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Topic: Ruptured Ear Drum... Helmets?
Posted By: joed
Subject: Ruptured Ear Drum... Helmets?
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 12:51pm
Well... I've been working on the boom to hone my Barefooting skills this past week. Yesterday I took a weird fall and smacked the side of my head HARD on the water. Sure enough... I ruptured my eardrum. Hearing in my right ear is off, and it's quite painful.

My question is... do any of you guys wear helmets   with earguards? What are the pro's and con's to wearing a helmet while barefooting?

Any thoughts?

Joe

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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:07pm
joe
sorry to hear that you are joining us walking wounded. hope you heal soon.
I know of a couple of guys who foot with helmets, mainly because of concussion. the barefoot race we did last month was called the "buckethead barefoot classic", put on by brian mcmillan who wears a brain bucket while footing because of scrambling his mellon. I'll email you his email address and he can tell you what he wears. it's important to have the right can on top, unless you enjoy neck problems.
get well soon
lefty

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Posted By: joed
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:12pm
Thanks Steve,

How's your recovery coming?

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it's important to have the right can on top, unless you enjoy neck problems.
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That's what I was concerned about wearing a helmet. It would seem that at 36 mph if you fell and the water caught the helmet in a weird way it could do more harm than good. Out of the 20 or so falls I've taken while learning... this was the first one that caused any problems, so maybe I'm being overly cautious.

Get well soon buddy!

Joe

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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by joed joed wrote:

It would seem that at 36 mph if you fell and the water caught the helmet in a weird way it could do more harm than good.

Helmets are common in barefoot jumping, so I would think they are pretty safe.

M3Fan is the local eardrum expert- hes ruptured them more times than anyone I know. I know a few others that did the same this year (including Keith). Ive never had any eardrum problems, but I know Joel recommends http://www.proplugs.com/ - Doc's ProPlugs . My ears bother me when skiing in cold water- so hopefully they'll help with that too.

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Posted By: joed
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 1:51pm
Thanks Tim,

ProPlugs look like the ticket. Hopefully I can find some locally.

Joe

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Joe D.
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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 2:13pm
I wear a gath helmet on the sky ski.

Tim

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Posted By: Tim D
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 2:18pm
With ear plugs etc., and not being able to hear affects my sense of how fast I'm going. Somewhat like skiing into the wind, it seems like you're going faster than you really are.

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Posted By: bkhallpass
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 2:19pm
I believe that neoprene surfing hood works better than a helmet for eardrum protection. Of course the helmet also offers some measure of brain protection as well. BKH

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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 3:45pm
Originally posted by bkhallpass bkhallpass wrote:

I believe that neoprene surfing hood works better than a helmet for eardrum protection. Of course the helmet also offers some measure of brain protection as well. BKH


Brian,

Tried a neoprene hood once for thermal protection slaloming, the problem I experienced was any water that gets in or behind the neoprene near the ear just pounds and compresses in your eardrum from the wind at speed, peeled it back to finish my set and never used it again.


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Posted By: Barracuda
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 4:43pm
Go with the plugs- they are cheap insurance. Hardest thing about them is remembering to put them in before your run...

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September-06-2007 at 7:13pm
helmets are for women


Posted By: OBXSki
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 1:44am
Notwithstanding Ryan's opinion, I wear a Voz helmet with ear covers installed. It's made for the kiteboarding industry -- popular here on the Outer Banks. I can tell a dif dif dif difference when I take a hard fall. With the helmet, the stars and tweety birds are fewer and last a shorter period of time. Good luck with the eardrum, joed I did it once on a dive and it was painful.

OBXski
'76SN
'94SN


Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 1:47am
Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women



When you can invert you can talk

ps-

i think the bow light is out on your boat!!

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Posted By: joed
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 3:54am
Thanks for all the responses. I ordered a "fitting set" of Docs Pro Plugs to start. Will investigate Helmet choices. I'm 43... I'm not worried about being called a sissy... just want to stay healthy and active for many years to come.

