sidebar ranting) EDIT: Geno, forgot to mention, in case it wasn't already crystal clear, that this boat is the epitome of cool. ------------- ReidP /diaries/details.asp?ID=231&yrstart=1971&yrend=1975 - 1973 Mustang |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 12:50am
Reid, OUCH !! Does this mean you dont like me anymore?
you know I always hafta get my bowtie dig in when I can....The fact is ,Ive never had anything but the blue-oval powered tugs. Im actually kind of looking forward to that cuda and its poly , just for a change!
btw Geno, NICE Find!!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:06am
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There will be lots of talk on the water when you show up with this . Anywhere !!
Reid is right , Epitome Of Cool ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:16am
Thanks so much for the clarification - I readily admit I'm a complete noob as far as CC's go. I'm looking forward to getting her up and running and seaworthy once more. If for no other reason than to show up at the reunions and show her off in my stepdad's memory. Which by the way, keeping such a classy boat (albeit a little less than beautiful) was a big thing for him. He tried time and again to tell me it was a classic and all I saw at the time was a lack of appeal. Boy, am I growing up. |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:22am
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Geno,
You really have a rare find there. Even if you think it is ugly, keep it original. It is worth some cash on this site. If you decide to part with it, I am in Atlanta & can be there before Reid! ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:25am
| Edit: Never mind - stupid question. |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:37am
| Honest opinions - I really want to paint this thing a head turning candy apple or bright lipstick red. Yeah or neah? |
Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:44am
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neah Buff it out . it will look great .
I just noticed that it may have a rope rub rail . Im not sure , but that may not be original . ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:49am
| It does have a black rope rub rail. If it's not factory that may explain why the rub rail looks so good compared to the rest of the boat. |
Posted By: racintj
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:51am
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Neah, take it back original, bring to Orlando next year and watch everyone drool over it. I think even the CC factory guys would be very impressed. ------------- Every day above ground is a Good day. Lakeland, FL |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:52am
Steve, did you get a Barracuda SS? Is it the one from Boston? Sorry for the jack. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: stang72
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:59am
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Geno...certainly a real nice find! Put some time into it and it will be a real bad machine!
The primer can be removed...you might see what the gel looks like under it...perhaps work a small section by removing the primer and buffing the gel. Painting ....if you do....deep purple with some silver and black metal flake accents! Silver interior with purple piping! Or what ever the F--- looks good to you! ------------- stang Face plants are not that funny when it's you face! http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/images/3720/photo1.jpg" rel="nofollow - The Super Air |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 2:12am
| What's the best method of removing the primer? |
Posted By: RainDog
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 2:23am
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Stang - you sure like those wild colors.
I guess I should have asked this first - what color is your Classic ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1868&sort=&pagenum=1 - 62 Classic http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5242&sort=&pagenum=1 - 2002 Super Air |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 7:49am
Reid and Geno, It must be a very early 351 or the engine has been swapped from a 302 because the exhaust risers are forward and then the pipes go under the engine and out the transom low. Later years, this was changed to risers to the stern and then straight out the transom high. I'm not sure of the year this change was made. My guess at this point is the engine was swapped. Geno, I would like to encourage you to re gelcoat rather than paint. We can talk later about it but there are also some good threads here. Geno, please go back into your post with the pictures and edit it with the "enter" key between the pictures. This will post them top to bottom instead of side to side which makes all the thread real wide and hard to read!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 10:21am
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heck with the engine and everything else, you know what im looking for and dont see it and its an important part that nobody mentions which saddens me lol eric ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 10:54am
Eric, Did B/W build a V drive? I can't remember for sure what was in them. I thought it was a Velvet with a short drive shaft to the V gearbox. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:01am
| It's a velvet drive - I thought that was the same as a V drive? |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:01am
What are you looking for? |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:04am
Geno, Erik is our resident trans guy! It's his bussiness and is always helpful with any trans problems. He's just giving everyone a hard time because no one had mentioned the trans yet!!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:05am
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Geno, I recently listed my 71 Separator in the Diaries section check out the pics. Mike has the holman moody 351 with a crusader v drive set up.
You do have a rare boat ,,, enjoy !! Mike |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:24am
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I'll have to get some good pics of the tranny and the drive setup - sorry Eric.
Nice boat Mike. The placement of the exhaust as someone mentioned earlier is high on yours and low on mine leading me to think mine's earlier than a 71. |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:39am
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now your talking, they did make early 1:1 v-drives but some pics would definitly help to get it identified, i was starting to feel like the last kid picked for touch football.