Joe

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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 11:42am
Broken ear drums too many times. 2 or 3 on right, 3 or 4 on left, to the point of poor hearing in left. Once slalom, mostly footing, especially toe-holds, which I quit doing because when you fall you get torqued to the side. Broken ear drums hurt like a son-of-a gun, especially an hour or so after you do it.

I always steered clear of ear plugs. I was afraid of them getting rammed down your ear canal and doing more damage. I have used those big waxy ones you form fit, they might be okay but I wouldn't use those plastic ones or the ones with the little vanes on them.

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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 11:50am
Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women


Comments like this one, and many other you have made lead me to believe you've bashed your head enough times that you should probably be wearing a helmet 24/7.

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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 12:06pm
And skiing behind a short boat.

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'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women


Comments like this one, and many other you have made lead me to believe you've bashed your head enough times that you should probably be wearing a helmet 24/7.


He talks-the-talk but has no clue what the walk is. Behindprop is right in the mark. Go inverted or even get the balls to attempt it first and then see if a helmet is for women.




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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

I always steered clear of ear plugs. I was afraid of them getting rammed down your ear canal and doing more damage. I have used those big waxy ones you form fit, they might be okay but I wouldn't use those plastic ones or the ones with the little vanes on them.

I read somewhere (probably the Proplugs website) that regular earplugs wont prevent ruptured eardrums. They keep the water out, but a solid hit will compress the air between the plug and the eardrum and still cause it to rupture. The Proplugs are vented to prevent this.

Ill bring my fit kit next time we ski, Larry. I need a handle, but I want to start doing toe-holds soon.

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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 1:47pm
Seriously, if you guys are looking for a helmet, check out the Gath helmets. A bit spendy but they do not bucket and fit great.

Tim

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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-07-2007 at 2:08pm
Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

I need a handle, but I want to start doing toe-holds soon.


I'll dig around, I have one someplace, old, reroped several times and rehandled once (short handle) but still has the strap so still usable. If we hook up again, I'll bring it.

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Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-08-2007 at 4:56pm
BTH, id rather have an expensive helmet than no hearing

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September-08-2007 at 5:25pm
helmets are for women....ruptured my eardrum last fall and would deal with the pain again before i wore a helmet....

tim- i think the bulbs burned out or something..

backdoor- tried em so wanna feel my balls see if they are big enough?...you must have softball size balls huh!


Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: September-09-2007 at 1:31am
ryan... have you seen backfoot or as you say "backdoor"... i would go ahead & make sure you dont run across him anywhere if you're gonna talk sh*t to the guy.... could probably snap you like a twig.....

If a helmet keeps you on the water & going for years longer, then I say do it, at this point in my life i wouldn't wear one, but thats basically because I've never had any problems while footing or boarding, not because of someone calling me a woman...

Nate

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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: September-09-2007 at 9:38am
I think the only helmets Ryan likes are "Purple Helmet's"!! He ride's em all day and long!!



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September-09-2007 at 10:47am
quinner- dont tell anyone......
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nate- yes you correct, more i think about it a 3rd grder probably could too..



Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: September-10-2007 at 5:49pm
Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women....ruptured my eardrum last fall and would deal with the pain again before i wore a helmet....

tim- i think the bulbs burned out or something..

backdoor- tried em so wanna feel my balls see if they are big enough?...you must have softball size balls huh!


Oh God, another one of the "play through the pain" a**holes! Hey little man, when you're ready to play with the big dogs, strap on a girly helmet and come jumping with me. Regular or barefoot, doesn't matter.

If you can't provide some sort of constructive responses to someone who's looking for legitimate help, get off the site a**wipe.