Geno, they are called Borg Warner Velvet Drives, the velvet means smooth shifting, they offer inlines and v-drives and velvet drive has no reference to the v-drive configuration ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:45am
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If it helps, the engine is facing the front of the vessel and is bolted to a small tranny that says "velvet drive". A shaft comes out of that tranny that's maybe a foot long and goes into a drive box of some sort which apparently redirects power out the rear of the boat. It has clean markings on it as well but I couldn't read them last night while in the engine box - I'm 40 and the eyesight is failing a bit.
I may have to get the wife into the engine box to make good pics of the markings on the tranny and drive so I can read them. |
Posted By: 62 wood
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:48am
Geno, The V-drive is the way the engine and tranny are mounted in the boat. most of our inboards have the motor mounted in the middle of the boat with trans behind it. The prop shaft runs thru the floor in line with the engine crankshaft.. Your V drive has the engine "turned around" in the same location as an I/O, in the very back. The trans is facing the front of the boat, coupled to a gear box, which in turn drives the prop shaft...in effect a "V" drive. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1117&sort=&pagenum=6" rel="nofollow - 64 American Skier 62 Classic.. 73 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 11:49am
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it may be a Walters behind the BW, I found myself trying to focus my eyes last nite and finally had to let the kid read it, take some pics of the v-drive if you get a chance and we'll see if we cant figure out what it is ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: tjlake
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:40pm
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Geno,
I've got Reid and skicat beat, I live just south of B'ham and could beat them both there! Seriously, sounds like you got a great project there. Several of us have SN down on Lay and would welcome you to join us whenever you can. Also, if you need a second opinion, there are a couple pretty good SN mechanics in B'ham who would probably love to help you out if you get stuck..Welcome, Joe ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1882&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1985&yrend=1985 - 85 ski nautique |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:50pm
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I emailed correct craft asking for help with identifying the year (although I'm pretty sure it's a 70) and some advice on restoration. How long does it normally take them to respond?
Also will paint thinner/stripper harm the gel that's still good? The bottom half of the hull seems to be in good shape and I think I can bring the original olive color back up to speed. The gel on the top half is shot and will have to be redone or painted after some fiberglass repair. |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:54pm
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A friend of mines father has this same boat in absolute mint condition. We ran it several times this summer. It would top out at about 63mph. Very slow getting out of the water, but once it got wound up, it was gone. His has the H/M motor, throttle pedal, 1:1 velvet drive...if I remember correctly. I have access to the boat if you need any pics for reference. I think it is a 70 model and his serial number was a bit lower than yours. I emailed CC about the boat, but, they really didnt give me any grand info about it. Ber careful with it...it doesnt steer well at slow speeds (or at moderate speeds!), and water will dump over the back if you slow down too quick. I have a few pics on my phone, but I cant download them, I am not that tech savy...email me your phone number and I can text them to you. Cool boat!
ernest |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 2:27pm
| Thanks everyone - Joe I may take you up on it sometime, emccallum I don't have picture compatible phone but I'll get with you if I need some photos, sounds like he has the exact same boat. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 3:45pm
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Ernest, I think the 63MPH is on the high side. Even a Donzi 16 with the 351 won't do 63. I'm sure Reid can comment. I had a close friend with the 351 Separator and we also had a Donzi 16 on the lakes in the early 70's. The Donzi would outrun the Separator. I wish we had GPS's back then to really get a good idea of MPH!
Geno, Don't get me wrong as you have found yourself a fast boat! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 3:55pm
Well, I am going by the speedo in the boat. i cant vouch for its accuracy. The owner said the motor had been balanced and blueprinted, and idled like it had a pretty hot cam. Whatever the actual speed it felt pretty fast, a lot faster than a SN! Better than the speed was the sound. A real headturner. |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 7:58pm
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What a great story this is turning out to be. You didnt just find a great boat or even a great correct craft, you found a Seperator!!! Too cool.