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Eddie


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September-10-2007 at 8:41pm
ok- reread the question..."do any of you guys wear a helmet with ear flaps etc"..
response..."i think they are for women", so NO..
ok d-bag


Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-10-2007 at 11:47pm
Originally posted by backfoot100 backfoot100 wrote:

Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women....ruptured my eardrum last fall and would deal with the pain again before i wore a helmet....

tim- i think the bulbs burned out or something..

backdoor- tried em so wanna feel my balls see if they are big enough?...you must have softball size balls huh!


Oh God, another one of the "play through the pain" a**holes! Hey little man, when you're ready to play with the big dogs, strap on a girly helmet and come jumping with me. Regular or barefoot, doesn't matter.

If you can't provide some sort of constructive responses to someone who's looking for legitimate help, get off the site a**wipe.



Backfoot-

Where do I sign up to barefoot jump?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 12:59am
where do i sign up for aerobics eddie $


Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 1:11am
Ryan:


Eddie:


Do the math

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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: nates78ski
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 1:48am
haha... yeah that was pretty much the point i was trying to make, thanks for finding the pic to really get that point across... like i said "like a twig" haha

Nate

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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 1:55am
Larry,

That is the best post of the day!!!


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Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 10:23am
When is MM going to chime in with some fricken sweet pics?
Lefty

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'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 2:23pm
actually it looks like the chick could beat that dudes ass, I know i would put up a sweat

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Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

actually it looks like the chick could beat that dudes ass, I know i would put up a sweat


Yeah, I'm guessing Eddie has brought her up to take care of herself just fine.

Not too bad a skier either.



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“So, how was your weekend?”
“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”


Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 4:16pm
now i know where she got the cannons from

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"the things you own will start to own you"


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 9:19pm
lol where in the hell did you guys find my senior year pic from?.......


Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: September-11-2007 at 10:55pm
hows uncle Rico?

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"the things you own will start to own you"


Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: September-12-2007 at 1:45pm
Back in '74 I used to be able to jump a quarter mile.

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Play hard, life's not a trial run.
'85 BFN
'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: September-12-2007 at 1:50pm
Gang, I thought I'd be in the clear with a helmet with earflaps but even with that level of protection, I still ruptured my eardrum coming out the front of a slalom ski this spring (video is available on my site). Now I'm back to just the pro-plugs with no helmet. I've also ruptured an eardrum with the pro-plugs as well, but it was because I fell so hard that one flew out BEFORE impact. That was from footing on really rough water though- not a typical or wise scenario.

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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-12-2007 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Gang, I thought I'd be in the clear with a helmet with earflaps but even with that level of protection, I still ruptured my eardrum coming out the front of a slalom ski this spring (video is available on my site). Now I'm back to just the pro-plugs with no helmet. I've also ruptured an eardrum with the pro-plugs as well, but it was because I fell so hard that one flew out BEFORE impact. That was from footing on really rough water though- not a typical or wise scenario.


M3-

Helmets are like boats, there are tons of different kinds. What kind was yours?

This is a gath, what I use.



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Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: September-12-2007 at 2:58pm
I had a Pro-Tec Ace Wake with earflaps.

http://www.bartswatersports.com/catalog.asp?P=4693 - Ace Wake Helmet

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Posted By: behindpropeller
Date Posted: September-12-2007 at 3:58pm


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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-12-2007 at 7:08pm
Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Ryan:


Eddie:


Do the math


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September-12-2007 at 11:06pm
hollywood- you are so original..hopefully he doesnt jump through this screen and get me!..oops ijust sh*t myself.



Posted By: jbear
Date Posted: September-13-2007 at 12:52am
Nice work Larry.

You must have a lot of time on your hands.

BTW; I got to ski with Eddie's daughter this past week. All I can say is....she is even nicer in person. You guys should see her foot. HW...you are missing the boat on this little lady.

Seriously...Eddie might look like a WWF guy but he is one of the nicest, easy going guys I have ever had the pleasure to meet. Darn good teacher and driver too. He has got this 56 year old guy goin' again.

john

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