To give you an idea of what you can end up with, look at this thread of a Torino (the more humble version of the Seperator that you have)that was recently redone on this site. You have the bonus feature of the bat boat windshield. Have fun with it. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4428&KW=torino - scotts torino ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 8:00pm
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GENO,
My Hull ID # is on the metal plate by the shifter SEP 1117 is stamped into the metal. Your v drive is under the floor it should be a CRUSADER Brand. Correct craft is sometimes slow to respond to some requests. John Bolden or Jeff Warner is who I usually talk with at CC Good luck with it !! Mike |
Posted By: searider
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 9:27pm
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 12:34am
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Cleaned some of the gunk off the trailer today it just needs paint, a few bulbs and the extension removed. Took the boat to my body man and he removed some of the paint to expose the gel and see if it would come back with a good buffing - it wouldn't. The gel's shot so it get's a new color scheme once we fix the cracked glass. Will start that this weekend.
The engine turned over but I didn't have enough battery to start her - it still had some juice after three years in storage. The starter solenoid may be toast or the battery just may not have had enough juice to work it - will charge the battery this weekend and find out. The secondary butterflies in the carb are corroded shut and the electric choke is non-functioning which leads me to think the carb is not a marine application. Eric - some pics of the driveline for you. 
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Posted By: p/allen
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 1:54am
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Eric what are the hoses on the v drive ? Does that run up to a second oil cooler ? ------------- Pat http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w146/72ccfan/100_5977-1.jpg - My 72 Skier Rock River Dixon,ILL. |
Posted By: ultrahots
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 4:07am
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This boat is just too cool !! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6960&sort=&pagenum=2&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1980 Show Nautique |
Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 5:13am
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Before you start it up, you may want to clean the gas tank and fuel lines out, definitely if you end up putting a new carb on it!
what a great find...some guys have all the luck...welcome aboard, and keep the pics of that baby coming!  ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 8:01am
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Geno, Are you thinking of painting or re gelcoat?
Pat, Yes the V drive is water cooled! Lots of HP through a small gearbox. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 10:33am
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It may be a walters and as petey said the case is casted with channels for wter to run through it and cool it, i get alot of later newer walters that are cracked due to improper winterization. I would say it is a walters because they are known for running the water through the case, I could be wrong though, Paragon is the only other company that runs water in the case but im pretty sure thats not a Paragon, see if there is a tag on the side if you dont mind
Eric ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 11:01am
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There is a tag on the top but it's very plain and just had a number on it - I didn't write it down. I'll look on the side for a tag as well.
I'm going to spend at least one day on it this weekend. 8122pbrainard - thinking of painting as of now - may not be able to afford gel. |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 11:14am
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Geno, That is the same v drive gearbox that is in my separator it is a Crusader and yes it is water cooled and yes you need to winterize it. There is not much info on these gear boxes out there.
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Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 11:43am
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Man o Man......Geno your one lucky man!! Truly a barn find story to be envyous of!!
Nice boat and welcome to the site.Go back original.....not that i have any room to tell anyone about going back original......if you dont go back original..Pete will come after you!!! 
Good luck with her. ------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 11:52am
Geno, The guys have gotten to know the mean side of me!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 12:08pm
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have you ever heard of donate a boat program which is tax deductible and it helps the less fortunate kids suffering from mal nutrician, drud abused parents, my shop is a drop off point and i will make sure the boat gets into the right hands, bring the title ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 2:01pm
Actually you don't need to drop it off, just call me with the location, have the title signed and I will come pick it up and drop it at one of the proposed locations that Eric is talking about. ------------- |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 2:20pm
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LoL
You guys won't want it after I paint her red and white and put Bamagirl on the transom. |
Posted By: Mojo
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 2:32pm
Where's Pete?????  ------------- 05' SV211 TE 73' Martinique had:96' SNOB had:76' Nautique had 77 Tique |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 2:39pm
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Moj, I'm right here and looking in the ref. section for the Pete approved colors!! Too bad we are missing the 69 and 70 years. The 68 as shown is really a Spoiler in the green color that I think Geno has. Then we skip to 71 and white was the only color but then in 72 concord blue, lynn green, salem orange and redcoat were offered.
Nautique frk, what is the color and year of yours? I know we found the blue for a alternate color to the yellow for the phantomkaw but that was a Torino!! We really need to find someone with the 69 and 70 catalogs to fill in the blanks!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 2:46pm
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Red hull and white top with red vents. Maybe a red engine cover as well?
In deference to Pete the trailer will stay the original white. What about a really big U of A decal on the top front?
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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 2:50pm
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Geno,
Not sure how much you've been around boats, so don't be offended with this little piece of advice if you are already aware. If you do manage to get it started this weekend, don't run the motor without running water through it. Easiest way is to pull the intake hose off the thru-hull water intake fitting, stick a garden hose in it, and retighten the clamp. Second, don't "test out" the transmission by putting it in gear. The shaft should not turn in the shaft log or strut without being in the water, or you will fry the bearings. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 2:56pm
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Thanks 75 Tique. I've mostly been around OB and IO.
My stepdad made it easy to hose cool it though - if you look at the pics of the v drive you'll see a tee, valve and extra hose that's red in color (and doesn't belong) running vertically from the port v drive cooling hose. That is actually an industrial grade water hose with a cap on it - you unscrew the cap and screw a water hose directly onto it. Not stock but not a bad idea at all, no pulling clamps and reclamping needed.
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Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 3:15pm
| The 68 spoiler is the same color as my tub but she has a few differences: the vents are chrome on the 68 and my vents are glass, the 68 has two vents on the for edge of the engine hatch and mine has none. |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 3:27pm
LMAO!!! ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 3:29pm
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Boy Geno,
All of that U of A talk is really depreciating the value of that used to be cool boat! ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 3:36pm
I would never do that!! LMAO!! My wife's nickname is bamagirl and it has nothing to do with UA and everything to do with the fact that her family's from AL and she was an Air Force brat raised all over the world. Her favorite color on anything is bright red (I can't drive her cars because I get the tickets she can get out of). I like white boats so red below the rub rail and white above would be a nice compromise and visually pleasing as well. I wish we could find a pic of the redcoat color scheme from 72. |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 3:47pm
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Bright red isn't Bama. That's for us Georgia boys!
I've got a boat just her color! 
One of these days it is going to have white interior with red piping (and a big UGA emblem on the deck).  ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 3:51pm
Geno, This would be the red color but a slightly deeper red as the colors in the catalogs tend to be washed out. The deck and hull would have both been red. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: BuffaloBFN
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 3:53pm
Some of named Greg in Georgia like bright yellow?!!? LOL ------------- http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2331&sort=&pagenum=12&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - 1988 BFN-sold "It's a Livin' Thing...What a Terrible Thing to Lose" ELO |
Posted By: Geno
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 5:52pm
This is her new color scheme - I can live with it just fine. |
Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 6:01pm
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Geno,
why don't you add some stripes......Hi pete how are you old buddy?
Just kidding! Definatly Original is the way to go with this thing! ------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 6:10pm
skicat...Your "UGA" boat will get a beatdown from this boat!!
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Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 6:10pm
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Hey Paul,
Do as I say, not as I do?
------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: skicat
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 6:12pm
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Boy MM,
That is a waste of good fiberglass!!!!!!  ------------- Greg http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2427&yrstart=1981&yrend=1985" rel="nofollow - 86 BFN |
Posted By: racintj
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 6:12pm
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Oh my gosh, now it would really depreciate if it had anything close to UGA or a dawg on it. Now Orange and Blue, that would be a gorgeous boat. Great post MM, that's what I'm talkin' about. Welcome to the 'Swamp' boys.
Geno, congrats and great find on the boat. You'll be in good hands with this forum. ------------- Every day above ground is a Good day. Lakeland, FL |
Posted By: 67nautique312
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 6:55pm
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Skicat,
Nice red boat you have......Any stripes yet?????? ------------- 1963 Classic (handed down to my daughter) 67 Riviera 68 barracuda 1971 Ski Nautique Promo 86 Silver Nautique 1995 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 8:14pm
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Pete.
My separator is white hull with red stripe on the side and red racing stripes on the top deck. It is pictured in the Diaries when I got it. Red interior. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 10:15pm
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Mike, Were did you get your separator? Do you know what part of the country it came from? It sure looks great! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-08-2007 at 1:16am
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MM; Think I'd rather you post pics of fat chicks than that awful gator boat.
Paul; He might do red with white stripes but he'd haveta go some to beat that crew you have on your boat. john ------------- "Loud pipes save lives" AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
Posted By: MaddMarxx
Date Posted: September-08-2007 at 1:27am
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I would do that boat all gloss black with red interior! ------------- |
Posted By: 69 Mustang
Date Posted: September-08-2007 at 1:55am
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That is one cool boat, and will look great no matter what you do (within reason). But IMHO red boats are a b*tch to maintain with regard to the finish. Used to own one, hated trying to bring the color back 3 - 4 times each season. ------------- For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. "Where the **** are we?" Amelia Earhart. July 2, 1937 |
Posted By: nautique frk
Date Posted: September-09-2007 at 2:22pm
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Pete, My Separator came from the Upstate South Carolina area, I believe I am second or third owner.
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